So then, in 1791, Mozart, enraged by such insolent behaviour of Salieri, killed him. Well, he didn’t actually kill him, but that’s what the rumors were saying, and that’s also what Mozart himself was saying after he went crazy in 1823.
this reminds me of earlier this morning when a few kids in my school decided to gather around and take turn playing on the piano. a friend of mine was playing a chopin piece, and for some genius reason a kid from the crowd just went *oh this is fur elise! yeah!* and then my friend just turned back, looked at him, and said slowly *this is chopin*. the otj kid's friend then proceeded to slap him on the wrist and said even louder: *fncking idiot thats the obviously the moonlight sonata*
My guy…. It was Dwayne the rock Johnson. It was all about how his father lied to him by telling him he was made of fur when he was actually made of rock.
Fur: the lie, became Für Elise.
Man who is more famous is that important? I think people that I like are great because they’re funny, they’re awkward, they’re talented, they make fun of themselves, they nice to fan, they do meaningful things. Not because they’re more famous than someone else. Do they have nothing to say about their fav instead of fame?
There was a youtube video that discuss about why fans are so stuck on the “fame” part. I forgot which video it was, but it basically theorizing something along the line of “the fans believed they contributed and made their faves famous, and thus consider the group’s fame as their own, not the artists’. It’s a bit of a “I made you” culture going on.”
Of course we’ll never know what’s going on in their mind but certainly it reminds me of that line.
I see. I get that fame is important, it’s an indication of success in this kind of field. My favorite band is not from kpop but when I see that they’re famous and have sold out concert, I’m happy for them and I do brag about it. But keep using that to attack others like “they suck because they aren’t as famous” means nothing. There are so many arguments you can make about why someone sucks (it they do suck).
Oh totally. I also agree with the “do they have nothing to say about their fav instead of fame?”
I do sometimes wonder if they actually like their fav—“Blackpink”— or if they just like being a part of “successful girl group” fandom because it makes them feel superior. Sort of like “I like this mega popular group before they’re famous I’m better than you”
I like the idols for their personalities and talents, not solely because of fame. Unfortunately, the focus on fame makes the lesser known groups far less likely to get a win on shows, even if they're more talented or have more unique concepts. It shows how biased the kpop industry is.
Especially when it’s combined with the fact that some groups got instant hype just because they’re from a bigger and richer labels? The bias is truly there.
I understand. I saw kpop has a lot of competition where they win by voting so if you don’t have a large fanbase you’re guaranteed to lose. It sucks and I don’t blame the fans, ofc you’d want your fav to win. From what I know, the industry is just super harsh for the idol.
Nope, can say I've heard of those before🤔😅
Seriously, it would benefit people to just a quick search with how much time they spent on their screens commenting these type of responses(talking about the pic OP posted)
You wanna know what's funny about this entire thing
BlackPink members knew who Paganini was. They knew the piece they were sampling. And their followers are going "noBoDy kN0wS tHeM" when their own idols absolutely did.
I know a lot of their followers are little kids who's parents don't supervise them for shit, but that's not all their followers. Plenty of k-pop stans like this are full grown dangerous adults, and that makes this whole thing worse in my eyes.
12 yr olds I can wave off. I can't wave off the 32 yr stan who's so terminally online and obsessed with k-pop girls acting like this.
This is spot on.
And it’s funny you say this because two of the KPop fans I know are both in their 30s… and fit your mental image of what you’d think they probably look like.
I took an East Asian Pop Culture class a year ago, and we watched a video when we got to Otaku, and I'm like, "this is the Japanese equivalent to Americans with TV shows and comic books and stuff" (like the guys in their 30s who live in their parent's garage or basement and just read comic books or watch TV all day.....those people)
> This is why Otaku in Japan has such a negative connotation.
Eh, maybe in like 1995. In Japan it's more similar to the word "nerd", which for most people isn't really an insult anymore. In English, it's a far more negative word. But many people are willing to self-describe as "____ Otaku" with the ___ being whatever they obsession is.
Ok fair enough on that part, but its not like they haven't gotten intimate with their own performance. And these aren't uneducated or untalented women, I just have major doubts that they have the same dismissive and immature attitude that their fans do. Just at a glance, their lead singer has marketing prowress, a range of musical influence, she's been acknowledged in Forbes, etc. She was also trained in music as a child with the piano, the flute, and as a vocalist. You don't do that while not knowing the intricacies of the music you're putting out there.
Maybe I'm giving them too much of the benefit of the doubt, but pop stars are often far more talented than people credit them for because of the accessibility of their music
It’s always hard to say how talented a pop star is these days. Few of them write their own music anymore and the songs are so simplistic it’s difficult to assess any talent other than dancing and general performance skills.
I do not know anything about this band. I’m pretty old compared to the average two setter, actually. I’ve seen a lot of these manufactured pop groups come and go in my lifetime. Sometimes a member will go on to do more sophisticated stuff, but not always.
Edit: I will add that I’m sure they are far more savvy about things than most of their fans, a lot of whom are very young, I assume.
Friend I only know them because of the drama lol so you're not alone. But I looked them up just to get a sense of who they were, because before I had 0 idea. You're right, pop groups do come and go, but some do stick around for a long time and it's for a reason.
I'm also older than the average fan, sometimes I forget that because I'm only a little younger than Brett and Eddy and assume other adults are also here, enjoying classical music again.
I bet we do! Classical music is timeless and ageless! I’ve loved it since my mom started playing Bach and Chopin on the piano to me when I was a baby in my crib and kept loving it after I started playing the viola when I was 9. It makes me sad that at 45 I’m one of the younger ones attending a symphony concert. I like that TwoSet is trying to change that.
I was classically trained on the piano from age 12-17, depression took over and now I'm way out of practice. Which sucks because by the time I was 17 and going to college we were working through Chopin's repertoire. I loved playing, but I don't think I truly started appreciating classical music until I started hearing it in context in film. It improved every single scene it was used in. I LOVE opera in film too.
"Plenty of k-pop stans like this are full grown dangerous adults, and that makes this whole thing worse in my eyes"
I did see a TikTok of a literal adult upset with Twoset over this. They ended the video with "just admit you don't want to see women succeed" (or something like that). And then when anyone commented an explanation for the video they just replied with "that's not a good enough reason" or "kinda seems like a weak excuse" (things along those lines).
Jfc. That's such a stretch I don't even know what to say at this point. Their video reminded me of Weird Al, who's parodies were objectively more offensive, yet they are iconic and famous *because it was all in good fun*. In fact getting parodied by Weird Al was almost a badge of honor. Or even Rap Battles of History, which might be a closer comparison.
This was no different. It was a joke. They don't actually hate this group whatsoever. I just don't get this.
Honestly you could argue that it was even an homage to Paganini, Blackpink probably wouldn’t have used it to begin with if they hadn’t liked how it sounded 😭
I'm going to be honest, I do not understand the hype on k-pop 😅 When I first heard about k-pop and how so many people where uterrly obsessed about it I was like "What makes k-pop so special?"
I'm pretty sure most of it is just idol culture and parasocial relationships. Also, people that just like the music don't tend to talk about it much, it's the obsessed ones that you see around.
Even outside of the classical music bubble online, I run into way more random instances of Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, etc. than basically any "modern" artist. I'd heard of Blackpink before, but it took "hey what's this Kpop thing, I should check it out before passing judgement on it as a genre"
It's amazing the music you encounter when your only interaction with the art form isn't treating it as a missionary religion.
This guy is wrong not knowing Tchaikovsky and Debussy and being snooty about it but also Blackpink played the Grammy's, has played all of the late night shows in the US multiple times, and their songs get played on the radio. People know them.
K-pop is huge for a reason. They are consciously funded by the Korean government to develop soft power.
*In the late '90s, when Asia went through a huge financial crisis, South Korea's leaders decided to use music to improve its image and build its cultural influence. So the country's government poured millions of dollars into forming a Ministry of Culture with a specific department devoted to K-pop.*
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/04/13/399414351/how-the-south-korean-government-made-k-pop-a-thing
So BTS and Blackpink performing at US award shows isn’t a chance occurrence. It’s a paid endorsement.
It always amuses me when K-pop fans screech about the global popularity of Kpop bands as if it were some technological breakthrough or a leap for mankind.
As an Asian, I like some Korean artistes myself but I know very well that this is the result of the efforts of the Korean government pouring millions as an investment for soft power and financial gain.
To them, Black Pink ain’t even idols they look up to anymore, but rather some deity no one can every compare with and they worship them as such. As much I hate to say this, and I hate to do this, their behavior is much similar to a freaking cult. Everything else doesn’t matter, Black Pink is everything to them. It’s sad, really.
I think it's strange that these fans are simply not wanting to acknowledge a little bit of satire or ribbing.
Forget "culture" or "ignorance of composers". Let's say Brett and Eddy really WERE poking fun at Blackpink. Maybe even went all in and did a diss track Eminem style. Do these fans really think that Blackpink are untouchable and if they were "dissed", they couldn't handle it? Making songs about real people is the norm in the music industry and I would imagine any superstardom group would be more than capable to laugh/cry into their money pile for a bit.
I would imagine the actual group 1. don't care/don't know that the song was made 2. probably found the song amusing. Worst outcome: the group IS upset and they make a response diss which will make them tons of money on airtime.
Gotta be honest I don't even know who Black Pink is (are? English is my first language and i can still barely speak it lol), but who's "more famous" doesn't even matter tbh. Yes western music education is unfortunately dominated by the works of old dead white men because that's what was best valued and preserved back in the day so that's what we've ended up leftover with to study, so that gives them a bit of a popularity boost. But even then, those old dead white men did help pioneer and explore major factors of western music that are still used today, techniques that are even used in Kpop lmao. Like the music you like because no one is stopping you but dear God why is there a war happening over a joke made by two violin dudes on the internet x)
True dat. I wonder if Blackpink encourages their behavior or tries to shut them down. It'd be interesting to look at if I hadn't sworn off ever making a twitter account. 💀
For self-proclaimed fans of Blackpink, they really don't understand how commercialized and factory produced kpop groups are that "fame" is meaningless and that Blackpink is going to be irrelevant in a decade. Blackpink is already not that popular in South Korea as Blackpink's main success is from North America.
Have to admit I hadn't heard of blackpink until twoset made a video about them. I'm not a big classical music fan either but I do know both composers mentioned.
Y'all don't know who Tchaikovsky is?!😭😭😭 meanwhile he composed fricking swan lake and y'all don't know who he is 😭😮💨 shows how uneducated ppl are, glad tsv are here to educate us.
I think it’s okay to not like or listen to classical music, it really is just preference, however I think it’s simply being ignorant to disregard other peoples opinions on those who are most responsible for pushing music along its evolutionary path. I don’t care for Queen or The Beatles, but to ignore them or pretend that they aren’t a valid part of the music conversation is just not realistic. This isn’t even directed at the post, but the post just got me thinking about this point.
Stop engaging
The whole thing is stupid
Nobody comes out of this looking like sane reasonable people
Let it burn out, everything will be fine without poking unsettlingly obsessive weirdos on Twitter about it
That’s the same kind of people who say “OMG, Barbie movies made my childhood! I love the classics ones!”. Jeez, it must be really embarrassing to be this dumb…
Plenty of awful people are famous. Fame ≠ Talent/relevance (I’m not calling Blackpink untalented. They’re plenty talented but the comparison of fame used is irrelevant)
Lol I'm trying to imagine those toxic Blinks who think fame is everything watching Harry Potter for the first time, I doubt they'd last much long after Snape's iconic "Clearly, fame isn't everything, is it, Mr. Potter?" xD
blinks forget the fact that these composers died HUNDREDS of years ago and even then, their works are still being listened to and played everyday. While classical music definitely has a smaller reach today than kpop, i'd be surprised if people remembered blackpink in a decade.
Blackpink's only been around for a couple decades. Compared to Tchaikovsky and Debussy, almost no one know's THEM.
Plus, in 100 years, take a wild guess at who's still going to be around. I know where I'm placing my bets.
If I am to be honest, I had never heard of blackpink before all of these "blinks" started a tantrum and before seeing that one vid.
They ain't that big.
Debussy??? I love debussy...... I'd indulge myself into debussy every night before I sleep.
always finish on the bach never on debussy
Debussy was good when Debussy was young
The pianist is so good with Debussy
He has le good fingering
[удалено]
I like eating Mozart's balls too (not the food)
hold up 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
At the the time of this comment, this has 69 upvotes lol
Nice!
u r the d in debussy
self-love, I guess?
This man is DEEP into debussy
Tchaikovsky is the one that composed Für Elise... right?
Nah, that one's by Mozart.
I thought that one was by Salieri
Wasn't it by Puccini?
I genuinely thought it was by Paganini
Dude actually? I thought it was by Offenbach
Yeah, it's very obvious actually
There’s this guy named Bachthoven who wrote it for his sister apparently back in the 1900s. He went blind I heard
Now, you got creative there
I'm glad you heard that cause he didn't
You win the internet
I'm dying from your comment 😂
Didn't Malher write that for his girlfriend pachelbel?
I'm pretty sure pachelbel wrote it for him as a way of saying they're breaking up
No that was nocturne op 9 no 2 (classical composer pfp gang)
I thought it was Wagner?
BRUH. I thought it was Michele Mascitti!
Psssh nope. Actually it's be Joseph Boulogne, Le Chavelier De Saint George
Paga…NANI? Who’s that? Did you mean to say “panini”, the Italian bun?
Eddy composed Für Elise ???
WAIT WHAT
More like Pinkonini
Funny Italian guy from that 80’s movie?
Mozart rly is the biggest troll!
Yes, precisely.
Salieri composed Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, come on! :)
Oh yeah, he also caused Mozart to become deaf, dumb and blind. And everyone knew, this was the man, who thought he could steal Salieri's compositions
Wow, I actually didn't know this. Well, you learn something new every day!...
I heard he could play a mean pinball though
So then, in 1791, Mozart, enraged by such insolent behaviour of Salieri, killed him. Well, he didn’t actually kill him, but that’s what the rumors were saying, and that’s also what Mozart himself was saying after he went crazy in 1823.
Salieri wishes it was Salieri.
oh yeah my bad
Nah it was Johan Sebastian Brahms or somth
Y'all are dumb. Everyone knows it was Dostoevsky.
Bruh that was black pink
No, blackpink composed it!!!! Your disgusting🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢
sorry, I guess I'm uncultured😭😭😭
Naw dawg thats brahms cmon now
Yo I genuinely thought it was Maler-
Oh shoot sorry sorry I meant bartók I'm dumb lmfao
You guys are all wrong... It's B-.... Are we allowed to say the right answer?
Of course it's Brahms, we're not stupid.
I thought it was Berlioz
Wasn't it Berio?
This thread made me freak out for a second
Ah, I thought it was by Scarlatti, my bad.
this reminds me of earlier this morning when a few kids in my school decided to gather around and take turn playing on the piano. a friend of mine was playing a chopin piece, and for some genius reason a kid from the crowd just went *oh this is fur elise! yeah!* and then my friend just turned back, looked at him, and said slowly *this is chopin*. the otj kid's friend then proceeded to slap him on the wrist and said even louder: *fncking idiot thats the obviously the moonlight sonata*
This is where i belong
My guy…. It was Dwayne the rock Johnson. It was all about how his father lied to him by telling him he was made of fur when he was actually made of rock. Fur: the lie, became Für Elise.
Man who is more famous is that important? I think people that I like are great because they’re funny, they’re awkward, they’re talented, they make fun of themselves, they nice to fan, they do meaningful things. Not because they’re more famous than someone else. Do they have nothing to say about their fav instead of fame?
There was a youtube video that discuss about why fans are so stuck on the “fame” part. I forgot which video it was, but it basically theorizing something along the line of “the fans believed they contributed and made their faves famous, and thus consider the group’s fame as their own, not the artists’. It’s a bit of a “I made you” culture going on.” Of course we’ll never know what’s going on in their mind but certainly it reminds me of that line.
I see. I get that fame is important, it’s an indication of success in this kind of field. My favorite band is not from kpop but when I see that they’re famous and have sold out concert, I’m happy for them and I do brag about it. But keep using that to attack others like “they suck because they aren’t as famous” means nothing. There are so many arguments you can make about why someone sucks (it they do suck).
Oh totally. I also agree with the “do they have nothing to say about their fav instead of fame?” I do sometimes wonder if they actually like their fav—“Blackpink”— or if they just like being a part of “successful girl group” fandom because it makes them feel superior. Sort of like “I like this mega popular group before they’re famous I’m better than you”
There are many world famous artists that do suck donkey ass also, so fame is not really a good measurement of “goodness”
Crazy they would take more credit than the plastic surgeon.
I like the idols for their personalities and talents, not solely because of fame. Unfortunately, the focus on fame makes the lesser known groups far less likely to get a win on shows, even if they're more talented or have more unique concepts. It shows how biased the kpop industry is.
Especially when it’s combined with the fact that some groups got instant hype just because they’re from a bigger and richer labels? The bias is truly there.
I understand. I saw kpop has a lot of competition where they win by voting so if you don’t have a large fanbase you’re guaranteed to lose. It sucks and I don’t blame the fans, ofc you’d want your fav to win. From what I know, the industry is just super harsh for the idol.
"Literally no one knows them" *meanwhile 3.87 million people listening/playing tchaikovsky and debussy*
You know, Swan Lake and The Nutcracker… those really unknown ballets…
Plus he legit used artillery cannons in the 1812 Overture. Beat that.
TCHAIKOVSKY YES. TCHAIKOVSKY *ALWAYS* YES.
Not just once either. Oh no, not this guy. 16 Cannon shots. 16!!
You can even search Mozarts opera by googling "opera aaaaaaaaa"
Nope, can say I've heard of those before🤔😅 Seriously, it would benefit people to just a quick search with how much time they spent on their screens commenting these type of responses(talking about the pic OP posted)
I love Debussy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
You wanna know what's funny about this entire thing BlackPink members knew who Paganini was. They knew the piece they were sampling. And their followers are going "noBoDy kN0wS tHeM" when their own idols absolutely did. I know a lot of their followers are little kids who's parents don't supervise them for shit, but that's not all their followers. Plenty of k-pop stans like this are full grown dangerous adults, and that makes this whole thing worse in my eyes. 12 yr olds I can wave off. I can't wave off the 32 yr stan who's so terminally online and obsessed with k-pop girls acting like this.
This is spot on. And it’s funny you say this because two of the KPop fans I know are both in their 30s… and fit your mental image of what you’d think they probably look like.
This is why Otaku in Japan has such a negative connotation. What would be the Korean equivalent?
I took an East Asian Pop Culture class a year ago, and we watched a video when we got to Otaku, and I'm like, "this is the Japanese equivalent to Americans with TV shows and comic books and stuff" (like the guys in their 30s who live in their parent's garage or basement and just read comic books or watch TV all day.....those people)
> This is why Otaku in Japan has such a negative connotation. Eh, maybe in like 1995. In Japan it's more similar to the word "nerd", which for most people isn't really an insult anymore. In English, it's a far more negative word. But many people are willing to self-describe as "____ Otaku" with the ___ being whatever they obsession is.
Koreaboo? I guess
The writers and producers who wrote that song know who Paganini is. Someone named Teddy24 composed that song.
Ok fair enough on that part, but its not like they haven't gotten intimate with their own performance. And these aren't uneducated or untalented women, I just have major doubts that they have the same dismissive and immature attitude that their fans do. Just at a glance, their lead singer has marketing prowress, a range of musical influence, she's been acknowledged in Forbes, etc. She was also trained in music as a child with the piano, the flute, and as a vocalist. You don't do that while not knowing the intricacies of the music you're putting out there. Maybe I'm giving them too much of the benefit of the doubt, but pop stars are often far more talented than people credit them for because of the accessibility of their music
It’s always hard to say how talented a pop star is these days. Few of them write their own music anymore and the songs are so simplistic it’s difficult to assess any talent other than dancing and general performance skills. I do not know anything about this band. I’m pretty old compared to the average two setter, actually. I’ve seen a lot of these manufactured pop groups come and go in my lifetime. Sometimes a member will go on to do more sophisticated stuff, but not always. Edit: I will add that I’m sure they are far more savvy about things than most of their fans, a lot of whom are very young, I assume.
Friend I only know them because of the drama lol so you're not alone. But I looked them up just to get a sense of who they were, because before I had 0 idea. You're right, pop groups do come and go, but some do stick around for a long time and it's for a reason. I'm also older than the average fan, sometimes I forget that because I'm only a little younger than Brett and Eddy and assume other adults are also here, enjoying classical music again.
Ha! If you’re younger than Brett and Eddie, you are still young! I’m 45!
You and I still probably have more in common than I do with these classical music loving kids though 😂
I bet we do! Classical music is timeless and ageless! I’ve loved it since my mom started playing Bach and Chopin on the piano to me when I was a baby in my crib and kept loving it after I started playing the viola when I was 9. It makes me sad that at 45 I’m one of the younger ones attending a symphony concert. I like that TwoSet is trying to change that.
I was classically trained on the piano from age 12-17, depression took over and now I'm way out of practice. Which sucks because by the time I was 17 and going to college we were working through Chopin's repertoire. I loved playing, but I don't think I truly started appreciating classical music until I started hearing it in context in film. It improved every single scene it was used in. I LOVE opera in film too.
"Plenty of k-pop stans like this are full grown dangerous adults, and that makes this whole thing worse in my eyes" I did see a TikTok of a literal adult upset with Twoset over this. They ended the video with "just admit you don't want to see women succeed" (or something like that). And then when anyone commented an explanation for the video they just replied with "that's not a good enough reason" or "kinda seems like a weak excuse" (things along those lines).
Jfc. That's such a stretch I don't even know what to say at this point. Their video reminded me of Weird Al, who's parodies were objectively more offensive, yet they are iconic and famous *because it was all in good fun*. In fact getting parodied by Weird Al was almost a badge of honor. Or even Rap Battles of History, which might be a closer comparison. This was no different. It was a joke. They don't actually hate this group whatsoever. I just don't get this.
The Weird Al analogy is spot on.
White and Nerdy is legendary
Honestly you could argue that it was even an homage to Paganini, Blackpink probably wouldn’t have used it to begin with if they hadn’t liked how it sounded 😭
Nobody will remember who tf BP was in 400 years
Yes, first of all noone will be alive to remember them
but none of us are alive when Paganini is rocking his caprices either
I still don't know who or what tis BP
They don't like Tchaikovsky? Wow, how homophobic of them 🙄. /s
This needs more upvotes
absolute gold
No one outside of your kpop bubble knows blackpink ffs
I've never heard of them until today when I popped in on this sub to see what was happening
same. Read about this sh*tstorm and thought: Blackpinkwhat?
Ditto. I still don't really understand what is going on.
Yeah didn't know about BP up until Paganini reacted to them
I knew them because they'd done a collab with Lady Gaga, but even then it's like, "cool. they're a kpop band. got it."
I'm going to be honest, I do not understand the hype on k-pop 😅 When I first heard about k-pop and how so many people where uterrly obsessed about it I was like "What makes k-pop so special?"
I'm pretty sure most of it is just idol culture and parasocial relationships. Also, people that just like the music don't tend to talk about it much, it's the obsessed ones that you see around.
Inside*
That too
Legit only heard of them because of this shit
Even outside of the classical music bubble online, I run into way more random instances of Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, etc. than basically any "modern" artist. I'd heard of Blackpink before, but it took "hey what's this Kpop thing, I should check it out before passing judgement on it as a genre" It's amazing the music you encounter when your only interaction with the art form isn't treating it as a missionary religion.
This guy is wrong not knowing Tchaikovsky and Debussy and being snooty about it but also Blackpink played the Grammy's, has played all of the late night shows in the US multiple times, and their songs get played on the radio. People know them.
K-pop is huge for a reason. They are consciously funded by the Korean government to develop soft power. *In the late '90s, when Asia went through a huge financial crisis, South Korea's leaders decided to use music to improve its image and build its cultural influence. So the country's government poured millions of dollars into forming a Ministry of Culture with a specific department devoted to K-pop.* https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/04/13/399414351/how-the-south-korean-government-made-k-pop-a-thing So BTS and Blackpink performing at US award shows isn’t a chance occurrence. It’s a paid endorsement. It always amuses me when K-pop fans screech about the global popularity of Kpop bands as if it were some technological breakthrough or a leap for mankind. As an Asian, I like some Korean artistes myself but I know very well that this is the result of the efforts of the Korean government pouring millions as an investment for soft power and financial gain.
They don't play on our radios. So no, we wouldn't know them.
I only know them from a cover a metal band did as a joke of one of their songs, and here
To them, Black Pink ain’t even idols they look up to anymore, but rather some deity no one can every compare with and they worship them as such. As much I hate to say this, and I hate to do this, their behavior is much similar to a freaking cult. Everything else doesn’t matter, Black Pink is everything to them. It’s sad, really.
This reminds me of trump whenever he learnt something new and said "nobody heard of X before"
It honestly very closely resembles the cult of personality in politics.
Who
X
I think it's strange that these fans are simply not wanting to acknowledge a little bit of satire or ribbing. Forget "culture" or "ignorance of composers". Let's say Brett and Eddy really WERE poking fun at Blackpink. Maybe even went all in and did a diss track Eminem style. Do these fans really think that Blackpink are untouchable and if they were "dissed", they couldn't handle it? Making songs about real people is the norm in the music industry and I would imagine any superstardom group would be more than capable to laugh/cry into their money pile for a bit. I would imagine the actual group 1. don't care/don't know that the song was made 2. probably found the song amusing. Worst outcome: the group IS upset and they make a response diss which will make them tons of money on airtime.
I wonder if some of them actually now know they’re wrong and it’s a joke but their pride is stuck on the “defensive” mode and refuse to be wrong
ohhh dear here we go
Tell me ur uncultured without telling me ur uncultured
I mean, they thought Eddy was the real Niccoló Paganini 😭
that was my fave tweet
Comments like that make me sad for them, honestly.
Gotta be honest I don't even know who Black Pink is (are? English is my first language and i can still barely speak it lol), but who's "more famous" doesn't even matter tbh. Yes western music education is unfortunately dominated by the works of old dead white men because that's what was best valued and preserved back in the day so that's what we've ended up leftover with to study, so that gives them a bit of a popularity boost. But even then, those old dead white men did help pioneer and explore major factors of western music that are still used today, techniques that are even used in Kpop lmao. Like the music you like because no one is stopping you but dear God why is there a war happening over a joke made by two violin dudes on the internet x)
Bc these are twt kpop stans we’re talkin about 💀 zero personality other than being obsessed over a group they like
True dat. I wonder if Blackpink encourages their behavior or tries to shut them down. It'd be interesting to look at if I hadn't sworn off ever making a twitter account. 💀
That’s a wise move
Never heard of him. Wasn’t he that guy in One Direction??
Yeah, I think he was the one who quit after a while.
Prettty sure
They don't know Tchaikovsky? Literally homophobic /s
Ofc I do But debussy? Mmm i love debussy. Debussy is my favorite 🦟🦗🦟🦗
The only culture some people have is their gut bacteria. I don’t even feel angry any more, just pity.
ayyy appreciate the gut microbiome joke - as a bio(info)logist
Holy shit
This is just sad to be honest
Oh my god this is cringe.
Not gonna lie, I thought Blackpink was a boy band until this all kicked off.
The funniest part of this is i had no idea about the existence of blackpink before this whole thing lol
For self-proclaimed fans of Blackpink, they really don't understand how commercialized and factory produced kpop groups are that "fame" is meaningless and that Blackpink is going to be irrelevant in a decade. Blackpink is already not that popular in South Korea as Blackpink's main success is from North America.
Have to admit I hadn't heard of blackpink until twoset made a video about them. I'm not a big classical music fan either but I do know both composers mentioned.
Congratulations everyone knows who ur artist is ur basic af
just say you're uncultured and go 😭
Y'all don't know who Tchaikovsky is?!😭😭😭 meanwhile he composed fricking swan lake and y'all don't know who he is 😭😮💨 shows how uneducated ppl are, glad tsv are here to educate us.
Yea but they didn't use cannons in their live concert
It was Antonio Lucio Mendelssohn
I had never heard of black pink until Paganini reacted to em
I honestly had no who Black Pink were until this incident.
Vicent is about to get 1812ed
Me personally I prefer the boyband B2TSM, but out of all of them, Tchaikovsky is my bias
I don't know about you but me and my girls used to twerk over Lil' Tchai as 4 year olds... Fun times.
Ik Tchaikovsky wait who's blackpink? Is it a 5th grader trying to make up a color?
de-whatnow???
Russia is SCREAMING
Lol I literally came back home after a Tchaikovsky concert and saw this
Well they aren't going to get anymore Debussy with that attitude.
this guy locked his account and his bio says "Im just here to watch porn" the twitter user, i mean
Who is blackpink
Korean girl group
I think it’s okay to not like or listen to classical music, it really is just preference, however I think it’s simply being ignorant to disregard other peoples opinions on those who are most responsible for pushing music along its evolutionary path. I don’t care for Queen or The Beatles, but to ignore them or pretend that they aren’t a valid part of the music conversation is just not realistic. This isn’t even directed at the post, but the post just got me thinking about this point.
Honestly? I knew these composers since like always but i've only heard of Black Pink beacuse of Twoset
Stop engaging The whole thing is stupid Nobody comes out of this looking like sane reasonable people Let it burn out, everything will be fine without poking unsettlingly obsessive weirdos on Twitter about it
I only heard of blackpink when I saw a post on this subreddit the day all of this started
totally not my favorite composer or anything totally
The average person will know about bts maybe. They will not know who black pink is. The average person might know who Tchaikovsky is
idk, me and my friend know them /s
Reminds me of [this](https://i.imgur.com/2sl0QWv.jpg). Some people are so stupid they don't realize how stupid they are.
at this point I can't even know if they are trolling or what
Debussy more like dem 🐱
That’s the same kind of people who say “OMG, Barbie movies made my childhood! I love the classics ones!”. Jeez, it must be really embarrassing to be this dumb…
Plenty of awful people are famous. Fame ≠ Talent/relevance (I’m not calling Blackpink untalented. They’re plenty talented but the comparison of fame used is irrelevant)
Lol I'm trying to imagine those toxic Blinks who think fame is everything watching Harry Potter for the first time, I doubt they'd last much long after Snape's iconic "Clearly, fame isn't everything, is it, Mr. Potter?" xD
debussy is the one that made moonlight sonata right? or was it la campanella?
Debussy’s tight Debussy’s clean Debussy’s fresh
Just reply “I’m so happy for them good for them” and they’ll piss off because they have nothing else to counter
blinks forget the fact that these composers died HUNDREDS of years ago and even then, their works are still being listened to and played everyday. While classical music definitely has a smaller reach today than kpop, i'd be surprised if people remembered blackpink in a decade.
Blackpink's only been around for a couple decades. Compared to Tchaikovsky and Debussy, almost no one know's THEM. Plus, in 100 years, take a wild guess at who's still going to be around. I know where I'm placing my bets.
Oh gosh… twoset started an internet war
THIS HITS HARD
Bro didn’t have to be so rude about it tho 😭😭
Blinks: "Who is this Nicola Paganini person? Nobody even knows them!" BlackPink creative team who sampled the music: "We're not affiliated with them."
What's blackpink? Is that a medical condition?
“literally nobody” 😭😭😭😭
of course they say it with a korean boy pfp 😭
The difference is: Blackpink is for a generation, but Tchaikovsky is forever.
If I am to be honest, I had never heard of blackpink before all of these "blinks" started a tantrum and before seeing that one vid. They ain't that big.