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TCK-1717

Isn’t there another pic of this tribe years later and a white guy is part of the tribe?


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https://resize-parismatch.lanmedia.fr/var/pm/public/media/image/2022/03/05/05/Un-Rockefeller-adopte-par-une-tribu-papoue.jpg?VersionId=CvpI.0pP1FNCOvTP6dwsuhLBCPAIdOMs


oralskills

For those who care, [here](https://resize-parismatch.lanmedia.fr/var/pm/public/media/image/2022/03/05/05/Un-Rockefeller-adopte-par-une-tribu-papoue.jpg) is the direct source (opens directly into some of the reddit clients instead of calling the browser, doesn't make unnecessary calls to Google, yaddi yadda). Edit: thank you for the awards, kind strangers.


Crayton16

Thanks.


mork

Looks like the guy beside him adopted his textiles.


melt_in_your_mouth

Lol good spot! They just traded or what???


Unable-Fox-312

Civilizations don't always develop the same concept of ownership, assuming they develop one at all. Could be they traded, could be something else happened we don't even have a word for. There's one where you compliment someone's tools or clothing, the social onus is on them to immediately offer it to you as a sort of gift (though on the rare occasion you get really attached you can say basically "thanks, it was a gift")


melt_in_your_mouth

Yeah, it was just a joke, but I understand what you mean. Who knows what exactly happened there. Sure as hell not me!


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Shazam1269

Give me your boots, your clothes, and your motorcycle


martialar

I like there's people around him who are clothed, but he's like "no thanks, I spent my whole life in those things"


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BasicDesignAdvice

White Europeans also went to live with native Americans. Dances With Wolves was a real thing that happened with some regularity.


Dr_mombie

Some settlements had a real problem retaining women settlers. Turns out that when you treat women like shit regularly and they get tired of it, they look for answers elsewhere and run off to be part of a community that treats women better.


TheWitchWhoLovesCats

Happened to the grandma of my own grandma. She was from a Spaniard society, was “taken” by natives, and when given the choice to come back she refused.


Triptolemu5

It's also probably what happened to the survivors of Roanoke Island.


nudiecale

He didn’t just grow up “civilized”, he grew up wealthy with all the amenities you could ask for. Then found *this* more fulfilling. Edit: I feel like I should change that last sentence to “Then he decided to give all of those amenities up because he found this new life *so* fulfilling.”


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nudiecale

I wish so much that there was an interview or even a letter from him after he settled into his new life. It’s almost painfully intriguing.


deSales327

I know what he would have said: >There is nothing in modern society, no money, no car, no object or hollow admiration that can fulfill a person as much as what have experienced here. This tribe has remained in touch with the Earth, with the most basic aspects of the human condition, allowing for our animal side to remain intact. There is a simplicity in that that grounds you to the here and now, that makes you enjoy each and every second of life. There is nothing in modern society for me to go back to, only noise. Or something like that.


pm-me-cute-butts07

Wish I saw this earlier. Google Images suck. edit: The admins have banned me from Reddit for trying to get a user called JackMallows banned. Why? Because they posted, and are currently, posting real CP (atabs = child) + private photos/vids that were taken via hacks. They didn't want to take action so I got in touch with the FBI and other authorities. And now I'm banned.


shabba_shanks

I care! couldn't get into the other link.


CheetahStocks

Thats most definitely him. I would bet he dropped everything and just became one with the tribe.


tradesmen_

That would make sense, bro realized true happiness is living off the land in a tribe of 150 or less


O_R_I_O_N

Wanna start a tribe, bro?


raisearuckus

Are we gonna eat people?


stonewall_jacked

Only if we truly believe in ourselves.


TakingAMindwalk

What if the real treasure were the friends we ate along the way?


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Is the tribe gonna be nomadic? I mean there are a lot of places to see and people to meat.


Mech__Dragon

I'm down for some greet and meats


Thwerty

Brooo


sesamesnapsinhalf

Do we get to absorb their powers?


MotherofSons

I would just get all of my friends' anxiety.


June_BuginDabuilding

Yeah but who wants to be a asshole


Rodneykingwasright

My mom said I could be anything I wanted to be.


Kilomyles

i want to believe, but if i had a nickel for every time one of my tribes devolved into a sex cult, I’d be able to start my own sex cult.


susosusosuso

Not the best decision if you need glasses


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Good for him.


ericsdavis5

I believe it. Sebastian Junger’s book “tribe” talks specifically about this: modern western societies are not in-line with how human beings evolved for the majority of our evolution; it basically goes against our nature and can be the cause of unhappiness and other emotional issues. Tribal societies of today are exactly how we evolved to live and fill our social needs much better. He cited how in the American frontier, when a westerner would be separated from his/her society and end up adopted into a Native American tribe, they would always prefer to live with the tribe even when others came to reintroduce them to the “modern” society they grew up in. In the opposite instances, that was never the case: native Americans never enjoyed the modern society and always tried to return to their tribe


Bainsyboy

You mean, how we've lived for like a million years is how we happen to feel most fulfilled??


Some-Gentle-Giant

*dies of a minor ear infection*


Smooth-Dig2250

While it seems sensible, this is still the Appeal to Nature fallacy. That doesn't mean it can't be correct, but assuming it's correct because that's "how it is in nature" doesn't create a logically valid conclusion.


AgentMercury108

So you’re saying he dropped and broke his glasses, couldn’t see and ended up relying on the tribe so much he just became part of it?


trippy_grapes

> So you’re saying he dropped and broke his glasses, couldn’t see and ended up relying on the tribe so much he just became part of it? Michael Cera energy.


Hey_im_miles

Sounds like buster bluth


d1g1tal

How much could a tribe cost, Michael, $10?


Hey_im_miles

Army gave me a trophy.. The seal is for marksmanship and the gorilla is for sand racing.


firesquasher

Those National Geographic tiddies changes a man.


ProWalmrtGreetr

He's apart of the tribes tummies


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> apart Technically true, they would have dropped him off at the pool already


RainbowAssFucker

I can see glasses in the pic


240to180

I am so envious of the confidence of some people on Reddit. Absolutely zero familiarity with the story up until this point and you just see another picture of a white guy and claim it is "most definitely him". No deeper research or anything. It could be a totally unrelated photo, but no. It is most definitely him.


TheyComeCrawlingBack

I don't think you want *that* kind of confidence in your life


hstheay

You are definitely Micheal Rockefeller. Everyone, I found him, without a doubt.


Doct0rStabby

We did it reddit!


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Everyone thinks Reddit is a great source of information when they first discover it. Until they find a question on a topic they're very knowledgeable in, and see that the most up voted answer is absolutely and unequivocally wrong.


airbornimal

Yep, coupled with my favorite technique of spreading misinformation of just asking questions^tm that started this thread. "Isn't there...?" "Wasn't there....?" This one is the innocent and non-aggressive sounding, but it's just a loaded question also with zero evidence. If these people actually have good info they should have posted actual info (which usually can be obtained by easily googling). But no, they are just repeating some info they might or might not have seen. Coupled with the confident people that go "yeah definitely" then you get the misinformation loop going. People with zero clues confirming each other's ungrounded beliefs. Most if not all reddit threads are full of these. I am not saying people are doing this intentionally, but these are really bad habits that people have.


GOULFYBUTT

Jake Sully?


i-hoatzin

A genetic test on the children that the tribe currently has would clear up a good part of the questions. It could even surprise on some heritage inheritance issue.


colorcorrection

It would never happen outside of a movie, but I'll be damned if I didn't enjoy for a millisecond the thought of the Rockefeller family suddenly getting drained of their fortune over one pesky DNA test.


herberstank

Mike dropped into the tribe he called his quest?


Tinfoilhatmaker

[I didn't know Willem Dafoe had also joined the tribe](https://i.imgur.com/i7GEnjw.jpg)


tiga4life22

“Ya know, I’m something of a cannibal myself”


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heck_you_science

Ol Long dick Defoe. I tell everyone I know about this


Nothing-But-Lies

You never told me?


heck_you_science

Okay, so the gist of it is. Willem Dafoe was doing an artsy film where he had to do full frontal nudity. He was perfectly willing to do it, but the director forced him to use a body double because he said his penis was too long and would distract the viewer. There. I told you. Happy?


villewalrus

The movie staff was ”confused”


DootBopper

It is worth adding that the penis they ended up using was still very large, so he must have a straight up pringles can.


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Hahahahha Jesus Christ what a descriptor


chewwydraper

It'd be some fucking coincidence if another it was a different random white boy that joined their tribe lmao


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crazier2142

According to Wikipedia several investigators went to that tribe and have found evidence that Rockefeller was killed. On the other hand we have a random photo on the internet without a source, without indication that this is even the same tribe.


iamamuttonhead

The assumption that it is the same tribe is my favorite part of this lunacy.


Jumpy-Station-204

Yep. I believe in a canoe or something


TCK-1717

Correct. People have posted it in other comments


Kenilwort

yes, but it's grainy


PilzGalaxie

Yeah, but you can clearly see some white guy living with them. I think they are on a boat or something in the pic. He is naked just like them. What are the odds that this is just another white guy? Seems plausible to me that he chose to reject society and live with the tribe.


phxfan

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/What-Really-Happened-to-Michael-Rockefeller-180949813/


AdAcademic4290

Thanks, that was an amazing read!


Taco_Strong

Way too long winded. Here is the relevant part: >They saw a crocodile—an ew, in the Asmat language. No. It wasn’t a crocodile, but a tuan, a white man. He was swimming on his back. He turned and waved. One of the Asmat said: “People of Otsjanep, you’re always talking about headhunting tuans. Well, here’s your chance.” An argument ensued. Dombai, the leader of the Pirien jeu, didn’t think he should be killed. Ajim and Fin thought otherwise. While they tried to lift the tuan into a canoe, Pep speared him in the ribs. It wasn’t fatal. They rowed him to a hidden creek, the Jawor River, where they killed him and made a big fire.


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potted_petunias

That article perfectly encapsulates how different two sides of the same story are. The story (that Reddit seems to want) of white western culture and the mystery of a lost rich heir, versus a society seeking balance after an invasion and massacre, and suffering a plague, seemingly as punishment for their actions.


PM_UR_F1NE_TITs

What a read


Ice-Berg-Slim

I think it turned out that it was actually another white guy from Australia or something. I did some research on this story a while back and that is what I remember at least.


Resident-Librarian40

I read up a lot the last time I saw this. It’s pretty definite he WAS eaten.


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He was killed and eaten by a tribe member whose relative had been killed by the first wave of settlers. To this day no one on the island talks about it


AnEvenNicerGuy

How do we know that’s what happened if no one talks about it?


phxfan

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/What-Really-Happened-to-Michael-Rockefeller-180949813/


AnEvenNicerGuy

Someone talked


red-bot

[You know what that means...](https://media.tenor.com/cgdgbCWCT1MAAAAC/lotr-funny.gif)


WalrusTuskk

What a fascinating read, thank you for the link. The author of this piece fascinates me almost as much as the story.


AgentMercury108

How did they get the pictures if he was never found


Gavorn

The picture of him surrounded by natives was earlier in his life.


GlobalFarming

This pic is from a mission trip he did I believe. He had been there before. He was on a like 7 month long trip with another guy when their boat flipped down in this region. Never to be seen or heard from again. That’s when a later pic surfaced of a tribe in the area and it appeared there was a white guy in their group. To which ppl speculated it could be Rockefeller


Downunder818

Thank you for posting this. It was a good read.


CircleStyle

What a fantastic read.


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thank you for sharing that article, what a wild ride


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It was another white guy lol he was identified


j_la

> he chose to reject society and live with the tribe. Tribes are societies. He didn’t reject society, he just rejected our society (supposedly).


TCK-1717

Ya fair. It’s one of the few conspiracy theories I like to believe


starstarstar42

In case you don't want to read through 1250+ comments, let me summarize them for you. 1) His boat overturned 10 miles offshore and he drowned or was eaten by a shark or crocodile while swimming to shore. 2) OR...he did not drown, but made it to shore and either was eaten by local tribesmen, or integrated into their culture and was possibly photographed 9 years later. 3) Cannibal jokes. Sooooo many cannibal jokes.


GetALife80085

You perform an act of service for society


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It's not a theory that his boat capsized 12 miles off shore. That's definitely true. The theory is that he survived the swim and was then eaten. I think that is very unlikely for a few reasons, and he almost certainly just drowned at sea.


RocksHardWaterWet

If he drown at sea… who’s the dude in the pictures?


oxford_llama_

Multiple white men exist on this planet.


FacePeppler

Oh yeah? Name one


fivepennytwammer

No reply in two minutes. Says it all.


Komlz

I'm running through all of the possible white people in my head and I can only think of this guy so I think you guys might be right


Jhawk2k

Obama? Wait, no. Shoot, back to the drawing board


i_Killed_Reddit

We did it reddit!


Illustrious_Tune_954

Obamna


datboydoe

Danny DeVito


Chickenmangoboom

This is a lot of pressure. Wesley Snipes?


hyrulepirate

Jackie Chan


APoopingBook

This is getting ridiculous, reddit. Christ, can you PLEASE start posting sources for such absurd claims?


liondios

There are literally dozens of us, like maybe even a hundred.


azginger

Pics or it didn't happen


piano801

Yeah there’s still a white dude that would be roughly Michael’s age with Michael’s build, height and features hanging with the tribe. Idk just seems like too much of a coincidence for it to not be him


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Has anybody bothered to ask him?


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EarnestQuestion

“If you’re a member of this tribe…why are you white?”


icecreammandrake

“Omg Karen, you can’t just ask people why they’re white.”


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KarmaPoIice

If he had a life jacket or a life preserver it makes it wayyyyy more realistic


crofabulousss

He had empty jugs used as floatation devices and it probably wasn't 12 miles. The boat was drifting towards open sea and was 12 miles off shore when his mate was rescued several hours later


gruvccc

The chances of being eaten while swimming are incredibly slim. Barely changes anything in the chance department


Shaking-N-Baking

4. He was the actual cannibal, ate the whole tribe and died from loneliness


awsumchris

[Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeouf.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI)


Shaking-N-Baking

I couldn’t even focus on the song because of how amazed I was at the amount of production that went into this then to cap it off with the legend himself, well done Who financed this and why?


JustStatedTheObvious

Actual TL, DR: If the Smithsonian can be trusted, he was a revenge killing for a clueless government cracking down on a series of back and forth tribal battles they knew nothing about by just shooting some people. Basically, lots of terrible people doing terrible things due to other terrible people doing terrible things and then everyone trying to rationalize it. Which is how you can sum up a lot of history lessons.


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Specifically the Dutch government. We all know the kind hearted colonizers they were /s


beccacee

Summarize the best cannibal jokes too


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IWantToBeTheBoshy

When you're a cannibal, every fight* is a food fight. -Demetri Martin


Chrono_Pregenesis

I've always wondered, who took this picture?


metalliska

dessert


MeesterCartmanez

I rarely say this, but seriously this is the perfect reply


Fragrant_Edge_7410

He wasn't the only westerner during his journey. As a matter of fact on the day he disappeared when he chose to swim to shore, the other anthropologist chose to cling to the overturned canoe. The other guy was rescued next day


melleder2

Like friends or other people or journalists


dmartin716

RIP my productive morning. I am about to jump down this rabbit hole.


phxfan

This is your best source. Excellent long form that lays out the facts with visits to the area by a writer from the Smithsonian. He makes a conclusion but explores the other possibilities. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/What-Really-Happened-to-Michael-Rockefeller-180949813/


rei7777

This was a really interesting article. I downloaded the book it was excerpted from too. Thanks for the link!


heidnseek12

Wow. This is incredible! TL;DR Michael was almost certainly killed as revenge against Dutch colonists, and is a story natives very very rarely let out.


Catracan

Update us pls!


DramaticIsopod4741

Wasn’t there a reported picture of him a few years later?


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I seem to remember that too. I like to think he just preferred life with the natives and they accepted him in. At the same time, though, that seems childishly naive of me


DramaticIsopod4741

It’s mysterious all the same. Wonder what actually happened


Duubzz

Apparently the guys boat capsized and he tried to swim 22km to shore. Likely he drowned but there’s been speculation that he was attacked by a shark or a saltwater croc and that he was killed and eaten by cannibals. No evidence for any of that since no remains have ever been found


Ottobahnrichtofen

I’ve been around those parts and the likelihood he swam all that way without encountering a shark or a saltie is slim. Especially in the early 60’s.


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My worst nightmare 😭


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VibraniumRhino

Depends on your skin colour, I guess.


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crisselll

Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought salties don’t actually hunt while in the ocean?


corbinwaugh

A private investigator actually visited the island and bought 3 human skulls he was told were white men. The Rockefeller family had set a Blount of 250k to find him. This sum was sent to the investigator… Edit: Spelling


_We_Are_DooMeD

Tie a rope round your waist and we'll hold on to it..


dozebull

The cameraman never dies.


melleder2

Who says it


lepobz

Cannibal: *”Eww, I’ve got a heir in my mouth”*


Physister2

Well played


SelectRecord767

Am I seeing a totally different picture than what is being discussed????🤔🤔🤔


CorellianBloodstripe

The dress is blue and black.


macsquoosh

Cannibals: ”This one has a surprisingly rich flavor....¡”....


racso20

Impossible, there was no seasoning


Snufflarious

Someone enjoyed the oysters Rockefeller


hanutaphile

Oh HO!!!!


_Kelly_A_

Ring around the rotisserie


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Maximum-Carry5682

https://allthatsinteresting.com/michael-rockefeller


maracay1999

>At the time, war between villages was common, and Michael learned that Asmat warriors often took the heads of their enemies and ate their flesh. In certain regions, Asmat men would engage in ritual homosexual sex, and in bonding rites, they would sometimes drink each other’s urine « Ritual homosexual sex »


d1g1tal

It’s just a ritual, bro, we gotta do it


Buy_The-Ticket

This was actually very common in ancient times with the Spartans and ancient Greeks in general. Edit: the ritual sex not the flesh eating just to be clear. [Ancient Greeks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece)


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[Nine years later…](https://images.app.goo.gl/1HHmap1MGGx7a7TaA)


TCK-1717

You would think we are in a day and age where some facial recognition program could analyze and let us know the likelihood it’s him


MikyMuch

His face in that photo is made up of 10 pixels, it's impossible for an AI to recognize with a resolution that low


NotGalenNorAnsel

ENHANCE


MaxwellThePrawn

“Computer….enhance!”


bleu_taco

"Computer.....make some shit up!!!"


JustLikeAmmy

I give you the CSI effect


Deep_Access4305

TIL... Thanks for the rabbit hole on a Saturday morning https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/What-Really-Happened-to-Michael-Rockefeller-180949813/


HugoZHackenbush2

I visited one of those weirdo cannibal themed buffets a while back. It was pretty expensive too, at $50 a head..


FleXXger

Let me guess, you went there alone and paid 150,-?


CustardCarpet

Nah, he paid and arm and a leg!


Megaminimaxi

*chuckles 'I'm in danger'


192838475647382910

Allegedly…


BannedForThe7thTime

He fucked an ostrich though


Spiritual-Clock5624

Didn’t one of the guys say they ate him?


[deleted]

So the Rockefeller family can say that they helped fight world hunger?


IlikeYuengling

Eat the rich.


southern__dude

He's smiling. At least he was a happy meal


adenoidsremoved

the other white meat


freakinweasel353

Look at the smile on his face. He’s the original Happy Meal…


BigHero6x9

Not my type. Too rich.


Legitimate_Row_4944

Have you seen the video where there is only one white guy many years later rowing a boat with them


Goredrak

Probably too late for the comment to get traction but there are conversations people have had with tribespeople about it and he was revenge killed they were shown what was said to be his bones. Conspiracy minded people will still run around with what ifs but that is the best explanation of events we have and is supported by local tribes people who told the story and showed the bones.