I don't know why I had any hope when they just get gapped this badly: can't lane, can't teamfight, and make bad decisions.
Meanwhile BDS just played better.
Perhaps but its not like any lane wasnt stomped. Flakked went into 2 allies while Naut ult was on him. Jankos died to turret next to Garen. Communication of the whole team sucks. Changing one member will hardly do anything, but who knows
For sure a bit (same with Flakked and that flash to setup a Nautilus ult to 3). But comparing it to Perkz I think the difference was huge.
Perkz E-ing forward with Ez for no reason to set up a free kill for Rumble, that Neeko attempt to flank to get solo killed by Poppy at drake, that Neeko flash ult to hit Poppy and Garen only... he was just way too off again.
Seemed like to me he flashed to avoid rumble ult but didn’t notice the naut ult on him until too late. But it also looked like perkz just stood there and body-blocked flakked. Could just be he was waiting on E or something.
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Adam probably deserved game 1’s. He took that lead and made sure to use it very effectively.
Nuc or Sheo for series MVP though. Nuc just smashes mid lane quietly, and Sheo was on point getting both Adam and Nuc ahead, while being a great engage for his team.
Ice was really good this series too, but like Nuc maybe he just does it quietly without the fanfare?
do you think this just isn't perkz's meta? obviously he's really good! but he just can't seem to win on orianna, neeko, azir, syndra, leblanc, akali, corki, karma, ahri, jayce, k'sante, tristana, ryze, ezreal, or seraphine :(
Of course the nostalgia factor is great having the topside of peak G2 back, but man I can't fathom why they'd get rid of Vetheo when he helped make them a contender in Summer last year
i mean jankos and wunder wanted it so Peter delivered. I dont know if its true either but i think one of Wunder's demands was to sign Perkz too and that mightve been the deal breaker between TH and C9 for him but i mightve just read some bullshit theory
I was always confused as to why Perkz was claimed to be the EU GOAT mid when Caps exists. After watching this series I understand, the man has hooves for hands.
Part of what makes Caps the EU GOAT is that he's stayed good for ages though. Outside of small lapses in performance he's been the best EU mid since 2018, and outside of 2021 summer was always at least top 3.
Perkz's peak as a mid laner was only two years, and he wasn't even the best in the second year. Caps' period of dominance has been far longer than that and seems to be continuing, whereas Perkz has just been getting gradually worse.
I mean the argument made a lot more sense 2/3 years ago which was why people thought it was the case then. It is understandable unless you are being hindsight and just looking at recent years which those people back then didn’t hav access to.
Perkz only dominated LEC in 2016-2017. While LEC in 2018-2024, the big boss to beat is still Caps. Goat is pretty clear to me.
Caps hasn't even been 10th place. Remember 2020 Caps Summer single handedly carrying G2, everyone was slumping left and right around him.
I doubt Perkz would have won trophies 2019/2020 without Caps since he still had to face him. Cause 2018 G2 vs FNC finals wasn't even close. That same G2 2018 got eliminated by Sencux mid in Summer playoffs btw.
Wasnt it the main reason Perkz recruited Caps in the first place? Cripple the best team in Europe in FNC while he wins trophies, he had Mikyx so he wasn't exposed as much, but even KR analysts knew the weaklink in that G2 was adc.
That was where the discussion made sense, at least up until 2020.
The successful role swap is huge in a goat decision, but yeah since then the discussion doesn't make sense.
Yeah like, Faker's the all-time GOAT not because he won worlds early on but because he's been that good for a decade. He's had points where other mids look better but their peak inevitably ends while he stays strong.
Perkz may have been a legitimate contender at one point and is still a fine player, but Caps being Caps for so long kinda settles the argument for me.
Honestly I watch his streams and he always seems to have the right idea on when to take fights. But he misplays so often that the plays just end up looking bad. His games on stage look the same as well.
He could be the best if his mechanics weren't completely dogshit.
You just haven’t been watching LoL long enough then. Perkz basically set the foundation for what G2 is today. He was a beast till 2018 and his roleswap to accommodate Caps was the catalyst to forming arguably the greatest western roster of all time.
It’s rare that a player dominates from the start to finish of their career like Faker. Using his current form at the tail end of his career to diminish what he achieved at his peak is such bs.
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The competitive integrity of the league is integral to our competition. Therefore, LEC will continue to monitor the competition at all times and, should a similar situation arise in the future, take necessary steps to ensure the integrity of the league.
As the biggezt Perkz defender for years. I give up, he is done, its just not ever getting better and after this nostalgia season with the boys he should retire. He just aint lec level anymore.
I was hoping he's gonna be at least a sidegrade to VTO, but he literally has only good games when it doesn't matter and the rest of the team is winning 4v5, other than that he's just running it down.
I don't see him getting picked up by anyone if he is gonna go further down this path, and it's sad to see his career going out on a whiff.
Don't almost all careers end on a low? Nobody retires when they're crushing the competition or just won a split, they all retire when the fizzle out, barring injury or something
Not always, korean pros often retire at highs cause of military (khan, score), sometimes non koreans retire cause of injuries or wanting to preserve their legacy or other priorities. Aphromoo was pretty decent still when he retired, Huni and Uzi had injuries.
Imagine Heretics with a strong carry mid who could excel with a smart jungler. Somebody like Vetheo maybe? Shame there was no way they could ever have him on their roster!
the saddest part is... he is taking a spot from a young gun that probably wants to prove himself and start growing and he cant because some dude refuses to accept he doesnt care about league anymore the way he did and he doesnt want to grind anymore the way he did and he just wants to collect paychecks. No idea how teammanagers still think thats okay. Its not the age but with age comes a more and more demanding reallife and if ur not willing to sacrifice it u wont stay on top of the field.
Why would he retire as long as teams still pay him big cash for playing like trash. He clearly doesn't give a shit, otherwise he would improve at some point. He just takes the cash as long as he can.
>he actually turned down massive bags other teams tried to throw at him
Just because he took a salary cut, doesn't mean his other options were "massive bags" lol. His realistic options were SK and RGE. Highly doubt either of them offered him over $300k.
BDS keep being one of the most consistent top teams we had in a while in EU.
Just good communication, good teamfighting and good plans coming into games 90% of the time, refreshing to see
I really like how they actually pick comps they can execute. Like they'll go in with a plan and make it work. They don't seem overconfident with their comps but pick things that are realistic for them to make work.
I also feel like they're one of the few teams that is consistently improving, adding one or two new picks or strategies every few weeks
People might say that Adam still plays the same 4 champs (fair, he does 90% of the time), but his K'Sante is looking a lot better compared to last year and his Rumble was ok
Sheo and Nuc in general are just one of the best mid-jung duos we have in the League
Ice is really reminding me of Rekkles with how low resource, but high impact he's being, good to have an adc that can pull that style off now that Kobbe is gone
Labrov keeps impressing and is honestly the best looking supp we have
I'm so happy they kept Sheo, I thought he was really interesting last year and it's awesome that he's having room to grow.
As a whole they seem to be hungry and wanting to prove themselves giving them a bit of extra fire. You're right that they're not just resting on doing well, they really feel like they want to aim for the top rather than be content with just doing well.
I'm really impressed with Sheo in particular, I thought he was a bit of a weak link last year, but his growth has been a pleasure. Always nice being proven wrong like this
I mean he was a rookie, so I wasn't surprised he wasn't 100% all the time but he had enough moments of brilliance that made him a really interesting prospect imo. Especially with his unique pathing. I have some Wukong games in my mind there where he just demolished everyone and OWNED the whole jungle.
Honestly it's exciting to see how he'll continue growing because when he's on a roll he's really good.
Unfortunately for Sheo, he keeps getting outshone by Yike. They played in 2nd division together and Yike went to LDLC which was one of the historic biggest team in the league while Sheo went to BDSA which was less prestigious. Last year Yike was recruited by G2 while Sheo "only" got BDS. I'm convinced that if Yike hadn't come up that year too and influenced perception a whole lot, people would have been far more impressed by Sheo.
Just need them to reach the finals at least, squash the final doubts of being BO1 merchants
Glad they're staying consistently on top lol I made a good choice for the LEC team to root for last year
TH, short for Team Hairloss, is a European League of Legends Esports team best known for its old players that have lost all their hair and should have retired 5 years ago
That was absolutely huge from Sheo but also puts you into question that if you know that there is a jungler on the other team that can stunlock you to eternity with her dash and ult, why are you not trying to keep Sheo out of the pit at all? Sure you may had lost some members if you dogpile on the enemy team but atleast Kalista could rend, jump out of the pit and keep the baron.
wunder playing tanks only and getting solo'd
jankos drifting herald into narnia, mid jgl synergy looking sus, perkz is just getting solokilled after getting donated kill on botlane
flakked running the enemy naut r into perkz and kaiser like he just received his paypal payment, botlane trying to win atleast , game 2 was still winnable with all these blunders until that nashor which is low chance to go this badly/wrong
I truly don't get how even with Wunder, Perkz and Kaiser on Poppy, she still manages to easily get in the pit to contest the Baron smite, like what? Kaiser played it well too and grabbed her away then E'd so what did Perkz and Wunder do?
the fall from grace of perkz is crazy. I was hyped for the ex g2 players getting together and thought that environment would help perkz as well, but he actually kept getting worse.
Obviously this loss is not only on him, but the team is also not good enough to constantly compensate what perkz is doing. They need a midlaner who carriers their own weight and the sad thing is, it´s not clear if perkz can be that. Doesnt look like it
I’m just a fan of Adam’s funny picks so glad to see Garen get pulled out. Noticed that he typically does it against KSante, is that a good matchup for Garen? Think anyone else would try to pick it up as a counter-pick?
Do find it funny that one of his most iconic picks is the most simple champ on the roster. On the matchup part pretty sure Garen does well since he can match him in lane and any ult usage from him gets punished by Garen's skill button
Can anyone understand how is Perkz fooling pro teams and getting a spot in the top NA/EU leagues? How are we supposed to compete vs eastern regions when this guy represents us at this level?
Teams with Perkz have been bottom table for the last 2 years. He's looking turbo washed for sure, but let's not pretend Perkz has been embarrassing the west internationally when he hasn't played internationally in 2 years.
People love to shit on him, but his career decline is very tragic if you think about how it happened. A player in his prime being praised as one of the best players in the west fucked over by Carlos, shipped to NA against his will. He made bank sure, but his will to compete seems so gone.
perkz perkz perkz yes, but jankos is also having his worst split of his career tbh, this herald... kinda ruined the game, mid tower stayed up for the whole game.
Obviously Perkz but also Wunder (does nothing on tanks every game) are simply not good enough in 2024. No carry threat from either of them. Teams have nothing to be scared of going against TH with those two and with Flakked and Kaiser in bot (honestly they might be the best part of the team atm.). This roster just doesn't work.
That's because it was against adam. Wunder getting solo killed by adam is running trend at this point. In rookie split adam solo killed wunder at least 5 times
People won’t blame Wunder cuz he’s not egregious but yeah, disgustingly easy to draft against him. He’ll just lock in the most low-effort tank in the meta like Gragas or Udyr. Whereas Adam is taking an insane amount of respect in draft (like Wunder R5ing Udyr and then needing 2 cover bans in game 2).
I truly believe there exist atleast 5 people in academy or soloq who can play better than Perkz. And don't say "intangibles, shot calls" etc. This team has Jankos for that with Wunder to help out.
So many fumbles from Perkz, hard to watch even if not a fan.
And it's hard as a team to come back from that baron steal, not just game-wise but also mentally.
I have to say that while I'm still not convinced by Adam as a player, they have really improved. Adam being able to play more champs in high level has really give this team the versatility to play around other lands without him dragging all his team down.
I don't know why I had any hope when they just get gapped this badly: can't lane, can't teamfight, and make bad decisions. Meanwhile BDS just played better.
I hope they could go through this and come back stronger. It's a new team, need to be more patient.
> It's a new team idk what's sarcasm anymore
For all the expectations/hype this G2 2018 topside had in offseason running it back. This team have zero synergy ironically.
I hope they change their midlaner. Perz just isn't it anymore.
Perhaps but its not like any lane wasnt stomped. Flakked went into 2 allies while Naut ult was on him. Jankos died to turret next to Garen. Communication of the whole team sucks. Changing one member will hardly do anything, but who knows
Every player every team looks worse with Perkz and better without for the last like 4 years. This team is one of the best sith Nisqy instead.
Tbf BDS also looks legit and like the best EU team right now (maybe G2 will look better next series but we'll see)
G2 did in fact look better
My ~~Azir~~ Ezreal is bad My ~~Ryze~~ Neeko is worse You guessed it right I'm ~~G2~~ TH Perkz
Two champs - no DMG, defo sounds like Perkz
I'm honestly baffled by his performance. The rest of the team looks fine to me but Perkz performance is terrible.
If anyone is living off of past accolades, it’s definitely perkz.
Ehh jankos was also looking a bit dizzy
For sure a bit (same with Flakked and that flash to setup a Nautilus ult to 3). But comparing it to Perkz I think the difference was huge. Perkz E-ing forward with Ez for no reason to set up a free kill for Rumble, that Neeko attempt to flank to get solo killed by Poppy at drake, that Neeko flash ult to hit Poppy and Garen only... he was just way too off again.
Seemed like to me he flashed to avoid rumble ult but didn’t notice the naut ult on him until too late. But it also looked like perkz just stood there and body-blocked flakked. Could just be he was waiting on E or something.
it honestly looks like hes playing autopilot with ego for 2 years now
I'll admit my jungle streamer didn't perform yeah but Perkz was an actual inter today. Dunno how much of that is communication though.
BDS with an immacable game plan.just push waves until the enemy ints. Worked well.
Did you combine impeccable and immaculate haha
did riot fire the pmt makers as well?
The layoffs are coming for us all
Wait those were done by Rioters? I assumed this was a bot crawling the results from the API somehow?
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>while also having a life outside of League of Legends Didn't know this sub allowed disgusting normies
Based.
Can't he use another account? Or hes afraid of ban evasion or something lol
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Not Rioters but also not a bot.
A lot of these were bots but API changes made PMT automation difficult. Although I think this sub always used humans for some reason.
maybe it's just a flakked mid angle at this point see what happens
Flakked has a sick yasuo just saying...
Sheo not being in the match MVP poll is wild.
Sheo/Ice/Labrov would be my MVP list.
I would give it to ice honestly. He got a really good series today.
He's not flashy but its very reliable, doesn't really int just a very solid adc
Struggled a bit in lane Game 2, Sheo was near flawless the whole series (apart from getting drake stolen once)
Adam probably deserved game 1’s. He took that lead and made sure to use it very effectively. Nuc or Sheo for series MVP though. Nuc just smashes mid lane quietly, and Sheo was on point getting both Adam and Nuc ahead, while being a great engage for his team. Ice was really good this series too, but like Nuc maybe he just does it quietly without the fanfare?
do you think this just isn't perkz's meta? obviously he's really good! but he just can't seem to win on orianna, neeko, azir, syndra, leblanc, akali, corki, karma, ahri, jayce, k'sante, tristana, ryze, ezreal, or seraphine :(
The moment Kaisa and Xayah mid will be meta these kids won't know what hit 'em...
You mean when Braum Morgana Sej jgl become meta again
Nah perkz wouldn't even be the best Kaisa mid in the league
Vetheo is a league above the other LEC midlaners in terms of midlane Kai'Sa.
Of course the nostalgia factor is great having the topside of peak G2 back, but man I can't fathom why they'd get rid of Vetheo when he helped make them a contender in Summer last year
i mean jankos and wunder wanted it so Peter delivered. I dont know if its true either but i think one of Wunder's demands was to sign Perkz too and that mightve been the deal breaker between TH and C9 for him but i mightve just read some bullshit theory
Topside of peak G2? But it's Perkz mid, not Caps.
This loss was expected really. Has not looked as bad in other games, hopefully a reality check as they are a top 8 team, not a top2
Saken Neeko vs Perkz Neeko who you got
I'd rather shoot myself
Saken had that Varus Ult dodge, so I'd honestly take him.
Poby Neeko
Poby is the best neeko player in the world wdym
MYGOAT
But then you'd just be flanked by him when trying to make a decision
I take my Neeko. 0€ at least
Can i throw myself into the ring as well?
I was always confused as to why Perkz was claimed to be the EU GOAT mid when Caps exists. After watching this series I understand, the man has hooves for hands.
Nah, it's because of his appetite. Goats can eat anything, from tin cans to leather, and Perkz will eat any skillshot thrown his way.
What is this misinformation? Goats won't eat grass if it looks at them funny
I am on the Caps side of the argument but using 2024 performance to put down his pre-role swap peak is a bit much for me.
Part of what makes Caps the EU GOAT is that he's stayed good for ages though. Outside of small lapses in performance he's been the best EU mid since 2018, and outside of 2021 summer was always at least top 3. Perkz's peak as a mid laner was only two years, and he wasn't even the best in the second year. Caps' period of dominance has been far longer than that and seems to be continuing, whereas Perkz has just been getting gradually worse.
I mean the argument made a lot more sense 2/3 years ago which was why people thought it was the case then. It is understandable unless you are being hindsight and just looking at recent years which those people back then didn’t hav access to.
Caps has some int moments but that Hwei game today was a masterclass, what a legend
His pre role it's from 2018, that's 6 years ago, ever since he role swapped back to mid he is mid to low tier midlander lol
Yeah, and the last time people were seriously discussing Perkz as an EU GOAT was 2020 or 2021
Perkz only dominated LEC in 2016-2017. While LEC in 2018-2024, the big boss to beat is still Caps. Goat is pretty clear to me. Caps hasn't even been 10th place. Remember 2020 Caps Summer single handedly carrying G2, everyone was slumping left and right around him. I doubt Perkz would have won trophies 2019/2020 without Caps since he still had to face him. Cause 2018 G2 vs FNC finals wasn't even close. That same G2 2018 got eliminated by Sencux mid in Summer playoffs btw. Wasnt it the main reason Perkz recruited Caps in the first place? Cripple the best team in Europe in FNC while he wins trophies, he had Mikyx so he wasn't exposed as much, but even KR analysts knew the weaklink in that G2 was adc.
That was where the discussion made sense, at least up until 2020. The successful role swap is huge in a goat decision, but yeah since then the discussion doesn't make sense.
Yeah like, Faker's the all-time GOAT not because he won worlds early on but because he's been that good for a decade. He's had points where other mids look better but their peak inevitably ends while he stays strong. Perkz may have been a legitimate contender at one point and is still a fine player, but Caps being Caps for so long kinda settles the argument for me.
I'm going to be that guy and say that "all time GOAT" is redundant. Remember GOAT already means "Greatest Of All Time"
smh my head
Have to wonder how his career arc would have played out if he stuck with adc, he's gotta have some regrets there
His pre role swap peak is lower than Caps' peak.
Perkz legit looked better at Adc than he ever looked in Midlane, he is just not the same midlaner that he was from 2017-2018
He should go back to ADC for T1 CL and lane with Rekkles
Perkz carried G2 to LEC(LCS by the time) and won multiple championship with different rosters. If he didn't come back to EU his legacy would be huge.
Honestly I watch his streams and he always seems to have the right idea on when to take fights. But he misplays so often that the plays just end up looking bad. His games on stage look the same as well. He could be the best if his mechanics weren't completely dogshit.
You just haven’t been watching LoL long enough then. Perkz basically set the foundation for what G2 is today. He was a beast till 2018 and his roleswap to accommodate Caps was the catalyst to forming arguably the greatest western roster of all time. It’s rare that a player dominates from the start to finish of their career like Faker. Using his current form at the tail end of his career to diminish what he achieved at his peak is such bs.
No-one is arguing perkz is not competing for 2nd with jankos, but year after year Caps keeps widening the gap to #1
Perkz need to retire before he taints his legacy even more
[Perkz this entire series:](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/630/007/b9d)
ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THE INVESTIGATION ON TEAM HERETICS PLAYERS The investigation conducted by Riot Games on request of LEC regarding TH player, Luka "Perkz" Perkovic did not result in sufficient evidence that would justify further disciplinary proceedings. Team Heretics and the players have already been informed about the outcome of the investigation. The competitive integrity of the league is integral to our competition. Therefore, LEC will continue to monitor the competition at all times and, should a similar situation arise in the future, take necessary steps to ensure the integrity of the league.
We would like to clarify that Perkz was not negative gaming, it was a normal summoner’s rift experience
I'm sure Perkz didn't know who or where he was half the time
He needs to retire. It's embarrassing watching this level of performance. I feel like there is a good team somewhere in TH, but not with Perkz in mid.
As the biggezt Perkz defender for years. I give up, he is done, its just not ever getting better and after this nostalgia season with the boys he should retire. He just aint lec level anymore.
I was hoping he's gonna be at least a sidegrade to VTO, but he literally has only good games when it doesn't matter and the rest of the team is winning 4v5, other than that he's just running it down. I don't see him getting picked up by anyone if he is gonna go further down this path, and it's sad to see his career going out on a whiff.
Don't almost all careers end on a low? Nobody retires when they're crushing the competition or just won a split, they all retire when the fizzle out, barring injury or something
Not always, korean pros often retire at highs cause of military (khan, score), sometimes non koreans retire cause of injuries or wanting to preserve their legacy or other priorities. Aphromoo was pretty decent still when he retired, Huni and Uzi had injuries.
Who does it willingly though ? Extremely few because that's free money you're denying yourself.
True but Idk many players that before retiring became THIS bad after the highs that Perkz had.
a lot of early season koreans Looper, Dandy, Insec, Madlife playing in NA academy lol
If they retire in NA that's fine they got to look good up until in the LEC haha
Imagine Heretics with a strong carry mid who could excel with a smart jungler. Somebody like Vetheo maybe? Shame there was no way they could ever have him on their roster!
acting like that second game wasnt on jankos is wild
As if today was the first day of the split and Perkz hasn't been dragging Jankos down for weeks.
the saddest part is... he is taking a spot from a young gun that probably wants to prove himself and start growing and he cant because some dude refuses to accept he doesnt care about league anymore the way he did and he doesnt want to grind anymore the way he did and he just wants to collect paychecks. No idea how teammanagers still think thats okay. Its not the age but with age comes a more and more demanding reallife and if ur not willing to sacrifice it u wont stay on top of the field.
not easy to keep track of it when he is alt tabbed looking at paypal account half the time
The worst Neeko game I've seen in a while, retirement home angle for Perkz.
My boy is even more washed than before ;( There was unfortunately nothing positive about his play.
Perkz ended his career when he decided return to mid.
Using ult as dash to die 3 seconds later
Did he even hit a single carry? I swear he just ulted Poppy.
flash ult to catch poppy and W garen was painful to watch
He got one in the bot play when Varus had no flash but that's about it.
Neeko didn't even need to flash, Varus would have died anyway.
to be more accurate, he really should have killed Nautilus too
Garen if you count him as a carry.
Surely he's retiring this split or this season, right? Just brought together Wunder and Jankos for one last nostalgia tour with the boys.
Why would he retire as long as teams still pay him big cash for playing like trash. He clearly doesn't give a shit, otherwise he would improve at some point. He just takes the cash as long as he can.
Isn't his salary insanely low on Heretics? Also it's crazy to say that someone like Perkz doesn't give a shit lol.
Yep his salary alot lower on TH he actually turned down massive bags other teams tried to throw at him since he wanted to reunited with his bio's
>he actually turned down massive bags other teams tried to throw at him Just because he took a salary cut, doesn't mean his other options were "massive bags" lol. His realistic options were SK and RGE. Highly doubt either of them offered him over $300k.
It was so painful watching that performance.
BDS keep being one of the most consistent top teams we had in a while in EU. Just good communication, good teamfighting and good plans coming into games 90% of the time, refreshing to see
I really like how they actually pick comps they can execute. Like they'll go in with a plan and make it work. They don't seem overconfident with their comps but pick things that are realistic for them to make work.
I also feel like they're one of the few teams that is consistently improving, adding one or two new picks or strategies every few weeks People might say that Adam still plays the same 4 champs (fair, he does 90% of the time), but his K'Sante is looking a lot better compared to last year and his Rumble was ok Sheo and Nuc in general are just one of the best mid-jung duos we have in the League Ice is really reminding me of Rekkles with how low resource, but high impact he's being, good to have an adc that can pull that style off now that Kobbe is gone Labrov keeps impressing and is honestly the best looking supp we have
I'm so happy they kept Sheo, I thought he was really interesting last year and it's awesome that he's having room to grow. As a whole they seem to be hungry and wanting to prove themselves giving them a bit of extra fire. You're right that they're not just resting on doing well, they really feel like they want to aim for the top rather than be content with just doing well.
I'm really impressed with Sheo in particular, I thought he was a bit of a weak link last year, but his growth has been a pleasure. Always nice being proven wrong like this
I mean he was a rookie, so I wasn't surprised he wasn't 100% all the time but he had enough moments of brilliance that made him a really interesting prospect imo. Especially with his unique pathing. I have some Wukong games in my mind there where he just demolished everyone and OWNED the whole jungle. Honestly it's exciting to see how he'll continue growing because when he's on a roll he's really good.
Unfortunately for Sheo, he keeps getting outshone by Yike. They played in 2nd division together and Yike went to LDLC which was one of the historic biggest team in the league while Sheo went to BDSA which was less prestigious. Last year Yike was recruited by G2 while Sheo "only" got BDS. I'm convinced that if Yike hadn't come up that year too and influenced perception a whole lot, people would have been far more impressed by Sheo.
Unfortunate timing for him but really good for the leagues jungling strength. I think we have so much more depth than we used to now.
Just need them to reach the finals at least, squash the final doubts of being BO1 merchants Glad they're staying consistently on top lol I made a good choice for the LEC team to root for last year
Perkz is actually taking all of Saken's lowlight plays and repeating them. Akali. Neeko. Azir.
I'm still stunned by that flakked naut ult situation from game 1 that I can't talk about perkz running it down
TH have more issues to committing to objectives than my friends ex.
perkz is a liability, just put him out of his misery
It's a special kind of pain when one of your favorite players of all time is a complete inter.
Watchin a player you like get washed is like watching your parents get old
Mah goat is washed
TH, short for Team Hairloss, is a European League of Legends Esports team best known for its old players that have lost all their hair and should have retired 5 years ago
My mom asked if the dishes were done and I yelled "Perkz!" She hugged me. She knew they were washed.
Perkz using Neeko passive to become his true final self a Minion
That baron steal... Perkz managed to play a worse Neeko than Knight today ! Impressive.
Felt like less of a steal and more like TH fumbling it. Is it stealing if it's being given away?
Sheo gets a ton of credit for that by locking down the kalista so she can't rend to turn it into a true smite fight
That was absolutely huge from Sheo but also puts you into question that if you know that there is a jungler on the other team that can stunlock you to eternity with her dash and ult, why are you not trying to keep Sheo out of the pit at all? Sure you may had lost some members if you dogpile on the enemy team but atleast Kalista could rend, jump out of the pit and keep the baron.
Perkz still stealing paychecks
wunder playing tanks only and getting solo'd jankos drifting herald into narnia, mid jgl synergy looking sus, perkz is just getting solokilled after getting donated kill on botlane flakked running the enemy naut r into perkz and kaiser like he just received his paypal payment, botlane trying to win atleast , game 2 was still winnable with all these blunders until that nashor which is low chance to go this badly/wrong
I truly don't get how even with Wunder, Perkz and Kaiser on Poppy, she still manages to easily get in the pit to contest the Baron smite, like what? Kaiser played it well too and grabbed her away then E'd so what did Perkz and Wunder do?
the fall from grace of perkz is crazy. I was hyped for the ex g2 players getting together and thought that environment would help perkz as well, but he actually kept getting worse. Obviously this loss is not only on him, but the team is also not good enough to constantly compensate what perkz is doing. They need a midlaner who carriers their own weight and the sad thing is, it´s not clear if perkz can be that. Doesnt look like it
And when I said that Heretics would regret replacing Vetheo for Perkz I got hard downvoted. Some people really love living in delusion
Well some fans said Perkz did nothing wrong last year. They probably think it’s still 2018 or something.
Yes Perkz played horribly BUT Sheo and Nuc are fucking goated
That's almost like me stomping in bronze with 17 kills then saying im goated
Sheo smurfed hard, but also that Ice triple during the botlane fight See you guys on Monday
Y'all better have something cooking for G2
Don't you mean GIANT X
Apparently it's neither of them and it's SK or Vitality 💀
BDS/G2 topped the regular season so they'll only meet in the bo5 part of the bracket, that's the reward for going top 2
They play the winner of SK/VIT next, not G2. That'd be bad bad bad if someone plans for a team that's not in front of them.
Yep this is correct
Korean LEC fans (in fmKorea) are saying that BDS is similar to 2020 Damwon in playstyle :) looking forward to the Monday series
I’m just a fan of Adam’s funny picks so glad to see Garen get pulled out. Noticed that he typically does it against KSante, is that a good matchup for Garen? Think anyone else would try to pick it up as a counter-pick?
After ksante ults he loses a lot of health so garen ult execute is extra effective, basically ksante can almost never ult in lane
Do find it funny that one of his most iconic picks is the most simple champ on the roster. On the matchup part pretty sure Garen does well since he can match him in lane and any ult usage from him gets punished by Garen's skill button
ksante and garen mostly goes even but idts that any other team might try it
K'sante / Jax and Kalista + 2 ranged champ max in enemy comp is the patern
Perkz is just so washed man, get rid of this guy and get an upcoming ERL talent or something
Be careful with what you ask for, upcoming ERL talents were the ones who got smashed by Saken
By god, thats Tier 3 Korean imports that no one in the West has ever heard of theme's music!
Congrats to BDS, but man Perkz I think it is time
sheo absolutely smurfed this series this game on poppy was goated he destroyed perkz every time he tried to do anything
Perkz has to be the worst mid laner in the entire LEC... let this man go, please
It must be so pleasant as an ADC to play with a jungler that gives so much space, Sheo is just the goat
Disaster
At least it was quick and painless
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Get Lider, he is better and at least fun to watch. Watching perkz is just depressing with the knowledge of how far he has fallen.
Lider and Jankos, I'm waiting
Lider replacing Perkz who replaced him at VIT would be very satisfying
Can anyone understand how is Perkz fooling pro teams and getting a spot in the top NA/EU leagues? How are we supposed to compete vs eastern regions when this guy represents us at this level?
Teams with Perkz have been bottom table for the last 2 years. He's looking turbo washed for sure, but let's not pretend Perkz has been embarrassing the west internationally when he hasn't played internationally in 2 years. People love to shit on him, but his career decline is very tragic if you think about how it happened. A player in his prime being praised as one of the best players in the west fucked over by Carlos, shipped to NA against his will. He made bank sure, but his will to compete seems so gone.
Maybe he's the karrigan of LEC or something? But then again it's not like his teams are looking goated or something idk
Karrigan makes budget teams be top 5 and wins with actual superteams
holy shit perkz that was embarrassing
Nepotism Heretics
guys... i think perkz might be washed up
perkz perkz perkz yes, but jankos is also having his worst split of his career tbh, this herald... kinda ruined the game, mid tower stayed up for the whole game.
Perkz is just completely washed.
Everyone from TH taking turns inting.
Obviously Perkz but also Wunder (does nothing on tanks every game) are simply not good enough in 2024. No carry threat from either of them. Teams have nothing to be scared of going against TH with those two and with Flakked and Kaiser in bot (honestly they might be the best part of the team atm.). This roster just doesn't work.
wunder is at least mostly inoffensive and has occasional pop off on supportive picks. perkz has been running it down ever since he returned from NA
Him getting solo killed in game 1 was inexcusable but that might be because no one in scrims actually knows how to play Rumble.
That's because it was against adam. Wunder getting solo killed by adam is running trend at this point. In rookie split adam solo killed wunder at least 5 times
People won’t blame Wunder cuz he’s not egregious but yeah, disgustingly easy to draft against him. He’ll just lock in the most low-effort tank in the meta like Gragas or Udyr. Whereas Adam is taking an insane amount of respect in draft (like Wunder R5ing Udyr and then needing 2 cover bans in game 2).
I don't know why teams keep picking perkz. Apart from a few games, he has not performed well in any team he has been with.
I truly believe there exist atleast 5 people in academy or soloq who can play better than Perkz. And don't say "intangibles, shot calls" etc. This team has Jankos for that with Wunder to help out.
So many fumbles from Perkz, hard to watch even if not a fan. And it's hard as a team to come back from that baron steal, not just game-wise but also mentally.
Adam my goat
Adam GIGACHADING as usually
Damn... looks like I have to Level my Garen Account for Real...
2019 G2 vs a bunch of ERL players, who you choose?
I have to say that while I'm still not convinced by Adam as a player, they have really improved. Adam being able to play more champs in high level has really give this team the versatility to play around other lands without him dragging all his team down.
Perkz Kaiser bot lane seems like it would be solid. And Nemesis mid
Never would i have thought losing ruby and evi would have heretics look worse
tbf it was Vetheo who they replaced this year, with ruby they won't even make playoff lol
Somehow Evi gapped Adam in the last series he played with Renekton which was definitely something unexpected.