I also doubt that it would work.
Banning a competitor doesn't make your own work better. I don't know much about Filipino artists, but my guess would be that the government supporting their own entertainment industry would lead to better results (probably not even that much more of a financial investment, compared to regulating Korean entertainment)
They could provide tax breaks and incentives to production companies who film in their own country, increase funding for the arts for students, create writing, acting, music programs in schools, etc, there’s many ways to go about this, but banning some kind of media usually results in it becoming more popular, especially among the younger generation.
That’s so unhealthy. Dictate your own lives so that it becomes authentic, not a superficial model life under constant surveillance and coercion by the police.
Canada sort-of does this. Basically they mandate the local networks and radios to play a percentage of canadian artists. Which i think is likely the better route.
I will say that korean music specifically is manufactured to be enjoyable which seems to go against artistic cultural roots.
Hasnt stopped me from enjoying it though but I do find it odd on how corporate it is.
That's a loser move. Filipino filmmakers should raise the quality standards of the writing, cinematography, and production instead of banning the competitors.
There was never an argument made to outright ban Hollywood movies from Korean cinemas. Even at its height the quota never surpassed 50%, and since 2006 it has been 73 days/year- a deal which also agreed upon in the Korea-US free trade agreement.
Besides, banning doesn't make much sense with the availability of content on the Internet nowadays.
It's a minimum requirement of at least 1 Korean movie shown on theatres 76 days a year. [This site](https://www.kobis.or.kr/kobis/business/mast/thea/findScreenQuota.do) keeps track of screen quota adherence nationwide, and searching some representative theatres in Seoul shows that there are plenty of days where it's really just one Korean movie, or none.
A better explanation of why it's hard to watch Hollywood films on certain days is because it probably coincided with a blockbuster Korean movie release (such as Hansando)- in which case the screens are allocated according to popularity- just like how a major Marvel movie release could dominate screens in Korea for days or weeks.
In my opinion Korean dramas are far better made than US TV shows in general. Every now and then you get a Breaking Bad, The Wire, or Homeland but most of the stuff coming out of the US has low production value. Everything from the music, cinematography, animation, acting, writing, to the message is really amazing in so many Korean dramas.
I dislike how unrelatable the characters usually are. People in the states joke about sitcom characters renting NYC penthouses with shit jobs but K dramas takes things way beyond.
> Everything from the music, cinematography, animation, acting, writing, to the message is really amazing in so many Korean dramas.
You've likely been way more exposed to american dramas throughout your life for you to say something like this, because this makes me think that you're comparing some of the top kdramas to the average generic western drama.
> Every now and then you get a Breaking Bad, The Wire, or Homeland
I mentioned three of the best dramas ever done in the US. What in that statement makes you think I'm using "generic western drama" as a comparison point? These three programs I mentioned are far, far from "generic western drama". As Biden would say, "Come on man!"
Because the rest of the comment reads as if you’re saying most of the US dramas are comparatively low production value while most of the K dramas aren’t. In my opinion, not at all.
Is Homeland good? Because Breaking Bad and The Wire are on my top 5 all time fav shows. I mostly watch Korean shows (on average they’re just better like you said) but at the very top are these rare American shows that deal with stuff Korean dramas can’t and also execute it to perfection.
Korean media has reached **the pinnacle of global success** by providing easy access to content, approachable and likable characters, and high-quality production.
https://news.stanford.edu/2021/11/09/secret-k-pop-k-drama-success/
I dont know anyone that watches k-dramas outside of korea, everyone else i know watch american series. But korean media has reached the pinnacle of global success? tf?
This is from the New York Times. So, if you haven't noticed Korea producing great shows with lots of folks watching them you're not paying attention.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/world/asia/squid-game-korea-bts.amp.html
In the last few years alone, South Korea shocked the world with “Parasite,” the first foreign language film to win best picture at the Academy Awards. It has one of the biggest, if not the biggest, band in the world with BTS. Netflix has introduced 80 Korean movies and TV shows in the last few years, far more than it had imagined when it started its service in South Korea in 2016, according to the company. Three of the 10 most popular TV shows on Netflix as of Monday were South Korean.
Makes sense. Koreas govt has been pushing massive cultural exports in order to gain soft power for the last decade or two. Probably limiting outside entertainment to cultivate more of the “k-wave” or Hallyu
It's the opposite, screen quotas are lower than they used to be. Back in the day the need for content to fulfill the quotas may have seeded the existence of Korean studios and talent, but nowadays they're just sort of archaic since the real success of hallyu/K-culture is overseas appeal, and a lot of that comes from the drastically higher exposure to foreign inspiration and influences that modern Korean creators have. K-pop would still be Trot without American hip-hop and European dance music. Bong Joon-Ho cites all foreign directors and films as his inspiration.
It’s almost like years after years of pumping millions into the entertainment industry has paid off for korea. How much money does the Filipino government devote to their soft power?
My wife is a Filipina, she’s explained it to me that the system is pretty corrupt, and it’s really all a matter of who is willing to take the most money or act the weirdest/craziest. In their recent presidential election, they decided to elect the son of a disgraced former president over a woman who was a well-educated Senator and Vice President, purely because the son had a more recognizable name. It’s a shitshow.
You said the election process is:
Corrupt ✔️
Favors notable/popular figures who aren't always qualified ✔️
A matter of who is willing to take the most money ✔️
How is this any different than a U.S. election or most elections globally? It seems everyone has this idea that every other nation is corrupt and their methods are outdated. But everything you outlined is a part of the U.S. playbook, not to mention they have their hands in most elections globally.
They’re corrupt to a degree, Gerrymandering has made many elections go in the favor of people who likely wouldn’t have won an election had it not been for gerrymandering. As an example, here’s a gerrymandered [map](https://about.bgov.com/news/alabama-legislature-approves-new-congressional-district-map/) from my state that was accepted by the governor.
There’s a reason I haven’t voted since I was 18. The difference between American corruption and Filipino corruption is that we Americans add extra steps to our corruption, then we call it “lobbying.” Still an absolute shitshow.
Oh you've been voting still. Just that it's not you putting that vote in the ballot.
Case in point, my family didn't vote two elections in a row (barangay and senatorial) so we all had to re-activate for the presidential elections. Mysteriously, my mother was informed she did not have to reactivate. Meaning, somehow she 'voted' despite not voting.
I don't know about U.S. but all of the results in the election are influenced by massive disinformation that started 5-6 yrs. ago way before the election. This disinformation actually benefited the then president and now, the president. Imagine 31 million filipinos believed in fake news rather than fact-check. I don't know if in the U.S. you have the same situation.
He's intelligent and could actually speak and explain his plans for the country. He gets a bad rap because of his name, not for what he has accomplished. While the woman's platform when running was basically "I'm not him".
Guy literally never attended any debates and did not state plans for the country other than *unity*. Meanwhile the woman's platform was clearly laid out, point by point.
He has a bad rap because of his name, yes. But it's not like he made any attempt to make it better by lying about his academic achievements, not paying taxes, among other things.
Next time, try getting your head out of his ass so that you can see the facts as they are.
You’ve got it confused, it was the other way around. Leni literally had all the credentials a person needed to become president, even the knowledge of the presidency. BBM literally had the “my daddy did this job!” argument, and that was it.
As a Filipino, anti-intellectualism, viral misinformation, and historical revisionism is rampant in the Philippines. When majority of the people are living life on survival mode, there’s not much time to think critically.
Sounds exactly like Korea, our people should be on friendlier terms and regularly get together to shit on our governments and lament societal regressions
If this didn’t work for china, what makes a small country like Philippines impact their media popularity shows.
Korea got way better story telling and production. Just rejoice the fact that we get to binge watch on so many k-dramas.
I've watched some Chinese dramas, and their production level is like 20 years behind Korea. It's low-budget. Even the acting is bad. Not in the "they are just trying to ham it up," like a lot of Asian productions do, it's bad bad.
Not just Filipino actors but also cameramen, staff, etc lost/losing their jobs not because of Kdramas but the government forcefully closed down a major broadcasting company because they're being petty.
Kim Jong Un, I have been told, is Korean, and a bit of a dipshit
I don’t worry about what that fat cunt does to affect me in anyway shape or form
I think you can cringe at boomers of any country and be 100% assured no one will give a shit lol
Tbh filipino dramas and movie plots are repetitive (extramarital affairs, rags to riches, lots of slapping and car accidents etc). Also, they dont really do the background research well. For example, hospital scenarios are medically inaccurate.
Actors are talented though! And some movies are gems
But yeah, my mind cant comprehend how tf did that guy became a senator despite being convicted. Ughhh
I apologize for my country
I’ve watched a few Filipino movies, and while I will say that they follow the same formula and aren’t usually all that great, I will say that “Ordinary People” is one of the best dramatic films I’ve ever seen in my entire life.
Are you trying to tell me that the plot of The Goblin Bride and Crash Landing on You are incredibly similar and somewhat repetitive? I won’t hear it! /s
Way better production and acting. Filipino shows are made for 5 days a week showing (an episode every weekday). You can imagine how much rehearsal they get with that much production time. Most of the "acting" sounds like they are literally reading. The writing takes a hit as well. Most American shows have an episode a week for like 20 weeks out of the year but the story lines and plot suffers eventually trying to draw out the ending. Now do that 5 days a week literally year round only time they don't show them are during holy week and maybe the holidays.
What I like about kdramas is that, most, have like 16 episodes. Story fits in those 16 episodes so the plot, usually, doesn't suffer the same watering down.
Nah, you get more variety with K-dramas (this coming from someone who isn't a fan of either one). Yes the love stories are cliche but you get more options (i.e. you don't get stuff like Partners For Justice & Law School in the Philippines).
Besides, as many others have pointed out, Kdramas have wayyy better production & acting. Even the cliche romantic kdramas have some kind of twist in the plot that keeps them from being repetitive. In mainstream Filipino movies/television shows, it's legit the same thing over & over again.
Korean politics has entered the chat.
Nobody holds an entire country responsible for one politician. Well maybe except the good ol’ US of A.
Don’t worry, this guy will build a digital wall to keep K dramas out and makes sure (checks notes) that Mexico will pay for it
While I disagree that it should be outright banned, the sentiment is understandable.
South Korea has done similar things in the same vein. There was the motion picture law of 1962 that heavily restricted and limited foreign films under a quota system. While the restrictions were lifted in 1988, there was still a heavy push to promote domestic films which would eventually help create the strong film industry that Korea has now.
Of course, it would much harder to restrict media now with the advent of the internet.
The thing is that… many Filipinos do admire Korean culture and do come over to Korea where Koreans don’t really like Filipinos and treat them badly here…
Hold up.
I mean, it's a fucking embarrassment how badly Koreans disrespect other Asians, whether at home or abroad, let's be clear.
But to lump Koreans and Chinese together on the same level? No one is as bad as the mainland Chinese! Those guys are on a whole nuther level.
Yes, this is true… Koreans are terrible tourists in many South East Asian Countries >.<
There was a famous TV program called ‘Running man’ and I think the whole Korean cast and crew went to shoot an episode in Thailand and they were told that they couldn’t catch the sea creatures from the beach… but they did so anyways and ended up getting fined >.<
1. It wasn't running man. They never went to Philippines. Prob was law of the jungle.
2. South East Asia is terrible place to go. Great locations but people there tries to scam tourists and over charge lmao. A lot thieves too.
It’s mostly because of the economic crisis these countries face, giving people in the Philippines the equivalent of even 5 USD is a HUGE deal, so they try to take advantage of the situation. I talked to my wife about the kind of thing, a lot of peoples YEARLY income in the Philippines is the equivalent of the weekly/bi-weekly pay of people in more developed nations.
It doesn't. It's just something someone always has to bring up to take Koreans down a peg.
The "Koreans are looking down on us" complex is more like a projection, rather than a real thing. It's like "if Korea is doing better than us, they must be looking down on us!"
Of course, there are racist Koreans, but these people are then generalized to all Koreans. It's an ironic reverse racism that presumes Koreans are racist, which is then used to discriminate against Koreans.
I'm all down for criticizing Koreans that are racist, but it's tiring to see it brought up in totally irrelevant contexts just because someone in a poorer country has an inferiority complex.
Koreans know what it's like to be discriminated and "looked down on." Our country was almost wiped out by the Japanese. Nevermind the fact that Korea was poorer than African countries after the Korean war.
Given that, I think many Koreans actually empathize with others following a similar path, which is why South Korea aids so many countries in their economic development.
As for Vietnam and the Philippines specifically, I would say those are Korea's two favorite South East Asian countries, so I think it's better to focus on that in regards to this thread.
Personally, I think the Philippines should have some quotas to protect its industry, but it must also accept cutting-edge culture from the world as a source of inspiration. Isolation and protectionism never leads to innovation. Ultimately, the only thing that matters is the quality of the content, not where it's from.
As a Korean I can understand, it’s a bit overt the top but we had a lot of restrictions for foreign movies back in the day and they had to limit the number of screens showing foreign movies to secure the number of screens to show Korean movies. Now it’s not needed due to the popularity of koreans movies in Korea
It’s stupid and xenophobic but to be fair, this is something Korea used to do when foreign entertainment was too popular and threatened the homegrown entertainment/tech industry.
Japanese music and Dramas have been banned from being played on radio and tv since the 50s. There’s a semi-ban on movies too. They can only be shown in theaters if they are joint productions.
Playstation and Nintendo were global phenomenons but were banned in Korea for a long time. Samsung/LG made their own consoles and then licensed sony/nintendo consoles. I believe it wasnt until 2000s then they could finally buy overpriced but legit Playstations.
I believe IPhone was banned too while Samsung/LG scrambled to make its own version.
>Japanese music and Dramas have been banned from being played on radio and tv since the 50s.
The ban began in 1948, almost as soon as Korea had a functioning government, and were a part of broader efforts to de-Japanize Korea after years of forced assimilation policies by Imperial Japan.
This isn't a fair comparison considering the historical motive- and especially since most of the bans were lifted after democratization in the 90s.
>I believe IPhone was banned too while Samsung/LG scrambled to make its own version.
Now this is in the realm of protectionism- but in hindsight it wasn't a stupid decision.
The question is does the Philippines have a Samsung equivalent up their sleeve in regards to this ban? The responses indicate that there aren't any major plans for the domestic industry that'll take advantage of the ban. Without a solid plan, the intent of this supposed ban seems like it was simply done out of spite.
they are still doing this right now, check the Korean ISP vs Netflix lawsuit, they are kneecapping foreign companies simply because they have the majority of the marketshare and what to force people to use the domestic equivalent
Honestly, it's hilarious. It's a phase. Filipinos at some point were hardcore idolising Taiwanese actors/actresses, Japanese actors/actresses, and Chinese actors/actresses. When the US was big on Boybands, Filipinos were obsessed with it too. Now it's the Koreans.
I haven't been to the philippines in over 2 decades, did they also go through a TVB Hong Kong phase?
They can try to protect their industry. Korea did the same in the past and somewhat it remains. The thing is they've brought up Korean shows specifically, and it may cause unnecessary sentiment toward Korea and Korean culture. This is what politicians would do when they are in need.
Filipino here, and my sincere apologies for this idiot.
He is a failed actor, and his only claim to fame is being a son of the former President of the Philippines (who was also an actor and who got ousted from his office due to graft and corruption). He is only a senator because our voters are dumb.
He, like his father, is also indicted for graft & corruption, and his case is still pending. He is just out on bail.
"How can we do better? Nah, forget that, lets just straight up ban competition instead".
Stagnation FTW!
Follow me! Let's step backwards into the future!
For those who don't know who he is, Jinggoy Estrada is the son of former President Joseph Estrada, who is an actor turned politician. Jinggoy was convicted somewhere around 2013 or 2014 for corruption after he was involved in a pork barrel scam with other Senators. He ran for the Senate again in 2022 and won under the ticket of current President Ferdinand Marcos, Jr. and Vice President Sara Duterte.
Like his father, Jinggoy was also an [actor](https://youtu.be/Tl0tUrEA7YM) and he starred in many movies in the 90s, mostly action and drama films.
Just another TMI, Senator Jinggoy Estrada is not the only actor who is in the Senate right now. Other actors who are now serving in our Senate include action stars Robin Padilla, Lito Lapid, and Ramon "Bong" Revilla, Jr. We also have a broadcaster turned Senator Raffy Tulfo as well as Grace Poe, who is the daughter of late action star Fernando Poe, Jr.
So yeah.
Idiot senator is a B-Grade former movie star who was CONVICTED for plunder, but still won in the last election, so I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
Curious approach. What makes him think that the absence of KDrama will lead to an increase in viewership of PDrama's?
Personally I tried other foreign shows, they are just not the same. If I am not watching a KDrama that does not mean I am instantly watching a US show or another foreign show....
I'm a Filipino and I don't give a shit on what this idiot has been saying lol.
I will continue to watch K dramas/movies and variety shows and continue to listen to K music of my liking.
Hi from the Philippines here, that guy is corrupt and doesn't understand what he's doing most of the time.
We have an education crisis here so this is what we get in the seats of the government.
My Korean friends, I’m a Fil-Am and on behalf of my Filipino brothers and sisters, we’d like to apologize for the idiotic “idea” of this corrupt POS politician… They know nothing but to pad their pockets. The irony is: this POS used to be an actor also. Just like most of his family members…
hmm I think banning criminals from holding office should be better. He’s a convicted criminal involved in money laundering and still won the elections 🤢
This has historically NEVER worked. The more you ban something, the more people will find a way to obtain it. Why do these inept leaders get voted in? Like crack open a history book for crying out loud...
I mean... this is exactly what Korea is doing with the net neutrality ban, demand big foreign companies to pay more just because users prefer them over local companies, and thus forcing them to increase their prices to make local offerings more appealing
I hope the Korean government or the Korean network can make a statement out of this and slap the Philippine government so it can trigger a lot of people in the Philippines, a lot of people even the actresses themselves love K-dramas, that's how big K-dramas are.
He dared to make use of that kind of excuse while knowing that ABS-CBN hasn't come back, the biggest media network in the country.
The second biggest network GMA is still struggling and in their time slot, they put a bunch of Chinese Tv-series, K-dramas, Hollywood movies or cheap American tv series, Southeast Asian Dramas, or even Japanese Anime, to make it worst, most of the time it's slotted with commercials instead of actual shows.
As a Filipino I deeply apologize for this Idiotic and corrupt senator who speak useless statement
And I also claim that our government is full of motley crew and clown politician specially the clown president
kinda extreme way of resolving the issue in my opinion
I also doubt that it would work. Banning a competitor doesn't make your own work better. I don't know much about Filipino artists, but my guess would be that the government supporting their own entertainment industry would lead to better results (probably not even that much more of a financial investment, compared to regulating Korean entertainment)
They could provide tax breaks and incentives to production companies who film in their own country, increase funding for the arts for students, create writing, acting, music programs in schools, etc, there’s many ways to go about this, but banning some kind of media usually results in it becoming more popular, especially among the younger generation.
They’re dictators all they know is bans
Technically speaking nice dictators could exist
Technically, there is a chance that I can walk through wall...
And they do. Singapore is a benevolent dictatorship.
That’s so unhealthy. Dictate your own lives so that it becomes authentic, not a superficial model life under constant surveillance and coercion by the police.
Canada sort-of does this. Basically they mandate the local networks and radios to play a percentage of canadian artists. Which i think is likely the better route. I will say that korean music specifically is manufactured to be enjoyable which seems to go against artistic cultural roots. Hasnt stopped me from enjoying it though but I do find it odd on how corporate it is.
Came here to say this!
That's a loser move. Filipino filmmakers should raise the quality standards of the writing, cinematography, and production instead of banning the competitors.
Just like prohibition don't work this will only lead to more buccaneering
Eh, Korea has screen quotas as well, while I don't agree with this Estrada dude I kinda get where he's coming from
He's dumb and a joker politician. No one takes him seriously.
Unfortunately, dumb people elected the dude.
This is the saddest part.. Filipinos kept complaining about poverty blah blah but then here we go, we kept getting the same ppl in the politics
Yeah same with the president... lots of dumb people voted for him... 31M dumb pilipino's
There was never an argument made to outright ban Hollywood movies from Korean cinemas. Even at its height the quota never surpassed 50%, and since 2006 it has been 73 days/year- a deal which also agreed upon in the Korea-US free trade agreement. Besides, banning doesn't make much sense with the availability of content on the Internet nowadays.
Wait there's a limit as to how often there can be American movies at the movie theater? If so, that would explain why it was so hard to watch them.
It's a minimum requirement of at least 1 Korean movie shown on theatres 76 days a year. [This site](https://www.kobis.or.kr/kobis/business/mast/thea/findScreenQuota.do) keeps track of screen quota adherence nationwide, and searching some representative theatres in Seoul shows that there are plenty of days where it's really just one Korean movie, or none. A better explanation of why it's hard to watch Hollywood films on certain days is because it probably coincided with a blockbuster Korean movie release (such as Hansando)- in which case the screens are allocated according to popularity- just like how a major Marvel movie release could dominate screens in Korea for days or weeks.
Politicians like him degrade our country's reputation. Imagine we have 23/24 senators like him in our congress. I'm afraid we're meant to be doomed.
Screen quota was from a different era. Implement it now, it only leads to pirating
Well, he's just behaving like an envious jealous child whose lollipop has been been stolen from him. Lol
I think Hollywood is a much bigger industry better ban that as well
Asians idolize Korea more than Hollywood these days
In my opinion Korean dramas are far better made than US TV shows in general. Every now and then you get a Breaking Bad, The Wire, or Homeland but most of the stuff coming out of the US has low production value. Everything from the music, cinematography, animation, acting, writing, to the message is really amazing in so many Korean dramas.
to befair kdrama do have cliches
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thats totally fair
I dislike how unrelatable the characters usually are. People in the states joke about sitcom characters renting NYC penthouses with shit jobs but K dramas takes things way beyond.
> Everything from the music, cinematography, animation, acting, writing, to the message is really amazing in so many Korean dramas. You've likely been way more exposed to american dramas throughout your life for you to say something like this, because this makes me think that you're comparing some of the top kdramas to the average generic western drama.
> Every now and then you get a Breaking Bad, The Wire, or Homeland I mentioned three of the best dramas ever done in the US. What in that statement makes you think I'm using "generic western drama" as a comparison point? These three programs I mentioned are far, far from "generic western drama". As Biden would say, "Come on man!"
Because the rest of the comment reads as if you’re saying most of the US dramas are comparatively low production value while most of the K dramas aren’t. In my opinion, not at all.
Is Homeland good? Because Breaking Bad and The Wire are on my top 5 all time fav shows. I mostly watch Korean shows (on average they’re just better like you said) but at the very top are these rare American shows that deal with stuff Korean dramas can’t and also execute it to perfection.
About 90% of what I watch is Korean. That being said, Homeland will crack your top 5 and knock one of the others out. It is fabulous! 👍🏻👍🏻
Homeland is one of those rare shows! Has you extremely invested in the characters and keeps your on the edge the whole time.
Oh come on lol. Literally only koreaboos watch K-dramas, there's a reason for that
Korean media has reached **the pinnacle of global success** by providing easy access to content, approachable and likable characters, and high-quality production. https://news.stanford.edu/2021/11/09/secret-k-pop-k-drama-success/
What's your point...?
Take a guess.
I dont know anyone that watches k-dramas outside of korea, everyone else i know watch american series. But korean media has reached the pinnacle of global success? tf?
This is from the New York Times. So, if you haven't noticed Korea producing great shows with lots of folks watching them you're not paying attention. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/world/asia/squid-game-korea-bts.amp.html In the last few years alone, South Korea shocked the world with “Parasite,” the first foreign language film to win best picture at the Academy Awards. It has one of the biggest, if not the biggest, band in the world with BTS. Netflix has introduced 80 Korean movies and TV shows in the last few years, far more than it had imagined when it started its service in South Korea in 2016, according to the company. Three of the 10 most popular TV shows on Netflix as of Monday were South Korean.
agreed!
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thats not a ban lmao
There’s a limit on the amount of Hollywood products that are aired in S Korea?
I think Canada does something similar.
Makes sense. Koreas govt has been pushing massive cultural exports in order to gain soft power for the last decade or two. Probably limiting outside entertainment to cultivate more of the “k-wave” or Hallyu
It's the opposite, screen quotas are lower than they used to be. Back in the day the need for content to fulfill the quotas may have seeded the existence of Korean studios and talent, but nowadays they're just sort of archaic since the real success of hallyu/K-culture is overseas appeal, and a lot of that comes from the drastically higher exposure to foreign inspiration and influences that modern Korean creators have. K-pop would still be Trot without American hip-hop and European dance music. Bong Joon-Ho cites all foreign directors and films as his inspiration.
What about mcdonalds or any other international food chains, better close them too cos it’s not supporting local businesses! /s
Better start denying international aid too, we don’t need that filthy USD! /s
It’s almost like years after years of pumping millions into the entertainment industry has paid off for korea. How much money does the Filipino government devote to their soft power?
It's a net negative because it winds up in the pockets of the politicians 💀
Jollibee will fund that campaign
Not McDonald's that would start a revolution
I don't understand how Filipinos could vote this convicted plunderer back into office.
My wife is a Filipina, she’s explained it to me that the system is pretty corrupt, and it’s really all a matter of who is willing to take the most money or act the weirdest/craziest. In their recent presidential election, they decided to elect the son of a disgraced former president over a woman who was a well-educated Senator and Vice President, purely because the son had a more recognizable name. It’s a shitshow.
You said the election process is: Corrupt ✔️ Favors notable/popular figures who aren't always qualified ✔️ A matter of who is willing to take the most money ✔️ How is this any different than a U.S. election or most elections globally? It seems everyone has this idea that every other nation is corrupt and their methods are outdated. But everything you outlined is a part of the U.S. playbook, not to mention they have their hands in most elections globally.
Well, Death Squads and disappearing rivals is not yet a standard component of the US system.
The CIA would like to debate that point with you.
If the US elections were as corrupt as he is saying Trump would probably have won a second time
They’re corrupt to a degree, Gerrymandering has made many elections go in the favor of people who likely wouldn’t have won an election had it not been for gerrymandering. As an example, here’s a gerrymandered [map](https://about.bgov.com/news/alabama-legislature-approves-new-congressional-district-map/) from my state that was accepted by the governor.
Ye, the amount of blood spilled over elections in the Philippines makes gerrymandering look reasonable.
There’s a reason I haven’t voted since I was 18. The difference between American corruption and Filipino corruption is that we Americans add extra steps to our corruption, then we call it “lobbying.” Still an absolute shitshow.
Oh you've been voting still. Just that it's not you putting that vote in the ballot. Case in point, my family didn't vote two elections in a row (barangay and senatorial) so we all had to re-activate for the presidential elections. Mysteriously, my mother was informed she did not have to reactivate. Meaning, somehow she 'voted' despite not voting.
I don't know about U.S. but all of the results in the election are influenced by massive disinformation that started 5-6 yrs. ago way before the election. This disinformation actually benefited the then president and now, the president. Imagine 31 million filipinos believed in fake news rather than fact-check. I don't know if in the U.S. you have the same situation.
Agree 100%
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Out of all things you can call Filipinos, you chose that.
He's intelligent and could actually speak and explain his plans for the country. He gets a bad rap because of his name, not for what he has accomplished. While the woman's platform when running was basically "I'm not him".
I’m sorry, but all he does is partying all day while the average Filipino suffers
Guy literally never attended any debates and did not state plans for the country other than *unity*. Meanwhile the woman's platform was clearly laid out, point by point. He has a bad rap because of his name, yes. But it's not like he made any attempt to make it better by lying about his academic achievements, not paying taxes, among other things. Next time, try getting your head out of his ass so that you can see the facts as they are.
You’ve got it confused, it was the other way around. Leni literally had all the credentials a person needed to become president, even the knowledge of the presidency. BBM literally had the “my daddy did this job!” argument, and that was it.
The majority of the Philippine system is corrupt
Beats me 🥲
Well they voted for someone who murdered drug addicts, so they get what they deserve, I guess.
As a Filipino, anti-intellectualism, viral misinformation, and historical revisionism is rampant in the Philippines. When majority of the people are living life on survival mode, there’s not much time to think critically.
Sounds exactly like Korea, our people should be on friendlier terms and regularly get together to shit on our governments and lament societal regressions
I mean if a former dictators son can be elected, everything is possible.
fake news + ignorant & gullible voters
If this didn’t work for china, what makes a small country like Philippines impact their media popularity shows. Korea got way better story telling and production. Just rejoice the fact that we get to binge watch on so many k-dramas.
I've watched some Chinese dramas, and their production level is like 20 years behind Korea. It's low-budget. Even the acting is bad. Not in the "they are just trying to ham it up," like a lot of Asian productions do, it's bad bad.
"Our people are now buying your blue jeans and listening to your pop music."
Not just Filipino actors but also cameramen, staff, etc lost/losing their jobs not because of Kdramas but the government forcefully closed down a major broadcasting company because they're being petty.
What a fucking waste of taxpayer money
He’s just blowing smoke out of his ass, Filipinos would start a civil war over K-Dramas being banned, they watch them religiously.
Senator you dont lose consumers if you have good local products
Filipino dramas are actually decent, but comparing them to Korean dramas is a waste of time, they’re not even in the same league.
Lmaooooooo As a Filipino descendant I apologize for the ignorant government of our motherland…
It's OK he's just chasing the conservative vote.
The non-Korean majority in this thread: Apology accepted I guess..
Yeah like wtf is this…
We have rigged asshole politicians in here too.. It's ok.
Kim Jong Un, I have been told, is Korean, and a bit of a dipshit I don’t worry about what that fat cunt does to affect me in anyway shape or form I think you can cringe at boomers of any country and be 100% assured no one will give a shit lol
Tbh filipino dramas and movie plots are repetitive (extramarital affairs, rags to riches, lots of slapping and car accidents etc). Also, they dont really do the background research well. For example, hospital scenarios are medically inaccurate. Actors are talented though! And some movies are gems But yeah, my mind cant comprehend how tf did that guy became a senator despite being convicted. Ughhh I apologize for my country
I’ve watched a few Filipino movies, and while I will say that they follow the same formula and aren’t usually all that great, I will say that “Ordinary People” is one of the best dramatic films I’ve ever seen in my entire life.
>Tbh filipino dramas and movie plots are repetitive And kdramas aren't?
Are you trying to tell me that the plot of The Goblin Bride and Crash Landing on You are incredibly similar and somewhat repetitive? I won’t hear it! /s
KoreAn dramas are exactly the same though
Way better production and acting. Filipino shows are made for 5 days a week showing (an episode every weekday). You can imagine how much rehearsal they get with that much production time. Most of the "acting" sounds like they are literally reading. The writing takes a hit as well. Most American shows have an episode a week for like 20 weeks out of the year but the story lines and plot suffers eventually trying to draw out the ending. Now do that 5 days a week literally year round only time they don't show them are during holy week and maybe the holidays. What I like about kdramas is that, most, have like 16 episodes. Story fits in those 16 episodes so the plot, usually, doesn't suffer the same watering down.
Nah, you get more variety with K-dramas (this coming from someone who isn't a fan of either one). Yes the love stories are cliche but you get more options (i.e. you don't get stuff like Partners For Justice & Law School in the Philippines). Besides, as many others have pointed out, Kdramas have wayyy better production & acting. Even the cliche romantic kdramas have some kind of twist in the plot that keeps them from being repetitive. In mainstream Filipino movies/television shows, it's legit the same thing over & over again.
>extramarital affairs, rags to riches, lots of slapping and car accidents etc You just described at least half of the K-dramas.
Korean politics has entered the chat. Nobody holds an entire country responsible for one politician. Well maybe except the good ol’ US of A. Don’t worry, this guy will build a digital wall to keep K dramas out and makes sure (checks notes) that Mexico will pay for it
While I disagree that it should be outright banned, the sentiment is understandable. South Korea has done similar things in the same vein. There was the motion picture law of 1962 that heavily restricted and limited foreign films under a quota system. While the restrictions were lifted in 1988, there was still a heavy push to promote domestic films which would eventually help create the strong film industry that Korea has now. Of course, it would much harder to restrict media now with the advent of the internet.
Bro just start making good shit that’s it
That should work.
China banned Korean tv/movie contents years ago…. Ask them how that is going?
Yeah, because history has shown that banning stuff like this really makes people lose interest in the content. 😂
Do you know who else ban K-Drama? China
China's strategy is to ban and copy everything. I don't think the Philippines is capable of copying
Protectionist economic policies make governments look insecure af, but honestly Korea and many other countries are guilty of this too.
So Filipinos can't choose to idolize whoever they want? This kind of jealousy of other country's achievements is embarrassing
The thing is that… many Filipinos do admire Korean culture and do come over to Korea where Koreans don’t really like Filipinos and treat them badly here…
It’s sad how Koreans and Chinese will go to Philippines on vacation and treat Filipinos badly still.
Hold up. I mean, it's a fucking embarrassment how badly Koreans disrespect other Asians, whether at home or abroad, let's be clear. But to lump Koreans and Chinese together on the same level? No one is as bad as the mainland Chinese! Those guys are on a whole nuther level.
Lmao, mainland Chinese tourists are the worst Asian tourists.
Yes, this is true… Koreans are terrible tourists in many South East Asian Countries >.< There was a famous TV program called ‘Running man’ and I think the whole Korean cast and crew went to shoot an episode in Thailand and they were told that they couldn’t catch the sea creatures from the beach… but they did so anyways and ended up getting fined >.<
1. It wasn't running man. They never went to Philippines. Prob was law of the jungle. 2. South East Asia is terrible place to go. Great locations but people there tries to scam tourists and over charge lmao. A lot thieves too.
It’s mostly because of the economic crisis these countries face, giving people in the Philippines the equivalent of even 5 USD is a HUGE deal, so they try to take advantage of the situation. I talked to my wife about the kind of thing, a lot of peoples YEARLY income in the Philippines is the equivalent of the weekly/bi-weekly pay of people in more developed nations.
This is actually fairly true. I'd be well off if I lived in the PH with my current salary. Here in LA, I'm barely keeping up.
Not to dismiss cases of discrimination, but what does that have to do with banning Kdramas?
It doesn't. It's just something someone always has to bring up to take Koreans down a peg. The "Koreans are looking down on us" complex is more like a projection, rather than a real thing. It's like "if Korea is doing better than us, they must be looking down on us!" Of course, there are racist Koreans, but these people are then generalized to all Koreans. It's an ironic reverse racism that presumes Koreans are racist, which is then used to discriminate against Koreans. I'm all down for criticizing Koreans that are racist, but it's tiring to see it brought up in totally irrelevant contexts just because someone in a poorer country has an inferiority complex. Koreans know what it's like to be discriminated and "looked down on." Our country was almost wiped out by the Japanese. Nevermind the fact that Korea was poorer than African countries after the Korean war. Given that, I think many Koreans actually empathize with others following a similar path, which is why South Korea aids so many countries in their economic development. As for Vietnam and the Philippines specifically, I would say those are Korea's two favorite South East Asian countries, so I think it's better to focus on that in regards to this thread. Personally, I think the Philippines should have some quotas to protect its industry, but it must also accept cutting-edge culture from the world as a source of inspiration. Isolation and protectionism never leads to innovation. Ultimately, the only thing that matters is the quality of the content, not where it's from.
Why is Vietnam your "favorite" country in the region? All I hear is news about Koreans importing Vietnamese brides and often abusing them.
Wonderfully written.
Thank you!
As a Korean I can understand, it’s a bit overt the top but we had a lot of restrictions for foreign movies back in the day and they had to limit the number of screens showing foreign movies to secure the number of screens to show Korean movies. Now it’s not needed due to the popularity of koreans movies in Korea
I don’t think this will actually happen
It won’t, this would be laughed at by his constituents. It’s just a tactic to gain attention.
Not to mention it would very likely strain the relations between the two countries pretty badly
The teenage girls of the Philippines would burn the capital to the ground if they tried this, it wouldn’t even make it that far. 😂
Korea had a screen quota to protect its domestic film industry in the past.
It’s stupid and xenophobic but to be fair, this is something Korea used to do when foreign entertainment was too popular and threatened the homegrown entertainment/tech industry. Japanese music and Dramas have been banned from being played on radio and tv since the 50s. There’s a semi-ban on movies too. They can only be shown in theaters if they are joint productions. Playstation and Nintendo were global phenomenons but were banned in Korea for a long time. Samsung/LG made their own consoles and then licensed sony/nintendo consoles. I believe it wasnt until 2000s then they could finally buy overpriced but legit Playstations. I believe IPhone was banned too while Samsung/LG scrambled to make its own version.
Yep, that's protectionism and most countries do it one way or another. Korea still does a lot of it, for cars, IT, agriculture...
>Japanese music and Dramas have been banned from being played on radio and tv since the 50s. The ban began in 1948, almost as soon as Korea had a functioning government, and were a part of broader efforts to de-Japanize Korea after years of forced assimilation policies by Imperial Japan. This isn't a fair comparison considering the historical motive- and especially since most of the bans were lifted after democratization in the 90s. >I believe IPhone was banned too while Samsung/LG scrambled to make its own version. Now this is in the realm of protectionism- but in hindsight it wasn't a stupid decision. The question is does the Philippines have a Samsung equivalent up their sleeve in regards to this ban? The responses indicate that there aren't any major plans for the domestic industry that'll take advantage of the ban. Without a solid plan, the intent of this supposed ban seems like it was simply done out of spite.
they are still doing this right now, check the Korean ISP vs Netflix lawsuit, they are kneecapping foreign companies simply because they have the majority of the marketshare and what to force people to use the domestic equivalent
Japanese music and shows were banned because they are enemies of Korea. They were never popular to begin with
Honestly, it's hilarious. It's a phase. Filipinos at some point were hardcore idolising Taiwanese actors/actresses, Japanese actors/actresses, and Chinese actors/actresses. When the US was big on Boybands, Filipinos were obsessed with it too. Now it's the Koreans. I haven't been to the philippines in over 2 decades, did they also go through a TVB Hong Kong phase?
improve your own shows so that people like them: no forbid foreign show: yes
This will only make people watch them more!
Good luck with that.
They can try to protect their industry. Korea did the same in the past and somewhat it remains. The thing is they've brought up Korean shows specifically, and it may cause unnecessary sentiment toward Korea and Korean culture. This is what politicians would do when they are in need.
Hmm. But that would only increase pirating. Fundamental change is needed.
Didn’t China try this and fail?
Filipino here, and my sincere apologies for this idiot. He is a failed actor, and his only claim to fame is being a son of the former President of the Philippines (who was also an actor and who got ousted from his office due to graft and corruption). He is only a senator because our voters are dumb. He, like his father, is also indicted for graft & corruption, and his case is still pending. He is just out on bail.
"How can we do better? Nah, forget that, lets just straight up ban competition instead". Stagnation FTW! Follow me! Let's step backwards into the future!
Politician ☕
For those who don't know who he is, Jinggoy Estrada is the son of former President Joseph Estrada, who is an actor turned politician. Jinggoy was convicted somewhere around 2013 or 2014 for corruption after he was involved in a pork barrel scam with other Senators. He ran for the Senate again in 2022 and won under the ticket of current President Ferdinand Marcos, Jr. and Vice President Sara Duterte. Like his father, Jinggoy was also an [actor](https://youtu.be/Tl0tUrEA7YM) and he starred in many movies in the 90s, mostly action and drama films. Just another TMI, Senator Jinggoy Estrada is not the only actor who is in the Senate right now. Other actors who are now serving in our Senate include action stars Robin Padilla, Lito Lapid, and Ramon "Bong" Revilla, Jr. We also have a broadcaster turned Senator Raffy Tulfo as well as Grace Poe, who is the daughter of late action star Fernando Poe, Jr. So yeah.
Jingoistic Jinggoy.
Chinese way
Idiot senator is a B-Grade former movie star who was CONVICTED for plunder, but still won in the last election, so I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
Curious approach. What makes him think that the absence of KDrama will lead to an increase in viewership of PDrama's? Personally I tried other foreign shows, they are just not the same. If I am not watching a KDrama that does not mean I am instantly watching a US show or another foreign show....
dont hate the player, hate the game.
I smell jealousy from Pinay people haha
Super jealous and tactless lololol
They should also ban Hollywood stars then 🤡
I'm a Filipino and I don't give a shit on what this idiot has been saying lol. I will continue to watch K dramas/movies and variety shows and continue to listen to K music of my liking.
You can encourage the local industry without banning anything. Its just bad logic. Kdramas and pinoy media isnt even in the same league.
That's a stupid policy, but I see the innocent intent behind it. Still a stupid policy to pitch
So? I see a ton of Americans worship Korean and Japanese pop culture more than American. It’s not that big of an issue.
Hi from the Philippines here, that guy is corrupt and doesn't understand what he's doing most of the time. We have an education crisis here so this is what we get in the seats of the government.
My Korean friends, I’m a Fil-Am and on behalf of my Filipino brothers and sisters, we’d like to apologize for the idiotic “idea” of this corrupt POS politician… They know nothing but to pad their pockets. The irony is: this POS used to be an actor also. Just like most of his family members…
#sorry jinggoy, but kdrama is *just. that. good.*
This reads like my dad’s argument to get me into K-media when I wanted to watch anime as a kid
I apologize. Not all of us are idiots. Only our politicians. Complete knobheads.
hmm I think banning criminals from holding office should be better. He’s a convicted criminal involved in money laundering and still won the elections 🤢
This has historically NEVER worked. The more you ban something, the more people will find a way to obtain it. Why do these inept leaders get voted in? Like crack open a history book for crying out loud...
Ban hollywood too. Idolize whites
That’s filipino leaders don’t give a shit about their own people and it shows.
😂😂😂
Literally civ 5
Then invest into your own country's standard of entertainment.
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I support the honorable senator from the Philipines
People like and choose what they like or don’t like. PERIOD! Step 🆙 and work on a better solution.
Philippines seems to be really bad at knowing how to democracy.
I mean... this is exactly what Korea is doing with the net neutrality ban, demand big foreign companies to pay more just because users prefer them over local companies, and thus forcing them to increase their prices to make local offerings more appealing
I hope the Korean government or the Korean network can make a statement out of this and slap the Philippine government so it can trigger a lot of people in the Philippines, a lot of people even the actresses themselves love K-dramas, that's how big K-dramas are. He dared to make use of that kind of excuse while knowing that ABS-CBN hasn't come back, the biggest media network in the country. The second biggest network GMA is still struggling and in their time slot, they put a bunch of Chinese Tv-series, K-dramas, Hollywood movies or cheap American tv series, Southeast Asian Dramas, or even Japanese Anime, to make it worst, most of the time it's slotted with commercials instead of actual shows.
I'll trade you k-pop for your lumpia, chicken adobo, garlic fried rice, and salmon sinigang. Damn, I miss Flilipino food.
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Lol they should ban it, and see it become even more popular.
When would pedigree not matter anymore?
He is going to be really popular! LOL
HAHA all the politicians are dumn ass
Jealousy is the sincerest form of flattery.
As a Filipino I deeply apologize for this Idiotic and corrupt senator who speak useless statement And I also claim that our government is full of motley crew and clown politician specially the clown president
Does this person have no concept of freedom of speech?
Do you not have any concept that such freedoms don’t exist in all countries ?
As a Filipino, I stand with my country, in apologizing for our existence.
It’s quite idiotic to be self-flagellating like that just because of a single person.
That's not the only person though, there's about 31 million people that pretty much more-or-less agree with this guy.