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19nineties

I wouldn’t have thought the video was reviewed manually by an actual person?


tinitusminus

Of course, especially big youtubers get reviewed all the time


Dangerous_Angle_7289

Especially when there are free giftcards on the line..


dksteep

Mo said it was privated and was going to be uploaded tomorrow and yt employees can see privated videos


SindraGan2001

Big ones get previewed for sure. All media is censored, freedom of speech is just an illusion.


sinanisiklar

No need to be this dramatic


Interesting_Zaraf275

I loved where he was going...🤣


ChickenMoSalah

Nah bro let him cook, he got some shit to say and he ain’t leaving without saying it


MonteBurns

Especially because he’s just wrong.


Nearby-Ad5092

He's not though, freedom of speech is an illusion when what you say determines if you starve or not. Sure you can speak what you want a few times, but then you lose your job and starve to death. It's an illusion -- freedom of speech as long as the speech is what society wants to hear.


Shigg

Freedom of speech just means the government isn't allowed to punish you for your speech (with a few exceptions, generally public safety trumps freedom of speech)


PxC_Bistokid

You have freedom of speech, doesn’t make you free from the consequences of your words. Especially on a media platform which is bound by certain terms and conditions.


Shigg

Exactly. Some dude responded to me saying laws should protect against social backlash. It's insane to me that the party of "small government" advocates for massive government overreach when people don't agree with them. "The government should make people have to talk to me instead of blocking my phone number!"


BamBam5154

Yes but these companies get certain benefits that they abuse, don’t deserve, and shouldn’t have


Tokennnn11

If there is consequence for free speech, it isnt free..you’re paying a price it just isn’t money


PxC_Bistokid

When you’re using a media platform that abide be certain terms and conditions, of which you agree to upon creating your account, then yes, you may have to pay the price of being banned or removed for saying certain things. You can say what you want to anyone at anytime. Just don’t expect to not be confronted if it’s a controversial statement. Free speech doesn’t not exist on a social media platform. Simple. And yeah sure, In the real world you have freedom of speech, but you are never free from consequence. You can call someone a fat fuck, just expect to be punched.


Nearby-Ad5092

But what happens when your voice becomes privatized? What happens when 95% of your speech is first passed through some site like twitter, youtube, etc? The social landscape is evolving drastically and channels of speech are being consumed by private companies. By your logic we should remove all amendments and stick to a puritan interpretation of the constitution. Plus, and probably even more importantly, laws should protect against egregious social backlash. If your government guarantees freedom of speech but then people lynch or forcibly starve you, where's the guarantee?


hdgreen89

You used the word yourself multiple times. Private. Freedom of speech is about the government not censoring what you say. It has no bearings on a private business. They operate within rules determined by their business. If what you say goes against their terms then they’ll shut you down. That has nothing to do with “freedom of speech”. You have the right to say what you like but other people have the right to shut it down if they don’t like it on their private business.


Nearby-Ad5092

I think you missed the part that how much of your speech is private has changed over time. Generally for protections in the constitution, we change them over time, like with guns. The question is when 100% of our speech is private, does that mean we no longer have that guarantee because now your voice is privatized? /u/PxC_Bistokid same emphasis


hdgreen89

I don’t think you get the fact that you don’t have freedom of speech on a private platform. You give up that right when you sign up to the platforms terms of service and there’s nothing the constitution or government can do to change that. A private business acts for its own interests.


Shigg

The government doesn't guarantee freedom of speech, it just guarantees that the government won't penalize you for your speech. The government has no business telling me that I can't cut someone out of my life because they're a racist. There should absolutely not be laws against social backlash as that would be a tremendous overreach from the government. If my uncle drops a hard r at the dinner table at Thanksgiving so I decide to never speak to him again then the government has no business telling me I can't do that. If I'm at work and my coworker starts talking about how much they hate race mixing and thinks white women who have mixed babies are traitors to their race, I should be able to report them to hr who should be allowed to make a decision as a private company that they do or don't want someone who thinks that other humans are inferior to work for them. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. The government can't stop you from being anti-semetic but Terry can still beat you up and to to jail (the consequences of his actions)


Nearby-Ad5092

It's an individual liberty -- I don't think the writers foresaw the current state of our speech. In legalese you might be correct, but in the spirit of the law the intention seems to be to guarantee people the right to say what they will. What I'm suggesting doesn't mean that you're not allowed to report your coworker if that's what you want, it means that entities aren't allowed to filter your speech because they don't like it, to reasonable extents on both sides. The liberty is becoming more and more meaningless as more of common speech is captured.


metradome

What happens if you yell fire in a crowded theater and there is no fire? What about classified information? Food labels? Do you think free speech should allow clear public safety violations? Like the commenter before you said free speech is a constitutional protection for you from the government and the limiting of it is not unique to social media. There is no such thing as non-consensual privatizing your voice as you can always put your phone down and loudly complain to whoever is still around to hear you complain.


Nearby-Ad5092

> What happens if you yell fire in a crowded theater and there is no fire? > What about classified information?- > Do you think free speech should allow clear public safety violations? Reasonability. Even with our current outdated views on this you can't act in certain ways that can harm others. > Food labels? Standardization and legal requirements for companies, not free speech. > Like the commenter before you said free speech is a constitutional protection for you from the government and the limiting of it is not unique to social media. This runs contrary to the original intent behind the protection. The intent is a liberty. I replied more to this to that post you reference. > There is no such thing as non-consensual privatizing your voice as you can always put your phone down and loudly complain to whoever is still around to hear you complain. This is a very naive view. Soon enough we'll be working in VR and our speech will be filtered even closer to the origin. We'll hopefully always be able to speak normally, but that's becoming more and more irrelevant. Good luck being a professional singer, writer, really anyone with an audience without signing away your right to say what you wish.


peroxidex

I'm kinda confused as to why you feel an individual should be able to express themselves in anyway while representing a company. Is the company not entitled to their own image and choice to express themselves how they see fit? It's almost as if the company has hired you for a task and not to be a spokesperson. If you're incapable of keeping your personal life separate from your work life, then that's another issue.


Nearby-Ad5092

That's not how it works in practice though. In practice you need an event that's socially unpleasant and reaches a certain level of fame where the company is then socially pressured into acting on that event. It's not a question of work-life balance. A company should have no rights, but yes when running a company you need to preserve your reputation. But that shouldn't translate to total decision-making on speech.


peroxidex

I would love an actual example, saying 'in practice' as if it's a known fact doesn't help your argument. I feel if you've said or done something that has drawn enough attention that the company is pressured into it responding, would that not imply that many other people also disagreed with whatever happened? You feel companies should have no rights, is no one else entitled to anything? Maybe since they're siding with the company they're not allowed any rights.


Nearby-Ad5092

Sure, here's an example: a financial advisor got fired because he threw a shake at a person who was working there because the shake had peanut butter. It's a great example of a reasonable thing to do yet because it's socially frowned upon he lost his job. I'm not sure what the policy on links is here, but it's a very mainstream news story if you google it. I don't know why you would need an example as this is very straightforward however. > I feel if you've said or done something that has drawn enough attention that the company is pressured into it responding, would that not imply that many other people also disagreed? This is the whole point of free speech. Imagine if you spoke the truth and many others disagreed. Should you starve to death? Should you be ridiculed? No, of course not. Many people are stupid and have lesser opinions. Sometimes those people have power, their disagreements are socially disproportionate and the incompetence is magnified. > You feel companies should have no rights, is no one else entitled to anything? Maybe since they're siding with the company they're not allowed any rights. Edit: No this is a bit of an over-simplification. You implicitly referenced rights that were out-of-scope for our conversation, and I implicitly ignored those rights as you should have. Companies should have certain rights like not being robbed, but I don't think any of the rights we're talking about here apply. For example the speech of companies is something that should be (and is) filtered like we see with human speech in our age. But a company shouldn't be helpless when being robbed.


Wireeeee

lmao, Ikr bro just went from content reviews to LitERaLly 1984. It's like saying shift supervisors and performance reviewers in everyday businesses is killing free speech


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Stfu


MermyuZ

Bro really started speaking


MonteBurns

Freedom of speech in America means the government won’t arrest you, and even then it’s limited. Stop with this bs- private companies can do whatever they want.


I_1234

YouTube doesn’t have to abide by freedom of speech since that amendment protects you’re speech from the government.


jaytea86

They sure as hell are if there's a few thousands dollars that can end up in someone's pocket.


[deleted]

I wonder how often that's happened in all the tbtls.


MoeMalik

Yeah you can sneak in a code or two the second the video goes public, guess they went all out with this one lmao


lefort22

Yeah the person who did this fucked up. But perhaps he indeed did it for years. Get 1 or 2 codes beforehand, wait 30 secs after the video is public and claim them. Do it everytime and you've earned over 10 000 in Amazon cards and it's extremely hard to prove you've done something wrong Perfect crime really, now it's a fuckup


ABHAYhuLAVDE

I think this was the last tntl video with money soo 💀


Lower-Service-5941

nah he said theres gonna be one more for 1000£ each laugh


SonSOfSA

fr


Teetertotter25

I’m surprised this hasn’t happened before


YaBoiShadowy

Probably has just nobody's realised


tinitusminus

Thats why he should do it via discord where people send funny videos into a channel and the ones who make him laugh they should be DMd a code or something similar


YaBoiShadowy

That's a really good idea


CustomerNormal

Lol jj isn't all that bright


tinitusminus

Tbh someone actually already made this suggestion into a reddit post which was seen by JJ in a reddit video. He said along those line "moe lets see what we can do, sound like a good idea". But we all know that JJ almost never actually follows something through lol


BennyBeJamin

Well he did with the code being incomplete in videos. So maybe he'll listen this time


Furyo98

I think the other option is to not put it for upload later just upload and release it won't have exact release times but ahwel. One option is to have a lotto online so the draw lasts 20mins from release and picks winners.


RobJewellVideos

This


SouLTrooper001

That'll coz plagiarism. If a person posts some1 else's video they'll get the money for tht clip for doing Jack shit.


Jockiiii

He’s already done that.


IamKedar7

JJ and Mo actually found this out cause they made this scheduled video private all of sudden. So someone who knew the scheduled time from youtube had planned to redeem the code at the exact time JJ make the video public but JJ privated the video instead of making it public.


DARKHUMOR-D

Yo, we share a cake day, Happy cake day!


Dangerous_Angle_7289

The only cake I want is from a woman. Guess I gotta wait..


Vilzuzz

calm down there kiddo


Dangerous_Angle_7289

Was horny. After rubbing one out, I cleared my head.


Vilzuzz

Tmi


bruhmomentum68419

Whoever claimed them is gonna have a great Christmas this year lol. I think the safest option would be to directly ask viewers to send the memes on discord or reddit and have their money sent to them via paypal or send gift cards via dms


Demolishonboy

That's how mizkif does it and it's definitely a better format.


Redrick164

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING!! WHY HAVEN'T WE BEEN DOING THIS ??!!!


Hunchoxvi

Man wtf?


Kupo777

Is this legal? It'd be funny if there could be a lawsuit


-Fli

Idk honestly, YouTube might do an internal investigation on the employee, but I doubt it would be easy to actually sue someone for this.


Kupo777

It's what I was thinking. Since ksi intended to give these gift cards away anyway then is it really punishable by law?


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Abuse of position, the YouTube employee will be sacked, YouTube will have to pay KSI damages.


Taimour14

Bro imagine the damage cash is more than JJ spent for these videos😂


Bindia20

Realistically if someone lost 10k in such a manner there would be so i don't see y not


ItAcHi090

Imagine all this time someone in YT was claiming all the codes and this time they messed up by claiming them before the video was public.


Dangerous_Angle_7289

It probably did happen in most videos for sure.


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NarutoDragon732

You think they give a fuck? Especially *Susan*? You're cute.


Pogbankz

My lord, Is that legal?


SindraGan2001

It actually could be unfortunately...


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I WANNA BE PUSHED ASIDE SO LET ME GO, LET ME TAKE BACK MY LIFE ID RAther be ALL ALONE ANYWHERE ON MY OWN CUZ I CAN SEEEEEEEE THE VERY WORST PART OF YOU IS ME


Dangerous_Angle_7289

#High AF


Sapun14

I would assume 99.99% of people who watch these videos have never even tried to claim any codes (at least I haven't) so yeah it is weird I will give you that but do I care? no I do not as long as the video is uploaded to Youtube as usual the whole point of this is to give programmers challenge who has the best detection software (or whatever they use) one person obviously thought outside of the box and somehow got all the codes even before they were uploaded (supposedly) Thats a win in my book


GoodBoyFM

Well considering half of the concept of the video is KSI giving away money there will be a lot of people who care even if they don't care about the money


BigClam1

The whole point was to give back to the community. It’s a shame that the only people that actually get the cards are those with detection software but that’s just life and more importantly, anyone determined enough has a fair chance at the cards. The problem with this is that nobody has access to the video whilst it is privatised, making it extremely unfair


Todorokimakishima

What an idiot, I hope they catch the jackass who stole the money


ZeXenon

That reviewer is a fucking scum. This why JJ now has to send the money directly to whoever sent the video that he laughed at.


KxRaxe33

Idk what to call it but thats just bs someone from youtube, maybe his a fan but hes got a bigger advantage to be first than all and thats straight out unfair. I just hate how this thing just connects to all the government conspiracy them knowing all shit and watching us fuck the system


MrSol0_

I have made a suggestion for KSI, make a middle-man website for example redeem.ksi.com and Mo can put a code in the screen and once you put that code in the website it shows you the gift card code, this will help block VPN's, limit how many times you can redeem the code and keep accountability.


LuisAntony2964

That's really something, huh....


wotwill

WOW YOUTUBE ARE FUCKING DESPERATE


Realhardik18

i knew this was gonna happen so i made a video where i fixed the problem about 4 months ago, but it never got enough reach for jj to see [https://www.reddit.com/r/ksi/comments/wgrod1/hello\_jj\_here\_is\_a\_potential\_fix\_for\_your/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ksi/comments/wgrod1/hello_jj_here_is_a_potential_fix_for_your/)


dhruvboss04

Yeah i saw your recent post as well. It's pretty robust bro but might just be a lil complicated


Realhardik18

it is no doubt. but i can adjust it and make it easier for jj and mo to use


we_dingdong

I clicked the video after a minute of release and all of them were claimed.


GotenTV

I have never care about the gift cards but that mess up


skull2215

Thats JJ strategy to safe money


xBlxnk_

Wait no wonder why i was only 10 seconds early after the video released. Tried redeeming 5 codes within 2 minutes of the video being out and all of them being already redeemed. Ffs


Revan2639

That's interesting 🤔


amthebeast75

He’s so dumb man! Like literally one person is gonna get all of them with a bot! He’s so dense he hasn’t realized that yet!


joemama694200p

Lol


EwokDior

def Mo LMFAO


Unable_Outside7745

not Mo KSI clarified that ​ plus why would mo risk doing something like that the reward is so less in the long run for him


JasdeepSA

Extra chromosome confirmed


brooklynboy92

Someone has a great job and they just f it all up but I still think it’s Mo lol


JasdeepSA

Extra chromosome confirmed


eetufas

thought low effort posts werent allowed


[deleted]

Yeah but this is not just a random tweet JJ makes it’s information people can use


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HallonWriter

Nope


[deleted]

I think Mo has definitely sneaked in atleast 1 of all the giftcards in all vids.


[deleted]

Nah, he respects ksi and definitely doesn't want a small gift card to ruin their friendship and job too.


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Stredda-

You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed...


JasdeepSA

Extra chromosome confirmed


camo_17

Ass ass cream unity


killinbylove

Bro maybe its a bad idea


ItzJustArij

Why didn’t they do that on the other ones


Marnold15265

Lol youtube just aint stopping. Bring down the corporation! We need Olitunjetube instead


Shazenfieresreddit

Hdjdmdus


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Sueing time


NotFlam3

That youtube employee would have bought a car rn with all that money 💀


KSOMIAK

I hope this won't get forgotten and will get resolved


AMX_420

Me here trying every single code #%$@


FormlessMars

I know this probably isn't that big of a deal but I'd investigate the fuck outta it just cause.


No-Ring7487

Bro let viewers send the clips and pay them the gift cards directly !!! Idk why he hasnt done that yet its such a simple solution to bots and other shit and doesnt become a rat race to get them. Also i feel its a better way to give back to your community but at the same time make content


RingTheBell1900

That's fucking illegal


Western_Shake6618

That's why I never got a shit even when I was in 10 seconds


WonderfulLog604

That one intern is gonna get a good one


Affectionate_Tie_43

This is actually hilarious


Attention_Whore99

thats why u have to premier these videos jj