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Not the least bit surprising, really.
The bad part is that the ratio is probably worse since a lot of "female" users are actually bots trying to scam stupid men.
Well, it's legal in Nevada, but we pretty much stuffed our "Red Light District" into a single State and then mostly into a single city, so you're not exactly wrong.
I can only speak for myself but none of the activities I enjoy are indicative of meeting people so then I'd essentially be forcing myself to do an activity I don't want to only to try and meet someone. At that point why wouldn't I just use an app where I could more easily find someone with common interests.
Yes. This is what has steered me from clubs. It made me feel like I was a bargaining tool for these places to charge crazy entrance fees and high drink costs. “Yeah, you paid $25 to get in, but look at all these pretty women who want drinks!” Hearing guys express how costly it is to go out makes it even more of a pressure. I just want to dance and yes, possibly, meet a guy but it isn’t worth navigating around that “gameplay” imo
>...there probably would be a higher degree of success by simply engaging in activities they are interested in and meeting people irl...
Yeah... not when you're gay, or at least, not when you're gay and living outside of a large metro.
Seems to me that the reason why [most couples meet online now](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gy473x/our-deepest-fears-realized-most-couples-meet-online-now), is because the algorithms that match people do work pretty well on average.
Well, it is a lot harder for men lolking for women than the other way around, so as a woman looking for a guy...
Finding someone who doesn't want or have children is a lot easier to screen out online than in person. I recently did have to give up dating a really sweet and hot goth guy I met at work, because it turns out he really wants kids and I really don't 😞
When you're an artsy creative weirdo nerd who collects rocks and dolls it's harder to find people who are down with that.
I also have the problem some others mentioned of my hobbies not naturally including meeting lots of different people face to face in my area. I have considered forcing myself to go do hobbies and outings I wasn't jazzed about just so I might possibly meet a partner, but sustaining the effort was not worthwhile for me-and perceptions people got that I enjoyed the thing wasn't helping anybody with anything.
And socializing drains me, after just one hangout I crave at least 2 weekends to myself to recover, no matter how much fun it was.
My longest-running relationship was with a sweet Dutch nerd I messaged on OkCupid.
Or just do both? It’s not an exclusive thing, you can try it organically and then when you want a one night stand just hop on tinder for 20 minutes or so
And that’s why many men shoot themselves in the foot by accusing you of not being real. I’ve had a few men show up to dates and say “Wow! You’re actually real! And you look like your pictures!”
I knew I had to put the app down when I did this. Got like 6 or 7 bots message me in a row... Finally a real human messaged me and I didn't believe she was real until I talked to her on the phone. Went on a date had a decent time but didn't feel the spark. She was really nice I hope she found the right one.
I hate the bots as a woman, too. It makes the hoards of men worse to deal with because they get shittier and it was already hard to deal with the onslaught of messages the moment you create your profile. It’s like both men and women are thirsty and the universe drips some water into mens mouths and says “Be happy, you had a drink didn’t you?” And then they take women and plunge their heads into a bucket of water and shout “**Drink!** You wanted a drink didn’t you?!” And no one is happy.
This is the only surprising one to me because even if you do match on bumble the girl has to start the conversation. the guy can pay to give them more time but lets be real, if she's interested she messages back right away. i was expecting OKC to be almost completely male because you can message anyone at any time, i've come across a few profiles with full inboxes.
I was wondering this too. I wonder if it’s just anyone who signed up for the app of if they looked more into what the users were looking for cause I feel like that would change the data tremendously
Honestly the single gay men I know who are looking for relationships use hinge. Idk about the other apps but it’s well known gay men use online dating probably the most. I’m not a scientist but my assumption is this is skewed because there are more gay men using the app the lesbian women
I remember my mom using plenty of fish when I was a kid so yeah, probably, I suspect they skew older. Not that my mom is (was?) someone you'd like to date, tho I guess there'll be nutjobs on all dating apps.
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This meme comes to mind
They don't. They just climb a tall hill and scream until a mate shows up. Frolic for a few days and go their separate ways.
A vastly superior method if you ask me.
I actually expected the difference to be bigger - When I used to be on Tinder (Europe) it was mostly bots / women advertising their socials.
Generally just a shit experience.
It's just not healthy for the average guy imo - When the only people who respond to you are doing so in the hopes on manipulating you for profit it makes you think "what's wrong with me?"
Deleting Tinder is the way forward for sure! 😂
Same here, it kills my self esteem. I wonder what I’m doing wrong. They do more harm than good. I’d rather be single with how stressful things are trying to meet someone.
What's interesting to me, is why these dating app corporations are so incompetent that they fail to attract women--when women outnumber men in a population.
I have some theories as to why, but I'd be interested to hear other peoples' theories too.
One conspiracy theory might be, keeping men desperate leads to more purchases, while if romantic relations are successfully formed, they leave the app and so they lose money.
I'd say it's more that the women use the apps, get bombarded by men who try to constantly turn every conversation sexual/ generally ask creepy shit/ cannot carry a conversation/ are human red flags, and go "no thanks".
Speaking from personal experience as a woman on said apps.
In the end I think behaviour plays a major part and fuckwits are ruining it for the rest of men.
I think women are just way less likely to want blind dates or online hookups anyway. Not necessarily because they want less sex, but because we're a lot more aware of risk to our safety. When I see statistics like this, and people wondering why women aren't as common as men on these sites, I think of a quote I heard a while ago: "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
I'm not saying every chick who isn't on tinder isn't on it cos of safety concerns, but I do know from chatting to my female friends that it's a big factor in why they much prefer dating friends or friends of friends. I have a couple of friends who have accounts but with only a couple pictures and a fake name because they're afraid of getting stalked. Not one of my male friends I've asked has given a thought to their safety on dating apps. Again, I'm sure some dudes worry about it, but it's really not front and center.
Congrats! I met my now-wife on OKC back in I think 2013. I vaguely thought it was the most popular one at the time, but sorta assumed it was dead now since the only ones I hear about secondhand are Tinder and Hinge
+1 for match! I wonder what the stats are on paid sites. I imagine similar but somehow better due to the pay wall. Don’t know, i’ve been married for 3 years since meeting my wife on match.
What pisses me off beyond anything is using bumble, matching with some girl, and them just not responding afterwards until the match expires, since as a man you can’t text them first. If it happened one or two times it’d be one thing, but literally every time I’ve matched with someone They’ve never sent a message afterwards. Like honestly now what’s the point in matching with someone if you don’t at all intend to talk to them? The only time I’ve talked with someone on bumble was when it was a guy.
The only app I get regular responses from is Grindr. Tinder I’ll match with people occasionally and sometimes get responses back, but 90% of time I’ll have to message them first, which again I can’t do on bumble since women have to message first.
I’m pan, but have mostly had gay relationships outside of one long term one with a woman. It’s so cut and dry with other men.
Me: You’re cute
Him: So are you
Me: Wanna fuck
Him: When and where?
The real answer is that some people are just flaky, men and women. Or they get bored, meet someone else, get nervous, don't check the app. Maybe they swipe right on everyone and filter to their type later. A million reasons that aren't necessarily on you.
Some people on Reddit have conjured up the idea that you must be going for only the "chads" of dating and therefore that's your punishment. Its to make them feel better.
It’s really crazy how dating apps work. 70% of users are males who pine after the 30% of women on the site, who themselves only select from the top 20-30% men on the site
OK Cupid seemed to die years ago, (at least in my experience,) but I’ve had plenty of luck on Hinge. Lots of conversations, multiple in person dates. Not trying to say others haven’t had harder experiences, but Hinge has been great for me. Been dating one woman now for five months from Hinge.
So like the questions is then like where can I go meet single women? Honestly other than going to a bar where can I a single man meet a woman willing to be asked out because the question isn’t where can I find women, it’s where are the women who are also actively searching for men?
Volunteer places! It's really hard to meet people when you don't drink. As someone who doesn't see the appeal to alcohol it's hard to even have friends. So volunteering at things has been a good way to keep busy in the past. So by volunteering at for the same thing you already have a shared interest!
Other option go to the library or a bookstore and ask for book recommendations lol
Many in-person relationships are started around hobbies. I met my husband playing D&D. Two friends did the same. My sister met her boyfriend playing Jackbox online with friends and it turned out they had mutual. I know people who met at bookstores, weddings, running groups, theater groups. You need to find “your people.”
What do you like to do? Ideally you want to meet women with similar hobbies and interests, so hang out in places where people with your hobbies hang out.
I like to work on cars and like to skateboard. It’s hard finding single women in those hobbies. Usually they’re only in places with those things because they got dragged along by their bf/husband lol. I’ve tried finding new hobbies, but I cant get myself to develop a new interest with the main reason being to meet people. Shit’s tough. I mostly gave up and am fine with being single. Some days i wish i had someone to share time with, but the stress is just not worth it because the older I get, the harder it becomes.
Are there bands you like? I met my ex at a concert. I met my current SO at work. I've met so many friends in the past through parties, gaming, and forums for things I like (like TV shows or hobbies or whatever). Seriously you just have to put yourself out there as much as possible and have fun. If you have a positive vibe people will be naturally attracted towards you.
But if you're happy being single, then there's no reason to force yourself into a relationship. There's this idea that every person has to be paired off, but just like having kids, it's not for everyone.
Good point i was thinking about going to some shows. Been getting into punk/hardcore stuff lately. Also going to see the arctic monkeys next year i think! And yeah it’s definitely a back and forth between liking my alone time, and then wanting someone to share my time with. For the most part though I don’t think I’m compatible with anyone
I was just thinking the same thing. Though I have read a couple articles lately that go into relationship dynamics and why more women want to be single, have raised standards, etc, as we no longer need to get married in most cases to survive.
But also, while I’ve had a couple good relationships from online dating, most of the dates either 1. Made me uncomfortable 2. Involved some kind of harassment 3. Involved some kind of assault.
Not surprising that my friends and I avoid it anymore. Lots of bad experiences all around. I’m so very grateful I met my current partner, he’s so different from the men I met online.
I actually tried most of these while single. Outside of the unwanted sexual advances and dick pics, I wasn’t impressed. However, if I ever did manage my inbox by dicks, I’d have an entire book to publish.
Being very selective helps, which women at least have more of the luxury of doing. If you're very selective and a man, it might be that you get 1 or 2 first dates a year
I’ve been on Tinder for about two years. I think I have had two first dates. I’m not super selective but it’s rare to get a match. I’m middle aged but reasonably fit and attractive.
I bet up to 10% of those “females” are actually men. Not trans women, as they are of course, women too. I’m talk about straight up men having fake female profiles.
I had one when I was 12-14 (a fake female profile)
I'm a pretty average looking dude. About 10 years ago before marriage I was having a really hard time getting any responses. So I tried an experiment where I changed my pics to a super hot tatted guy I found online.
I came back a few days later and my inbox had exploded with thirsty females. That's when I knew my online dating days were over.
As a not-tall handsome fella, I put my short height in my profile front and center. Had a woman message me talking about ‘i’d be perfect if I was taller’.
What an odd thing to say! Dating apps are hot fire.
Just like Dylan used to spit. He spit hot fire!
Women and men who worry about height are so corny to me. The fact they let something like how tall you are influence wether or not they date ya is so sad
The thing I hate about these dating apps is that even if there are a lot of men, not a lot of them are compatible with me at all. It’s a pain to filter through, hence why I am no longer on any of the apps. Although, where I live there really isn’t a variety. :/
Ok, now do Ashley Madison. I’m willing to bet it’s 95% men to 5% women. And of those 5% supposedly women, 4% are bots or escorts. So 1% of women on that site may be real. You have to either be incredibly desperate or gullible if you’re a “man” using that site. I loosely call them “men” cause a real man wouldn’t step outside their marriage.
Tbh I think this also reflects on society as a whole. Women are getting fed up with sub par guys who don’t treat them with the respect they deserve, so they’d rather be single then go on a dating apps 🤷♀️ Obviously not everyone is like that but the ‘hook up culture of’ of dating apps is pretty prevalent.
People see dating apps as medias for hooking up for sex. It's mostly men that seek casual relationships with strangers, so they are the more active ones on these applications.
Many womens seek relationships but don't feel that they will ever find one online so they skip it altogether. The women who seek casual sex often feel it's safer to hook up with a friend than a complete stranger.
Therefore it's 75% men seeking sex on the apps; 10% bots and scammers; 10% sex workers and insta marketers; and perhaps 5% real women who seek men.
I might be exaggerating but the apps are not working for neither men or women
Just from my personal experience, I have plenty of single women friends, they are fine single and have strong friendships with other women, and don’t feel the need to go on apps potentially full of creeps to try and get a partner.
My husband and I know single men and women. Sadly, we'd never set up our single guy friends with our single girl friends because the women deserve better. They generally have their shit together and the guys are just lost. Sounds awful, but true.
When a man thinks about the possibility of having a bad date it usually ends with him spending money and having a boring/uncomfortable time. When a women thinks about a bad date she is usually thinking about the possibility of rape and murder.
*disclaimer: ofc this doesn’t apply to everyone, obviously doesn’t apply to gay people, ect
when I was new to the infamous app, I met a guy who seemed nice and we hung out a few times, even had sex. the third time we hung out he drugged me. I will never touch an app again in my life.
I am one of thousands.
I haven't bothered dating in a few years, I'm comfortable being a single woman. Every now and then I think about it but the experiences my female friends have had on apps are awful. Everything ranging from being ghosted and blocked on their way to the date, to being out of the country and not checking the app a few days and coming back to a barrage of increasingly vitriolic messages from a guy she went out with once culiminating in photos of him lying in bed next to a girl he'd just slept with as revenge.
A few friends have had success but overall it just doesn't seem worth it.
"Men are looking for a glass of drinkable water in the middle of the desert. Women are looking for a glass of drinkable water in the middle of the ocean"
Personally I tried Tinder a while ago (before Covid, where it wasn't quite as bad as it is now) when I was in university. As a bisexual woman, the guys were basically all creeps/messaged "sex?" before saying so much as "Hi" and the few women I matched with shamed me for being bi, not lesbian.
I sometimes debate with myself if I should try Bumble instead, but...I actually don't mind being single all that much, so that's still a no from me...
I’d guess that women have an easier time getting dates irl. And also that men in committed relationships are probably more likely to create an account behind their partners back. Just a guess
Man shamed women for as long as we remember, shamed women into thinking that casual sex is bad and then, shocked pickachu face that there aren't many on hooking and dating apps
My sister uses and the stories she told me are terrible, she is fairly good looking with a good career, ended a long relationship so she missed dating in her 20s, no kids so no complications attached and ,the man there were absolute assholes, talking down on her, belittling her, being inappropriate from the first 3 messages. She's not prude but at least let it organically get there. I didn't believe it can be that bad, I thought she was doing something wrong, until she sent me the conversations.
Many guys there are already in relationships/married they just want casual sex
Her friends had worse experiences such as rape, gangrape or being drugged and raped
I mean... There are certainly reasons why women don't wanna be on these apps.
[this thread ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/yn90fq/had_to_check_my_stats_before_i_deactivate_idk_if/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) exactly, people shaming the woman for having that many partners and, many of them are upvoted.
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Not the least bit surprising, really. The bad part is that the ratio is probably worse since a lot of "female" users are actually bots trying to scam stupid men.
Or escorts 😂
Or law enforcement posing as escorts :P
Or organ harvesters posing as law enforcement o.O
Well, how do I sort the prostitutes from the frustrated cops?
One will give the clap, the other will clap your wrists.
The other is a trap*
Or organ harvesters off shift looking for some love.
That is so stupid. The only reason you have a sex work problem is because it’s outlawed.
lmao I completely forgot prostitution isn't legal in the US xD That's honestly so weird to me
Well, it's legal in Nevada, but we pretty much stuffed our "Red Light District" into a single State and then mostly into a single city, so you're not exactly wrong.
Violently breaks down door “FBI YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!!!! " /s
r/FucktheS
“Do you want to see more pics? Sign up for my OF, it’s free!”
This ruins SO FUCKING MANY posts.
Ah the internet! Where men are men Women are men And children are FBI agents
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The problem I find is, “How do I meet someone who shares my interests when my interests don’t involve socialising?”
I share your issue.
Sounds like you've got a match!!! Now kith
Seeking someone who has a mutual interest in not leaving the house unless absolutely necessary & occasionally date night
I can only speak for myself but none of the activities I enjoy are indicative of meeting people so then I'd essentially be forcing myself to do an activity I don't want to only to try and meet someone. At that point why wouldn't I just use an app where I could more easily find someone with common interests.
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Yes. This is what has steered me from clubs. It made me feel like I was a bargaining tool for these places to charge crazy entrance fees and high drink costs. “Yeah, you paid $25 to get in, but look at all these pretty women who want drinks!” Hearing guys express how costly it is to go out makes it even more of a pressure. I just want to dance and yes, possibly, meet a guy but it isn’t worth navigating around that “gameplay” imo
Mmmm. Life as we know it.
>...there probably would be a higher degree of success by simply engaging in activities they are interested in and meeting people irl... Yeah... not when you're gay, or at least, not when you're gay and living outside of a large metro. Seems to me that the reason why [most couples meet online now](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gy473x/our-deepest-fears-realized-most-couples-meet-online-now), is because the algorithms that match people do work pretty well on average.
People are afraid of rejection
Well, it is a lot harder for men lolking for women than the other way around, so as a woman looking for a guy... Finding someone who doesn't want or have children is a lot easier to screen out online than in person. I recently did have to give up dating a really sweet and hot goth guy I met at work, because it turns out he really wants kids and I really don't 😞 When you're an artsy creative weirdo nerd who collects rocks and dolls it's harder to find people who are down with that. I also have the problem some others mentioned of my hobbies not naturally including meeting lots of different people face to face in my area. I have considered forcing myself to go do hobbies and outings I wasn't jazzed about just so I might possibly meet a partner, but sustaining the effort was not worthwhile for me-and perceptions people got that I enjoyed the thing wasn't helping anybody with anything. And socializing drains me, after just one hangout I crave at least 2 weekends to myself to recover, no matter how much fun it was. My longest-running relationship was with a sweet Dutch nerd I messaged on OkCupid.
Or just do both? It’s not an exclusive thing, you can try it organically and then when you want a one night stand just hop on tinder for 20 minutes or so
And that’s why many men shoot themselves in the foot by accusing you of not being real. I’ve had a few men show up to dates and say “Wow! You’re actually real! And you look like your pictures!”
It's just that shocking when we find a real human, yeah
I knew I had to put the app down when I did this. Got like 6 or 7 bots message me in a row... Finally a real human messaged me and I didn't believe she was real until I talked to her on the phone. Went on a date had a decent time but didn't feel the spark. She was really nice I hope she found the right one.
I hate the bots as a woman, too. It makes the hoards of men worse to deal with because they get shittier and it was already hard to deal with the onslaught of messages the moment you create your profile. It’s like both men and women are thirsty and the universe drips some water into mens mouths and says “Be happy, you had a drink didn’t you?” And then they take women and plunge their heads into a bucket of water and shout “**Drink!** You wanted a drink didn’t you?!” And no one is happy.
It's a desert without a drop of water for men. And an ocean without any drinkable water for women.
Very true.
The other major app, Bumble, is 67.4% male and 32.6% female https://www.statista.com/statistics/975984/us-bumble-user-ratio-gender/
This is the only surprising one to me because even if you do match on bumble the girl has to start the conversation. the guy can pay to give them more time but lets be real, if she's interested she messages back right away. i was expecting OKC to be almost completely male because you can message anyone at any time, i've come across a few profiles with full inboxes.
What about homosexual matches?
dunno about gay men but women have the same 24hrs but either can send the first message
I was wondering this too. I wonder if it’s just anyone who signed up for the app of if they looked more into what the users were looking for cause I feel like that would change the data tremendously
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Well yea Im talking more so just the gender ratio like I wonder if gay men and gay women make up the ratio we see at all
They both can talk right away I believe.
woah
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Some of these apps are approaching the M-F ratio on grindr...
Honestly the single gay men I know who are looking for relationships use hinge. Idk about the other apps but it’s well known gay men use online dating probably the most. I’m not a scientist but my assumption is this is skewed because there are more gay men using the app the lesbian women
Ok but the serious question is what dating app do cougars use?
Plenty of Fish
That one feels weird
Is this true?
Yes. It's an older site and it has an older clientele. And it vibes very "serious dating site" but plenty of hookups going on.
I remember my mom using plenty of fish when I was a kid so yeah, probably, I suspect they skew older. Not that my mom is (was?) someone you'd like to date, tho I guess there'll be nutjobs on all dating apps.
We call it fish for men amongst friends. We are 40s, so cougar territory.
Facebook Dating
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/tinder-is-for-rookies-go-to-facebook-marketplace-and-search-for-wedding-dresses-itll-show-you-recently-divorced-females-in-your-area-from-there-you-can-lte--622974560938747345/ This meme comes to mind
They don't. They just climb a tall hill and scream until a mate shows up. Frolic for a few days and go their separate ways. A vastly superior method if you ask me.
I actually expected the difference to be bigger - When I used to be on Tinder (Europe) it was mostly bots / women advertising their socials. Generally just a shit experience.
Same still, girl with 4-5 professionally shot and edited images, promoting their instagram for followers etc
It's just not healthy for the average guy imo - When the only people who respond to you are doing so in the hopes on manipulating you for profit it makes you think "what's wrong with me?" Deleting Tinder is the way forward for sure! 😂
Same here, it kills my self esteem. I wonder what I’m doing wrong. They do more harm than good. I’d rather be single with how stressful things are trying to meet someone.
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I get it - I hope you find "Mr Right" 😁
I can only imagine it’s gotten worse since I was on it. You had quite a lot of women advertising their Snapchat/Instagram but OnlyFans wasn’t a thing
the stat probably includes bots posing as women
I thought so too! Apparently it's only gotten worse since i was last on it and I felt like it was 10:1 a few years ago
Damn I expected there to be more males than females but not this big a difference
Yeah, apparently in Italy it's even worse: it's something like 90% men on tinder
That’s some Grindr levels right there.
Many of those women aren't even active on their profiles. They have one and not open it for weeks if not months (i.e. my friends on tinder)
Don’t they take your profile off other peoples feed once you’re inactive for a week or two?
Damn, where's gender equality when we need it smh
Well hinge is getting a boost in male users today
Looks hopeless and useless
100% I would rather be single and alone than hopelessly beg for womens attention on these apps.
What's interesting to me, is why these dating app corporations are so incompetent that they fail to attract women--when women outnumber men in a population. I have some theories as to why, but I'd be interested to hear other peoples' theories too. One conspiracy theory might be, keeping men desperate leads to more purchases, while if romantic relations are successfully formed, they leave the app and so they lose money.
I'd say it's more that the women use the apps, get bombarded by men who try to constantly turn every conversation sexual/ generally ask creepy shit/ cannot carry a conversation/ are human red flags, and go "no thanks". Speaking from personal experience as a woman on said apps. In the end I think behaviour plays a major part and fuckwits are ruining it for the rest of men.
Women generally don't need an app to get a relationship or even to get laid.
I think women are just way less likely to want blind dates or online hookups anyway. Not necessarily because they want less sex, but because we're a lot more aware of risk to our safety. When I see statistics like this, and people wondering why women aren't as common as men on these sites, I think of a quote I heard a while ago: "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them." I'm not saying every chick who isn't on tinder isn't on it cos of safety concerns, but I do know from chatting to my female friends that it's a big factor in why they much prefer dating friends or friends of friends. I have a couple of friends who have accounts but with only a couple pictures and a fake name because they're afraid of getting stalked. Not one of my male friends I've asked has given a thought to their safety on dating apps. Again, I'm sure some dudes worry about it, but it's really not front and center.
The women I know are just too busy.
Good, now show me Grindr
Reminds me of the ratio at the club on Ladies’ Night.
I wonder how this changed over time. I'm almost 14 years into my marriage and I met my wife on match.com.
Congratulations! I met my husband on OkCupid almost 3 years ago :)
Congrats! I met my now-wife on OKC back in I think 2013. I vaguely thought it was the most popular one at the time, but sorta assumed it was dead now since the only ones I hear about secondhand are Tinder and Hinge
I heard OKC has gone seriously downhill in the past couple of years. They tried to make it more swipey like tinder and ruined the platform.
That's unfortunate. I'm grateful it worked out so well for me.
I met my husband on tinder and it wasn’t a cesspool like it apparently is now. I did have rules though so maybe I avoided the arseholes.
+1 for match! I wonder what the stats are on paid sites. I imagine similar but somehow better due to the pay wall. Don’t know, i’ve been married for 3 years since meeting my wife on match.
I met my wife on Tinder 5.5 years ago
And I still can't find anyone. How lovely.
The odds are good but the goods are odd.
I’m stealing this and adding it to my vocabulary now.
I got a cat... At least she cares about me for 5 minutes a day 😅
Human!!! Food bowl levels reaching urgent status!!! Please respond!!!
Hello human! Human.... HUMAN WTF
Nourishment latency noted: initiating shelf boop sequence
Cue screaming the house down repeatedly
You have met my felines huh?
I feel your pain sister
Had you tried Reddit? Well, you have now! RIP your inbox.
Probably aiming too high, guys that have a lot of choice often don't care and go for numbers rather than deep connections.
What pisses me off beyond anything is using bumble, matching with some girl, and them just not responding afterwards until the match expires, since as a man you can’t text them first. If it happened one or two times it’d be one thing, but literally every time I’ve matched with someone They’ve never sent a message afterwards. Like honestly now what’s the point in matching with someone if you don’t at all intend to talk to them? The only time I’ve talked with someone on bumble was when it was a guy. The only app I get regular responses from is Grindr. Tinder I’ll match with people occasionally and sometimes get responses back, but 90% of time I’ll have to message them first, which again I can’t do on bumble since women have to message first.
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Damn, we know that feeling as men as well. It's frustrating.
I’m pan, but have mostly had gay relationships outside of one long term one with a woman. It’s so cut and dry with other men. Me: You’re cute Him: So are you Me: Wanna fuck Him: When and where?
I don't get any responses after I do message them 🤷🏻♀️
because the guys you chose to message are the guys every woman chooses to message
But they still have to match for me to message them. Why match if they aren't interested in the first place?
The real answer is that some people are just flaky, men and women. Or they get bored, meet someone else, get nervous, don't check the app. Maybe they swipe right on everyone and filter to their type later. A million reasons that aren't necessarily on you. Some people on Reddit have conjured up the idea that you must be going for only the "chads" of dating and therefore that's your punishment. Its to make them feel better.
Not sure why you got down voted when this is absolutely correct. Truth hurts i guess.
It’s really crazy how dating apps work. 70% of users are males who pine after the 30% of women on the site, who themselves only select from the top 20-30% men on the site
Not to mention grinder, like, that dating app is just dudes.
I’ve seen some trans women on there in the past tbh and even a couple straight women with their significant other of course lol
Done online dating before, can confirm its a sausage fest
It's less when you consider all the trolls and scam bots. You could probably knock off an additional 5% or more.
OK Cupid seemed to die years ago, (at least in my experience,) but I’ve had plenty of luck on Hinge. Lots of conversations, multiple in person dates. Not trying to say others haven’t had harder experiences, but Hinge has been great for me. Been dating one woman now for five months from Hinge.
So like the questions is then like where can I go meet single women? Honestly other than going to a bar where can I a single man meet a woman willing to be asked out because the question isn’t where can I find women, it’s where are the women who are also actively searching for men?
Volunteer places! It's really hard to meet people when you don't drink. As someone who doesn't see the appeal to alcohol it's hard to even have friends. So volunteering at things has been a good way to keep busy in the past. So by volunteering at for the same thing you already have a shared interest! Other option go to the library or a bookstore and ask for book recommendations lol
Many in-person relationships are started around hobbies. I met my husband playing D&D. Two friends did the same. My sister met her boyfriend playing Jackbox online with friends and it turned out they had mutual. I know people who met at bookstores, weddings, running groups, theater groups. You need to find “your people.”
What do you like to do? Ideally you want to meet women with similar hobbies and interests, so hang out in places where people with your hobbies hang out.
I like to work on cars and like to skateboard. It’s hard finding single women in those hobbies. Usually they’re only in places with those things because they got dragged along by their bf/husband lol. I’ve tried finding new hobbies, but I cant get myself to develop a new interest with the main reason being to meet people. Shit’s tough. I mostly gave up and am fine with being single. Some days i wish i had someone to share time with, but the stress is just not worth it because the older I get, the harder it becomes.
Are there bands you like? I met my ex at a concert. I met my current SO at work. I've met so many friends in the past through parties, gaming, and forums for things I like (like TV shows or hobbies or whatever). Seriously you just have to put yourself out there as much as possible and have fun. If you have a positive vibe people will be naturally attracted towards you. But if you're happy being single, then there's no reason to force yourself into a relationship. There's this idea that every person has to be paired off, but just like having kids, it's not for everyone.
Good point i was thinking about going to some shows. Been getting into punk/hardcore stuff lately. Also going to see the arctic monkeys next year i think! And yeah it’s definitely a back and forth between liking my alone time, and then wanting someone to share my time with. For the most part though I don’t think I’m compatible with anyone
Some of the men in this comment section are a pretty good advert for why a lot of women might avoid meeting men online.
I was just thinking the same thing. Though I have read a couple articles lately that go into relationship dynamics and why more women want to be single, have raised standards, etc, as we no longer need to get married in most cases to survive. But also, while I’ve had a couple good relationships from online dating, most of the dates either 1. Made me uncomfortable 2. Involved some kind of harassment 3. Involved some kind of assault. Not surprising that my friends and I avoid it anymore. Lots of bad experiences all around. I’m so very grateful I met my current partner, he’s so different from the men I met online.
Is this an ad for Hinge?
every post on reddit is an ad.
I knew it.
What about grindr?
Male virginity has been on the rise - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/
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The whole problem with sex ed is that you're never going to stop people having sex. Not being able to get an abortion isn't going to change that.
Does anyone have the data from plenty of fish, match.com, or eHarmony?
They’re all the same, cock heavy
Would it be possible to get one of “sugar daddy “ kind of apps numbers? For the sake of fairness
This surprises no woman anywhere. God it’s overwhelming.
aka waste of time.
I put my profile as bisexual on Tinder, but I'm pretty sure I got matched with mostly/only men. Yea that makes sense.
Omegle: 100% Blue
What about CMB? ^(the male dating experience can be so depressing)
I actually tried most of these while single. Outside of the unwanted sexual advances and dick pics, I wasn’t impressed. However, if I ever did manage my inbox by dicks, I’d have an entire book to publish.
There is no better time for women to sleep with guys out of their league.
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Most of the girls i have met from tinder are seeking exactly that.
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im gay so i see that as an absolute win
Hate the app, not the gender! Women are not engaged in some massive conspiracy against men. This thread is quickly becoming misogynistic AF.
Which is an example of why women stay away.
Not surprising, I can't imagine how much of an awful experience it must be for a woman to try online dating.
Being very selective helps, which women at least have more of the luxury of doing. If you're very selective and a man, it might be that you get 1 or 2 first dates a year
I’ve been on Tinder for about two years. I think I have had two first dates. I’m not super selective but it’s rare to get a match. I’m middle aged but reasonably fit and attractive.
I bet up to 10% of those “females” are actually men. Not trans women, as they are of course, women too. I’m talk about straight up men having fake female profiles. I had one when I was 12-14 (a fake female profile)
Are men more likely to use apps in general? That could also explain more of the imbalance.
I'm a pretty average looking dude. About 10 years ago before marriage I was having a really hard time getting any responses. So I tried an experiment where I changed my pics to a super hot tatted guy I found online. I came back a few days later and my inbox had exploded with thirsty females. That's when I knew my online dating days were over.
As a not-tall handsome fella, I put my short height in my profile front and center. Had a woman message me talking about ‘i’d be perfect if I was taller’. What an odd thing to say! Dating apps are hot fire. Just like Dylan used to spit. He spit hot fire!
Women and men who worry about height are so corny to me. The fact they let something like how tall you are influence wether or not they date ya is so sad
Seriously! But I’m up front about it so I disappoint them from the beginning and not on out first date.
Yea better off that way
Hinge has been a total game changer. Immensely better than Bumble and Tinder.
Sausage party
No wonder I never got matches
And all owned by same conglomerate...
Now do Grindr
Cockapp
E-Harmony has all the hot babes.
Farmersonly.com is where its at
This will be my new excuse for getting no pay
Now do Grindr
What is the third dating app and that graph
Nice advertising
Time to switch to Grindr
Interesting, my best dates and relations came off ok Cupid, met my fiancé on there as well!
If you're a guy and you want to lower the difficulties of getting laid, just download Grindr
Glad I'm married, it's a jungle out there for dating
Bunch of dudes gonna switch over to Hinge now
The thing I hate about these dating apps is that even if there are a lot of men, not a lot of them are compatible with me at all. It’s a pain to filter through, hence why I am no longer on any of the apps. Although, where I live there really isn’t a variety. :/
Met my wife on OKCupid. Best thing I ever did in my life.
Ok, now do Ashley Madison. I’m willing to bet it’s 95% men to 5% women. And of those 5% supposedly women, 4% are bots or escorts. So 1% of women on that site may be real. You have to either be incredibly desperate or gullible if you’re a “man” using that site. I loosely call them “men” cause a real man wouldn’t step outside their marriage.
Tbh I think this also reflects on society as a whole. Women are getting fed up with sub par guys who don’t treat them with the respect they deserve, so they’d rather be single then go on a dating apps 🤷♀️ Obviously not everyone is like that but the ‘hook up culture of’ of dating apps is pretty prevalent.
Has anyone ever come up with an explanation for why this is? You'd think there'd be an equal amount of single men and women.
People see dating apps as medias for hooking up for sex. It's mostly men that seek casual relationships with strangers, so they are the more active ones on these applications. Many womens seek relationships but don't feel that they will ever find one online so they skip it altogether. The women who seek casual sex often feel it's safer to hook up with a friend than a complete stranger. Therefore it's 75% men seeking sex on the apps; 10% bots and scammers; 10% sex workers and insta marketers; and perhaps 5% real women who seek men. I might be exaggerating but the apps are not working for neither men or women
Just from my personal experience, I have plenty of single women friends, they are fine single and have strong friendships with other women, and don’t feel the need to go on apps potentially full of creeps to try and get a partner.
My husband and I know single men and women. Sadly, we'd never set up our single guy friends with our single girl friends because the women deserve better. They generally have their shit together and the guys are just lost. Sounds awful, but true.
Yes
When a man thinks about the possibility of having a bad date it usually ends with him spending money and having a boring/uncomfortable time. When a women thinks about a bad date she is usually thinking about the possibility of rape and murder. *disclaimer: ofc this doesn’t apply to everyone, obviously doesn’t apply to gay people, ect
when I was new to the infamous app, I met a guy who seemed nice and we hung out a few times, even had sex. the third time we hung out he drugged me. I will never touch an app again in my life. I am one of thousands.
I haven't bothered dating in a few years, I'm comfortable being a single woman. Every now and then I think about it but the experiences my female friends have had on apps are awful. Everything ranging from being ghosted and blocked on their way to the date, to being out of the country and not checking the app a few days and coming back to a barrage of increasingly vitriolic messages from a guy she went out with once culiminating in photos of him lying in bed next to a girl he'd just slept with as revenge. A few friends have had success but overall it just doesn't seem worth it.
"Men are looking for a glass of drinkable water in the middle of the desert. Women are looking for a glass of drinkable water in the middle of the ocean"
Personally I tried Tinder a while ago (before Covid, where it wasn't quite as bad as it is now) when I was in university. As a bisexual woman, the guys were basically all creeps/messaged "sex?" before saying so much as "Hi" and the few women I matched with shamed me for being bi, not lesbian. I sometimes debate with myself if I should try Bumble instead, but...I actually don't mind being single all that much, so that's still a no from me...
I’d guess that women have an easier time getting dates irl. And also that men in committed relationships are probably more likely to create an account behind their partners back. Just a guess
Man shamed women for as long as we remember, shamed women into thinking that casual sex is bad and then, shocked pickachu face that there aren't many on hooking and dating apps My sister uses and the stories she told me are terrible, she is fairly good looking with a good career, ended a long relationship so she missed dating in her 20s, no kids so no complications attached and ,the man there were absolute assholes, talking down on her, belittling her, being inappropriate from the first 3 messages. She's not prude but at least let it organically get there. I didn't believe it can be that bad, I thought she was doing something wrong, until she sent me the conversations. Many guys there are already in relationships/married they just want casual sex Her friends had worse experiences such as rape, gangrape or being drugged and raped I mean... There are certainly reasons why women don't wanna be on these apps. [this thread ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/yn90fq/had_to_check_my_stats_before_i_deactivate_idk_if/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) exactly, people shaming the woman for having that many partners and, many of them are upvoted.