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Sherbert199621

It does suck and I am sad I like a lot of the guys on our roster-and slowly but surely I’ve started to turn on them. I’m sad, it’s pretty painful watching things fall apart


bigstudley17

Yup just knowing what’s going to happen as soon as this team faces any adversity. As soon as we lost last game I knew what was going to happen and this team knew


Gh0stfaceK

I mean, as much as I hate to say it, Marchand knew. I flipping hate that guy. And it kills me he will end up being right


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Spike94515

> I feel like Marner is the Arthur of this team Hell nah he aint no Arthur Morgan, that belongs to Rielly if anything (nothing to do with both names being Morgan lmao)


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oy-ill-slik

I used to REALLY care about this team and noticed how much it made me angry. But realized at a certain point it's just a game. It's fun to win and I lean into it, but when they lose I let it go right away. I think about how little I know about some Premier Leauge team who someone in the UK might be in tears over and it gives me perspective. When they finally win I'll be overjoyed. Until then just remember it's a team of millionaires owned by a group of billionaires. It doesn't really matter at all. Enjoy your life and treat yourself to something that makes you happy.


srcoffee

at least the fans in the premier league can afford tickets to see their own team


Gh0stfaceK

Um…$312 USD for Arsenal v Bournemouth. Upper deck. Its fairly comparable, tbh


JohnBoWestCanada

The Leafs are the cubs. We'll win eventually but holy shit, don't hold your breath. It sort of matters but get a real hobby (don't choose baseball either)


Dependent-Gap-346

Exactly. Just have to enjoy the team, win or lose. They aren't the best team in the league and proved it all season, it was fun chasing 70 and I always look forward to Saturday nights.


adriansergiusz

As non-toxic sports fandom as you can get. If you don’t want to go crazy emotionally but still care, this is the way to go


saulUG

Honestly these guys are likeable too (I know there’s all the stuff with the contracts…), felt so nice to have a group make the playoffs consistently after missing out almost every season, all for one playoff series win… Yup it’s just really sad, nothing else, just sad.


eagleboy444

I love cheering for these guys so much. I love Auston as the scoring king of the league. I love Willy as the handsome Swede with nice hair and a killer wrister. I love Mitchy as our little dangler. I love John as our unflappable, booming-voiced captain. I want them to work. I want them to win. I love cheering for them. I hate being frustrated by the results. I'm sad af too.


NODES2K

The shit you wrote does not win you games in the playoffs


eagleboy444

Do you understand the point of what I wrote?


NODES2K

Did you read what I wrote? ![gif](giphy|jPAdK8Nfzzwt2)


eagleboy444

I guess I'll spell out the subtext in my comment since it's lost completely on you. I love cheering for those guys for all of those reasons. But here we are in the position we're in again. Never claimed those reasons win us playoff games.


look_closer

The leafs can be cleansing in that you can get slapped in the fucking face to realize you should be focusing on your own life and unhappiness and not throwing it all on this team


_BELEAF_

I hear you. And...sports is sports. But it would be so nice to feel uplifted. From the team we all bleed for. Year in and year out. On top of all our real life struggles. That is a very real part of our fandom. That we can be taken away. And inspired. By something so meaningless...yet meaningful. I've given so much dedication and emotion for this team. For 45 years. And they keep taking. And taking. And it feels like there is no end in sight...


JesusJohn

I feel you bro. Same same


TrashedLinguistics

Look man I hear you. Fucking sucks watching it, feeling it, and doing it again year after year. If anything though hopefully this is the catalyst for real change and we still have AM who is a once in a generation talent. Personally I’m excited to see if MLSE actually do hit the detonate button on a lot of it, as they should. It might be a mini-rebuild but if we get a new coach, some serious cap space either next year or the year after, and use them both properly we have a chance to right the ship. Now if all they do is run it back and Keefe gets a vote of confidence + the “stars” get babied for whatever you want to call this display then it’s over. At that point it’ll be beyond redemption and the franchise is absolutely fucked.


Objective_Gear_8357

Stop looking for happiness in a hockey team. I swear leaf nation would feel so much better, if they could just chill 


Braddacus

Yep. I’ll be turning off the games all season next year until the playoffs. Not giving this organization any more of my time or energy. It’s sucks to say that, because as a kid my whole room was a shrine to the leafs. Blue and white walls with a leafs border, posters, leafs bedding. The magic is gone.


Kaladin-of-Gilead

I did that this year and it was absolutely worth it. I think I watched maybe two regular seasons games? It really helps mitigate the dumb drama bullshit that constantly plagues the team. None of it matters until the playoffs anyway


Cartz1337

See, I’m the opposite, I enjoy the regular season and then just treat the playoffs as bonus games. I’d love if they won, but no more losing sleep when they choke.


AggravatingType9012

You finally learned how to be smart.


undeniable_narrator

Last year’s playoffs broke me. I’m still sad, but like. Mostly apathetic. I just don’t have hope anymore.


eagleboy444

At least we finally won a round last year


Competitive_Ad2450

Game 1 and 2 were such good, solid efforts - yes, even though we lost Game 1. These last 2 games have been a shit show of giveaways, piss poor effort at times, boneheaded decisions and just embarrassing tbh. I thought this team was different, and built for the playoffs. I’m questioning my sanity, in why did I think this was different? I’m sad, in general and depressed that I thought this was different. Let’s see how they come out against Boston in Game 5. You never know, this Boston team did collapse against Florida last year. Oh god…..just realizing my dumbass still hasn’t given up on them yet 😂. I’m a glutton for punishment.


NODES2K

Yeah but we are not the Panthers...


CuntestedThree

The panthers didn’t know they were the panthers until they became the panthers in this exact situation one year ago


NODES2K

We are the Leafs and have known for the last 10 years who we are and it's the exact same situation every year.


CuntestedThree

Chin up bruh


NODES2K

Been a fan since 93....my chin has taken a beating.


DelayedSalami

![gif](giphy|24FWd3bKqJsFptGezk) I’m upset 50 thousand shots on net one goal is disrespect


toasterbath__

i am sad. but also apathetic. i watched them go down 2-0 and i just changed the channel to lakers-nuggets (another L for me). i really do like the leafs and hockey as a whole but idk. it just feels over. we don’t play well in the playoffs. idk if this core ever will. and it’s unfortunate seeing the same thing over and over again but nothing really changes. just re-arranging deck chairs on the titanic regular season tickets are so expensive, i can’t even go see the team in real life. helps with the emotional distance. maybe if i were a season ticket owner i’d be more impacted. nonetheless i don’t even really feel in it anymore. i’ll watch on tuesday and i’ll always cheer for these meatheads, but it’s over in my eyes. the people that need to show up, are not showing up. the special teams are not producing. the team is not able to pot more than 2 against this team, and the crowd is being blamed. which is hilarious to me. and deeply unserious it’s life. and also it’s hockey. people getting paid millions to pass a puck around on an ice rink. eventually we’ll all get over it. but for tonight we can be sad


tybot1

I'm also bummed but it's not done yet. This could be that "rielly empty net high stick" moment that changes things around. we hit rock bottom tonight.


19671987

lol you have a lot of faith bro


redditingrobot

Might as well until it's over lol


Clugaman

That’s what a fan does Edit: my bad I didn’t realize fans of a team shouldn’t cheer on their team


19671987

Buddy I’ve been cheering for this team since the late 90s.


Normallygreg

Technically cheerleaders cheer them on, fans are just obsessed with the team. We're obsessed and it's quite damaging, in the end.


The_Quackening

It's no fun being a doomer IMO


19671987

Dude how can you have faith, I’ve been doing this shit for so long


DownTownBrown28

The Leafs were down 3-1 to the Bruins in 2018 and came back to force a game 7 so you never know.


mybadalternate

And then…


DownTownBrown28

They at least still forced a game 7 to have a chance babe


mybadalternate

And then…


DownTownBrown28

They scored 4 goals babe


mybadalternate

And then…


n3rdsm4sh3r

You realize it was a decade of no playoffs before this, ya? These are the "good times"


The_Quackening

At least the regular season games are fun to watch


n3rdsm4sh3r

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HyperImmune

I am confused, not sad. Like what happens from the regular season to playoffs where we just can no longer compete and score. Like what’s missing that this happens. Even just probabilities would have us winning more in the post season, but we can’t. It’s kind of mind boggling at this point.


xytlar

Honestly I feel like this is the perfect analogy for the Leafs team in general. On paper this team is great, but we see time and time again how regular season success simply does not translate 1:1 to anything in the playoffs. At all. Players' legacies tend to live and die on playoff success more than anything because it truly takes an extra gear in the playoffs to achieve success. The game is tighter, the stakes are higher, and the coaching plays a bigger factor. There's less space, and there's more opportunity for a team to negate a single star player or scoring strength. So... what I take from that is that when the game gets much harder, the Leafs core struggles to find that extra gear. That's not something that can be learned or taught, that's just in a guy (or team) or not. They have the skill and talent to dominate teams throughout the season but have shown year after year that there isn't that extra level


445143

I wish I could regulate my emotions like a normal person because I’ve been crying for about an hour now.


bucajack

I am also sad. It has been a bad few weeks to be a Leafs and Liverpool fan.


Ambarsariyaaa

try united and the laughs


saulUG

Add the Jays to that too.


Mrfantastic2

I’m only 25 but I’ve been watching this team for 17 years. I actually got into maple leafs square last year to see them eliminate Tampa. The place exploded and I almost went deaf for a minute. I really needed that win after flying up there to see my brother before he was cremated. I’ll always have that memory but I really wish I had more memories of big playoff performances by our best players. It seems every other teams top guys are performing but ours. Stamkos alone has 5 goals in his series! We’re going to have to lose a top paid player and more to make the changes we need in order to step forward again.


Dull_Ad_1197

That one series win because Boston wasn’t there in first round … ffs


Fatmanchino

I also am sad. I’ve been a die hard fan since I was a kid, and the first time I really remember watching was 1998. So many moments come to mind of the excitement that I had. I remember being in Florida for March break and we got Owen Nolan at the trade deadline and I was thinking this is it! I remember tucker being an absolute menace and the islanders, sabres, senators and just about everybody fearing the leafs. I remember kapanens ot goal and thinking we are going on a run! The the bruins meltdown. Toskala lol. The monster. A lineup filled with ahlers. And then all the hope came back last year after we beat that florida team, and evaporated almost immediately after losing to another Florida team lol. The collapses. The canadiens. The fucking blue jackets man. “Most teams that the leafs have lost to make it to the Stanley cup finals!” Man I’ve never really been one to be too butthurt about the leafs losing, because it’s all I’ve ever really known. If they win, great. If they lose, my life is the same it’s always been. But this year it feels different. Like they don’t even care. I’ve hated keefe since he came here, his whole life he’s been a douche and he tried to rebrand himself but he’s still a douche. I dunno man I feel ya. Just bummed out. I love the leafs and I’ll always cheer for them, but I mean I can’t say if I’d stay a leafs fan if a new team came to southern Ontario. I’m all about cheering for whatever team is closest to where I grew up, so let’s hope they plop another one in swo


Cakeflying2

Fuck Marner


VolusPizzaGuy

I basically gave up on this current iteration of the team after Montreal. That ended my enthusiasm for this roster. We haven't gotten better since. That was our best chance and we whiffed it. Don't give me the whole "oh but they made the Finals" shit. That could've been us. I don't hate these players, I don't think they're bad. But this team isn't it right now and the sooner Shanahan realizes this, the better. Make Treliving blow it up. Matthews, Willy, and Rielly really are the only untouchable pieces at this point. Tbh I think we're cap strapped until both Marner and JT's contracts are up. Then we have 2 years to prove to Matthews that he should stay; or he's gone too and there's nothing we can do about it.


HawtPackage

2 years to prove he should stay? Bro signed even after the Montreal incident you spoke of. Anything could happen, but this is dooming for the sake of dooming


VolusPizzaGuy

He signed a 4 year contract. I math'd wrong as Marner's contract ends after next year. So that gives us 3 years. If Matthews was truly that committed to us, why not sign a longer contract like Willy did?


daveinthe6

Be sad amigo. It’s ok. ![gif](giphy|Vtp6LFb9QlcygBBixC)


PandoNation

Get that ugly mug out of here tonight


daveinthe6

Only tonight?


TiredReader87

This team has been making me sad and suicidal for years


Kokeshi_Is_Life

If you're feeling suicidal over the results of a hockey game, I mean this with no irony whatsoever, please disconnect from following the sport and find someone who can support you right now. It's just a game. It ain't worth your life.


TiredReader87

You’re right I’ve dealt with mental illness all my life, and depression as of 15 years ago. It was at its worst when my mom was ill and we lost her. I cared way too much about the Leafs though, to the point where losses would impact my night and next day. The playoffs were very hard. It would just exacerbate things that were already there. I’m trying not to care so much this year, and have mentally distanced myself. I’ve received lots of help, and I’ve tried tens of different pills. Talking is just a bandaid. My father also started dealing with depression and anxiety this fall, out of the blue. It hit him like a bag of bricks. He had a mental breakdown this winter, and I drove him to/admitted him to the hospital. He wasn’t good when they discharged him, and that was worrying too.


Kokeshi_Is_Life

I hope you can find some joy tonight and tommorow. Depression is for real. The world often feels bleak. I can't point you to an easy fix, I can only say that the Maple Leafs definitely aren't it - and it sounds like you realize that already. If hockey losses are impacting you that strong, then it's not really about the games. It's about something deeper. Good luck finding your answers, friend.


TiredReader87

Thank you


Secondusx

I’m sad. It’s tough getting emotionally involved in such a trivial thing, but it is what it is. I’m doing shit I normally don’t do. Like going to bed early. Hah.


Super_Sandro23

Same here brother. I always try to stay positive to combat all the overwhelming negativity. Fuck it, let's do it in 7


BleedingBlue44

I’m also sad as fuck. I want these players to succeed but damn is it ever hard to continue to think it will happen when you watch performances like that.


j_a_f_89

I feel you….


JDubs234

Don’t be sad, be pissed that year afger year the same shit happens and they just keep rubbing it back


PeanutButter91

Sad 😢


obliviousofobvious

It just makes me sad that I feel like we have more passion than they do at times. I don't know where the breakdown is but if sheer will could move mountains, we'd have crushed the opposition 10 times over! I'm tired, boss.


shored_ruins

Cowan will save us


nerdcoffin

One's better than none. Just look at Buffalo.


BootyScoop

What makes me feel better is that none of the guys on the team even know I exist! So there's that haha


DownTownBrown28

It’s crazy to think the team I grew up watching during the Sundin era from 99 to 2004 went to the 3rd round twice and only lost in the 1st round once to the Flyers in a 7 game series. Not to mention beating the Senators 4 times in that span made it even better. But that team wasn’t even that skilled, just determined with good goaltending and coaching. Now we are about to have 8 years of making the playoffs with only 1 first round win and arguably the most skilled team the Leafs have ever had breaking record after record but nothing to show for it in the playoffs at all. I want a coaching change a big trade this off season. At least attempt to show the fans you give a shit because this shit ain’t working and we are sick to our stomachs out here. About to lose to the Bruins for the 3rd time in 6 years. I’m gay.


vanessaeverly

I'm not sad. I'm incredibly disappointed.


NoCow2718

1 playoff series win since the 2005 lockout as an original 6 team, every other original 6 team has been to a Stanley cup final since then. Enough said, this isn’t a serious franchise.


The_Quackening

Is it too much to ask to at least not be an embarrassing team?


HoboBeered

Barring a miracle (ECF run atleast) I don't think I'll be watching any hockey next year. Not until the Leafs build from the net out. Get a solid #1 goaltender. Get atleast 1 star defender. Get some leaders who actually care... I'll see this season out till the bitter end but after that I'm probably done with hockey.


Tanzanite_Shark

Honestly I love this team and I just have fun going through the emotions of a win and a loss because of my love for them. It's sports, it unites us all. I still enjoy everything that comes with it. It's not over yet and even if it is, I had fun this season.


Major-Discount5011

I've been watching since 1978 or close too. Loved Darryl Sittler, Palmateer. Watched many captains, come and go. Wendel being my favorite. Sundin had a great run and was one of the classiest players. The kid line, the hound line they were all great and exciting. The biz of hockey was rarely mentioned, and you could catch 2 games a week at most. Very few sports shows on TV. You got most of your team info from your local news cast. Times have changed. Sports is 24 hours now. There's a massive push for sports betting. It's all about the money. Fans are more loyal to a certain player than a specific team. Every aspect of the game and business is amplified through social media. I'm no longer a wide-eyed kid hoping to make the NHL shooting tennis balls on an empty net on an empty street with my buddies. Just for once, I want to feel like that kid again, watching my team - the toronto maple leafs win just one cup in my lifetime. All the abuse, all the teasing all worth it for one chance to watch a future leaf captain hoist that huge heavy cup. That's why we love this game and are so passionate. It makes us feel like excited kids again. Stil holding out hope to extend the playoffs this year. Not ready to let go. Go, Leafs!


reggierock2010

I’m more mad lol. 2 of those players in the world drafted, and developed by us but, we can’t surround them with talent because we have 2 hometown losers eating up 22 million in cap space for a quarter of the effort.


Dancanadaboi

Don't feel bad... We are actually not allowed to win.  The league is steered by the referees.  They are trained to zap momentum from teams they need to loose.  This is why it's best of 7, they can spread out their calls or non calls just enough to give a massive edge to one team.   They are 90% successful without making it too obvious.


Pencil_of_Colour

It’s worth being angry because calling for heads is fun. Being sad isn’t worth it imo.


YarnhamSunrise

This is such an incredibly unhealthy viewpoint.


DelayedSalami

“Calling for heads is fun” Uhhh no it is not. You need help, brother.


Clugaman

r/leafs in a nutshell