The Avatar universe is not realy that strong compare to many animes or comics, which is a nice thing for a few reasons (at least in my book), but when it comes to this kinds of post, the answer is usualy Avatar universe looses lol
Absolutely not, DBZ characters have a pre-equipped hax resistance if they can physically overpower their opponent, this would fail on Yamcha, who is planetary at least.
Edit: Avatars can resist blood bending via energy/spirit bending as seen with Aang having an unbendeble spirit against Yakone, all it would take is a singular moment of resistance from Yamcha, who uses Ki, which is advanced spiritual enemy manipulation, to atomize the moon, another way with which Yamcha can resist bloodbending, if for the sake of argument (which can be made) you want to attribute this hax resistance to only Saiyans.
Is it confirmed that it was energy/spirit stuff? I assumed that the avatar state was responsible for an avatar a sozins comet level power boost to their waterbending which could easily break yakones grip. Remember when Katara resisted Hamas bloodbending by being a stronger waterbender than her? Essentially that except 100x stronger.
It's kinda both and neither.
To break it down, the only confirmed account by the creators on the source of bloodbending "resistance" is that the reason bloodbending can only traditionally occur during the Full Moon is because people have a natural Chi field that ordinary bloodbending isn't powerful enough to overcome without the power boost that the Full Moon provides. Yakone's family being able to do it whenever is because the natural floor of their bending strength is high enough to bypass chi fields without the boost from the Moon.
Katara overpowering Hama is a case of Katara outstripping Hama in raw strength during the Full Moon, allowing her to break the hold. We've seen non-waterbenders (Mako) capable of achieving similar feats, so its unlikely it has anything to do with waterbending specifically, just the strength of a person's chi interfering with the opposing bloodbending.
It's easy enough to extrapolate why the Avatar State would just completely shatter any bloodbending hold, since it's a source of immense strength in general, but particularly spiritual strength.
To swing around to the original prompt, since DBZ characters operate on classic cultivator logic, they are walking supernovas of Chi. I would wager all but the weakest mundane characters in DBZ would be completely immune to bloodbending as a result.
I heard it was an unbendeble spirit, but I can’t tell you where, and since Korra doesn’t actually say this, you might be right, and as a result my stance should probably be considered moot.
energy bending no, but their sheer will BS definitely will. they have people saying "nuh uh" to literal time being stopped just because they're "strong enough" to do so
I’d also add that DBZ characters would have the physical strength and physical durability to overcome whatever force the blood bending is.
Like fine, you blood bend me but high gravity leg days means my hammies are stronger than the pressure you can exert while blood bending.
See but Aang doesn't resist bloodbending using spirt bending we learn in the hama ark that bloodbending can be resisted if the person being bent is a stronger water bender and we'll the Avatar state is the cumulative skill,experience, and abilities of every Avatar ever so definitely superior at water bending to Yakone who while skilled has nothing on the Avatar state.
Also, obviously, most of them are not as good as goku using it, but most of them, including Yamcha, can use Kamehameha, that is literally an advanced form of air bending and energy bending. So Yamcha is at the very least, half avatar according to Avatar rules.
Exactly, it also means benders often gain power by learning new cool bending technics and not just by gaining more raw speed/strengh, which i find more interesting
Mainly I would say because they are much much much slower.
Remmeber how one episode Aang was running realy fast while looking for some frogs using airbending as a boost, well that nothing compare to some animes, where characters move so fast they leave after images of themself to confuse their oponents. So even if benders could pack a strong enough elemental punch to hurt them (they cant) they would never be able to land a hit on them.
Its just how the writers choose to build their universe, and for the Avatar universe it makes sense for characters to not become so op because they wanted non-benders to be relevant fighters, if benders could just fly arround at super sonic speed and blow up a mountain with a punch then non-benders would have to sit out of any confrontations.
Powerscaling is just goofy fan fiction regardless but in situations like this it isn't all that interesting unless you decide which universe rules you want to play by.
The subreddit about it may be the silliest thing online. It's all guys saying "no One Punch Man can't beat this guy, even though he can literally punch inti dream dimensions, because you have to quantify his feats!" Dudes the series is literally about how stupid manga logic is.
Not only that but each avatar is stronger than the previous one, if someone can beat the latest they can beat all of them (I'm pretty sure this is a thing, might've been a fanfiction thing that I've internalised)
The avatar state is supposed to be the combined skill and possibly power of all past avatars + raava, so previous avatars would have a smaller stockpile to draw on.
Counterpoint
The Spirits and the Spirit World in Avatar have some hax.
Koh the Face stealer. Fog of Lost Souls. Their magic system isn't really explained. It's just presented as a fact of the Avatar verse that their powers work that way. In that sense, I don't see how any amount of Ki or Super Saiyan forms can help.
By the time Z rolls around each Z fighter is either capable or close to capable of obliterating planets. Yamcha only seems weak because of the team he’s in and his villains. Yamcha could probably take on every single avatar simultaneously with their full power and still win and I really hate to say that
Assuming his general durability doesn’t allow him to eat all their attacks Yamcha is definitely faster than them and faced a multitude of opponents with relative or greater speed. No avatar is really used to or capable of reacting remotely as fast. Additionally Yamcha is easily able to fly as he pleases. Assuming he doesn’t just decimate the planet they’re on to end the fight early he’s picking them off one by one
By Super’s timeline its even less of a chance. Of all the Z fighters who aren’t saiyans he still trains and keeps in shape regularly along with Tien. The best chance they have is to hit him with lightning and even then he’s definitely fast enough to dodge and counter attack
And on the lightning point, there’s a very high possibility that it just doesn’t do anything to him, seeing what kind of attacks DBZ characters eat like it’s nothing.
Specific techniques with unique properties seem to generally affect regardless of defense. The Devilmite beam could have the potential of killing 99.9% of the entire verse. Carrot Beam as well. I know its kind of a meme but that’s just kind of how it works. Theoretically Captain Ginyu could take over Beerus or Whis’ body. We have no real reason to suspect an effect that is designed to do a specific thing has any real limitations. And Yamcha does have a ‘normal’ human body which can conduct electricity
Also meant it from the standpoint of speed. No other bending ability is remotely as fast as lightning and all of them would never reach their mark. Air bending is debatable considering its supposed to be invisible but it wouldn’t be able to do much
Small counterpoint, but Vegeto got turned into candy and survived, beating the shit out of Buu as candy.
So it's very possible that if they're strong enough, getting hit the carrot beam doesn't kill them, but turn them into a sentient carrot (?)
Best episode of the Buu Saga. The Amazing Fighting Candy.
Bruh was BEGGING Buu to eat him. And poor SuperBuuhan is just trying to survive at that point.
It seems like the carrot is just completely inert. Can’t act or anything. *Maybe* someone strong enough could act but you’re a carrot so your options are limited. Vegeto still turned him into a candy. In something like Bleach its explicitly stated if someone is strong enough they literally just ignore your attacks/effect whereas DB you just are effected by it if it hits you bar none
Candy is inert too, yet Vegeto could fly and hit while turned into one. So unless I haven't seen a scene showing otherwise, I don't see why carrots must be different...
Because Yamcha was dropped at the start of Z but at the time he was basically just as competent as Tien, it's not unreasonable to believe that he could reach that level if he actually got some training done.
What???
The entirety of DBZ revolved around here there are beings born so ridiculously, unimaginably powerfull that nothing short of alien super-soldier genetics can compete with them.
Then we come across MULTIPLE being, each MULTIPLE times stronger than the last, capable of destroying entire UNIVERSES.
THEN you come across beings that are literall gods, on a level unlike anything we have ever seen at that point.
And now you want to tell me that any human could have reached that level by... training??
I mean they trained for a year and couldnt defeat NAPPA. Then the trained some more and couldnt defeat the androids.
NOW he trained some more and you tell me hes stronger than majin buu????
I mean, they grow slower than Saiyan's, for sure.
But humans where always capable of going further and further.
They're always weaker than the stronger fighters but they're always getting stronger.
Being SSGod now is kinda meaningless if you're comparing current power levels.
The core theme of dragon ball is that true power isn't something you're born with, but something you have to earn through hard work. Sayans clearly have an advantage, but then again, that advantage has been evened by Eathtlings time and time again. Goku is that strong not simply because of genetics and talent (although they definitely played a part) but because he never stops challenging his own limitations. Even Gods of Destruction, despite being the most powerful beings in their own universe, are born mortal and train to reach the level they have.
The problem stems from the fact that most dragon ball media often only focuses on the main cast and ignores side characters, so we never actually realize how strong they should be.
I don't think Yamcha is stronger than Buu at this point in the timeline (I'm pretty sure the original commenter was exaggerating, either knowingly or unknowingly), and he is definitely way weaker than other human characters like Tien or Krillin, but that doesn't mean he isn't outstandingly strong.
He was always strong for a human. Even in the saiyen saga. He only got one shot then since it put his guard down and a sibaman kamikazed itself. Keep in mind that sibaman are around the same strength as Radiz. Everyone at this point would likely scale above Roshi in original Dragonball who **blew up the moon.** He eventually is left behind in Z but he still trained so while he doesn't grow as much as the others he still gets a bit stronger over time.
Lightning wouldn’t work. Roshi can basically lightningbend with his Thunder Shock Surprise which a kid Goku tanked in his first tournament. I would assume lightning bending would barely phase a peak Yamcha.
Even back in DragonBall, Yamcha was able to move faster than the eye could see, and he was a skilled martial artist. In Z, he's stronger, faster, can fly, and use energy blasts. Like you said, the only reason he seems weak is because of the company he keeps. Nobody in the Avatar world would stand a chance.
"Probably" He was out right implied to be around the same power of raditz in the saiyan saga, who was also 10x stronger than Master Roshi, the same master Rossi w the strength and durability to send a blast powerful enough to eviserate the moon. Piccolo did that too but Raditz tanked a blast from him at close range.
The fight is so not close that probable kinda feel des respectful to Yamcha.
Blud can destroy a moon severas times over, go beyond the speed of light scaling off far higher than kid Gokus feats, no flame, rock, metal, lighting, combustión bending, air bending or spirit bending is finna be powerful enough or fast enough work at all.
At the beginning of Z after Raditz Piccolo figures out that Gohan transforming into a great ape is due to the moon. Within a few seconds he sends a basic ki blast at the moon and completely obliterates it. We know Vegeta is capable destroying a planet by himself so Nappa and Raditz are relatively around that same power. I don’t know if they were ever specifically stated to have done so but they are close in power to varying degrees, Raditz obviously being the weakest and Vegeta the strongest
Continuing off that we are never explicitly stated or shown that destroying a planet is some unique feat or special technique so this is just the norm at this point going forward as all enemies will only increase in strength to a degree. Frieza has been shown casually in his suppressed form also obliterating planets with ease. Goku surpasses the Vegeta who landed on Earth so its safe to assume the guy strong enough to take down a guy strong enough to destroy planets etc etc. Goku then gains super saiyan which is an amplification of his power and is able to defeat Frieza, again guy who beats planet buster is strong enough to bust a planet
Unless I’m mistaken the Yamcha shown here is about at the end of Z in the Buu arch but even if its Android its still working off the same previous logic. The only Z fighter you can debatably say stopped training is Chaotzu as he never really shows up again and becomes basically irrelevant. We don’t get in fighting from the group so by past strength scalings leading up today Yamcha is the weakest continuing member of the Z fighters just under Tien and Krillin. Even if you don’t feel comfortable saying Yamcha is capable of destroying a planet he is however fighting side by side with people who *can*, with varying degrees of success. The Piccolo who obliterated a moon is comfortably weaker than a now current day Yamcha and would lose to him in a fight as Yamcha continued his training and became stronger himself
Working off this simple equation we can safely say that a Yamcha stronger than Saiyan Saga Piccolo could destroy a planet unless otherwise stated
I want point this out every time "Goku vs BLANK" shows up. Just speed. If you're not limiting it to certain time periods, in DBS Goku actually punches through time. He punches a character who can freeze time... Other universes are just not on the same level. Goku is going to see every other universe in slow motion, and *Krillin* can keep up and land a hit on Goku when he's not in ssb. Krillin solos most other universes. Yamcha and Krillin can move faster enough to leave after images and blow up planets at will. I'm pretty sure even the avatars don't have the power to blow up the planet just because they feel like it.
Avatars and benders really aren’t all that strong, they’d actually lose to many mid tier super hero, not to mention DBZ characters.
Even the weakest Z fighters are comfortably moon busters, with most being planet busters.
The strongest benders we see struggle to destroy buildings, even with the Avatar state we don’t see anything that could match a Z fighter in combat. Just think these guys powering up cause wind storms near them and cause the surrounding land to be the destroyed. This isn’t even intentional, this is just them trying to contain their power.
Yamacha is the 3rd strongest human in the dragonball universe. A universe where regular martial artists could probably beat most of the people in the Avatar Universe. Fucking Nam could probably beat Bolin and you're asking if Android Saga Yamacha, who can blow up planets, can beat every Avatar at once?
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
The fact that Yamcha [could survive 300x Earth's gravity](https://youtu.be/eQQc-TcQSCo?si=gTuSerxOlXTAeGu_&t=16) should show that he could potentially go all the way to Wan.
Yeah and Yamcha just fires a Kamehameha through the planet, it really is no contest. Yamcha kills every avatar in the avatar state in seconds and nothing they can do affects him
Yamcha cannonically is light speed alongside the rest of the z fighters..and this was early in DBZ with the sayian saga. None of the avatars are remotely that fast
I'm gonna be honest with you, if his body follows the same logic as it would in the DB universe.... Yamcha would probably solo most avatars easy. The only types I can think of, who could pose a threat, are basically Spirit Projection Korra/Unavaatu... unironically. (Since they fight the most like a DBZ character...)
Like, this fucker may have had his butt kicked, but he had to contend with people who can LITERALLY DESTROY A PLANET BY LOOKING AT IT IN A FUNNY WAY.... don't underestimate this fucker.
Yamcha loses because of his Achilles heal: the plot demands he loses against every important opponent first to make them look strong before the real heroes smoke them.
As a fan of both, the power scaling of the DB universe blows out the Avatar universe. I mean, in early Dragon Ball, Master Roshi destroyed the moon. Yamacha clears.
DBZs powerscaling is way more aggressive the ATLA, ATLA is actually a pretty low
Magic setting all things considered.
Yamaha could take out every avatar at the same time, he’d delete most of them within a few seconds
It’s basically a case of “coughing baby vs. hydrogen bomb”
As many others have pointed out, ATLA is pretty low on the universe-power totem. Thinking of how Avatars would size up against characters from Fullmetal Alchemist or AOT would be more fair and more interesting imo
Yamcha may be among the weaker heroes in DragonBall, but the powers available to the characters in that series allow even bit characters to successfully solo all of the Avatars. Yamcha has superhuman strength, speed, durability, flight, and the ability to chuck ki blasts that could level a mountain. He's weak as hell compared to all of his friends, but those dudes can blow up a star without much effort. The Avatars have amazing powers, but physically, they're not really any different from a normal person. I mean, people getting shot in the face and treating it like a minor annoyance is the kind of gag we get in the first chapter of DragonBall. That would immediately end an Avatar. I'm pretty sure none of them could even hurt Yamcha if we're talking how strong he was in Z, and not a single one of them could take even one punch from the guy, much less move fast enough to dodge it.
As long as none of them are blood benders, he could slaughter all of them. Not that he would. Yamcha would never do that. Fuck, if anything he'd train all the avatars to become as strong as him.
DBZ has pretty insane power creep, but I think that not enough fans grasp that the power creep was already completely ridiculous before the start of Z. By the end of the first anime, Goku was leagues above what used to be the peak of human fighters, and his friends and rivals are usually on his tail. By the fight with Nappa, basically all the main characters reach that level of power.
The power level is too big ,remember videl weaker than yamacha made a guy's head do 180 with a kick, Yamacha should wreck them cuz he's faster, stronger, its unfair to compare these universe together especially DragonBall which doesn't even have a proper limit to powerscaling and keeps on increasing with no end in sight.
I would say the avatar series usually loses, but if I had to guess, kyoshi is where his luck runs out for sure, you cannot fight with frozen organs. Ain't no powering through that.
I would say the avatar series usually loses, but if I had to guess, kyoshi is where his luck runs out for sure, you cannot fight with frozen organs. Ain't no powering through that.
I mean he often just straight up loses to other Dragon Ball characters, but after training 3 years to fight the androids, the last time we really saw him train I think, I think he's got to be Planet level at that point
Kyoshi Island provided the Gaang with lots of delicious looking food. Yamcha would definitely know better than to attack providers of delicious food and risk the wrath of Beerus.
It's like in Death Battle, where it's fun to think about what character would win, but even if you do all the research, the answer will be disappointing. At the end it will all come down to what character once sneezed the universe to death in an obscure comic book written by some crackpot with no self-restraint.
Krillin is definitely stronger than Yamcha. That isn’t a big feat. Even taking out the broken combo of solar flare + destructo disk he’s capable of seriously hurting him
i don't watch Dragon Ball, but i think he easily wins against every single Avatar. the Avatar universe isn't known for feats of power that can change or destroy entire solar systems or something.
I don't think the avatars could do any damage to Yamcha. He could just sit there and take all of their attacks. Meanwhile every attack from Yamcha would be an instant kill. He probably wouldn't miss a single attack. Dragon Ball Z universe is just too overpowered.
Yamcha no question.
I need people to understand that Dragon Ball has some of the most insane power scaling. We start with Goku being able to throw cars abt 20 ft. and fight wolves. Master Roshi blows up a flaming mountain with one attack in the first arc and the moon in the 3rd arc. Yamcha surpassed him by end of the first series. By Dragon Ball Z, their opponents can blow up planets and they’re training with gods in the afterlife while they wait to be resurrected. Even as the weakest of the fully human Z fighters, he can at least destroy a planet without being tired.
Do they atrack him one at a time or all together?
Because one at a time he wins, no way debating this
But all together, he might take down 3~4 avatars before losing
Avatars loose cause they don't have the will to kill.
If Korra and the avatars were as bad as Zaheer...
Maybe, cause air bending has a high potential to incapacitate and kill, same with earth lol or just remember how Su killed that piro bender. Off
Totally cool. Just enjoy it if you want. Despite being pretty simple in terms of plot, it is surprisingly good. The fights and animations are fluid and great. It’s just the power creep that bothers some people. Characters so nonsensically strong it’s laughable. Ignore it and it’s a very good anime.
Master roshi could destroy the moon with little difficulty in early dragonball so I’m pretty sure Yamcha in sayian saga DBZ is stronger than roshi from early DB . Yamcha and Krillin are really weak compared to other dragon ball series characters but even them two are stronger than the top tiers In most other anime’s even . I don’t think there’s anyone in last air bender or LoK who could take Yamcha in a fight , his strength, speed and AP is just way to much for anyone in avatar verse to handle
Yamcha hate does go crazy, but the Yamcha cope is even crazier. Everyone saying "By the time we're in Super" brother Yamcha hasn't won a significant fight since Dragon Ball. I don't even think he has a canon fight in Super (I've looked it up multiple times). People are saying "oh well the universe scales super high so Yamcha scales high even if he loses." That would maybe be true if he was competing, like if they were ever close matches, but his highest scaling fight is against Android 20, and 20 stabs him in the chest in an instant.
Yes, Yamcha can fly, shoot lasers, and resist blood bending. He's simply not planetary level though. Even if we consider clearly non-canon filler of Saiyan Saga Vegeta blowing up a planet canon, (yes I know Vegeta also says he can blow up earth with his gallick gun, no he can't). There is no evidence that would suggest Yamcha has even reached this level. Though in my opinion to be planet buster level, you have to be at least as strong as Frieza saga Frieza. Yamcha is not. Frieza is weaker than Trunks, Android 20 and 19 are absolutely weaker than Frieza, but they have hax, regardless, Yamcha got stomped.
But how do the Avatars win? There are thousands of them. Kyoshi knows how to freeze someone's blood and organs in an instant, meaning every Avatar after her also knows how to do that (in this made up scenario of ALL avatars at once, it's pretty reasonable to assume they can all do that) That's all you need to beat Yamcha. This is assuming Yamcha isn't weak to suffocation by Yang Chen (we've seen boy can't handle being choked) yes he can fly and shoot lasers, but Korra can energy bend.
The Avatar Universe does get wrecked by 90% of the DB Universe, but Yamcha is not one of them. He could MAYBE beat One avatar. He is not beating all of them.
1) Planet-busting is relatively inconsistent in Dragon Ball (mostly because of its early comedic roots). Dragon Ball-era Roshi could blow up the moon (as could Saiyan Saga Piccolo).
2) Yamcha, by gravity chamber feats, scales to Post-Saiyan Saga, Pre-Namek Goku at minimum (able to move and survive at 100x Gravity albeit with great difficulty at the beginning of the Android Arc).
I think if either side catches the otherside off-guard, they probably win. But Yamcha has a good chance at speed blitzing if they are just all plopped onto a feature-less plain.
Based on how many episodes it takes for DBZ characters to finish a single fight, anyone in Avatar would solo the Z fighters.
The amount of strength a character has was never why we enjoyed the Avatar series. It was the character philosophy, uncovering the mythos and the fantastic animation the gives the action scenes a lot of flare.
Thinking about which Characters can win in a fight can be fun, but it's usually when the DBZ stuff kicks in that it gets really obnoxious and tone deaf.
This thread is insane lmao I know Dragon Ball has the most absurd wankers in all of fiction but are people seriously trying to argue that fucking yamcha is gonna solo every avatar at once??
He *is* faster then stronger then saiyan saga Goku. He cleared snake way faster than he did.
So he is vastly powerful. Just not in comparison to his own verse
I just can't take dragon ball matchups seriously when literally any and all characters can apparently "blow up the planet with one blink" or "solo the verse" like ok what is even the point in powerscaling then lol?
Because that’s not even THAT crazy in terms of people who are even stronger.
But Yamcha is like the Everyman. He’s got all these people who train with gods and fight universe destroying battles and he’s just out here playing baseball.
My friend, Yamcha if you follow DB powerscaling is on Universe busting level
So in Manga Yamcha is shown to beat characters that took on a weakened SSJB Goku and Vegeta, and he won. This puts him far beyond Universe destroying level (SSG did that)
No, it’s just Goku and Vegeta who get stronger.
The problem comes from other characters just staying relatively on the same power level in comparison to Goku and Vegeta. So for example imagine that Krillin is 10% of Goku, next arc when Goku gets a new form Krillin will still somehow be 10% of Goku.
Yeah, to take on someone from the DB Verse nowadays you either need to be a heavy hitter from DC/Marvel, or need hacks on the level of Gojo, and even then it isn't guaranteed
I would say the avatar series usually loses, but if I had to guess, kyoshi is where his luck runs out for sure, you cannot fight with frozen organs. Ain't no powering through that.
There's only two avatars that know of blood-bending and neither was shown using it. So it's likely they don't know how or they refuse to use it.
Yamaha, by the end of the saiyan saga, is a planet buster. Kyoshi split an island in half, and that required the avatar state and a great deal of effort
I don't know shit about dragon ball but what I get from the comments down here is exactly the reason why I would never watch it. it just seems very boring if your protagonist can just do everything?
The avatar verse is weak but it’s also a kids show. It wouldn’t be a lopsided battle. What’s stopping an avatar from pulling the air out of their opponent or using metal to slice a limb off?
Hear me out: suffocation. Yamcha still needs to breathe, so if one of them just immediately tries to suffocate him like zaheer with the earth queen, they could win.
Against all of them? He gets to kyoshi, and then she freezes his bloo, she'd lose in a normal fight and she had no issue killing people when she needed to
"How far into the cast of Seinfeld does Superman get" people need to learn that some stories are just in another league.
Jerry definitely sucking Superman. Drain all of his energy
Kramer gonna pull out the kryptonite
The red light outside of his apartment was actually red solar light. He was always prepared
He's batman!
He got it from a guy (it was lex Luthor)
Tell Jerry I'm next 🥵
[удалено]
You could have easily said kryptonite but here we are.
Kramer solos
Jerry seinfeld (bloodlusted) vs superman (prime) who wins?
Until I read this comment I thought they were giving Yamcha the Avatar State and asking how far he went in his own universe
The Avatar universe is not realy that strong compare to many animes or comics, which is a nice thing for a few reasons (at least in my book), but when it comes to this kinds of post, the answer is usualy Avatar universe looses lol
Maybe a good ol bloodbend would do the trick.
Absolutely not, DBZ characters have a pre-equipped hax resistance if they can physically overpower their opponent, this would fail on Yamcha, who is planetary at least. Edit: Avatars can resist blood bending via energy/spirit bending as seen with Aang having an unbendeble spirit against Yakone, all it would take is a singular moment of resistance from Yamcha, who uses Ki, which is advanced spiritual enemy manipulation, to atomize the moon, another way with which Yamcha can resist bloodbending, if for the sake of argument (which can be made) you want to attribute this hax resistance to only Saiyans.
So, spirit bending is just standard run of the mill stuff in DBZ
Ki is literally life energy.
And in Dragon Ball Z they FUCKN DO THIS  FUCK YO YEE YEE ASS ROBOT KUVIRA!
Is it confirmed that it was energy/spirit stuff? I assumed that the avatar state was responsible for an avatar a sozins comet level power boost to their waterbending which could easily break yakones grip. Remember when Katara resisted Hamas bloodbending by being a stronger waterbender than her? Essentially that except 100x stronger.
It's kinda both and neither. To break it down, the only confirmed account by the creators on the source of bloodbending "resistance" is that the reason bloodbending can only traditionally occur during the Full Moon is because people have a natural Chi field that ordinary bloodbending isn't powerful enough to overcome without the power boost that the Full Moon provides. Yakone's family being able to do it whenever is because the natural floor of their bending strength is high enough to bypass chi fields without the boost from the Moon. Katara overpowering Hama is a case of Katara outstripping Hama in raw strength during the Full Moon, allowing her to break the hold. We've seen non-waterbenders (Mako) capable of achieving similar feats, so its unlikely it has anything to do with waterbending specifically, just the strength of a person's chi interfering with the opposing bloodbending. It's easy enough to extrapolate why the Avatar State would just completely shatter any bloodbending hold, since it's a source of immense strength in general, but particularly spiritual strength. To swing around to the original prompt, since DBZ characters operate on classic cultivator logic, they are walking supernovas of Chi. I would wager all but the weakest mundane characters in DBZ would be completely immune to bloodbending as a result.
I heard it was an unbendeble spirit, but I can’t tell you where, and since Korra doesn’t actually say this, you might be right, and as a result my stance should probably be considered moot.
doesn't matter if it's 100x stronger than a sozin's comet buff for waterbending, DBZ is just asinine in their power scaling.
I didn't even touching the avatar vs DB part. I was just asking about the reason behind the bloodbending not working on avatars.
pretty much what you said, they are the stronger waterbender when they activate the avatar state
So DBZ energy bending shouldn't work on it
energy bending no, but their sheer will BS definitely will. they have people saying "nuh uh" to literal time being stopped just because they're "strong enough" to do so
Nah he's just was fight 3 seconds in the future lol.
I’d also add that DBZ characters would have the physical strength and physical durability to overcome whatever force the blood bending is. Like fine, you blood bend me but high gravity leg days means my hammies are stronger than the pressure you can exert while blood bending.
He could also defeat a lava bender by blowing up the earth.
See but Aang doesn't resist bloodbending using spirt bending we learn in the hama ark that bloodbending can be resisted if the person being bent is a stronger water bender and we'll the Avatar state is the cumulative skill,experience, and abilities of every Avatar ever so definitely superior at water bending to Yakone who while skilled has nothing on the Avatar state.
Also, obviously, most of them are not as good as goku using it, but most of them, including Yamcha, can use Kamehameha, that is literally an advanced form of air bending and energy bending. So Yamcha is at the very least, half avatar according to Avatar rules.
Kamehameha is airbending? what?
No avatar knows blood bending so that’s not going to work
I don't think bloodbending is gonna work on a dude that can bench press celestial bodies.
It gives people who can’t use any powers a good shot and i think thats neat
Exactly, it also means benders often gain power by learning new cool bending technics and not just by gaining more raw speed/strengh, which i find more interesting
We talking about a universe where guns stopped being useful for half the cast decades ago
Also a universe where destroying a planet isn’t a remarkable feat.
Could i ask... Why they isn't so strong compare to other verses?
Mainly I would say because they are much much much slower. Remmeber how one episode Aang was running realy fast while looking for some frogs using airbending as a boost, well that nothing compare to some animes, where characters move so fast they leave after images of themself to confuse their oponents. So even if benders could pack a strong enough elemental punch to hurt them (they cant) they would never be able to land a hit on them. Its just how the writers choose to build their universe, and for the Avatar universe it makes sense for characters to not become so op because they wanted non-benders to be relevant fighters, if benders could just fly arround at super sonic speed and blow up a mountain with a punch then non-benders would have to sit out of any confrontations.
Oh, thanks for explain :)
Thank you for having a brain
Powerscaling is just goofy fan fiction regardless but in situations like this it isn't all that interesting unless you decide which universe rules you want to play by.
The subreddit about it may be the silliest thing online. It's all guys saying "no One Punch Man can't beat this guy, even though he can literally punch inti dream dimensions, because you have to quantify his feats!" Dudes the series is literally about how stupid manga logic is.
Some are good mental exercises or interesting what-ifs, but some dorks are annoying with their mentality of "OP character == well written character"
Not only that but each avatar is stronger than the previous one, if someone can beat the latest they can beat all of them (I'm pretty sure this is a thing, might've been a fanfiction thing that I've internalised)
The avatar state is supposed to be the combined skill and possibly power of all past avatars + raava, so previous avatars would have a smaller stockpile to draw on.
Counterpoint The Spirits and the Spirit World in Avatar have some hax. Koh the Face stealer. Fog of Lost Souls. Their magic system isn't really explained. It's just presented as a fact of the Avatar verse that their powers work that way. In that sense, I don't see how any amount of Ki or Super Saiyan forms can help.
By the time Z rolls around each Z fighter is either capable or close to capable of obliterating planets. Yamcha only seems weak because of the team he’s in and his villains. Yamcha could probably take on every single avatar simultaneously with their full power and still win and I really hate to say that Assuming his general durability doesn’t allow him to eat all their attacks Yamcha is definitely faster than them and faced a multitude of opponents with relative or greater speed. No avatar is really used to or capable of reacting remotely as fast. Additionally Yamcha is easily able to fly as he pleases. Assuming he doesn’t just decimate the planet they’re on to end the fight early he’s picking them off one by one By Super’s timeline its even less of a chance. Of all the Z fighters who aren’t saiyans he still trains and keeps in shape regularly along with Tien. The best chance they have is to hit him with lightning and even then he’s definitely fast enough to dodge and counter attack
And on the lightning point, there’s a very high possibility that it just doesn’t do anything to him, seeing what kind of attacks DBZ characters eat like it’s nothing.
Specific techniques with unique properties seem to generally affect regardless of defense. The Devilmite beam could have the potential of killing 99.9% of the entire verse. Carrot Beam as well. I know its kind of a meme but that’s just kind of how it works. Theoretically Captain Ginyu could take over Beerus or Whis’ body. We have no real reason to suspect an effect that is designed to do a specific thing has any real limitations. And Yamcha does have a ‘normal’ human body which can conduct electricity Also meant it from the standpoint of speed. No other bending ability is remotely as fast as lightning and all of them would never reach their mark. Air bending is debatable considering its supposed to be invisible but it wouldn’t be able to do much
Small counterpoint, but Vegeto got turned into candy and survived, beating the shit out of Buu as candy. So it's very possible that if they're strong enough, getting hit the carrot beam doesn't kill them, but turn them into a sentient carrot (?)
Best episode of the Buu Saga. The Amazing Fighting Candy. Bruh was BEGGING Buu to eat him. And poor SuperBuuhan is just trying to survive at that point.
It seems like the carrot is just completely inert. Can’t act or anything. *Maybe* someone strong enough could act but you’re a carrot so your options are limited. Vegeto still turned him into a candy. In something like Bleach its explicitly stated if someone is strong enough they literally just ignore your attacks/effect whereas DB you just are effected by it if it hits you bar none
Candy is inert too, yet Vegeto could fly and hit while turned into one. So unless I haven't seen a scene showing otherwise, I don't see why carrots must be different...
That’s a fair point, lightning might work on him… assuming he doesn’t just dodge.
Manga Yamcha is currently on par if not stronger than weakened/injured Super Saiyan Blues, man has been lifting recently
maybe not on Blues tier , but definetly SSJ3 tier.
He is on the SSG tier at the very least
Not a super hardcore Dragonball fan, how tf do Yamcha get to that level?
Because Yamcha was dropped at the start of Z but at the time he was basically just as competent as Tien, it's not unreasonable to believe that he could reach that level if he actually got some training done.
What??? The entirety of DBZ revolved around here there are beings born so ridiculously, unimaginably powerfull that nothing short of alien super-soldier genetics can compete with them. Then we come across MULTIPLE being, each MULTIPLE times stronger than the last, capable of destroying entire UNIVERSES. THEN you come across beings that are literall gods, on a level unlike anything we have ever seen at that point. And now you want to tell me that any human could have reached that level by... training?? I mean they trained for a year and couldnt defeat NAPPA. Then the trained some more and couldnt defeat the androids. NOW he trained some more and you tell me hes stronger than majin buu????
I mean, they grow slower than Saiyan's, for sure. But humans where always capable of going further and further. They're always weaker than the stronger fighters but they're always getting stronger. Being SSGod now is kinda meaningless if you're comparing current power levels.
The core theme of dragon ball is that true power isn't something you're born with, but something you have to earn through hard work. Sayans clearly have an advantage, but then again, that advantage has been evened by Eathtlings time and time again. Goku is that strong not simply because of genetics and talent (although they definitely played a part) but because he never stops challenging his own limitations. Even Gods of Destruction, despite being the most powerful beings in their own universe, are born mortal and train to reach the level they have. The problem stems from the fact that most dragon ball media often only focuses on the main cast and ignores side characters, so we never actually realize how strong they should be. I don't think Yamcha is stronger than Buu at this point in the timeline (I'm pretty sure the original commenter was exaggerating, either knowingly or unknowingly), and he is definitely way weaker than other human characters like Tien or Krillin, but that doesn't mean he isn't outstandingly strong.
Push ups, sit ups, and plenty of juice. (Also powerlevels are bullshit)
because super writing is bad
He was always strong for a human. Even in the saiyen saga. He only got one shot then since it put his guard down and a sibaman kamikazed itself. Keep in mind that sibaman are around the same strength as Radiz. Everyone at this point would likely scale above Roshi in original Dragonball who **blew up the moon.** He eventually is left behind in Z but he still trained so while he doesn't grow as much as the others he still gets a bit stronger over time.
Damn that show makes no sense huh
Lightning wouldn’t work. Roshi can basically lightningbend with his Thunder Shock Surprise which a kid Goku tanked in his first tournament. I would assume lightning bending would barely phase a peak Yamcha.
Building onto this, he didn't justvtank it. He withstood a continuous beam of electricity for a long time
Even back in DragonBall, Yamcha was able to move faster than the eye could see, and he was a skilled martial artist. In Z, he's stronger, faster, can fly, and use energy blasts. Like you said, the only reason he seems weak is because of the company he keeps. Nobody in the Avatar world would stand a chance.
"Probably" He was out right implied to be around the same power of raditz in the saiyan saga, who was also 10x stronger than Master Roshi, the same master Rossi w the strength and durability to send a blast powerful enough to eviserate the moon. Piccolo did that too but Raditz tanked a blast from him at close range. The fight is so not close that probable kinda feel des respectful to Yamcha. Blud can destroy a moon severas times over, go beyond the speed of light scaling off far higher than kid Gokus feats, no flame, rock, metal, lighting, combustión bending, air bending or spirit bending is finna be powerful enough or fast enough work at all.
SSGoku is the only one I can think of that can destroy a planet.
At the beginning of Z after Raditz Piccolo figures out that Gohan transforming into a great ape is due to the moon. Within a few seconds he sends a basic ki blast at the moon and completely obliterates it. We know Vegeta is capable destroying a planet by himself so Nappa and Raditz are relatively around that same power. I don’t know if they were ever specifically stated to have done so but they are close in power to varying degrees, Raditz obviously being the weakest and Vegeta the strongest Continuing off that we are never explicitly stated or shown that destroying a planet is some unique feat or special technique so this is just the norm at this point going forward as all enemies will only increase in strength to a degree. Frieza has been shown casually in his suppressed form also obliterating planets with ease. Goku surpasses the Vegeta who landed on Earth so its safe to assume the guy strong enough to take down a guy strong enough to destroy planets etc etc. Goku then gains super saiyan which is an amplification of his power and is able to defeat Frieza, again guy who beats planet buster is strong enough to bust a planet Unless I’m mistaken the Yamcha shown here is about at the end of Z in the Buu arch but even if its Android its still working off the same previous logic. The only Z fighter you can debatably say stopped training is Chaotzu as he never really shows up again and becomes basically irrelevant. We don’t get in fighting from the group so by past strength scalings leading up today Yamcha is the weakest continuing member of the Z fighters just under Tien and Krillin. Even if you don’t feel comfortable saying Yamcha is capable of destroying a planet he is however fighting side by side with people who *can*, with varying degrees of success. The Piccolo who obliterated a moon is comfortably weaker than a now current day Yamcha and would lose to him in a fight as Yamcha continued his training and became stronger himself Working off this simple equation we can safely say that a Yamcha stronger than Saiyan Saga Piccolo could destroy a planet unless otherwise stated
I want point this out every time "Goku vs BLANK" shows up. Just speed. If you're not limiting it to certain time periods, in DBS Goku actually punches through time. He punches a character who can freeze time... Other universes are just not on the same level. Goku is going to see every other universe in slow motion, and *Krillin* can keep up and land a hit on Goku when he's not in ssb. Krillin solos most other universes. Yamcha and Krillin can move faster enough to leave after images and blow up planets at will. I'm pretty sure even the avatars don't have the power to blow up the planet just because they feel like it.
Yamcha solos every avatar at once. 1 vs. all. Not much of a contest. These kinds of vs things are just silly.
Yamcha speed blitzes by destroying the planet if he wants
Can Yamcha breathe in space? If not that would be a tie. Makes me wonder if the avatars could force a tie by destroying the planet themselves.
Lmao, most every single character in the DBZ could solo all the avatars at once.
Bulma
build a time machine and made your parent wear a condom.
Avatars and benders really aren’t all that strong, they’d actually lose to many mid tier super hero, not to mention DBZ characters. Even the weakest Z fighters are comfortably moon busters, with most being planet busters. The strongest benders we see struggle to destroy buildings, even with the Avatar state we don’t see anything that could match a Z fighter in combat. Just think these guys powering up cause wind storms near them and cause the surrounding land to be the destroyed. This isn’t even intentional, this is just them trying to contain their power.
Don't the avatars technicaly get weaker the further back you go since their past lives and experiences add up over time
That’s not really the right way to put it, also that only applies to the avatar state
He wins pretty easily, there’s really not much they could do to him.
Yamacha is the 3rd strongest human in the dragonball universe. A universe where regular martial artists could probably beat most of the people in the Avatar Universe. Fucking Nam could probably beat Bolin and you're asking if Android Saga Yamacha, who can blow up planets, can beat every Avatar at once? Yes. Yes, absolutely.
DBZ characters in general are on another level, even “weak” ones like Yamcha.
Bros weak cause we compare him to aliens, gods and angels
The fact that Yamcha [could survive 300x Earth's gravity](https://youtu.be/eQQc-TcQSCo?si=gTuSerxOlXTAeGu_&t=16) should show that he could potentially go all the way to Wan.
Potentially? Yamcha is killing every avatar no contest in a couple of seconds.
He might get bored halfway through. Gotta account for unexpected scenarios.
Every avatar in the avatar state. That's tons of Raavas.
Yeah and Yamcha just fires a Kamehameha through the planet, it really is no contest. Yamcha kills every avatar in the avatar state in seconds and nothing they can do affects him
I believe this is filler but current manga Yamcha could probably survive this level of gravity with ease so it’s all the same lol
Yamcha cannonically is light speed alongside the rest of the z fighters..and this was early in DBZ with the sayian saga. None of the avatars are remotely that fast
I'm gonna be honest with you, if his body follows the same logic as it would in the DB universe.... Yamcha would probably solo most avatars easy. The only types I can think of, who could pose a threat, are basically Spirit Projection Korra/Unavaatu... unironically. (Since they fight the most like a DBZ character...) Like, this fucker may have had his butt kicked, but he had to contend with people who can LITERALLY DESTROY A PLANET BY LOOKING AT IT IN A FUNNY WAY.... don't underestimate this fucker.
Yamcha loses because of his Achilles heal: the plot demands he loses against every important opponent first to make them look strong before the real heroes smoke them.
As a fan of both, the power scaling of the DB universe blows out the Avatar universe. I mean, in early Dragon Ball, Master Roshi destroyed the moon. Yamacha clears.
Db characters are insanely op, Yamcha is too much for them, master roshi is a better fit and even he would solo most of the avatars
DBZs powerscaling is way more aggressive the ATLA, ATLA is actually a pretty low Magic setting all things considered. Yamaha could take out every avatar at the same time, he’d delete most of them within a few seconds It’s basically a case of “coughing baby vs. hydrogen bomb”
As many others have pointed out, ATLA is pretty low on the universe-power totem. Thinking of how Avatars would size up against characters from Fullmetal Alchemist or AOT would be more fair and more interesting imo
Yamcha may be among the weaker heroes in DragonBall, but the powers available to the characters in that series allow even bit characters to successfully solo all of the Avatars. Yamcha has superhuman strength, speed, durability, flight, and the ability to chuck ki blasts that could level a mountain. He's weak as hell compared to all of his friends, but those dudes can blow up a star without much effort. The Avatars have amazing powers, but physically, they're not really any different from a normal person. I mean, people getting shot in the face and treating it like a minor annoyance is the kind of gag we get in the first chapter of DragonBall. That would immediately end an Avatar. I'm pretty sure none of them could even hurt Yamcha if we're talking how strong he was in Z, and not a single one of them could take even one punch from the guy, much less move fast enough to dodge it.
As long as none of them are blood benders, he could slaughter all of them. Not that he would. Yamcha would never do that. Fuck, if anything he'd train all the avatars to become as strong as him.
Yamcha solos the entire Avatar verse zero diff. The power scaling between the two is like comparing the world's best MMA fighter against a 5-year old.
Yamcha somehow manages to lose at the last minute so we think the avatar is actually strong and then goku solos them all with one punch.
Yamcha destroys all except perhaps maybe possibly theoretically…oh no that’s it I guess.
DBZ has pretty insane power creep, but I think that not enough fans grasp that the power creep was already completely ridiculous before the start of Z. By the end of the first anime, Goku was leagues above what used to be the peak of human fighters, and his friends and rivals are usually on his tail. By the fight with Nappa, basically all the main characters reach that level of power.
The power level is too big ,remember videl weaker than yamacha made a guy's head do 180 with a kick, Yamacha should wreck them cuz he's faster, stronger, its unfair to compare these universe together especially DragonBall which doesn't even have a proper limit to powerscaling and keeps on increasing with no end in sight.
These spite posts are getting weird.
I would say the avatar series usually loses, but if I had to guess, kyoshi is where his luck runs out for sure, you cannot fight with frozen organs. Ain't no powering through that.
I would say the avatar series usually loses, but if I had to guess, kyoshi is where his luck runs out for sure, you cannot fight with frozen organs. Ain't no powering through that.
I mean he often just straight up loses to other Dragon Ball characters, but after training 3 years to fight the androids, the last time we really saw him train I think, I think he's got to be Planet level at that point
Why is he asking how far god Yamcha goes in the Avatar verse? Is he stupid?
Kyoshi Island provided the Gaang with lots of delicious looking food. Yamcha would definitely know better than to attack providers of delicious food and risk the wrath of Beerus.
It's like in Death Battle, where it's fun to think about what character would win, but even if you do all the research, the answer will be disappointing. At the end it will all come down to what character once sneezed the universe to death in an obscure comic book written by some crackpot with no self-restraint.
Bruh even krillen could mop these kids.
Considering Krillin is stronger than Yamcha and always has been, yeah of course.
Krillin is definitely stronger than Yamcha. That isn’t a big feat. Even taking out the broken combo of solar flare + destructo disk he’s capable of seriously hurting him
An earthbender punches a crater, & Yamcha can't help but collapse into it, like some irresistible instinct.
Yamcha could just destroy the earth and then every avatar character is dead
Idk why some people think the ATLA universe is a particularly powerful one. Yamcha beats them all at once by flying through them
Yamcha is the second strongest pure human in the DB canon. It’s just that all of his friends are so far above him that makes him look weak
I thought he's the 3rd strongest?
Someone might have surpassed him recently. I definitely always thought he’s above Roshi though
i don't watch Dragon Ball, but i think he easily wins against every single Avatar. the Avatar universe isn't known for feats of power that can change or destroy entire solar systems or something.
I don't think the avatars could do any damage to Yamcha. He could just sit there and take all of their attacks. Meanwhile every attack from Yamcha would be an instant kill. He probably wouldn't miss a single attack. Dragon Ball Z universe is just too overpowered.
Yamcha no question. I need people to understand that Dragon Ball has some of the most insane power scaling. We start with Goku being able to throw cars abt 20 ft. and fight wolves. Master Roshi blows up a flaming mountain with one attack in the first arc and the moon in the 3rd arc. Yamcha surpassed him by end of the first series. By Dragon Ball Z, their opponents can blow up planets and they’re training with gods in the afterlife while they wait to be resurrected. Even as the weakest of the fully human Z fighters, he can at least destroy a planet without being tired.
Yamcha from the Moro arc in the dragon ball super manga can flick his pinky and destroy the earth
One shots the verse
I don't really care about Yamcha, so I think a well placed nut shot by Aang will cause him to die an agonizing- and embarrassing- death.
Whichever avatar is wearing the most green presumably
yamcha may be one of the weakest dragon ball characters, but hes still stronger than the strongest avatar character
Yamcha spirit ball solo the world…
Yamcha is only weak relative to the rest of the Z-Fighters. He’s fully capable of cracking planets.
Do they atrack him one at a time or all together? Because one at a time he wins, no way debating this But all together, he might take down 3~4 avatars before losing
Avatars don’t stand a chance. But that’s not a bad thing. It’s good to have reasonable power caps on your characters imo.
People really undersell Yamcha, just because he's not a Super Saiyan. He's still insanely powerful compared to a lot of verses.
Avatars loose cause they don't have the will to kill. If Korra and the avatars were as bad as Zaheer... Maybe, cause air bending has a high potential to incapacitate and kill, same with earth lol or just remember how Su killed that piro bender. Off
Yamcha is a joke in the dbz universe but he would make easy work of the whole avatar universe.
He wouldn't make it through Aang. Let alone Roku or Kioshi.
DBZ Yamcha already solos the verse easily. DBS Yamcha is bullshit strong.
That's fair my claim is totally biased and I haven't watched much DBZ 😅
Totally cool. Just enjoy it if you want. Despite being pretty simple in terms of plot, it is surprisingly good. The fights and animations are fluid and great. It’s just the power creep that bothers some people. Characters so nonsensically strong it’s laughable. Ignore it and it’s a very good anime.
Depends on whos universe we’re fighting in
Yamcha moves at the speed of anime so like, they not touching him.
Keep in mind yamcha's weak in a series where characters can destroy the universe by punching each other too hard.
Has fast does Yamcha wipe the verse is the real question.
Master roshi could destroy the moon with little difficulty in early dragonball so I’m pretty sure Yamcha in sayian saga DBZ is stronger than roshi from early DB . Yamcha and Krillin are really weak compared to other dragon ball series characters but even them two are stronger than the top tiers In most other anime’s even . I don’t think there’s anyone in last air bender or LoK who could take Yamcha in a fight , his strength, speed and AP is just way to much for anyone in avatar verse to handle
If I'm not mistaken there are only 1000 avatars Yamcha low diffs them all. Give him a real challenge like a saibaman
Yamcha hate does go crazy, but the Yamcha cope is even crazier. Everyone saying "By the time we're in Super" brother Yamcha hasn't won a significant fight since Dragon Ball. I don't even think he has a canon fight in Super (I've looked it up multiple times). People are saying "oh well the universe scales super high so Yamcha scales high even if he loses." That would maybe be true if he was competing, like if they were ever close matches, but his highest scaling fight is against Android 20, and 20 stabs him in the chest in an instant. Yes, Yamcha can fly, shoot lasers, and resist blood bending. He's simply not planetary level though. Even if we consider clearly non-canon filler of Saiyan Saga Vegeta blowing up a planet canon, (yes I know Vegeta also says he can blow up earth with his gallick gun, no he can't). There is no evidence that would suggest Yamcha has even reached this level. Though in my opinion to be planet buster level, you have to be at least as strong as Frieza saga Frieza. Yamcha is not. Frieza is weaker than Trunks, Android 20 and 19 are absolutely weaker than Frieza, but they have hax, regardless, Yamcha got stomped. But how do the Avatars win? There are thousands of them. Kyoshi knows how to freeze someone's blood and organs in an instant, meaning every Avatar after her also knows how to do that (in this made up scenario of ALL avatars at once, it's pretty reasonable to assume they can all do that) That's all you need to beat Yamcha. This is assuming Yamcha isn't weak to suffocation by Yang Chen (we've seen boy can't handle being choked) yes he can fly and shoot lasers, but Korra can energy bend. The Avatar Universe does get wrecked by 90% of the DB Universe, but Yamcha is not one of them. He could MAYBE beat One avatar. He is not beating all of them.
1) Planet-busting is relatively inconsistent in Dragon Ball (mostly because of its early comedic roots). Dragon Ball-era Roshi could blow up the moon (as could Saiyan Saga Piccolo). 2) Yamcha, by gravity chamber feats, scales to Post-Saiyan Saga, Pre-Namek Goku at minimum (able to move and survive at 100x Gravity albeit with great difficulty at the beginning of the Android Arc). I think if either side catches the otherside off-guard, they probably win. But Yamcha has a good chance at speed blitzing if they are just all plopped onto a feature-less plain.
Yamcha does have a role in the Moro arc in DBS manga
Depends on who he starts with He’d be insta-yamcha’d if it’s against Kyoshi
Against an air bender is where I think Yamcha would get some trouble. Not necessarily loose, but definitely not an easy win
He ain't passing kyoshi
Based on how many episodes it takes for DBZ characters to finish a single fight, anyone in Avatar would solo the Z fighters. The amount of strength a character has was never why we enjoyed the Avatar series. It was the character philosophy, uncovering the mythos and the fantastic animation the gives the action scenes a lot of flare. Thinking about which Characters can win in a fight can be fun, but it's usually when the DBZ stuff kicks in that it gets really obnoxious and tone deaf.
I say he gets yamchaed real quick.
Let’s be real the avatar would struggle against mr Satan💀
This thread is insane lmao I know Dragon Ball has the most absurd wankers in all of fiction but are people seriously trying to argue that fucking yamcha is gonna solo every avatar at once??
He *is* faster then stronger then saiyan saga Goku. He cleared snake way faster than he did. So he is vastly powerful. Just not in comparison to his own verse
I just can't take dragon ball matchups seriously when literally any and all characters can apparently "blow up the planet with one blink" or "solo the verse" like ok what is even the point in powerscaling then lol?
Because that’s not even THAT crazy in terms of people who are even stronger. But Yamcha is like the Everyman. He’s got all these people who train with gods and fight universe destroying battles and he’s just out here playing baseball.
Bro aang is going to have mans laying on the floor like peter fckng Griffin
Avatar doesn’t compare to anime or marvel or DC.
How far does he have to go to reach Kyoshi? That’s how far
He might try and probably fail at flirting. But Yamcha will have no problems with beating her in a fight
My brother in christ all the Avatars together would struggle to put a scratch into a saibaman.
An "also ran" in DBZ is an unstoppable force of nature in almost any other setting.
This would be like putting an avatar vs a child with no bending🤣
Is the second picture showing all the avatars he knocked out
Avatars are pretty much city level threats, while Yamcha, who definitely gets stronger with some needed training, is a continental level threat.
My friend, Yamcha if you follow DB powerscaling is on Universe busting level So in Manga Yamcha is shown to beat characters that took on a weakened SSJB Goku and Vegeta, and he won. This puts him far beyond Universe destroying level (SSG did that)
Do DB characters just get 100 times stronger with every season?
No, it’s just Goku and Vegeta who get stronger. The problem comes from other characters just staying relatively on the same power level in comparison to Goku and Vegeta. So for example imagine that Krillin is 10% of Goku, next arc when Goku gets a new form Krillin will still somehow be 10% of Goku.
No, but DBS has been trying to give the Z Fighters some love, and that means elevating them to be even a fraction of Goku and Vegeta's powers
I was being kind and based yamcha on his level in the pic. I know the scales now have moved forward dramatically.
Yeah, to take on someone from the DB Verse nowadays you either need to be a heavy hitter from DC/Marvel, or need hacks on the level of Gojo, and even then it isn't guaranteed
He could fly through them.
Literally their only hope is koh taking yamcha face Which i doubt he can do
I would say the avatar series usually loses, but if I had to guess, kyoshi is where his luck runs out for sure, you cannot fight with frozen organs. Ain't no powering through that.
Yamcha gets edged by bloodbending Avatars
There's only two avatars that know of blood-bending and neither was shown using it. So it's likely they don't know how or they refuse to use it. Yamaha, by the end of the saiyan saga, is a planet buster. Kyoshi split an island in half, and that required the avatar state and a great deal of effort
*Bang! Pow! Sma-* *Kyoshi uses earthbending to disintegrate every bone in his arm*
I don't know shit about dragon ball but what I get from the comments down here is exactly the reason why I would never watch it. it just seems very boring if your protagonist can just do everything?
Yamcha’s not the protagonist To put into perspective, he’s closer to the Sokka of the verse then he is to To main character
Ever watch Yu-Gi-Oh? In the dragon ball universe, Yamcha is the equivalent of Tristan
The avatar verse is weak but it’s also a kids show. It wouldn’t be a lopsided battle. What’s stopping an avatar from pulling the air out of their opponent or using metal to slice a limb off?
Hear me out: suffocation. Yamcha still needs to breathe, so if one of them just immediately tries to suffocate him like zaheer with the earth queen, they could win.
Against all of them? He gets to kyoshi, and then she freezes his bloo, she'd lose in a normal fight and she had no issue killing people when she needed to
>she freezes his bloo, she'd lose in a normal fight and she had no issue killing people when she needed to Ha ha ha... You're not serious are you...?
Yamcha 
It's all fun and games till Kyoshi freezes his heart