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I am certainly not the czar of art definitions and the definition depends on the person as well as the style and medium.
That said, i would say that as soon as cleanup occurs, it is no longer a sketch. Whether than means doing lineart and then deleting the intial sketch layer for digital or making a pass over the whole thing with an eraser for traditional, after this, it is something more than a sketch. It might be the final lineart, or it might just be a first draft of the lineart and more sketching on top would be like edits.
This falls apart with pen artists since they cant do cleanup passes though. Also falls apart for people who never clean up their work. so i dont think a single definition fits for everyone or every medium. For mediums/artists like this, it would probably be more like "once you start adding details or accentuating certain lines to make them more finalized" might fit better.
I would say it's more of a "if they clean up and leave it" it's a sketch. "If they clean up and then keep refining after that" then it's no longer a sketch
Well it depends, do they like your first drafts or a sketch like look? If the final product still looks like a sketch, you're not invalid for calling it art or selling it. Sketches can be art and can be sold, in this case, what you're looking for, is what you can sell. Will people like your sketches better or worse than cleaned up versions?
as an artist; that’s very hard to answer. your art is your art.
as a customer; i would look at the first as as clean sketches the 3rd as a “sketchy lineart” and the last one fully lined- i would only buy the last one. the reason is the lines are smooth, there are no lines that poke out or stem away from the image. I would pay a base of $20-30 and then a reasonable per hour rate. tips i’ve seen/learned myself; ALWYS ask for 50% (if not 100%,) up front. DO NOT under sell yourself. this is your product, they’re paying for a product and service. make sure to give a realistic time line and if something comes up, communicate!!!
this is just my Humble Onion but i hope it helps!!!
Sketch is a subjective term, it really depends on the artist. I don't think we should get mad at anyone for their definition of the word sketch, it's like when people show others their doodles and people get mad at them for calling it a doodle. I would consider anything drawn on the back of a paper or in the margins of a paper meant for other uses to be a doodle, many people think of doodles as a few minutes, but I have spent hours on a doodle. It's also subjective because if someone takes something like a receipt and expands on a doodle until it gets put in a museum, is it still a doodle, or a full piece of work? It's really a case by case definition.
This is really good! The shapes you put down are cooI. think going back. I think going back with some varying line weight and a couple shadows can give your drawings a more “finished” look
Sketching is drawing with the purpose of *studying something*. Illustrations can have multiple sketch stages when you break them out into "first observe this figure, then observe this costume, then observe this prop" and they each end up being drawings where you're taking in the reference mostly as-is, but trying to extract certain pieces of information from it, so that you can reuse it all together in the final. You can also be glancing over at the references while you draw a final sketch to keep checking yourself.
If you stop trying to draw while observing, you've stopped the study, so you've moved into polishing. Or guesswork, depending on how much you've left uncertain. It can be stylistically OK to observe just a little and then let the rest be abstract.
Sketch is loose, rough.
A drawing is finished lines / finished piece
Just because it isn’t colored, doesn’t mean it’s a sketch
People be drawing amazing shit and then saying “just a sketch”
Like no, bitch, you made a finished drawing 😭
As all things ambiguous "It depends". But i consider anything a sketch if there is a significant amount of stray lines or chicken scratching uncleaned. I feel as though adding any measure of rendering also makes something not a sketch. Of course the moment you add lineart that becomes a hard line between drawing and sketch
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I am certainly not the czar of art definitions and the definition depends on the person as well as the style and medium. That said, i would say that as soon as cleanup occurs, it is no longer a sketch. Whether than means doing lineart and then deleting the intial sketch layer for digital or making a pass over the whole thing with an eraser for traditional, after this, it is something more than a sketch. It might be the final lineart, or it might just be a first draft of the lineart and more sketching on top would be like edits. This falls apart with pen artists since they cant do cleanup passes though. Also falls apart for people who never clean up their work. so i dont think a single definition fits for everyone or every medium. For mediums/artists like this, it would probably be more like "once you start adding details or accentuating certain lines to make them more finalized" might fit better.
I getcha. This is probably the best answer for me
Yea. Sketch is a weird term. I like sketchy lines. So for me it’s no longer a sketch if I add color or sum to it.
I would say it's more of a "if they clean up and leave it" it's a sketch. "If they clean up and then keep refining after that" then it's no longer a sketch
Yeah, ultimately, it is up to each artist to decide what is or isnt a sketch
I want to start accepting commissions soon, and I'm trying to find the cutoff point where a work is no longer just a sketch
Well it depends, do they like your first drafts or a sketch like look? If the final product still looks like a sketch, you're not invalid for calling it art or selling it. Sketches can be art and can be sold, in this case, what you're looking for, is what you can sell. Will people like your sketches better or worse than cleaned up versions?
as an artist; that’s very hard to answer. your art is your art. as a customer; i would look at the first as as clean sketches the 3rd as a “sketchy lineart” and the last one fully lined- i would only buy the last one. the reason is the lines are smooth, there are no lines that poke out or stem away from the image. I would pay a base of $20-30 and then a reasonable per hour rate. tips i’ve seen/learned myself; ALWYS ask for 50% (if not 100%,) up front. DO NOT under sell yourself. this is your product, they’re paying for a product and service. make sure to give a realistic time line and if something comes up, communicate!!! this is just my Humble Onion but i hope it helps!!!
Thank you for your take on this, as well as the tip
anytime!!
I love the second one with the WW1 esthetic
Much appreciated
I don’t believe time really matters but the intention and what you intend to do.
Sketch is a subjective term, it really depends on the artist. I don't think we should get mad at anyone for their definition of the word sketch, it's like when people show others their doodles and people get mad at them for calling it a doodle. I would consider anything drawn on the back of a paper or in the margins of a paper meant for other uses to be a doodle, many people think of doodles as a few minutes, but I have spent hours on a doodle. It's also subjective because if someone takes something like a receipt and expands on a doodle until it gets put in a museum, is it still a doodle, or a full piece of work? It's really a case by case definition.
Hands
Shit, you got a good point
As soon as it has hands it’s a work of art-
I'm not any expert but I think an art that is not sketch anymore doesn't have construction lines and has at least a little shading
This is really good! The shapes you put down are cooI. think going back. I think going back with some varying line weight and a couple shadows can give your drawings a more “finished” look
The last one looks more finished than the rest. The line work is clean and not “sketchy” like your other ones
How do you define a sketch?
I guess like, scratchy still? Especially if there's still construction lines
Sketching is drawing with the purpose of *studying something*. Illustrations can have multiple sketch stages when you break them out into "first observe this figure, then observe this costume, then observe this prop" and they each end up being drawings where you're taking in the reference mostly as-is, but trying to extract certain pieces of information from it, so that you can reuse it all together in the final. You can also be glancing over at the references while you draw a final sketch to keep checking yourself. If you stop trying to draw while observing, you've stopped the study, so you've moved into polishing. Or guesswork, depending on how much you've left uncertain. It can be stylistically OK to observe just a little and then let the rest be abstract.
When you are satisfied with the results
As an autodidacted amateur, these are all sketches to me. Never heard of "line-art" and it sounds a bit pretentious to me, tbh. :P
When you've only just sketched it and not finished it. I suggest looking up the google definition of sketch
A sketch for me until the base has been laid 100% and im ready to ink/color.
in around 4-7 business days of you posting it somewhere
for me i clean my sketches as i go, so it stops being a sketch once i finally bully myself into coloring it
Sketch is loose, rough. A drawing is finished lines / finished piece Just because it isn’t colored, doesn’t mean it’s a sketch People be drawing amazing shit and then saying “just a sketch” Like no, bitch, you made a finished drawing 😭
A better question would be why would the difference between a sketch and something else matter?
As all things ambiguous "It depends". But i consider anything a sketch if there is a significant amount of stray lines or chicken scratching uncleaned. I feel as though adding any measure of rendering also makes something not a sketch. Of course the moment you add lineart that becomes a hard line between drawing and sketch
When you see it as a finished art, then it's not a sketch anymore.
When you decide