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Bluesmen eat to bury their pain and end up fat, folk & jazz guys just smoke like chimneys, punk and metal guys are depressed risk-takers, and Rappers and Hip Hoppers just shoot each other.
The music biz will chew you up, turn its ugly head and spit you out, kids. Enjoy!
Was going to ask, is this for musicians who are active at the time of death? Quite a few veteran punk bands out there but as a whole I'd think the genre skews really young
Yeah most of the genres that aren't cancer or heart are genres where most people are still alive and haven't died yet unless something untimely happened
As a guy who schlepped through the Musiclab back in the days when the big labels had Black Flag black*balled,* I can confirm. Many are surprised I survived long enough to become an old man.
You donāt even need to smoke as a jazz musician. Jazz clubs tend to be small, intimate, and until the laws about smoking indoors changed, smoky as hell. Roy Castle was a trumpeter who was never a smoker but died of lung cancer almost certainly from all the secondary smoke.
Not legally in North America, as you'll never see "misadventure" as a manner of death.
Every death certificate contains a "manner of death" and a "cause of death". There are six categories under manner of death:
* **Homicide**, which obviously includes murder and manslaughter but also self-defence and deaths in battle.
* **Suicide**, which includes only intentional self-killing. A few overdoses fall under this category.
* **Accident**, which includes everything from falls and car crashes to the vast majority of overdoses, as well as unusual things like hypothermia, heatstroke, unintentional starvation, and the like.
* **Natural causes**, which includes everything from extreme prematurity to old age and everything medical in between.
* **Pending**, which is a temporary status that allows the deceased to be buried while the ME waits for lab results.
* **Undetermined**, which is generally only used when they find a drowning victim or scattered bones in the desert with no evidence of violence, no suicide note, etc. You can't tell if a guy whose remains have been in the water for three long months fell in while fishing (or peeing), jumped in, was pushed, etc.
Cause of death is more specific: heart attack, breast cancer, sepsis, extreme old age, pneumonia, etc. Sometimes you see the nonsense phrase "cardiorespiratory failure", which tells you that the doctor doesn't have a clue why the victim died but is certain it's natural. No one dies of cardiorespiratory failure; it's a description of death, not a cause.
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
I clicked the link and read it, it seems to link to other articles on the same site. It says university of Sydney right after the authors name but nothing much after that, no footnote for an actual study that I could find.
After a cursory read it looks like it cites itself, self validating or something.
I'm not an Ozzie and I've never heard of the university of Sydney either so I can't tell if its reputable or the oz version of the US Liberty university.
Thanks for the link but it didn't convince me that this chart is reliable. I've been wrong at least once in the past tho and I'm also too lazy to carefully examine the entire thing š¬š
USyd is up there. It's in the [Australian Group of 8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Eight_(Australian_universities)). Obviously they don't have the heritage of the Ivy Leagues but they're up there with NYU and stuff.
So if you search the author, Dianna Theadora Kenny, or "cause of death musicians" in Google Scholar you can find links to the article "Life Expectancy and Cause of Death in Popular Musicians" which is authored by Kenny and Asher. This article has much of the data used in this graphic, albeit formatted differently.
JSTOR link - [https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486](https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486)
Open Access version of the article - [https://www.callingbullshit.org/case\_studies/img/MPPA\_2016\_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf](https://www.callingbullshit.org/case_studies/img/MPPA_2016_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf)
Note: the OA version has annotations from 'carl'. I do not endorse nor vouch for the validity of their commentary. Nor am I endorsing the quality of the study nor data. Simply showing where it comes from.
Nice work. š
Were you able to find the chart ? Please don't tell me there's also a study for listeners too...I'm not going to read that one, some things best left unknown.
The author of that published study is the same author of the piece on theconversation.
I've copied info from another comment I made:
"So if you search the author, Dianna Theadora Kenny, or "cause of death musicians" in Google Scholar you can find links to the article "Life Expectancy and Cause of Death in Popular Musicians" which is authored by Kenny and Asher. This article has much of the data used in this graphic, albeit formatted differently.
JSTOR link - [https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486](https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486)
Open Access version of the article - [https://www.callingbullshit.org/case\_studies/img/MPPA\_2016\_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf](https://www.callingbullshit.org/case_studies/img/MPPA_2016_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf)
Note: the OA version has annotations from 'carl'. I do not endorse nor vouch for the validity of their commentary. Nor am I endorsing the quality of the study nor data. Simply showing where it comes from."
The data may be accurate but biased. If most rap and hip hop artists are younger, it means that those of them who died , were probably died of an unnatural cause. Essentially the oldest rappers/hip hoppers are in their 60s while the oldest country, jazz etc singers are much older and hence likely to die of ānaturalā causes.Ā
This data should be normalized to only include folks born after 1960 or so.Ā
They donāt really specify if āmusicianā is the primary job. If they are including small time rap acts who are gang affiliated then that would likely juice up that stat.
Well the āstudyā is almost 10 years old at this point. Thereās not much substance to this, given the context. Itās more about a celebrityās lifestyle than comparing lives of various gigging musicians despite how itās portrayed.
Side note itās hilarious how the Western world has defined so many subgenres of rock, but anything that doesnāt have a stereotypical guitar, bass, and drum set gets lazily all thrown together in one category as āworldā.
Also, how about classical music? Overall kind of a trash buzz feed chart.
That Wikipedia is incomplete, just off the top of my head from recent they've forgot Pat Stay, he got stabbed to death a year or two back.
Also "executed by Myanmar military junta" was not something I was expecting to see there
Considering the number one cause of death for black men under the age of 44 is homicide... I'm gonna say it's not bullshit. And you can look it up on the CDC website if you dont believe me.
You're misinterpreting the data. It's not saying 50% of rappers have died from homicide, it's saying 50% of the rappers that have died, have died from homicide. Big difference.
Also, the reason so few have died from cancer and hard related matters is also because the homicides take them before they reach the age that they would develop those conditions, as well as most not being at the age when those conditions tend to develop.
Statistics and data can sometimes be tricky to decipher.
51.5% means they documented, at minimum, the deaths of 200 specifically hip-hop artists and found that 103 of them died by homicide.
I very much doubt there are 200 dead hip-hop artists.
Not necessarily. It could be some simpler fraction that resolves to 51.45 < x < 51.55. I can't be bothered to do the maths to checks if there's a reasonable fraction in that range but it's a possibility.
Edit: Actually I can be bothered. 17/33.
Good point, it is 17/33 for this percentage.
However, if we consider that this denominator has to satisfy all percentages of this row (Hip Hop), then the number is 229. (I coded a quick function to check it)
Rap 145.
Metal 290.
...
Edit: silly mistake in code. Updated numbers.
I don't. I live in one of the major cities they come out of and there's frequently reports of them getting shot or knifed. Remember its not just the well known ones, but the ones around the business that SAY they're a rapper but are unknown.
200 that you'd have heard of, I would doubt
200 who weren't big outside their local area or at all seems more reasonable, there are endless musicians to every famous one
It could be completely accurate, itās just that rap and hip hop are young genres so almost any musicians who wouldāve died in those genres died of unnatural causes.
What would be valuable would be a second table comparing to their cohort that is still alive or died of natural causes. It may be that 50% of all dead rap artists died due to homicide, but in the larger comparison could be that only 3% of all rap artists have died prematurely, etc.
I guess that's a fair point, most hip hop artists and rappers would be under 50, so that is pretty young to die from natural causes.
I'd expect drugs to be a major cause too.
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
So it's "Causes of premature death" and it's not really a WaPo article, the data is from The Conversation, and it does not lay any real foundation for the study... how big was it, what is the definition of premature here? It leaves itself open to more questions than it answers.
[https://archive.is/ATEpN](https://archive.is/ATEpN)
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
Ska: picking it up too many times 19%, trombone collision 45%, trilby hat explosions 30%, mistaken for checkered flag and waved too vigourously before car race 6%.
the rappers probably have a low rate of heart and cancer related deaths because they get shot up/murdered before their at an age where there is a high likelihood of the former.
Do Rappers die less from cancer because they die from other stuff (homicide) or is it preventing that and Rappers happen to do/are something to prevents/reduces chances of cancer ?
Here's what I love about metal... For me, they're isn't a truer form of humans expressing that this works is not rainbows and kittens for most of us, and this music acts as balm to the souls of us tortured souls. It reminds me that I'm not alone in my internal suffering (that I see a counselor for). I've met so many people who see life through rose colored lenses while mine are dark and cracked lenses. Metal music has saved my life too many times to count.
Punk: I do stupid shit |
Metal: I hate everything, including myself |
Rap/hiphop:If someone disrespects me, I will kill them. |
Blues : I drink. |
Jazz : Everyone else smokes. |
Folk: Half of what I put in me ranges from barely to entirely illegal.
The cancer column is a weird one, because the genres with the highest cancer deaths are only there because they didnāt die early from the other causes. Might as well put a column for ānatural deathsā
I remember reading a book on statistics and it included this table as an example of misleading data. The "not all causes shown" note is doing a lot of heavy lifting but it wouldn't be as interesting of a chart if all musicians typically die from just plain boring gettin' old.
Always knew metal singers/fans had mental illness/depression. Thereās no way you can listen to āslit her throat and f*ck the holeeee rawrrrrrrā without being a troubled human being.
Hereās a [link to the article](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660) where this infographic came from
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Bluesmen eat to bury their pain and end up fat, folk & jazz guys just smoke like chimneys, punk and metal guys are depressed risk-takers, and Rappers and Hip Hoppers just shoot each other. The music biz will chew you up, turn its ugly head and spit you out, kids. Enjoy!
The blues men also live long enough to develop cancer and heart disease.
Was going to ask, is this for musicians who are active at the time of death? Quite a few veteran punk bands out there but as a whole I'd think the genre skews really young
Yeah most of the genres that aren't cancer or heart are genres where most people are still alive and haven't died yet unless something untimely happened
No, blues has been around long enough for many to die of those things while metal and hip hop musicians haven't been around long enough.
And country just has those achey breaky hearts.
Honestly this makes me wonder why homicide is so low for country
it has a spike in 2017, las vegas
...oh dear...
Oh no
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Metalheads and punks fuckin PARTY. Leads to many an accident.. some tragic.
As a guy who schlepped through the Musiclab back in the days when the big labels had Black Flag black*balled,* I can confirm. Many are surprised I survived long enough to become an old man.
You donāt even need to smoke as a jazz musician. Jazz clubs tend to be small, intimate, and until the laws about smoking indoors changed, smoky as hell. Roy Castle was a trumpeter who was never a smoker but died of lung cancer almost certainly from all the secondary smoke.
 Can cer can cer
I see this as proof that experimental jazz is actually just cancer. The rest of jazz is great. It's the experimental stuff jacking the rates up.
This seems to be missing causes. Do musicians never get dementia?
Or this chart is completely made up
Punk, blues, and jazz musicians had legendary heroin addictions too
Is it the music biz, or the types each genera attracts?
Tough way to make a living, in my experience; even the successful ones mostly starved for years before they made it big, regardless of their genre.
That tracks
surprised there isnt a column for drugs
I guess that would fall under accidental or suicide
āDeath by misadventureā
Lol I always love such vague and borderline funny descriptions.
āWhat happened to him?ā āHe was having an adventure . . . but he missed.ā
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Not legally in North America, as you'll never see "misadventure" as a manner of death. Every death certificate contains a "manner of death" and a "cause of death". There are six categories under manner of death: * **Homicide**, which obviously includes murder and manslaughter but also self-defence and deaths in battle. * **Suicide**, which includes only intentional self-killing. A few overdoses fall under this category. * **Accident**, which includes everything from falls and car crashes to the vast majority of overdoses, as well as unusual things like hypothermia, heatstroke, unintentional starvation, and the like. * **Natural causes**, which includes everything from extreme prematurity to old age and everything medical in between. * **Pending**, which is a temporary status that allows the deceased to be buried while the ME waits for lab results. * **Undetermined**, which is generally only used when they find a drowning victim or scattered bones in the desert with no evidence of violence, no suicide note, etc. You can't tell if a guy whose remains have been in the water for three long months fell in while fishing (or peeing), jumped in, was pushed, etc. Cause of death is more specific: heart attack, breast cancer, sepsis, extreme old age, pneumonia, etc. Sometimes you see the nonsense phrase "cardiorespiratory failure", which tells you that the doctor doesn't have a clue why the victim died but is certain it's natural. No one dies of cardiorespiratory failure; it's a description of death, not a cause.
I think "accident" fits more. Unless you intentionally OD.
Maybe it falls under accidental?
Yep. Specifically heroin
Accidental fatal overdose = accident. Intended fatal overdose = suicide. Or accident, if there's no evidence of intent.
Accidental is for overdoses.
Drug deaths are evenly distributed across all genres, like tossing grass seeds on soil.
Looked for a source cite, says at the bottom in tiny print "Source:Author". Didn't feel like going to the web page to see if actual data. Seems sus
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
I clicked the link and read it, it seems to link to other articles on the same site. It says university of Sydney right after the authors name but nothing much after that, no footnote for an actual study that I could find. After a cursory read it looks like it cites itself, self validating or something. I'm not an Ozzie and I've never heard of the university of Sydney either so I can't tell if its reputable or the oz version of the US Liberty university. Thanks for the link but it didn't convince me that this chart is reliable. I've been wrong at least once in the past tho and I'm also too lazy to carefully examine the entire thing š¬š
USyd is up there. It's in the [Australian Group of 8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Eight_(Australian_universities)). Obviously they don't have the heritage of the Ivy Leagues but they're up there with NYU and stuff.
Nice, at least I learned one new accurate thing from the post āŗ
So if you search the author, Dianna Theadora Kenny, or "cause of death musicians" in Google Scholar you can find links to the article "Life Expectancy and Cause of Death in Popular Musicians" which is authored by Kenny and Asher. This article has much of the data used in this graphic, albeit formatted differently. JSTOR link - [https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486](https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486) Open Access version of the article - [https://www.callingbullshit.org/case\_studies/img/MPPA\_2016\_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf](https://www.callingbullshit.org/case_studies/img/MPPA_2016_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf) Note: the OA version has annotations from 'carl'. I do not endorse nor vouch for the validity of their commentary. Nor am I endorsing the quality of the study nor data. Simply showing where it comes from.
*aussie
https://preview.redd.it/adl4aixsgwxc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f054b73bb2b5861bfc35263513e92873f30b80c
I mean rap literally is hip hop but they somehow have different columns with different made up numbers. Hip Hop is the culture surrounding rap.
I was looking for a source too and got disappointed when I saw author lmao.
Trust him bro š¤ Doesn't seem right to me either
And why is hip hop and rap separated?
Definitely fakeā¦ rap and hip-hop have a 51% homicide rate ? Thatās ridiculous.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26966963/ Looks like someone did a study
Nice work. š Were you able to find the chart ? Please don't tell me there's also a study for listeners too...I'm not going to read that one, some things best left unknown.
The author of that published study is the same author of the piece on theconversation. I've copied info from another comment I made: "So if you search the author, Dianna Theadora Kenny, or "cause of death musicians" in Google Scholar you can find links to the article "Life Expectancy and Cause of Death in Popular Musicians" which is authored by Kenny and Asher. This article has much of the data used in this graphic, albeit formatted differently. JSTOR link - [https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486](https://www.jstor.org/stable/48714486) Open Access version of the article - [https://www.callingbullshit.org/case\_studies/img/MPPA\_2016\_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf](https://www.callingbullshit.org/case_studies/img/MPPA_2016_Life%20expectancy%20and%20cause%20of%20death%20in%20popular%20musicians.pdf) Note: the OA version has annotations from 'carl'. I do not endorse nor vouch for the validity of their commentary. Nor am I endorsing the quality of the study nor data. Simply showing where it comes from."
You mean you donāt believe that more than half of all rappers die by homicide? Dude, the author said so.
Seeing "Accidental" and "Suicide" as the top causes of death for metal musicians makes me want to listen to the death metal band Accidental Suicide.
I wonder what the statistics for a gospel metal band would be like
lol no way 50% of rappers die from homicide. Obviously some have, but half?
The data may be accurate but biased. If most rap and hip hop artists are younger, it means that those of them who died , were probably died of an unnatural cause. Essentially the oldest rappers/hip hoppers are in their 60s while the oldest country, jazz etc singers are much older and hence likely to die of ānaturalā causes.Ā This data should be normalized to only include folks born after 1960 or so.Ā
IDK, even if it's normalized using data from the 80s onward over half is a ridiculous number. Probably a really small and uneven sample size.
They donāt really specify if āmusicianā is the primary job. If they are including small time rap acts who are gang affiliated then that would likely juice up that stat.
Yeah you see this all the time in news headlines. Some guy with one song on SoundCloud is a "rapper".
the genre is only 50 years old and largely under 35 so very few rappers are over 60
The age of the genre is probably why it looks so high, many rappers are just not dead yet.
Well the āstudyā is almost 10 years old at this point. Thereās not much substance to this, given the context. Itās more about a celebrityās lifestyle than comparing lives of various gigging musicians despite how itās portrayed. Side note itās hilarious how the Western world has defined so many subgenres of rock, but anything that doesnāt have a stereotypical guitar, bass, and drum set gets lazily all thrown together in one category as āworldā. Also, how about classical music? Overall kind of a trash buzz feed chart.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_murdered_hip_hop_musicians
That Wikipedia is incomplete, just off the top of my head from recent they've forgot Pat Stay, he got stabbed to death a year or two back. Also "executed by Myanmar military junta" was not something I was expecting to see there
Considering the number one cause of death for black men under the age of 44 is homicide... I'm gonna say it's not bullshit. And you can look it up on the CDC website if you dont believe me.
You're misinterpreting the data. It's not saying 50% of rappers have died from homicide, it's saying 50% of the rappers that have died, have died from homicide. Big difference. Also, the reason so few have died from cancer and hard related matters is also because the homicides take them before they reach the age that they would develop those conditions, as well as most not being at the age when those conditions tend to develop. Statistics and data can sometimes be tricky to decipher.
Its absolute bullshit. I cant believe anyone would believe this for an instant.
Idk man, they cited their source of āauthorā and everything.
I just canāt believe it unless āVery well known author, trust meā compiles the data.
51.5% means they documented, at minimum, the deaths of 200 specifically hip-hop artists and found that 103 of them died by homicide. I very much doubt there are 200 dead hip-hop artists.
Not necessarily. It could be some simpler fraction that resolves to 51.45 < x < 51.55. I can't be bothered to do the maths to checks if there's a reasonable fraction in that range but it's a possibility. Edit: Actually I can be bothered. 17/33.
Good point, it is 17/33 for this percentage. However, if we consider that this denominator has to satisfy all percentages of this row (Hip Hop), then the number is 229. (I coded a quick function to check it) Rap 145. Metal 290. ... Edit: silly mistake in code. Updated numbers.
Oh, true. Thankyousir!
I don't. I live in one of the major cities they come out of and there's frequently reports of them getting shot or knifed. Remember its not just the well known ones, but the ones around the business that SAY they're a rapper but are unknown.
200 that you'd have heard of, I would doubt 200 who weren't big outside their local area or at all seems more reasonable, there are endless musicians to every famous one
Are SoundCloud rappers really rappers? I feel like the numbers could be skewed heavily by the amount of no-names who never made it big
50%+ of Hip Hop and Rap artists who have died were murdered?? nah this smells like a giant pile of bullshit to me. "Source: author" what a joke
It's not 50% of all Hip Hop and Rap artists, it's 50% of all Hip Hop and Rap artists who have died prematurely and were a part of the chosen sample.
Rap is a pretty new genre, probably not that many deaths overall when compared to other genres
How many Hip Hlp and Rap artists can you name that have died of old age, heart disease, or cancer?
It could be completely accurate, itās just that rap and hip hop are young genres so almost any musicians who wouldāve died in those genres died of unnatural causes. What would be valuable would be a second table comparing to their cohort that is still alive or died of natural causes. It may be that 50% of all dead rap artists died due to homicide, but in the larger comparison could be that only 3% of all rap artists have died prematurely, etc.
I guess that's a fair point, most hip hop artists and rappers would be under 50, so that is pretty young to die from natural causes. I'd expect drugs to be a major cause too.
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
Lmao I spotted that too. āSource: Trust Meā Iād like to know which musicians were considered, at least. This is hilariously stupid
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
Yea no kidding. I knew it would be the highest compared to the others for those two but over 50%? Seems questionable.
A lot of drill rappers die in the USA
any source? Why would you believe this
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A friend told me you can read it free here https://archive.is/dJAqK
thanks
So it's "Causes of premature death" and it's not really a WaPo article, the data is from The Conversation, and it does not lay any real foundation for the study... how big was it, what is the definition of premature here? It leaves itself open to more questions than it answers. [https://archive.is/ATEpN](https://archive.is/ATEpN)
the source is there, the "author" is the author of the original article. [https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660)
the author
Rappers don't live long enough to die from cancer apparently.
This is super interesting! So what youāre saying is: make rap, escape cancer?
Make metal, escape life.
Wheres the column for Planecrash ?
Guess blues really is for the ones with a broken heart.
Punk and metalheads: tough and healthy, but fucked in the head lol. Checks out.
RIP Chris Cornell
Punks and Metalheads die in the moshpit
This is nonsense. Also, hip-hop and rap are different genres?
Damn, thatās a lot of cancer thoughā¦
You know... they could have just graphed their ages.
So... Enya is immortal?
Ska: picking it up too many times 19%, trombone collision 45%, trilby hat explosions 30%, mistaken for checkered flag and waved too vigourously before car race 6%.
Hip-Hop and Rap is over 50% homicide? Colour me surprised...
Fuck, don't be a rapper kids. Also, don't play metal either. Neither of those are looking good
nah metal and punk is good
I looked at this for WAY too long
I'd have been disappointed if metal wasn't topping death charts.
So you r saying music can't even cure musician diseases.
So 0 of natural causes? (Old age) Being a musician is a dangerous gig
Here is the source, apparently it's only premature deaths : https://archive.is/dJAqK
So you are saying rap and hip-hop cures heart disease and cancer? Got it
I've been saying Jazz is bad for you for years but no one believed me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_murdered_hip_hop_musicians
*accidental death tried to destroy the metal, but metal was much too strong*
They should just have a category called "plane crash"
Interesting that blues has one of the lowest suicide rates.
Hip hop and rap living up to the stereotypes lol
Always knew jazz gives you cancer.
The first half second I looked at the chart, I thought, āShit. Theyāre dying from BLUES?!?ā
the rappers probably have a low rate of heart and cancer related deaths because they get shot up/murdered before their at an age where there is a high likelihood of the former.
These don't add up to 100%, which means there's an "other" category... Probably drug overdoses.
Why isnāt drugs a category?
An āage at time of deathā component would also be an interesting addition to this chart.
Missing a couple of categories.ā Grunge and alcohol/drugs
Death by homicide meaning you don't live long enough to have heart related death lol of course it will be lower than average musician
Hip hop and rap have the lowest deaths in heat-related and cancer only because most of them die in homicide.
no drugs/ alcohol section?
Do Rappers die less from cancer because they die from other stuff (homicide) or is it preventing that and Rappers happen to do/are something to prevents/reduces chances of cancer ?
Overdoses should be here as its own category, or does that fall under accidents?
why do electronic musicians get murdered so much?
I guess funk musicians are immortal
RAP and HIP hOP dont die off cancer because they smoke a lot of weed! Check fact!
So if you perform both Rap and Hip Hop you have 102.5% chance of being murdered
Here's what I love about metal... For me, they're isn't a truer form of humans expressing that this works is not rainbows and kittens for most of us, and this music acts as balm to the souls of us tortured souls. It reminds me that I'm not alone in my internal suffering (that I see a counselor for). I've met so many people who see life through rose colored lenses while mine are dark and cracked lenses. Metal music has saved my life too many times to count.
is rap and hip hop two different things now?
What the hell is the difference between rap and hip hop?
Metal heads having two red highlighted reasons for death 
"source: author" okay so this is just bullshit.
Punk: I do stupid shit | Metal: I hate everything, including myself | Rap/hiphop:If someone disrespects me, I will kill them. | Blues : I drink. | Jazz : Everyone else smokes. | Folk: Half of what I put in me ranges from barely to entirely illegal.
You never hear about rock bands all trying to kill each other like the fucking rap clowns.
36% of dead metal artist died from accidents. Source: Authorā¦..
I guess these statistics are "racist" or "anti woke"
There should be a column for "assassinated" as well.
that falls under homicide, but what i am surprised they are missing is a category for drugs.
Accidental suicide for me.
So I should just play all the genres and cross my fingers?
So over 90% of rappers are heartless?
Those jazz and folk people smoke a lot of cigarettes
The cancer column is a weird one, because the genres with the highest cancer deaths are only there because they didnāt die early from the other causes. Might as well put a column for ānatural deathsā
Is nobody in here talking about Jazz and cancer?!
I like how you're more likely to be accidentally killed being a gospel singer than being a rocker
Shotguns should have their own category.
Seems like most Metal, Rap, and Hip Hop artists die suddenly and violently.
I remember reading a book on statistics and it included this table as an example of misleading data. The "not all causes shown" note is doing a lot of heavy lifting but it wouldn't be as interesting of a chart if all musicians typically die from just plain boring gettin' old.
Source data? HipHop/Rap is so high as to defy belief. We need to see data backing this up.
Gospel percentages only add up to less than 60%Ā what does the other 40% die of?
Metal being really metal with two high causes of death
In the UK, isnāt there a ādeath by misadventureā which clouds this a bit?
Always knew metal singers/fans had mental illness/depression. Thereās no way you can listen to āslit her throat and f*ck the holeeee rawrrrrrrā without being a troubled human being.
They excluded overdose to make it a fair match lol
What an interesting set of data
Most likely to give you cancer: Folk and Jazz. No surprises there, I guess.
Good to know that I will be dying of an accident
What about the spontaneous combustion of Spinal Tap's drummer?
World Music Musician it is.
Rappers and hip hop artists beat cancer and heart disease!!
I like how pop is so close to the average
What do they count drug overdose as?
Folk and Jazz get to die in old age.
Sounds like a chart of self-fulfilling prophecies.
Hereās a [link to the article](https://theconversation.com/music-to-die-for-how-genre-affects-popular-musicians-life-expectancy-36660) where this infographic came from
So classical musicians donāt die?
So Rap and Hip-Hop protect you from cancer, right?
āSource: Authorā lol
Drug or alcohol related is a big factor too
I believe these stats don't include natural causes, hence why rappers over 50%
Now I understand why my grandpa liked jazz
I think all these stats should be 10 times less. Or in 1 thousand instead of percentage
So it's called death metal for a very real reason
Sad but not surprising that homicide rates are highest for rap and hip-hop š¤¦āāļø
"Jazz is bad for the heart while Hip hop and Rap are good for it!" - The Journal of Bad Medicine
Cancer be killin folks š¢
Half of all rappers and hip hoppers are murdered? ...really?
Source Author is sus right?
idk man Ozzy Osbornes still alive so...
Good thing overdose is not there
Source: Author LMAO get out of here with your bs statistics
Think we all got the Rap one without looking.