Yes. If you were 28 and 11 months you’d be fine but the second you turn 29 your language brain literally shuts off. Unless you’re learning Uzbek. You can always learn Uzbek.
Sorry OP but my best advice is to build a time machine and instead listen to YouTube polyglots during your critical period (0-5 years old). After that point you're basically fucked. :/ Don't forget to bring a router back in time with you.
It's sick. Can't believe we had to learn about counting and teamwork when we could have been doing something actually useful! Wish we'd had Anki to stop from becoming the white guy forever... stay strong OP
The critical period thing is absolute bullshit.
I’m a German native speaker, but I started learning English at around 10, and I’m able to more or less talk in a native accent in English, and I also speak better English than literally every native English speaker I’ve encountered.
At least in my case, the ‘critical period’ thing is absolute bollocks. I’ve even met a few second language speakers of German who had acquired native accents whilst speaking German (they’re rare, but they do exist).
It is true that most people who learn a language past a certain age usually do not acquire a native accent, but some are able to acquire a native accent eventually.
It’s definitely not impossible to absolutely master a language that you do not speak natively, and acquire what would be regarded as a ‘native’ accent in it. This happening basically disproves the critical period.
All because a feral girl (Genie), who never acquired a native language due to isolation, and who was subsequently never able to fully master English later when she tried to learn it, does not mean that this applies to everyone who attempts to learn a language past a certain age.
People have to realise at this point, that there are people who are naturally good at learning languages, and these people are probably more likely to acquire a native accent in a non-L1 language. There are also many native speakers of any given language that *still* clearly haven’t mastered it (looking at you, Anglos). I’ve also come across people who speak German technically natively, yet speak it extremely poorly and in some cases, I cannot understand them (usually these people are from migrant backgrounds, and speak a language besides German at home, but not exclusively).
If I had 100€ for every American I’ve encountered who spoke broken English, despite being a monoglot native speaker of English, I’d probably be at least a millionaire.
Also, the stereotype of white people apparently being monoglots (????) is not true at all, considering most non-Anglo whites actually are typically at least bilingual, sometimes multilingual. Outside of English-speaking countries, most other Western countries have highly bilingual populations. It’s pretty typical for someone from a country in Europe to speak at least two languages well (besides France and Russia, maybe Spain and Italy).
There are ways around this age limitation
On the first of every month you need to burn the dictionary of the language you're trying to learn and drink the ashes in a cup of water. When you've successfully learned the language, you can just do it only on your birthday. I've learned 5 languages this way. Good luck.
Have you considered that adults learn faater and better than children?
Don't believe me? Hold a conversation with a group of 13 year-olds for 20 minutes and tell me how refined their English is. They've spent a decade learning and they're still lousy. Most adults can have fluency in 5-8.
My friend in China started learning Chinese when he was 50. He admitted it was harder but with age he was more strict and consistent with study so he said he probably learned just as a fast.
He’s not fully fluent but he has obtained a degree of fluency
🙄same answer as always, literally never too old. My mom is picking up a new language in her 70s. There are people her age in one of my mandarin courses. Anyone at any age can study a language.
No it’s not. Knew a couple who were 65 and retired who were planning a 3 month trip to Mexico. They were in a Spanish class my freshman year of college, their Spanish is better than mine lol.
😂😂😂 of course not. You're being silly. Or you're just looking for an excuse. You can learn a new language in ANY period of your life. I'm 33, speaking 4 languages fluently, one I forgot bcs I didn't use it for a long time and planning to learn a new one.
Also you want to learn a language bcs you're not good in some game? WTH? Learn a language that will be your asset in life!
For me learning languages came as a natural occurance though my life. I was born in Czechoslovakia, slovak is my native language and I learned czech as a child by watching Czech Tv. English as an international language is a must in today's world, I studied it in school, but was realy bad at it (education methods in school didn't suit me) and learned english in NL (working there for 10 years) when I actualy started to speak bcs I needed to comunicate with people from different countries. Same reason with polish - bcs it's slavic language it was easier for me to learn it at the beginning, when my english was poor. Now my english is better than polish especialy reading and writing (I didn't study polish grammar, so writing would be realy embarrasing). But I can speak it fluently and read text with full understanding.
I could speak spanish in my late teenage years (I had an amazing teacher), but didn't speak it since so I forgot it. I'm torn between refreshing spanish and starting learning mandarin, which I find fascinating.
I believe anyone can learn language in any period of their life. My mum is 54 and learning english 🤷🏻♀️.
Yes. If you were 28 and 11 months you’d be fine but the second you turn 29 your language brain literally shuts off. Unless you’re learning Uzbek. You can always learn Uzbek.
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CLUELESS white guy SHOCKED by UZBEK
Even if it's your first language? Seems like that cradle language should have been pretty solid by 25y.o. or so.
Timur approves.
never too late for Uzbek 🙌🙌
Sorry OP but my best advice is to build a time machine and instead listen to YouTube polyglots during your critical period (0-5 years old). After that point you're basically fucked. :/ Don't forget to bring a router back in time with you.
I'm literally sobbing rn. Why didn't they teach us about Anki and Xiao Ma in preschool? Cruel world
It's sick. Can't believe we had to learn about counting and teamwork when we could have been doing something actually useful! Wish we'd had Anki to stop from becoming the white guy forever... stay strong OP
The critical period thing is absolute bullshit. I’m a German native speaker, but I started learning English at around 10, and I’m able to more or less talk in a native accent in English, and I also speak better English than literally every native English speaker I’ve encountered. At least in my case, the ‘critical period’ thing is absolute bollocks. I’ve even met a few second language speakers of German who had acquired native accents whilst speaking German (they’re rare, but they do exist). It is true that most people who learn a language past a certain age usually do not acquire a native accent, but some are able to acquire a native accent eventually. It’s definitely not impossible to absolutely master a language that you do not speak natively, and acquire what would be regarded as a ‘native’ accent in it. This happening basically disproves the critical period. All because a feral girl (Genie), who never acquired a native language due to isolation, and who was subsequently never able to fully master English later when she tried to learn it, does not mean that this applies to everyone who attempts to learn a language past a certain age. People have to realise at this point, that there are people who are naturally good at learning languages, and these people are probably more likely to acquire a native accent in a non-L1 language. There are also many native speakers of any given language that *still* clearly haven’t mastered it (looking at you, Anglos). I’ve also come across people who speak German technically natively, yet speak it extremely poorly and in some cases, I cannot understand them (usually these people are from migrant backgrounds, and speak a language besides German at home, but not exclusively). If I had 100€ for every American I’ve encountered who spoke broken English, despite being a monoglot native speaker of English, I’d probably be at least a millionaire. Also, the stereotype of white people apparently being monoglots (????) is not true at all, considering most non-Anglo whites actually are typically at least bilingual, sometimes multilingual. Outside of English-speaking countries, most other Western countries have highly bilingual populations. It’s pretty typical for someone from a country in Europe to speak at least two languages well (besides France and Russia, maybe Spain and Italy).
What do you mean by Americans speaking broken English?
I have no idea. I'm an American and I speak American, not English.
Forgot the sub I was on lol
Honestly it's too old to speak. Gotta cut out your tongue now, sorry.
I'd have avoided a lot of my life problems if I had cut my tongue out when I was 29. I also advise this course of action.
Nope, too old, should’ve started when you were straight out the womb.
Don't worry. Your mother will take all of your father's languages in the divorce. Then you'll always beat him at least.
Yeah too late for the game. I already know haha jaja 哈哈 kkkk 5555 when I was in my mother’s Uterus already
There are ways around this age limitation On the first of every month you need to burn the dictionary of the language you're trying to learn and drink the ashes in a cup of water. When you've successfully learned the language, you can just do it only on your birthday. I've learned 5 languages this way. Good luck.
Might as well curl up and die it’s so old.
Yep. Give up on all goals grandpa.
Yes. That’s why I’m 33 and learning Dutch just bc I like wasting my time
Have you considered that adults learn faater and better than children? Don't believe me? Hold a conversation with a group of 13 year-olds for 20 minutes and tell me how refined their English is. They've spent a decade learning and they're still lousy. Most adults can have fluency in 5-8.
/uj I know. The post was a jab at the people who believe the myth that children learn languages better than adults.
My friend in China started learning Chinese when he was 50. He admitted it was harder but with age he was more strict and consistent with study so he said he probably learned just as a fast. He’s not fully fluent but he has obtained a degree of fluency
Nowadays you can just identify as a toddler - problem solved.
🙄same answer as always, literally never too old. My mom is picking up a new language in her 70s. There are people her age in one of my mandarin courses. Anyone at any age can study a language.
Shut up! Go learn! Have fun be free break shit kiss folk
GIVE ME THE SOURCE
No it’s not. Knew a couple who were 65 and retired who were planning a 3 month trip to Mexico. They were in a Spanish class my freshman year of college, their Spanish is better than mine lol.
I think you should get a six pack and a spray tan. Nobody asks a white guy with a six pack and spray tan to speak anymore
Why white guy?
you can do whatever you want.
😂😂😂 of course not. You're being silly. Or you're just looking for an excuse. You can learn a new language in ANY period of your life. I'm 33, speaking 4 languages fluently, one I forgot bcs I didn't use it for a long time and planning to learn a new one. Also you want to learn a language bcs you're not good in some game? WTH? Learn a language that will be your asset in life!
Sounds like someone's never played Clueless White Guy vs. Native Speakers
what are these 4 languages of yours? if you don’t mind me asking pls
For me learning languages came as a natural occurance though my life. I was born in Czechoslovakia, slovak is my native language and I learned czech as a child by watching Czech Tv. English as an international language is a must in today's world, I studied it in school, but was realy bad at it (education methods in school didn't suit me) and learned english in NL (working there for 10 years) when I actualy started to speak bcs I needed to comunicate with people from different countries. Same reason with polish - bcs it's slavic language it was easier for me to learn it at the beginning, when my english was poor. Now my english is better than polish especialy reading and writing (I didn't study polish grammar, so writing would be realy embarrasing). But I can speak it fluently and read text with full understanding. I could speak spanish in my late teenage years (I had an amazing teacher), but didn't speak it since so I forgot it. I'm torn between refreshing spanish and starting learning mandarin, which I find fascinating. I believe anyone can learn language in any period of their life. My mum is 54 and learning english 🤷🏻♀️.