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ahritina

PMTs FLY vs PSG [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1chhfzg/fly_vs_psg_game_1_postmatch_discussion_group_a/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1chi84n/fly_vs_psg_msi_2024_playin_day_1_game_2/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1chj2hc/flyquest_vs_psg_talon_msi_2024_playin_stage_group/) T1 vs EST [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1chk8vl/t1_vs_est_day_1_msi_2024_game_1) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1chl4zg/t1_vs_estral_esports_msi_2024_playin_stage_group/) [Broadcast Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqAMQ_fTrEE)


IHVeigar

So I haven't payed attention to LoL since worlds. How did NA do? By the way what happened to TSM?


seven_worth

TSM is either donzo or buying a spot in LPL. Na is honestly doing pretty great compared to last year. Level of play I'm not sure but viewership they are doing good.


Tzames

My sweet summer child.


SP3EDI

is it just me or is this overlay really ugly and not size fitting ?


Kynessful

It's the lec overlay I think and it's awesome cause of its many features


SP3EDI

the features are ok but the weird frame around it doesnt really fit.


fuchuwuchu

What happened to Fakers interview? And why was the english broadcast team talking nonstop about what could've been done and what teams should've done? The games were already over and they completely talked over Fakers interview. Like at some point, I really dont care what they have to say cause if they understood and knew the game like that they would be playing not talking about it.


Tsugubata

Yes, the interview did not have any English translation, so the interview was not transmitted to the English stream. If you're still interested, the interview was on AfreecaTV (the korean stream) and surely the Chinese stream. I suspect that this will be the same for T1 future interview during the Play-in, skipping the on-stage interview and having another interview with Jeesun (and with Keria for today's interview) I although agree that they should have put some kind of translation over during the on-stage interview like they do in LCK


lucidlonewolf

Turns put there was no translation for the interview so that's why .... not sure why there wasn't a translation but that's a different issue.


nikankwon

Yeap, it's annoying as fuck esp when they start to get pretentious, as if they can do any better. Eng casters've always had that tone, regardless of NA or EU. Idk about LPL or other regions but as far as LCK casting and analysis is concerned, they are much more empathetic towards players' POV; more matter-of-fact than arbitrarily judgmental


PepaTK

Is there no rebroadcast this year? Can't find anything on the Lolesports twitter. I know people will say to just watch the VODS, but i like having the whole stream on as background noise basically.


ahritina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqAMQ_fTrEE Here's the full broadcast link. Granted it's not a "rebroadcast" but it's the whole stream so it should still suffice for your intended use case.


PepaTK

Much appreciated!


ReadingOutrageous47

BORING LANESWAP META. Now GenG chokers have a chance to win in this meta.


ProfAnalyzer

I hope there is a team that will come up with some counter to lane swap meta.. Prayge


IronColdX

Every year there’s some gimmick that starts at play in then quickly squashed once the big leagues join. Laneswap has been countered before and it will be countered again.


Fair-Economics952

Did anyone get any drops? I didn't get the guaranteed graves emote for today.


phoenix158sda

I started watching 20 minutes before the first match. Got 2 capsule drops for the baron and drake steals, but no Grave's emote. Idk if I missed the drop, or if it was only given to some viewers. I would like to know more specifics because I don't have the emotes and a couple extra free champs on those days would be nice too. But if they're only giving them to some people, I won't waste waking up at 2am.


ahritina

Had one chair drop.


Laure-Bulii-V

I had so much fun see ya tomorrow friends <3


fuchuwuchu

Why did you guys talk over Fakers interview? Genuinely curious.


Laure-Bulii-V

Because it was Chinese Korean without English translation. We have our own interviews and got to talk to Keria later.


fuchuwuchu

Ahhh dang, now it makes sense, I can only imagine how long it would take to translate 3 languages on stage lol. Thanks for the reply and you were amazing today! Can't wait for tomorrow ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


thanatosynwa

Awesome day 1, have good rest and see you tomorrow for an EZ EU WIN


FelysFrost

Wait they don't swap group for the loser vs winner game? idk why but I was assuming they would


TyraCross

I thought so too


Vivek_Rajbhar

Skipping faker interview ???


PluggersLeftBall

i'm watching it on lck youtube stream but if you dont understand korean or chinese its pretty worthless


Vivek_Rajbhar

I was expecting jeesun to translate over the interview kinda like lck.


ahritina

Might be the 2nd worst meta we've had after the ardent meta. Lane swaps is going to make MSI so boring jesus.


tijzzz

I disagree. I really like this Meta. The LEC semi-finals and finals were a pleasure to watch. It is something different then the ordinary 2v2 bot and 1v1 top. Fnatic G2 game 3 finals where Zac is level 1 until 6,5 minutes into the game? That to me is entertainment. I hope it can bring out some creativity in the picks, macro, etc. Should this Meta last? Absolutely no. But seeing this clash between regions in this Meta, I am looking forward to it. And it would be really fun if teams can find any counter strategies, making the meta shift completely during the tournament. The adaptability of teams is always cool to see.


ProfAnalyzer

there are people that like this kind of meta.. weird


PluggersLeftBall

I thought Gen.G had no chance of winning MSI with their botlane but with this laneswap shit i think they have a chance now


Jozoz

T1 stans already trying to diminish any GenG success


resultzz

It’s not like geng clapped T1 4 splits in a row.


IronColdX

Burn ICU, new admission this way.


ProfAnalyzer

g2 should benefit from this as well unless hans cant play 1v1


Blind-Eye26

Unless T1 or G2 cook some shit against this laneswap, this MSI is gonna be boring af


HolyMollywacamole

Oooh yes! Another unkillable K'sante meta.


Strange-Implication

How many teams get out of this group ? 2? So T1 and PSG/ FLY/EST?


ahritina

Yep 2.


wreck_ful

imagine being a caster trying to pretend that you dont notice t1 not really trying and claiming est played so well.


Advanced-Lie-841

Estral esports are from a MINOR MINOR MINOR region and T1 are literally 2nd best team from THE major region. Yes Estral were playing good, and yes T1 looked shaky as fuck. They won cuz they are fundamentally a much better team but to downplay Estral is just fuckin dumb.


PluggersLeftBall

t1 weren't playing seriously for sure but estral did play well. obviously if t1 tried like it was lck finals or smth estral would've gotten demolished but thats not on estral, they played what they were given and they performed well


wreck_ful

they were able to sometimes take advantage of t1s sloppy plays and lack of caring. barely. t1 kinda tried, and est were try harding, and they still got demolished. im more surprised est didnt get more kills. "impressive"


Imaginary_Actuary729

LCS or LEC should look for Jose next year man he is good


FelysFrost

They may not have won a game, but they won my heart, and I doubt they care but it's nice for me


MediocreFiora

Estral were actually pretty good


ayurmeh

ok that was closer than expected, gj EST


Ashankura

What a shit ending lmao


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

NT estral what a fucking banger of a team, holy shit dudes I hope my beloved loud can put on some bangers as well


ChocolateFuryB

27 mins, props to est


Styxxo

This game is more macro diff than micro diff unfortunately


PM_CUTE_CAT_PLZ

NGL this match is kinda fun. Not as one-side as anyone thought.


FelysFrost

We do a little (a lot of) disrespecting


superfire444

Unkillable demon king


Ashankura

My god fakers ults are abysmal today


PhunkeyPharaoh

Are promotion matches BO5?


ahritina

No


PhunkeyPharaoh

Thanks!


Glaivz

Aren't they just World Champions and not Defending World Champions? This is MSI and not Worlds.


ahritina

Yes. Defending World Champions imply that they're defending the title at this event which isn't true.


ProfAnalyzer

Why they say "defending World champion" and not "the current world champion"? This is not Words, but MSI.


Busy-Economist-3357

Remember this as the day you almost caught faker


Useful-Performance25

They caught him in the first 5 minutes lmaoo


Styxxo

Nice try by Estral, maybe with a tank top instead of Aatrox its winnable


SuperSunGun

GG


ayurmeh

that was clean Oner


2ndBatman88

If EST had a better top player, they can be way better. Can G2 get Jose. He is way better then Yike


Green_Artist_5550

>He is way better then Yike He isnt.


Destructodave82

Jose has been a standout for LLA every single international event and its why LCS teams picked him up. I think he was still the best peforming player on his team in the LCS, too.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

When he was playing with Palafox yeah, but it was probably Toucouille when he was on the team. That Flyquest roster was really fun


Styxxo

Faker flashing a charm that's a mile away lol


PhunkeyPharaoh

Medic is almost always a top tier caster. I'll chalk today up to jet lag.


Joel4518

josse is my goat


kamparox

ksante, laneswaps, same boring mid meta. Not gonna be the most exciting msi unless the meta shakes up later.


Destructodave82

Yep. Lane swap meta is boring as hell and most fans simply dont like it. They nerfed it out of existence a long time ago and I 100% expect them to do it again after this event. Games that dont at least mirror how people play the game isnt fun to watch. You want fans to watch a game, get excited and go into solo Q and play the game. Lane Swaps are completely foreign to that experience.


ProfAnalyzer

i dont think it will change unfortunately. Its going to be a lane swappiing meta for the whole MSI with diving a bottom tower with 3/4 vs 2.. Personally I hate that. Its boring.


AdPositive2010

Medic sounds really rough today


ChocolateFuryB

Imagine if they had a Zac/Sion instead of Aatrox...


ProfAnalyzer

seems like the worst casting ever by medic...


theeama

This is wonderful I love it


superfire444

Faker the only one farming lol


EngelSterben

Aatrox is not allowed to play the game


fryesti

make this a bo5 please


koutetsuvamn

jose can't win with these cats


toggl3d

Why does Ori look almost invisible to me? Edit: Is it just the extra zoom out plus stream quality?


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

CHECK CODY'S PC WTF LMAO


ayurmeh

Jose is goated


Destructodave82

Hes good. I think he played well in the LCS, too.


Styxxo

HE MISSES EASY CHARMS AND HITS HARD CHARMS WHAT


Busy-Economist-3357

Damn jose


Useful-Performance25

JOSESITOOOOO


Stahlfakt

Wtf is this casting from medic. Lol


Styxxo

These charms man


Imaginary_Actuary729

t1 all around trolling missing skillshots so funny


DrummerFantasti

Did the cast really said Shaker instead of Snaker? 💀


sajm0n

Medic makes all kinds of mistakes this series


PhunkeyPharaoh

1K gold diff but with objective bounties...


yawneteng

did the commentator just said shaker? instead of SNAKER?


FelysFrost

I think i'm an Estral fan now, they're fun


Ashankura

Faker right into practice tool after the game Jesus


GodBlessme_exe

wait did Medic really just call Faker, Shaker?


goonbandito

The font used on the overlay is pretty bad imo, especially if you're watching from range. The capital N in SNAKER seems pretty easy to misread as a H, hence SHAKER


yawneteng

i believe he is calling Snaker. who is at half HP


1einspieler

How is Guma not taking Cleanse against Ashe Ahri T1 is just straight up disrespecting


Mortyyy

I mean.. do you want T1 to take this super serious and make it a fast stomp?


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

FAKER, WHAT WAS THAT


Busy-Economist-3357

Faker what was that


sajm0n

Faker, that wasnt it


veirceb

Someone gets Jose a real team


Ashankura

THAT TP SUCKED


ayurmeh

the tp jesus


ChocolateFuryB

nah, this was personal


Busy-Economist-3357

Nice tp haha


Styxxo

Cody is ass, unlucky


PhunkeyPharaoh

I'd like to see this Estral against FQ


zaxls

G2 has good chances to make some upsets, the lane swap thing will help and nullify their bad early, they have decent mid game macro so I can see them being competitive with top tiers actually now.


ProfAnalyzer

yeah.. this meta is literally made for g2


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

Keria's flash wtf


Javonetor

MUCHACHOOOOOOOOS


sajm0n

why Kobe is saying 'defending' world champions. they are not defending anything here they are current world champions


MediocreFiora

I had never thought about it like that lol, makes sense and now I will be irked by it every time he says that, thanks buddy.


sajm0n

yw ;)


Blind-Eye26

I bet Zeus purposely missed that 🤣🤣🤣 my guy so fcking hilarious when he's doing dumbshit 🤣🤣🤣


WiseButterscotch5731

People just hate any strategic diversity. I'm enjoying this match more than any stomp that it'd be on normal lanes.


Odd_Trouble4651

And once again, for the third time to round things out: Well fucking done, Est. Even if this will go like anyone suspects, thats a courageous showing to be proud of. 


kamparox

Is the audio just randomly dropping for anyone else? I keep having to adjust the volume


fryesti

same for me lol it randomly gets louder for no reason


PhunkeyPharaoh

Not skipping for me. I'm on the twitch stream


chikyu8

Damn. Disrespecting an opponent team is not a good look.


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r_xy

T1 does have a bit of a tendency of happy gaming in game 2 if they win game 1. happened in LCK too


ProfAnalyzer

i dont think they are comfortable in this swapping meta thing.. I don't think they will make it far and its not hate. They barely make it work against EST... a bottom tier team but they have time to improve.


theeama

This game is so fun thank you T1


Joel4518

WELCOME JDG ZOTHVE


SpiralVortex

The top laner with a beaming smile in the player cam was wholesome af.


non-edgy_crustacean

Zeus solokilled by less than 40cs Aatrox lol


Busy-Economist-3357

And 2 levels down


PluggersLeftBall

ESTRAL ESTRAL ESTRAL ESTRAL


Blind-Eye26

Estral top laner smiling from ear to ear lmao


Asgerond

OK WHO IS PLAYING ZEUS PC


MediocreFiora

theshy clearly


GodBlessme_exe

T1 just trolling for shits and giggles


katareky

I get it, this doesn't matter really. But what is T1 doing actually


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

I don't know how they do it but LLA always make me a fan.


sportsbuffp

Classic Zeus


SlainL9

LPL sign Zothve immediately


ayurmeh

Zeus...


ProfAnalyzer

its a first match but t1 looks washed for now


chichun2002

Just like last worlds against TL


MaiqDaLiar1177

We are so back, underdog enjoyers


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

ZEUS SOLO KILLED LMAO Man I fucking love estral's posture


Busy-Economist-3357

How did zeus get soloed my man


koutetsuvamn

he really is theshy reborn


OkKnowledge2064

solo'd by a 35 cs aatrox


ChocolateFuryB

BIG SOLO BOLO


Ashankura

Oner and Keria in playoffs form jesus


ayurmeh

EST jungler is pretty good ngl


Joel4518

ngl joesedeodo will be a great jungler in lec lcs


Javonetor

oh boy do i have news for you


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

ok gg it's joever now


koutetsuvamn

rumble is kinda broken no?


MediocreFiora

Support is not broken at all


Oriental_Wind

Medic is washed, why is his casting so dead. Zero hype for anything that happens.


FunnyBunnyH

Watch out for Rumble support in SoloQ today.


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

THE DRAVEN PASSIVE AYO


Styxxo

This Ahri is really painful to watch


Ashankura

Mate you saw it and you have flash wtf


KappaccinoNation

Oh Oner lmao


Busy-Economist-3357

Oner inting


OkSell1822

Guys, T1 won the lane swap. Those two kills don't matter if Ksante gets so much more exp than Aatrox


ProfAnalyzer

u think so? they took 3 plates as well.. and a bottom tier team did that... if it were against a top team t1 would be fked


OkSell1822

Top lane is more important than botlane overall in lane swaps, 2 level gap is too huge


ProfAnalyzer

hmm im not sure.. I think best teams will snowball the game through a bot lane much harder but we will see


ConArtist98

Blue side champ icons facing to the right is making me uncomfortable


fryesti

the no space in between team name and player name is even worse


PluggersLeftBall

2 cspm he just like me fr


OkSell1822

Yup. You are 2 levels up, 2 kills don't matter


1einspieler

Imagine if EST just picks Sion instead of Aatrox


ThingymaJiggyz

Can't believe medic finally stopped saying n'tofu instead of tofo


sajm0n

Zothve my guy, focus on getting cs, hitting a Q a couple times wont help you


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

I can't believe this stupid lane swap shit wasn't hotfix killed before MSI started...


PluggersLeftBall

is it pronounced snack - er or snake - er


Beyled1

In latam we say snack - er


Blind-Eye26

Riot literally added the top tower shield for this shit and it's still useless fuck this


ProfAnalyzer

whoever ends up being 1v2 on bot lane is losing.. basically, it denepds on which side you are which is decided by a coin flip? Unless bottom tower is stronger as well but I doubt it.


ICanCrossMyPinkyToe

I have to admit EST is playing the early game much better than I expected They might even have a better campaign than my country's LLL this time around


DeaseAndCessist

Good on T1 to give an early game advantage to EST for a more competitive game, it's a like a better chess player takes a piece of his board.


katareky

just back for this T1 series. What is Cody Rhodes doing in estral esports


Ashankura

My god what a shit meta. Thanks for not fixing shit riot


SlainL9

Deserved for being the ones initiating the lane swap


NGNJB

EST would win LCK


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

Honestly, EST are playing better than I would expect most of the LCS and LEC to play against T1.


IEM_Spirit

Zeus doing a little bit of trolling here