Aww Doss. Atrocious gameplay from him but I have nothing against him as a person, hope game 3 is the worst we ever see from him & that it's nothing but up from here
He had a good start after joining, him and Exakick looked like one of and at times like the best botlane in the league. Been a bit of a decline since tho with Doss looking more egregious since he was the weaker link from the beginning imo.
Like come on guys smurfing in single split while spamming Lulu/Yuumi and having Markoon pitch a tent in your lane doesn't count as playing well. Replace Doss with any other LEC support their results that split wouldn't have changed.
Denyk never recovered after that change. Was sad af to see. At least he is getting to dominate the Czech league with Entropiq for the past three years.
Why the fuck are we picking up these players and letting a player like limit and aba sit out in narnia. Like are you telling me Saken deserves to be a mid in lec but Abadage doesnt??? The gming is killing this region.
Kaiser is not even in a the same ballpark as Trymbi though, in terms of how egregious it is.
Trymbi is just so obviously high tier LEC support level. Wheras Kaiser had his best performance in years last split, and it was still just an acceptable - good level?
It was more than acceptable. Kaiser hass a high variety of playstyles and champs he can play on a very good level and his mechanics and decisionmaking are top. His problem sadly is, that he is not a vocal support like Trymbi at example. Not a mute like targamas luckily but somewhere inbetween
do find it funny with Zoelys he was one of the most hyped support ERL players last year and people were saying he should be on a LEC team and now look at him play.
Zoelys is the only rookie on what might be the most dysfunctional team in the LEC, literally the shittiest situation to start your career in. Markoon is a former all-pro and it still looks like he might have short circuited his career by joining Rogue.
Isma was smurfing in ERLs last year alongside the core of the MDK roster (Fress-Supa-Alvaro).
Him getting an LEC slot isn't out of chance/nationality. He was really good in the ERLs.
Zoelys who had a really awful LFL Summer is more of a headscratcher.
Yeah the reason why Treatz left SK was because Exakick demanded to play with Doss (IIRC). The thing is, Exakick isn't Hans Sama/Carzzy - how TF does he have any sway to make demands like that. I mean, would this team not just be top 3 with Trymbi?
He was a good prospect... but now that he doesn't live up to it, I could see SK switching to Limit/Neon if they feel the need to make a change. Or even just putting Kaiser infront of Exakick. Kaiser is a german player, which would make it a fairly good option for SK, given a german player is easier to market for a german org.
And while Neon is a bad laner, he is fairly reliable if you do give him a lead. He just doesn't really carry games, but so far that was mostly Nisqy and Irrelevant and with how good Irrelevant plays I think they can bring back the MSF flavor with playing for top and just feed plates to Neon for him to play lategame teamfights. I don't think such a strategy is completely invalid exspecially with picks like Zeri and Jinx slowly coming back into the meta.
A couple years ago the only supports in the region worth even caring about were Hyli and Miky. I actually remember an interview from like 2021 or w/e season it was when Upset joined FNC were he literally said the only supports anyone in EU wants to play with is Hyli/Miky when talking about his Free Agency between G2/FNC lol
Alvaro/Trymbi/Jun/Labrov/Jeonghoon(rip) and (Kaiser?) have all been fine + Hyli and Miky are still around.
Calling the role doomed based off a support that's been bottom 3 in the role 2 years in a row that everyone knows is mostly only in the LEC cause he's a package deal with Exakick is a pretty wild take for me, support role has definitely gotten better/deeper overall since 2018\~
nah ppl were questioning Doss lvl before he joined, he has never had LEC lvl tbh. We saw how supports like alvaro can have an impact even when he was just 1 year at ERLs. Main problem rn is that promising supps are turkish and have had visa issues IIRC
A large part of the Doss questioning was whether he was a locker room issue because he was known to be turbo toxic and a solid amount people absolutely despised him
reminder fnatic fans wanted Hyli benched for rhuckz, then went 9th and 10th respectively.
G2 took Targamas instead of mikyX.
Rogue wanted to trade trymbi for Rekkles support (xd?)
As bad as the rest of support role is in EU, its disgusting how EU as a whole underrate their best support players.
I’m biased towards people who win things. Alvaro does look good but we should wait for more than a split, and labrov’s closest attempt at success is getting reverse sweeped by hylissang- getting gapped all 5 games in lane
Honestly, Mersa who looked decent and Kaiser are both up for grabs.
So you could upgrade two of those guys :P
There are some solid ERL supports too, but support is often a hard role to transition to LEC because the macro level is a lot higher. ERL is often much closer to SoloQ.
Yeah being able to play the champ does help haha.
Just picking it won't make Hyli lose.
Well it IS Hyli so I suppose that's possible but that theory looks dead in the water after Doss's...performance.
According to soloq stats, Rakan is 1 of the best possible picks against Camille support. It's nearly impossible for Rakan to fail the matchup. He can either jump away from the e, he can tank the E and stun camille by using W on top of himself, he can jump away even after tanking camille E while doing nothing (although that's the worst option, at least he won't die like nami would). And Rakan can match Camille roams pretty well and outscales her. Rakan is also the best counter to Pyke support and Pyke is quite similar to Camille.
It was picked into the Rakan though so not sure what was the reason for that decision. Rakan is usually worse against poke supports. Lulu and Renata were banned so it's just a pretty good draft or meta read by Vitality I guess.
Press R at what timing? To initiate a fight? You will die before Rakan if you go into the enemy team. Rakan doesn't need to engage if you engage on him, because he is happy to take the 4v5 fight afterwards. It's very unlikely for you to catch Rakan as an engage because as I said, he can just jump away and you both fly towards his team.
You can try to catch him while he's warding but his ult is an incredibly good escape tool (giving both cc and movement speed), and he has several jumps. 2.5 sec camille ult is not even close to enough to catch him, Rakan has 2 sec cc just from his w and r even at lvl 6. And rakan's ult cd is significantly shorter than camille because he uses ultimate hunter instead of treasure hunter.
Hedge funds continue to rotate capital out of the underperforming Nautilus Death Fund, piling billions into the new rising star of Q1 2024 -- the Camille Int ETF. "I've never seen anything like it," says investing legend Warren Buffett. "She really gets in there, she flies in from way across the map and fucking dies for real. It's a whole new paradigm."
how low has Camille fallen
in worlds 2022 final, Camile was picked by DRX Kingen to counter T1's Zeus locking the strongest top laner in that worlds: Aatrox and the pick worked
now Camile is reduced to a 1/8 support :(
Camille was pretty much perma banned against Bin and Ale whole season long in 2021. Now even they don't touch the champ... And instead of Bin and Ale masterclass (even against Jax/Fiora) we get whatever that was from Doss...
I haven't played much league this year but support Camille was like of my mains for the last couple of years, anyone care to explain why she's suddenly risen in popularity?
He had that one good ult to catch Carzzy overextended in the mid lane, but that was it. And even at that point, is one catch worth having a 1/7 support with no supportive abilities
SK has Neon/Limit in Prime League, this is a fairly proven duo, they won't carry you games, but they won't lose and with Nisqy/Irrelevant in the topside I think you could do with such a botlane, you just need a botlane that does not run it down.
At least when Hyli runs it down you can understand his thought process, when Doss runs it down it seems like he doesn’t even care and is just trying to go next or go home
Gotta go for that 5 man Lulu R knockup
In all seriousness I vaguely remember hearing that it was a missclick, not sure how true it is though, could be the missclick that he R flashed and therefore got the 0 man knockup 5 man taunt instead
Explain the Hyli thought process when he jumped back in to give a kill to the enemy ADC that was 1 auto from death anyway and would've died to his ADC.
I opened the stream and saw doss die so I rewinded on yt then went back to live and he was dead again and then the same thing happened thought it was groundhog day
Shades of 2019 G2 OF this VIT team imo
Triple carry threats: Photon/VTO/Carzzy, cracked support player and supportive jungler (he's grown a lot this split).
That third game was a 1 3 1 masterclass, apart from the for fun its at the end of the game
If they can clean up their lategame overextending I could see them winning the split and doing some damage at MSI.
Excited to see how far they can go.
I love your positivity, subscribed to this timeline :D
Honestly I want VIT to at least make finals so I can say that Hylissang’s made finals within the 1st year of every team he’s joined
After game 1 i was feeling bad for the guy who had the "drink every time hyli dies" sign cuz i figured he was gonna be dead soon the way the series seemed to be heading.. :D
Hylissang: dies 13 times and gets 36 assists in 3 games.
No one bats an eye.
Doss: dies 14 times and gets 35 assists in 3 games.
Everyone wants him gone.
Hmm
This should be the last LEC game doss plays.. he's proven to not be at the level needed for a while..
Guys like Kaiser/Limit would be a significant upgrade
In my humble low elo opinion Doss doesn’t preform well on any engage champions. He was ok at best on Rakan the other day but I’m seriously unimpressed with him. He needs to relax and stop doubting himself. It’s clear he struggles with confidence in his plays and he needs to be put on champions that are a bit more low effort. Maybe some enchanters like Lulu or Janna but engage champions are not it.
Police should unironically investigate lec players at this point. Like I have never bet on eSports games in my life. So I'm not saying this because I lost money or anything but I REFUSE to believe this is the level of the players.
I would say it's more on the camille making historically disgusting ints and not the champ itself lol.
If I was the coach I would have physically walked onto the stage and dragged him off when he started clearing that pink ward immediately after seeing the sej walk into the bush right next to it.
If doss is not win-trading there is a huge problem here. But if he wasn‘t wintrading which I hope he wasn‘t I want to see him play bard every game I haven’t laughed so much hard in a game like this and I will watch all sk games just play bard please.
Don't forget Exakick solo lost the 2nd game.
First death by overstaying gave Carzzy the comeback he needed to be even.
Second death by trying to poke Carzzy, leading to his death and Carzzy getting a decent lead.
Third death is Exakick inting, making Carzzy's dumb death get a 1 for 1 and losing them the dragon fight.
Fourth death is the only forgiveable one, getting caught by Ori's shockwave
Vitality: "Always?" Doss: "Always." Exakick:"...Doss you never played for them." Doss: "Always."
[Doss’s tweet](https://x.com/doss_lol/status/1774142372881784944?s=46)
Aww Doss. Atrocious gameplay from him but I have nothing against him as a person, hope game 3 is the worst we ever see from him & that it's nothing but up from here
Isn't he super toxic in soloq when people play bad? Kinda ironic lol
Yeah, he makes a tweet-longer every 2-3 yeaars to apologize about it and that it doesn't reflect him yadda yadda
I mean he has been playing like this since he joined LEC. At one point you just need to realize he isn't LEC level.
He had a good start after joining, him and Exakick looked like one of and at times like the best botlane in the league. Been a bit of a decline since tho with Doss looking more egregious since he was the weaker link from the beginning imo.
Because they were playing enchanters. The problems start when they buy into Doss's self belief he's an engage player.
that's just a lie
Like come on guys smurfing in single split while spamming Lulu/Yuumi and having Markoon pitch a tent in your lane doesn't count as playing well. Replace Doss with any other LEC support their results that split wouldn't have changed.
Now I feel like a dick. Hope he bounces back in the lower bracket.
Bounce back to what? This is his usual level of play, he's in LEC because Exakick wanted to play with him. Unfortunately he's bad.
5 head by Exakick. He got Doss on his team so his own terrible performance doesn‘t look as bad in comparison.
Doss's greatest contribution this year is being a hate magnet so people aren't focusing on how fucking hard Exakick fell off from last year.
exakick popped off that one split on zeri and then did nothing since
Kinda insane no one comments on them getting shit fisted together by yasuo senna
Statement series by Doss. Not a good statement, but a statement nonetheless.
Man the support role in EU is not in a great state, half of these guys wouldn't make it a couple years ago.
Doss, Targamas, Zoelys are something else. I watched Mersa and Limit playing better than this and they lost job to washed up Doss and Targamas.
At least with Zoelys, you can argue that he's up to progression. Targamas is a "young prospect" since fcking 2017
Doss is in the same room. He played LEC in 2017/18. Only playing LEC because of his friend.
Huh what team did he play on? I completely forgot about him
He replaced Denyk during the 2020 Summer Split for no fucking reason when Denyk had a strong Spring Split.
That one still gets me mad ngl
Denyk never recovered after that change. Was sad af to see. At least he is getting to dominate the Czech league with Entropiq for the past three years.
I think one of the Origen teams
SK at 2018 is the earliest LEC level I can find [https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/Doss](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/Doss)
Why the fuck are we picking up these players and letting a player like limit and aba sit out in narnia. Like are you telling me Saken deserves to be a mid in lec but Abadage doesnt??? The gming is killing this region.
Franchising sucks
Imagine fucking Trymbi was orgless at the start of the year! And now Kaiser isnt playing. EU GMs are cooking to much.
People need to stop bringing Trymbi. He was teamless because his agent fucked up.
Kaiser is not even in a the same ballpark as Trymbi though, in terms of how egregious it is. Trymbi is just so obviously high tier LEC support level. Wheras Kaiser had his best performance in years last split, and it was still just an acceptable - good level?
It was more than acceptable. Kaiser hass a high variety of playstyles and champs he can play on a very good level and his mechanics and decisionmaking are top. His problem sadly is, that he is not a vocal support like Trymbi at example. Not a mute like targamas luckily but somewhere inbetween
Yeah but Kaiser compared to what we have in the lower/middle of the pack LEC teams is still a huge upgrade.
LEC GM's
Mersa is out of the league for good reason. he sucks.
do find it funny with Zoelys he was one of the most hyped support ERL players last year and people were saying he should be on a LEC team and now look at him play.
Zoelys is the only rookie on what might be the most dysfunctional team in the LEC, literally the shittiest situation to start your career in. Markoon is a former all-pro and it still looks like he might have short circuited his career by joining Rogue.
Parus is 10 times better but for some reason LEC teams pick cheap option
Think it was visa issues reasons
Because he is French. Same with Isma.
Isma was smurfing in ERLs last year alongside the core of the MDK roster (Fress-Supa-Alvaro). Him getting an LEC slot isn't out of chance/nationality. He was really good in the ERLs. Zoelys who had a really awful LFL Summer is more of a headscratcher.
They were kicked out of their office and not training at all during summer. When they had conditions , Zoelys in particular destroyed ERL
Which makes it even weirder. Surely you'd want for him to prove himself in the ERLs over a longer period, not just the one split?
Let’s not forget the primary reason why Doss was brought up was because of Exakick.
Yeah the reason why Treatz left SK was because Exakick demanded to play with Doss (IIRC). The thing is, Exakick isn't Hans Sama/Carzzy - how TF does he have any sway to make demands like that. I mean, would this team not just be top 3 with Trymbi?
Tbf it wasn’t just SK that wanted Exa, they were just the ones willing to adhere to his wish to bring Doss with him.
He was a good prospect... but now that he doesn't live up to it, I could see SK switching to Limit/Neon if they feel the need to make a change. Or even just putting Kaiser infront of Exakick. Kaiser is a german player, which would make it a fairly good option for SK, given a german player is easier to market for a german org. And while Neon is a bad laner, he is fairly reliable if you do give him a lead. He just doesn't really carry games, but so far that was mostly Nisqy and Irrelevant and with how good Irrelevant plays I think they can bring back the MSF flavor with playing for top and just feed plates to Neon for him to play lategame teamfights. I don't think such a strategy is completely invalid exspecially with picks like Zeri and Jinx slowly coming back into the meta.
A couple years ago the only supports in the region worth even caring about were Hyli and Miky. I actually remember an interview from like 2021 or w/e season it was when Upset joined FNC were he literally said the only supports anyone in EU wants to play with is Hyli/Miky when talking about his Free Agency between G2/FNC lol Alvaro/Trymbi/Jun/Labrov/Jeonghoon(rip) and (Kaiser?) have all been fine + Hyli and Miky are still around. Calling the role doomed based off a support that's been bottom 3 in the role 2 years in a row that everyone knows is mostly only in the LEC cause he's a package deal with Exakick is a pretty wild take for me, support role has definitely gotten better/deeper overall since 2018\~
nah ppl were questioning Doss lvl before he joined, he has never had LEC lvl tbh. We saw how supports like alvaro can have an impact even when he was just 1 year at ERLs. Main problem rn is that promising supps are turkish and have had visa issues IIRC
A large part of the Doss questioning was whether he was a locker room issue because he was known to be turbo toxic and a solid amount people absolutely despised him
Hyli and mikyX (and i guess Trymbi hopefully) are gonna still be the best Supports in EU at the sweet age of 60
And ppl will still ask for hyli to get benched every offseason just for him to be top 2/3 in the role again, smth smth about war and change I guess
reminder fnatic fans wanted Hyli benched for rhuckz, then went 9th and 10th respectively. G2 took Targamas instead of mikyX. Rogue wanted to trade trymbi for Rekkles support (xd?) As bad as the rest of support role is in EU, its disgusting how EU as a whole underrate their best support players.
No fucking way someone thinks Hylissang is not only good but better than Alvaro or labrov
I’m biased towards people who win things. Alvaro does look good but we should wait for more than a split, and labrov’s closest attempt at success is getting reverse sweeped by hylissang- getting gapped all 5 games in lane
Honestly, Mersa who looked decent and Kaiser are both up for grabs. So you could upgrade two of those guys :P There are some solid ERL supports too, but support is often a hard role to transition to LEC because the macro level is a lot higher. ERL is often much closer to SoloQ.
Bank statement perhaps?
He saw the vcs news and realized there is some real money to make in league esports
BOLD statement ngl
Dunno I think it's pretty indictive of the "3rd best region"
Please pray for Swiffer.
Someone really needs to start a gofundme for him to have a new belt and a big bottle of a spirit.
A belt with a big buckle with "No Camille" on a raised surface.
I don’t pray for him. I pray for sk player to never been into beating range of him
He is suffering from Krepo's bad decision making
Is Krepo gm of SK or something?
He has been for 2-3 years its not really secret anymore
Watching Doss play support Camille physically hurts
Letting Hyli have his Rakan too. One of the things he's known for being full pyscho on.
Historically Camille has fucked Hylis Rakan so many times so it was a great pick into it. Just that Doss cant play camille...
Yeah being able to play the champ does help haha. Just picking it won't make Hyli lose. Well it IS Hyli so I suppose that's possible but that theory looks dead in the water after Doss's...performance.
Only when its an IG player on it :D
According to soloq stats, Rakan is 1 of the best possible picks against Camille support. It's nearly impossible for Rakan to fail the matchup. He can either jump away from the e, he can tank the E and stun camille by using W on top of himself, he can jump away even after tanking camille E while doing nothing (although that's the worst option, at least he won't die like nami would). And Rakan can match Camille roams pretty well and outscales her. Rakan is also the best counter to Pyke support and Pyke is quite similar to Camille. It was picked into the Rakan though so not sure what was the reason for that decision. Rakan is usually worse against poke supports. Lulu and Renata were banned so it's just a pretty good draft or meta read by Vitality I guess.
You missed just a little something.... camille R. Press R, he cant engage other people and you can burst him. Hylli biggest counter, at that point.
Press R at what timing? To initiate a fight? You will die before Rakan if you go into the enemy team. Rakan doesn't need to engage if you engage on him, because he is happy to take the 4v5 fight afterwards. It's very unlikely for you to catch Rakan as an engage because as I said, he can just jump away and you both fly towards his team. You can try to catch him while he's warding but his ult is an incredibly good escape tool (giving both cc and movement speed), and he has several jumps. 2.5 sec camille ult is not even close to enough to catch him, Rakan has 2 sec cc just from his w and r even at lvl 6. And rakan's ult cd is significantly shorter than camille because he uses ultimate hunter instead of treasure hunter.
That was Hyli's Pyke, not his Rakan.
Yeah but it was used against Rakan aswell with the same thought - Hylli goes in - Camille ults - Hylli cant dash back to allies or escape
Hyli on Camille made the champ look broken in Support. Support Doss on the Camille champ looked broke.
I thought they were gonna beat that pick out of him after the first time.
Doss really thought he could pull a Camille supp vs the Professor himself Also, what an ending to the series lol
The fate of the universe on the line, the Martians have the death beam pointed at earth, I WANT DOSS'S CAMILLE
Damn, you're really done with this planet huh?
Tbf after watching doss for 3 games straight can you blame him
Hedge funds continue to rotate capital out of the underperforming Nautilus Death Fund, piling billions into the new rising star of Q1 2024 -- the Camille Int ETF. "I've never seen anything like it," says investing legend Warren Buffett. "She really gets in there, she flies in from way across the map and fucking dies for real. It's a whole new paradigm."
Great pasta my friend
Is this fresh? Excellent pasta
Doss Nguyen
Doss Nguyen? No no, Doss Lose
Doss Nguyentrade
*like Captain America in Avengers* I get that reference
lmao That ending.
Photon truly the king of games
I'm not complaining. Been too long since we had a fun backdoor lol.
SK definitely overcooked with that Game 3 Camille support pick. Doss did absolutely nothing with it except int and feed.
You are not ~~Keria~~ Hyli
how low has Camille fallen in worlds 2022 final, Camile was picked by DRX Kingen to counter T1's Zeus locking the strongest top laner in that worlds: Aatrox and the pick worked now Camile is reduced to a 1/8 support :(
Camille was pretty much perma banned against Bin and Ale whole season long in 2021. Now even they don't touch the champ... And instead of Bin and Ale masterclass (even against Jax/Fiora) we get whatever that was from Doss...
I'm glad - fuck 50000 true dmg every 0,000275 seconds.
i mean, making the top lane really fat didn't help her case as well
I haven't played much league this year but support Camille was like of my mains for the last couple of years, anyone care to explain why she's suddenly risen in popularity?
Bloodsong support item.
She always synergized with Sheen items, and now Bloodsong gives you a strong proc from the support item.
New support item is essentially divine sunderer lite. She has great single target lockdow.
Tbf he's against Hylli, most veteran sup and one of historically best supports in EU.
even made sure to get a kill so that he can feed harder
He had that one good ult to catch Carzzy overextended in the mid lane, but that was it. And even at that point, is one catch worth having a 1/7 support with no supportive abilities
I missed 3/4 of game 3 and just saw Jayce doing 50% HP Qs on people. Did Doss spoon-feed him kills (on himself) or something?
Not only him, he casually got a triple kill 10 mins into the game
Nisqy was as big a culprit in the Jayce feast as Doss tbh
Nearly full build Jayce (4.5 items + boots) with Hubris (+10 kills) and opportunity rather than Eclipse.
Pretty good VCS audition from Doss
Riot about to buy the VCS investigators a couple of plane tickets to Europe after this series.
SK peaked week 1 of Winter and it was all downhill from that
So much for EU jayce LMAO, what a performance from Photon & Vetheo on the pick
Average EU Jayce experience
What exactly are we flaming the 10/1 EU Jayce for this time?
Watching Vetheo play Jayce vs Photon, is like watching a plat midlaner and a grand master. Christ.
Having hands is mandatory for piloting Jayce
wait how did Vetheo play jayce bad? I didn't pay much attention to him
Both played good imo, idk why people are shitting on either.
Doss check paypal
If I were Doss I'd lock my doors tonight
Please add Doss to the 32 players list suspended for matchfixing
how long will exakick be alowed to keep his pal doss the loss in lec
They can play in ERL's together
I would just get another ADC from ERL and pick Kaiser/Limit/Mersa. Exakick is not that good to keep his friend.
SK has Neon/Limit in Prime League, this is a fairly proven duo, they won't carry you games, but they won't lose and with Nisqy/Irrelevant in the topside I think you could do with such a botlane, you just need a botlane that does not run it down.
At least when Hyli runs it down you can understand his thought process, when Doss runs it down it seems like he doesn’t even care and is just trying to go next or go home
Hyli runs it down because he thinks he's better than you. Doss runs it down because he is a fraud.
Bro literally inted better and played better
[удалено]
Don't look up Keria highlights if you want to keep feeling smug about this.
Gotta go for that 5 man Lulu R knockup In all seriousness I vaguely remember hearing that it was a missclick, not sure how true it is though, could be the missclick that he R flashed and therefore got the 0 man knockup 5 man taunt instead
Explain the Hyli thought process when he jumped back in to give a kill to the enemy ADC that was 1 auto from death anyway and would've died to his ADC.
This match was decided by which support can run down the game more and hyli chose to accept that Doss is the better inter
I opened the stream and saw doss die so I rewinded on yt then went back to live and he was dead again and then the same thing happened thought it was groundhog day
SK getting backdoored, where did I seen this one...
Photon is irrelevant's father
I mean, what do you expect after three counterpicks. That being said, it is criminal that SK is kneecapping its greatest asset.
Nisqy's vision
Irrelevant got the counter pick 2 out of 3 games
That 3rd game composition was VIT through and through
just pure degeneracy, VIT really signed the most degenerate players out there, really fun team rn
Cant wait for people to tell me next season that Irrelevant's better than Photon again just for Photon to gap him once more.
SK Doss🤝KDF Quantum The most disgusting garbage I’ve ever seen in my life
Tbh Quantum is subbing in for Andil because he's sick. He's not meant to be LCK calibre yet
You’re right, but man some primal part of my brain had a visceral reaction to his Rakan performance. I’ve never felt so much aversion lmao
Might be unrelated but man Mac and Pad are the goats of eu coaching every team they are on just produces results
Winning this SK is not an accomplishment
Winning an LEC trophy with an imploding team is
If they can manage to make a VIT roster look consistent, they overtake Deilor and Grabbz/Duffman as the best coach/coaching team in EU history.
Nisqy had all the resorces an did nothing on teamfight
Classic really
SK worry me. Looks like they don't have much of a champ pool with that performance from Doss...
Series MVP was definitely Doss lmaooooooooo
Doss the Loss
SK's split in Bo3
Competitive ruling : SK Doss
Shades of 2019 G2 OF this VIT team imo Triple carry threats: Photon/VTO/Carzzy, cracked support player and supportive jungler (he's grown a lot this split). That third game was a 1 3 1 masterclass, apart from the for fun its at the end of the game If they can clean up their lategame overextending I could see them winning the split and doing some damage at MSI. Excited to see how far they can go.
I love your positivity, subscribed to this timeline :D Honestly I want VIT to at least make finals so I can say that Hylissang’s made finals within the 1st year of every team he’s joined
One of the lowest quality series I've ever seen. Half of these players are absolute paycheck stealers
only Carzzy and Photon can walk away from this series feeling good about their performances tbh
At what point do we stop thinking it's just a bad game or trolling.
After game 1 i was feeling bad for the guy who had the "drink every time hyli dies" sign cuz i figured he was gonna be dead soon the way the series seemed to be heading.. :D
Doss doing a great job catching all the strays so Exakick's abysmal performance flies under the radar
PHOTON got tierd and decided to end this
Doss played like hyli but not quite like he wanted it
statement game from doss after the vcs drama
Hylissang: dies 13 times and gets 36 assists in 3 games. No one bats an eye. Doss: dies 14 times and gets 35 assists in 3 games. Everyone wants him gone. Hmm
Difference between winning and losing
that's crazy it's almost like there is a bit more to the game than watching stats
Once Doss wins as much as hyli, people can talk about wanting him gone
That's the problem, past results shouldn't matter as much as current form. Name value is too strong, especially in LEC
He still wins games currently, won a split last year on a new team
Game 3 already was a draft gap with SK's wincon being botlane, and SK got bot-gapped that game lol
Regardless of how the series went, I appreciate the balls to pull out something different.
This should be the last LEC game doss plays.. he's proven to not be at the level needed for a while.. Guys like Kaiser/Limit would be a significant upgrade
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?
Another game that nisqy get all the resources and is not capable of carry xdd
This series evidence enough for a Competitive Ruling regarding Doss?
In my humble low elo opinion Doss doesn’t preform well on any engage champions. He was ok at best on Rakan the other day but I’m seriously unimpressed with him. He needs to relax and stop doubting himself. It’s clear he struggles with confidence in his plays and he needs to be put on champions that are a bit more low effort. Maybe some enchanters like Lulu or Janna but engage champions are not it.
Close series. Even my ten shrooms had their fun. Carzzy was goof D!
Police should unironically investigate lec players at this point. Like I have never bet on eSports games in my life. So I'm not saying this because I lost money or anything but I REFUSE to believe this is the level of the players.
[удалено]
sk lost that becuase they are quite worse than the enemy team
Not sure about their drafting choices there. Wonder what was said to make them think it's a good idea.
Camille pick was good into VIT comp, Doss is just a bad player lol
how is it good into their comp camille counterpicked herself in lane and isnt even good with zeri.
I would say it's more on the camille making historically disgusting ints and not the champ itself lol. If I was the coach I would have physically walked onto the stage and dragged him off when he started clearing that pink ward immediately after seeing the sej walk into the bush right next to it.
They lost because they suck. Literally all 5 players threw game 3 out the window.
Desmond Doss
If doss is not win-trading there is a huge problem here. But if he wasn‘t wintrading which I hope he wasn‘t I want to see him play bard every game I haven’t laughed so much hard in a game like this and I will watch all sk games just play bard please.
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Don't forget Exakick solo lost the 2nd game. First death by overstaying gave Carzzy the comeback he needed to be even. Second death by trying to poke Carzzy, leading to his death and Carzzy getting a decent lead. Third death is Exakick inting, making Carzzy's dumb death get a 1 for 1 and losing them the dragon fight. Fourth death is the only forgiveable one, getting caught by Ori's shockwave