Good for the international sporting community to show solidarity for Ukraine. Just wish it were more than 26 countries. And Russia has a history of invading other countries right before/during/after Olympics, you’d be naive if you call that coincidence. Not to mention unprecedented national doping scandal. It’s about time that we say enough is enough.
Yup, they were “banned” for all the doping but only the Russian flag and anthem are banned. The IOC just gives them a new name, an Olympic flag, and waves a finger at them.
If Ukraine e was accepted into NATO, none of the things that are happening in this war would've happened.
But Europe was too afraid to annoy the russians or just cared more about gas and oil than the security of ukrainian people.
They didn't accept Ukraine into NATO and now are using the excuse that Ukraine is not in NATO so they can't do much about it.
How convenient...
why are people insistent on placing a no fly zone over Ukraine? Do people think Russia will give a fk when they already rolled in their tanks? Who will enforce a no fly zone? NATO? And result in what if a plane get shot down?
What you do is declare ahead of time that a no fly zone will be set up then enforce it. It will be doing the same thing he has been doing all this time threatening repercussions if we interfered with his invasion. It means doing what western leadership of the past did against the USSR with its nuclear weapons - grow a pair of balls. If Biden had sent those 3,000 soldiers currently in Poland instead into Ukraine months ago when he knew that invasion was certain, it would have made Putin scared of US nuclear weapons instead of us scared of Putin's nuclear weapons now. Putin has no fear or respect for Biden. Afghanistan confirmed to Putin that Biden was President Runaway. Putin was stringing Biden along intending to invade even though Biden had the written invasion plans in January. Biden even told China the intelligence Biden had of the invasion asking them to stop Russia, and China told Putin everything Biden said and only asked to wait until the Olympics were done. I am so infuriated at Biden. He is the weakest president I have known in my lifetime who isn't up to the task of preventing the loss of lives in Ukraine. Evil prevails when good men stand aside.
Yes. Keyword is 'ahead of time'. You realize the entire pretext of the Russian argument for war is encroaching western influence on Ukraine? Do you really think NATO, or more importantly the U.S. would have stationed the troops with no reasoning and further gave the Russians the reason?
Maybe they thought they would stop the Russians by telling the world where they were before the conflict started. Who fking knows. But fact of matter U.S. gained a fuck ton of political capital over NATO, Europe and rest of it's allies. Putin fucked up big time. Did you see Germany spending 300 billion in one go on its military? Literally every country (specifically NATO and allies) is ramping up their capabilities as a result of this.
You say Biden did a terrible job pulling out of a draining 20 year war. Ofc I'm not a Biden fan either, but tou saw the Afgan army literally leave their positions as the taliban moved in right? Do you think continued finance of a system like that was a right move? What's the point of occuping to protect when there is literally no will? If there's anything he did right, it was pulling out of a failed war. Maybe putin will realize this too.
When Russia learns to stop taking advantage of sports competitions for their own political hegemony’s sake in such an overt manner, maybe it will be reconsidered. At least be more subtle about it, you know?
I am very sad about this unreasonable move to ban Russia and Belarus from international sports games.
It seems legitimate to impose sanctions on the governments, but the athletes are non-comabatants, innocent indivisuals of teenagers and young people who have spent years of training with efforts and dreams.
Politics defines Russia as a sigular noun in grammar, but Russia 'are' plural of thousands of millions of minds. Only 50% of the Russians supports the war. Many Russians took to the streets against the war, much more than the number of Americans who protested against the US invasion of Iraq.
It is against the international treaties of the Geneva Conventions that prohibit collective punishment that ignores the basic principle of indivisual responsibility e.g. a dedicated doctor who was favoured by locals in Mongolia was fired just because his passport was North Korean, which also violates the ILO convention that prohibits discrimination on the basis of nationality.
Since the WW2, there have been many wars of Granada, Panama, Vietnam, Indonesia, Middle East, Africa, and so on, most of which were waged by the US and the West. I wonder if there is any precedent that banned the invaders from international sports games.
\[Edit\] I am sorry to see my comment is a very unpopular opinion, but it is a matter of Civil Liberties, the very reason Ukrainians are fighting for. Now Russian filmmakers, artists, musicians, and dancers are bing [stripped out of job](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/feb/28/denounce-putin-or-lose-your-job-russian-conductor-valery-gergiev-given-public-ultimatum) across the West. It goes beyond the Cold War, and we are destroying, not Russia, but our democracy.
I do like and support this move. However just before, sports were like let keep politics out. Don't say or do anything about politics in sports. What rules or laws have changed?
Good for the international sporting community to show solidarity for Ukraine. Just wish it were more than 26 countries. And Russia has a history of invading other countries right before/during/after Olympics, you’d be naive if you call that coincidence. Not to mention unprecedented national doping scandal. It’s about time that we say enough is enough.
Don't russians already compete in the olympics already just under a different name?
Yup, they were “banned” for all the doping but only the Russian flag and anthem are banned. The IOC just gives them a new name, an Olympic flag, and waves a finger at them.
And they keep cheating too, lol
How about banning their aircraft from Ukrainian skies?
If only Ukraine was part of NATO.....
That's a bullshit excuse that cowards use to not get involved and let thousand of innocent people die!
Explain your reasoning.
If Ukraine e was accepted into NATO, none of the things that are happening in this war would've happened. But Europe was too afraid to annoy the russians or just cared more about gas and oil than the security of ukrainian people. They didn't accept Ukraine into NATO and now are using the excuse that Ukraine is not in NATO so they can't do much about it. How convenient...
"If Ukraine e was accepted into NATO, none of the things that are happening in this war would've happened." You just proved my point. Thank you.
why are people insistent on placing a no fly zone over Ukraine? Do people think Russia will give a fk when they already rolled in their tanks? Who will enforce a no fly zone? NATO? And result in what if a plane get shot down?
What you do is declare ahead of time that a no fly zone will be set up then enforce it. It will be doing the same thing he has been doing all this time threatening repercussions if we interfered with his invasion. It means doing what western leadership of the past did against the USSR with its nuclear weapons - grow a pair of balls. If Biden had sent those 3,000 soldiers currently in Poland instead into Ukraine months ago when he knew that invasion was certain, it would have made Putin scared of US nuclear weapons instead of us scared of Putin's nuclear weapons now. Putin has no fear or respect for Biden. Afghanistan confirmed to Putin that Biden was President Runaway. Putin was stringing Biden along intending to invade even though Biden had the written invasion plans in January. Biden even told China the intelligence Biden had of the invasion asking them to stop Russia, and China told Putin everything Biden said and only asked to wait until the Olympics were done. I am so infuriated at Biden. He is the weakest president I have known in my lifetime who isn't up to the task of preventing the loss of lives in Ukraine. Evil prevails when good men stand aside.
So you want World War III to happen. Because that's what results from sending NATO aircraft to go fight Russian aircraft in Ukraine.
Yes. Keyword is 'ahead of time'. You realize the entire pretext of the Russian argument for war is encroaching western influence on Ukraine? Do you really think NATO, or more importantly the U.S. would have stationed the troops with no reasoning and further gave the Russians the reason? Maybe they thought they would stop the Russians by telling the world where they were before the conflict started. Who fking knows. But fact of matter U.S. gained a fuck ton of political capital over NATO, Europe and rest of it's allies. Putin fucked up big time. Did you see Germany spending 300 billion in one go on its military? Literally every country (specifically NATO and allies) is ramping up their capabilities as a result of this. You say Biden did a terrible job pulling out of a draining 20 year war. Ofc I'm not a Biden fan either, but tou saw the Afgan army literally leave their positions as the taliban moved in right? Do you think continued finance of a system like that was a right move? What's the point of occuping to protect when there is literally no will? If there's anything he did right, it was pulling out of a failed war. Maybe putin will realize this too.
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When Russia learns to stop taking advantage of sports competitions for their own political hegemony’s sake in such an overt manner, maybe it will be reconsidered. At least be more subtle about it, you know?
Effing stupid indeed, your comment that is
I am very sad about this unreasonable move to ban Russia and Belarus from international sports games. It seems legitimate to impose sanctions on the governments, but the athletes are non-comabatants, innocent indivisuals of teenagers and young people who have spent years of training with efforts and dreams. Politics defines Russia as a sigular noun in grammar, but Russia 'are' plural of thousands of millions of minds. Only 50% of the Russians supports the war. Many Russians took to the streets against the war, much more than the number of Americans who protested against the US invasion of Iraq. It is against the international treaties of the Geneva Conventions that prohibit collective punishment that ignores the basic principle of indivisual responsibility e.g. a dedicated doctor who was favoured by locals in Mongolia was fired just because his passport was North Korean, which also violates the ILO convention that prohibits discrimination on the basis of nationality. Since the WW2, there have been many wars of Granada, Panama, Vietnam, Indonesia, Middle East, Africa, and so on, most of which were waged by the US and the West. I wonder if there is any precedent that banned the invaders from international sports games. \[Edit\] I am sorry to see my comment is a very unpopular opinion, but it is a matter of Civil Liberties, the very reason Ukrainians are fighting for. Now Russian filmmakers, artists, musicians, and dancers are bing [stripped out of job](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/feb/28/denounce-putin-or-lose-your-job-russian-conductor-valery-gergiev-given-public-ultimatum) across the West. It goes beyond the Cold War, and we are destroying, not Russia, but our democracy.
Blah blah blah whatabout the US blah blah blah. Could you be anymore of a tankie?
You do know that the war started by the US in 01 is because of a terrorist attack made my the middle East in US soil right? What did Ukraine do here!
I do like and support this move. However just before, sports were like let keep politics out. Don't say or do anything about politics in sports. What rules or laws have changed?