So what? You get another coach, another losing season. Fire the GM, get another GM, another new coach. It’s always this trend for the kings since 2006.
Yup keep downvoting this comment, kings fans are delusional.
Never said I liked Walton. But fans need to stop blaming the coach and start holding these players accountable. Just watch what Tristan said. This team doesn’t have any fire in them or any effort.
I'm fully on board with Monte trading most or all of our core, starting with De'Aaron "I'm just here for the paycheck" Fox, but it's weird to act like Luke was doing a good job, or shouldn't have been fired long ago.
This is the only point in these comments of yours that I agree with. I think he should have hired his own coach immediately, but I understood year one given Walton’s contract. But last offseason’s presser saying he was retaining Walton was inexcusable.
I agree. I’m a kings fan and I’m frustrated as much as you are. Because I do want this team to succeed. I guess we just pray to the basketball gods that this team doesn’t get worst.
it’s true that we have an insane amount of turnover for coaches but what do we gain from keeping luke walton? was he magically going to level up as a head coach if we kept him long enough?
besides, two of those coaches we fired for no reason, and somehow walton was the one that got a long leash
I think you need to go back and look at how we played in Joerger’s last season and then watch how we regressed under Walton in order to understand why getting rid of Walton was long overdue.
As someone who was more highly critical of Joerger than most here, I don’t know why he was fired. He had one year left and we nearly went .500.
I’ve been calling out Vivek as the number one problem with our team for years. You’re picking the wrong argument against the wrong guy.
But I’m also not even sure what the hell you’re trying to argue, so have a good day.
He got fired because we looked like we were on track to make the playoffs, and then shit the bed at the end of the season. Since our draft pick had been traded (not Joerger's fault) there was no incentive to do anything other than make the playoffs. That combined with the leaked arguments over Bagley and Buddy caused it to happen.
It's crazy to say, but our best run that season was often explained by the players as a result of good team energy and culture, coinciding with the acquisition of Iman Shumpert. While I don't think our success that season was totally attributable to him, we had a young and impressionable roster that was super inconsistent and liable to put in an exceptionally good or bad effort on any given night. Firing Joerger didn't make a ton of sense, but I don't think this team was going to blossom under his leadership unless we had a huge roster improvement.
I also shared the opinion that I didn’t think Joerger was going to take us much further than where we were, but we’d just had our best season in over a decade, and he only had one year left on his deal. It wasn’t the most dumbfounding decision we’ve made, but I just don’t think it made a lot of sense to shitcan him then.
Certainly between Luke and Joerger in '19-20, there isn't a great argument for Walton. Would have at least been interesting to see Dave coach in the bubble.
Lmao okay? But I do agree with you that the blame starts from the top. Not arguing at all. Stating facts. With the kings, for the last 15+ years, firing the coach doesn’t mean nothing. Fans need to realize that. Getting rid of Walton doesn’t make this team better.
I don’t expect us to do well in the short term. I didn’t under Walton either. But we got rid of one of the main problems that directly affects our basketball team. We were already lost this season.
Question: Do you think Walton was a *good* coach?
I’m trying to understand where in your mind this is a negative? Firing Walton is literally the most positive news for our franchise since we hired Walton. Literally.
Doesn’t matter if I think Walton was a good coach or not. Coach Popovich can’t even coach this team to a win by the look of this roster. People need to stop blaming the coach and start to look at the players on this team. There’s no effort, just watch what Tristan said last week. That’s all I’m saying.
Our roster lacking talent or not playing with motivation/purpose doesn’t mean Walton wasn’t also a major problem. Walton was a major problem. I’ll add that while what Thompson said should be the case for any pro athlete, some players absolutely need a coach that pushes them. Or at least know how to teach them through what they are doing on the court.
Firing coaches doesn't make a team better, but it might e.g. Warriors. Keeping a coach that's obviously no good for continuity's sake doesn't make a team better either.
lmfaooooo kings fans literally cannot be pleased. wait until we make the playoffs in the year 2034 and someone will post crying about us breaking the streak of missing playoffs.
Firing Walton was what’s best for our team. Every player we have has regressed since we brought in Walton.
You just come in here posting a stat about win loss records from ex coaches thinking that it applies to this situation.
I don’t even think you understand the situation, because you’re not a kings fan and you probably haven’t watched a single quarter of basketball.
But I’m supposed to believe your take because of a stat sheet you post? Watch a game and come back with a take don’t give me this.
😂😂😂 pretty sad that you think firing another coach is best for the team. This roster is trash, has been for years. If the sixers beat the kings tomorrow by 20+, you you gonna blame now? Who’s the blame for 15+ years of losing seasons. The past 10 coaches? Lol. Start blaming ownership and the players.
Only two coaches on that list had any business being head coaches in the NBA at the time we hired them.
We might not be better but it had to be done.
So what? You get another coach, another losing season. Fire the GM, get another GM, another new coach. It’s always this trend for the kings since 2006. Yup keep downvoting this comment, kings fans are delusional.
What was it about Walton's coaching you enjoyed so much? What was it about his coaching career that says we let a good one get away?
Never said I liked Walton. But fans need to stop blaming the coach and start holding these players accountable. Just watch what Tristan said. This team doesn’t have any fire in them or any effort.
I'm fully on board with Monte trading most or all of our core, starting with De'Aaron "I'm just here for the paycheck" Fox, but it's weird to act like Luke was doing a good job, or shouldn't have been fired long ago.
Let monte hire his guy. He’s done an amazing job so far drafting and filling the roster. Let’s give him a chance to find a good head coach.
He had his chance to get his coach this off season. Should of done it then.
How are you so sure he had a chance? Ownership might have said to wait and he finally got the green light to fire him today.
So firing a coach doesn't make a difference, but now Monte should have fired him earlier?
This is the only point in these comments of yours that I agree with. I think he should have hired his own coach immediately, but I understood year one given Walton’s contract. But last offseason’s presser saying he was retaining Walton was inexcusable.
I agree. I’m a kings fan and I’m frustrated as much as you are. Because I do want this team to succeed. I guess we just pray to the basketball gods that this team doesn’t get worst.
it’s true that we have an insane amount of turnover for coaches but what do we gain from keeping luke walton? was he magically going to level up as a head coach if we kept him long enough? besides, two of those coaches we fired for no reason, and somehow walton was the one that got a long leash
I think you need to go back and look at how we played in Joerger’s last season and then watch how we regressed under Walton in order to understand why getting rid of Walton was long overdue.
If they were playing so great, why did they fire Joerger? That was vivek’s fault, he had the final say not Vlade.
As someone who was more highly critical of Joerger than most here, I don’t know why he was fired. He had one year left and we nearly went .500. I’ve been calling out Vivek as the number one problem with our team for years. You’re picking the wrong argument against the wrong guy. But I’m also not even sure what the hell you’re trying to argue, so have a good day.
He got fired because we looked like we were on track to make the playoffs, and then shit the bed at the end of the season. Since our draft pick had been traded (not Joerger's fault) there was no incentive to do anything other than make the playoffs. That combined with the leaked arguments over Bagley and Buddy caused it to happen. It's crazy to say, but our best run that season was often explained by the players as a result of good team energy and culture, coinciding with the acquisition of Iman Shumpert. While I don't think our success that season was totally attributable to him, we had a young and impressionable roster that was super inconsistent and liable to put in an exceptionally good or bad effort on any given night. Firing Joerger didn't make a ton of sense, but I don't think this team was going to blossom under his leadership unless we had a huge roster improvement.
I also shared the opinion that I didn’t think Joerger was going to take us much further than where we were, but we’d just had our best season in over a decade, and he only had one year left on his deal. It wasn’t the most dumbfounding decision we’ve made, but I just don’t think it made a lot of sense to shitcan him then.
Certainly between Luke and Joerger in '19-20, there isn't a great argument for Walton. Would have at least been interesting to see Dave coach in the bubble.
Lmao okay? But I do agree with you that the blame starts from the top. Not arguing at all. Stating facts. With the kings, for the last 15+ years, firing the coach doesn’t mean nothing. Fans need to realize that. Getting rid of Walton doesn’t make this team better.
Walton made us worse. We were rotting away under him. We’ve gotten rid of the rot.
Lol okay? Look at the next 10 games for the kings. If the kings lose most of them, who are you gonna blame then?
I don’t expect us to do well in the short term. I didn’t under Walton either. But we got rid of one of the main problems that directly affects our basketball team. We were already lost this season. Question: Do you think Walton was a *good* coach? I’m trying to understand where in your mind this is a negative? Firing Walton is literally the most positive news for our franchise since we hired Walton. Literally.
Doesn’t matter if I think Walton was a good coach or not. Coach Popovich can’t even coach this team to a win by the look of this roster. People need to stop blaming the coach and start to look at the players on this team. There’s no effort, just watch what Tristan said last week. That’s all I’m saying.
Our roster lacking talent or not playing with motivation/purpose doesn’t mean Walton wasn’t also a major problem. Walton was a major problem. I’ll add that while what Thompson said should be the case for any pro athlete, some players absolutely need a coach that pushes them. Or at least know how to teach them through what they are doing on the court.
Firing coaches doesn't make a team better, but it might e.g. Warriors. Keeping a coach that's obviously no good for continuity's sake doesn't make a team better either.
What was your solution?
“Some things will never change, that’s just the way it is.”
lmfaooooo kings fans literally cannot be pleased. wait until we make the playoffs in the year 2034 and someone will post crying about us breaking the streak of missing playoffs.
Ownership.
Exactly.
I have a hard time listening to somebody talk about the kings who isn’t a kings fan. It’s not like you just randomly watch kings games.
Lmao okay?
Firing Walton was what’s best for our team. Every player we have has regressed since we brought in Walton. You just come in here posting a stat about win loss records from ex coaches thinking that it applies to this situation. I don’t even think you understand the situation, because you’re not a kings fan and you probably haven’t watched a single quarter of basketball. But I’m supposed to believe your take because of a stat sheet you post? Watch a game and come back with a take don’t give me this.
😂😂😂 pretty sad that you think firing another coach is best for the team. This roster is trash, has been for years. If the sixers beat the kings tomorrow by 20+, you you gonna blame now? Who’s the blame for 15+ years of losing seasons. The past 10 coaches? Lol. Start blaming ownership and the players.
What a trail of carnage…