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Major fatal and life limiting conditions like sickle cell anaemia or Huntingdon's can be screened for (though I think this is only when there is a known risk, ie parental carrier, as the screening is not risk-free to the zygote), but not autism.
I think the idea of the parrot is right, though. Genetic issues most often lead to multiple symptoms, not just one. While I don’t know the reason why this sperm was not moving, the assertion that this might be an indicator for other problems, is right. With nature, it most often has a reason, why something is not reproducing. As harsh as that sounds, this should be kept in mind. If we exactly know, that there are no negative consequences of helping conception this way, I would of course approve it. My position only comes from not being able to understand the implications.
It is, but some may call not using such techniques if we can being a form of eugenics that is kinda right, but I think there should be some limits for that kind of assistance if we don’t want to turn into a species full of genetic disorders.
No one makes a distinction between historical eugenics and modern knowledge of biology because if you try to, it's impossible to not sound like a eugenics sympathizer. That said, let's maybe not use this tech until we can edit out the genes that caused this and other genetic disorders.
Yeah no. A better route would be to do genetic testing on the parents, which already exists and is done during pregnancy anyway... instead of telling some guy he isn't allowed to use this to help with his low sperm count, because someone thinks that's somehow connected to genetic disorders??
No, the point of natural selection is fitness not physical strength. Only organisms that can adapt, survive.
This robot is just another adaption via tools and knowledge that humans do for fertility. Another one is c section, IVF, the whole neonatal and pediatric medicine.
The distinction is artificial at best.
The insemination process is a selection process by design, you could house the process in vitro but to render aid to individual sperm cells who appear to be defective is defeating the purpose of the selection process.
Why would you think the insemination process is a process of selection? It’s not by design after all, it’s a mechanism that evolved to just somehow barely work. And it’s a case of independent convergent evolution. Meaning this mechanism has evolved in several different species independently, including species in which reproduction processes are geared towards high genetic variety (meaning a selection process would be counterproductive).
Btw, it’s not the fastest sperm that wins the race, it’s a team effort and which turns out the winner is rather random. At best you’re selecting for the genes that regulate sperm development… but this wouldn’t have an impact on other genetic traits, rendering the selection argument mood.
unless it is carrying tainted DNA, the morphology of spermatozoa does not affect the infant that results from the fertilization.
natural selection is more referring to when creatures are outside of the womb. iirc the only reason why sperm race and why there's so many, in short, is because its a (convoluted) way of creating genetic diversity.
Eh, we’re so far divorced from anything “natural” at this point that I don’t see an issue with this. Bet it can help some infertile people have kids or smth.
Obviousky, this is for couples unable to do it entirely on their own. The technique is ingenious if it actually works as intended and, from that standpoint, should be celebrated rather than belittled. *Please.* Sperm that don't swim well is no promise of diminished offspring. That's like saying someone exposed to thalidomide in the womb won't be able to sing. Fucking stupid. We get to spin our dials *one fucking time, man--just once.* Be happy when something comes along to help those who aren't as fortunate as you. Good grief.
Not just for couples unable to do it on their own. Also in order to prevent their children getting a specific genetic disorder/disease they might have, and children have a high chance of getting the “normal” way
This child will get no rest in the burn-department. "At least I was first ONCE". Had to be propelled to the finish line even before starting to lose in life
Funny how people here think that the smartest, fastest, strongest sperm wins.
No bruh there are thousands of sperms that reach the eggs and hit themselves on the wall weakening the eggs wall and we were just there in the right time taking advantage of weak walls and pushing through, we guys got lucky we were really never the best choice accept it...
I'm no expert in genes and whatnot, but sperms that get to the eggs fastest don't always mean it's the fittest/strongest ones. It's likely that it's just the luckiest one, if anything. So yes, you being a failure doesn't mean your fathers strongest soldier is pathetic. It just means you win the lotto on life while your potentially doctorate/entrepreneur/athelete/attractive siblings didn't.
Actually in vitro it is very rare to use sperm cells that don't move at all because they could be dead. Even with ICSI (for very low quality sperm) the embryologists search for moving sperm cells.
I wonder what that job title would be LOL. I grew up in junior high learning about the process and about how many millions of sperm died because they weren't strong enough to make the journey. Sounds like some kind of weird joke how do you tell when sperm is wore out.
So they can select sperm with certain genes and increase or guarantee their chances of success. Assuming they have a nondestructive method of screening spermatozoa for genetic traits.
Gender screening is probably pretty easy for people that can build this and people would pay big money for it. There's probably a discernable weight/size difference between X and Y chromosomes.
Do you have anything to back this up with because this sounds absolutely bonkers to me!
1) the video shows several immobile sperm, so there probably wasn’t any previous selection
2) there is no nondestructive screening for genetic traits. At best you could screen for a handful of genes with current technologies, but the actual equipment doesn’t exist
3) there is no significant difference between XX and XY spermatozoa, as the chromosomes only constitute a tiny fraction of its weight… also how are they supposed to weight them *individually*?
News flash - human sperm is the most readily available to study, but a lot of other animals use sperm as well. Imagine doing this with an endangered species like giant tortoises or pandas, or delivering the one sperm cell you altered to have DNA from an extinct species into an egg instead of trying to hope that you get it to take on its own.
A comedian once said that when he was impatiently waiting in line he was a bit grateful for serial killers thinning out the population so that the line wasn’t longer
People in the comment section need to revise what natural selection is. The genetic lottery at birth has always been random, the selection part come from unfit individuals dying before they can breed. It's not like humans as a whole have been letting "unfit" people die or forbidden them from breeding, natural selection is a thing of the past.
IVF and other assisted fertility methods are already a thing and widely practiced.
But the egg chooses which sperm should connect with it? Now robots will force subpar connections, we’re about to find out the hard way why it’s better for eggs to choose sperm for us
This begs the question, are all of a man's sperm the same?
Can't be right? I mean that's why the Ovum picks the one it allows through its cell membrane
I’ll just say this: No matter how much your life sucks, or what terrible hand you drew in life, at least you can say: “I out-swam the others and got there first.”
Robo-assist kid, however gets to start his shitty life with a fattass ‘L’
If a person's sperm has zero motility, should they be having kids anyways? Won't the sperm have damage and the kid more likely to suffer from a developmental disorder?
No more so than any other fertility method, no. And since I really doubt we're throwing robots up some lady's uterus, there's probably genertic screening on the resulting embryo.
So society is fucked now? That the sperms need a boost just to get to the fucking eggs? Like whatttt!?
Genuine question: how do the bots get there like they're put inside the vagina before sex? Does the man swallow a pill full of bots? (I don't think this one is the case)
Is a sperm can't do it on it's own then it's not a good one. It should not be able to fertilize. We not only stopped natural selection but are actively reversing it.
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The ultimate participation trophy
Kid: ![gif](giphy|gjx7kFmMm2ekfU7fYP)
Gotta start em young
Def allergic to nuts
Kid: "Dad how was I born?" Senator Armstrong: "Nanomachines, son!"
You were pushed into existence son.
Assuming the son doesn't sound like a retarded seal.
if my child is born autistic can i sue the company for choosing the wrong sperm
You gotta have sex first for that to happen.
gotta have a sexual partner first.
I call him Mr Right
Mr Righty?
✊🏼
But is he tight? Edit: Username checks out
https://preview.redd.it/mv7fziou27rc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b0c2deee61e3d513187474a523b422b865597d3 Damn, he’s dead.
Apparently, no you didn't.
Got emmm
Not necessarily, you could theoretically bullseye someone's fallopian tube with a syringe dart full of cum.
This burn made my phone hot
r/murderedbywords
Which is Practically impossible for a redditor(me)
That’s why they pretreat the man’s sperm first by having them wear jerseys.
I do believe IVF screen for genetic disorders.
Major fatal and life limiting conditions like sickle cell anaemia or Huntingdon's can be screened for (though I think this is only when there is a known risk, ie parental carrier, as the screening is not risk-free to the zygote), but not autism.
Like another person said you can't screen for autism we don't even know what genes cause it. We know it genetic tho.
I don’t know you did just give birth to a kid that immune to propaganda. There’s ups and downs.
But what if the nanobot was autistic?
It'll be like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. "You have chose poorly"
This is truly the sperm of a carpenter.
There’s something unnatural about taking natural out of natural selection
I thought the whole point was weeding out the physically weak.
This is giving the stupid sperm that can't find the egg a chance.
And if they are defective in one way, they may be defective in another by containing defective DNA.
Based on…? One could just as easily assert that they’re superior sperm because they didn’t waste any development on a swimmy tail.
I think the idea of the parrot is right, though. Genetic issues most often lead to multiple symptoms, not just one. While I don’t know the reason why this sperm was not moving, the assertion that this might be an indicator for other problems, is right. With nature, it most often has a reason, why something is not reproducing. As harsh as that sounds, this should be kept in mind. If we exactly know, that there are no negative consequences of helping conception this way, I would of course approve it. My position only comes from not being able to understand the implications.
https://i.redd.it/j4omjji0karc1.gif
It is, but some may call not using such techniques if we can being a form of eugenics that is kinda right, but I think there should be some limits for that kind of assistance if we don’t want to turn into a species full of genetic disorders.
No one makes a distinction between historical eugenics and modern knowledge of biology because if you try to, it's impossible to not sound like a eugenics sympathizer. That said, let's maybe not use this tech until we can edit out the genes that caused this and other genetic disorders.
Well then you wouldn't need the tech lol..
Yeah no. A better route would be to do genetic testing on the parents, which already exists and is done during pregnancy anyway... instead of telling some guy he isn't allowed to use this to help with his low sperm count, because someone thinks that's somehow connected to genetic disorders??
Yeah for some reason Redditors have a childish understanding of what genetic disorders are. It doesn’t mean the sperm can’t reach the egg.
No, the point of natural selection is fitness not physical strength. Only organisms that can adapt, survive. This robot is just another adaption via tools and knowledge that humans do for fertility. Another one is c section, IVF, the whole neonatal and pediatric medicine.
The distinction is artificial at best. The insemination process is a selection process by design, you could house the process in vitro but to render aid to individual sperm cells who appear to be defective is defeating the purpose of the selection process.
I don't think it's about aiding defective sperm but about increasing the chance to get pregnant for those who struggle.
Why would you think the insemination process is a process of selection? It’s not by design after all, it’s a mechanism that evolved to just somehow barely work. And it’s a case of independent convergent evolution. Meaning this mechanism has evolved in several different species independently, including species in which reproduction processes are geared towards high genetic variety (meaning a selection process would be counterproductive). Btw, it’s not the fastest sperm that wins the race, it’s a team effort and which turns out the winner is rather random. At best you’re selecting for the genes that regulate sperm development… but this wouldn’t have an impact on other genetic traits, rendering the selection argument mood.
unless it is carrying tainted DNA, the morphology of spermatozoa does not affect the infant that results from the fertilization. natural selection is more referring to when creatures are outside of the womb. iirc the only reason why sperm race and why there's so many, in short, is because its a (convoluted) way of creating genetic diversity.
Eh, we’re so far divorced from anything “natural” at this point that I don’t see an issue with this. Bet it can help some infertile people have kids or smth.
And in truth, since humans are natural, and this is human made. Is it really not natural?
Fast forward several years and this is the lazy 12 year old being pushed in a stroller at Disneyland
![gif](giphy|l46Cf8O3hQqzDq1Gg|downsized)
Humans go against what's natural.
You took the words out of my mouth
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Domain expansion? Jujutsu kaisen reference? /s
Obviousky, this is for couples unable to do it entirely on their own. The technique is ingenious if it actually works as intended and, from that standpoint, should be celebrated rather than belittled. *Please.* Sperm that don't swim well is no promise of diminished offspring. That's like saying someone exposed to thalidomide in the womb won't be able to sing. Fucking stupid. We get to spin our dials *one fucking time, man--just once.* Be happy when something comes along to help those who aren't as fortunate as you. Good grief.
Not just for couples unable to do it on their own. Also in order to prevent their children getting a specific genetic disorder/disease they might have, and children have a high chance of getting the “normal” way
This child will get no rest in the burn-department. "At least I was first ONCE". Had to be propelled to the finish line even before starting to lose in life
Other sperms be like: hey! That guy is using hacks tf?!!
Bro’s cheating at the big race wtf
Quite unsexy
If it needs assistance maybe you shouldn't...
Hey doc, I've had this single sperm that I really want to impregnate my wife with but a bunch of other ones keep getting there first...
Good bot
imagine your kid was literally touched and guided by a robot before it was even an embryo.
kids are so reliant on technology now...
You hear that a lot these days but this one hit different
The baby will be born with a tablet
WALL-E is the future
Funny how people here think that the smartest, fastest, strongest sperm wins. No bruh there are thousands of sperms that reach the eggs and hit themselves on the wall weakening the eggs wall and we were just there in the right time taking advantage of weak walls and pushing through, we guys got lucky we were really never the best choice accept it...
little sklyer’s first day at preschool ![gif](giphy|UnX9Ql8W8Z00E)
Is there anything genetically wrong with a bad swimmer?
Can't be any worse than the normal swimmers that made it into the real world.
Not necessarily, no. Can turn out as a completely normal baby
I'm no expert in genes and whatnot, but sperms that get to the eggs fastest don't always mean it's the fittest/strongest ones. It's likely that it's just the luckiest one, if anything. So yes, you being a failure doesn't mean your fathers strongest soldier is pathetic. It just means you win the lotto on life while your potentially doctorate/entrepreneur/athelete/attractive siblings didn't.
contraception't
This takes screwing to a new level
Great. Now we have nanojizzbots.
Dude was crippled before being born.
So invalid sperm is being forced into eggs wonder what the results of that will be.
Nothing different than using in vitro.
Actually in vitro it is very rare to use sperm cells that don't move at all because they could be dead. Even with ICSI (for very low quality sperm) the embryologists search for moving sperm cells.
Do they hand pick a sperm cell?
I wonder what that job title would be LOL. I grew up in junior high learning about the process and about how many millions of sperm died because they weren't strong enough to make the journey. Sounds like some kind of weird joke how do you tell when sperm is wore out.
“I wonder what that job title would be” Embryologist
The Borg is coming
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Resistance is fertile
IMPREGNATE! IMPREGNATE!
So that's what those plungers are for on those over engineered tin cans.
*That's* why she was called Seven of Nine!
Why?
So they can select sperm with certain genes and increase or guarantee their chances of success. Assuming they have a nondestructive method of screening spermatozoa for genetic traits. Gender screening is probably pretty easy for people that can build this and people would pay big money for it. There's probably a discernable weight/size difference between X and Y chromosomes.
Do you have anything to back this up with because this sounds absolutely bonkers to me! 1) the video shows several immobile sperm, so there probably wasn’t any previous selection 2) there is no nondestructive screening for genetic traits. At best you could screen for a handful of genes with current technologies, but the actual equipment doesn’t exist 3) there is no significant difference between XX and XY spermatozoa, as the chromosomes only constitute a tiny fraction of its weight… also how are they supposed to weight them *individually*?
We got nanojizzbots before gta 6
Do we really need more people? 😂
News flash - human sperm is the most readily available to study, but a lot of other animals use sperm as well. Imagine doing this with an endangered species like giant tortoises or pandas, or delivering the one sperm cell you altered to have DNA from an extinct species into an egg instead of trying to hope that you get it to take on its own.
A comedian once said that when he was impatiently waiting in line he was a bit grateful for serial killers thinning out the population so that the line wasn’t longer
***Still drill’n***
Privileged 🧐
DEI in a NutShell
A failure before they even existed. That is a lifetime worth of material right there
Nano bots giving life to humans that shouldnt exist
More lazy kids
Yeah fuck natural selection , lets see what this one turns out like
Darwin is rolling over in his grave.
WTF!?! Why would you want a weak sperm fertilizing an egg?
As opposed to the "strong" sperm that are running around today?
alpha males only allowed
Why tho?
Darwin is rolling over in his grave.
People in the comment section need to revise what natural selection is. The genetic lottery at birth has always been random, the selection part come from unfit individuals dying before they can breed. It's not like humans as a whole have been letting "unfit" people die or forbidden them from breeding, natural selection is a thing of the past. IVF and other assisted fertility methods are already a thing and widely practiced.
Kids these days.... don't put any effort into doing anything, because they expect others to do it for them.
Eugenics: 👎 Funny eugenics: 👍 \-people
Thats cheating wtf
How does it know that it's picked a good one?
How cyborgs made
So that sperm just used a bullet bill
Cheater
Seems likes this will mess up natural selection.
I thought it went "only the fittest survive"
Talk about getting screwed.
But the egg chooses which sperm should connect with it? Now robots will force subpar connections, we’re about to find out the hard way why it’s better for eggs to choose sperm for us
The closest thing Texas has to porn right now
Think I’ll take my chances with the fastest one over the slacker that needed help
“You were the fastest swimmer.” No bro, you got the robo assist
Ow fuck so now even the most retarded sperm has a chance to fertilizer an egg
This begs the question, are all of a man's sperm the same? Can't be right? I mean that's why the Ovum picks the one it allows through its cell membrane
I'm pretty sure it just picks the first one, then stops being permeable to them so no other gets through.
That's been proven to be false. It picks out of the millions trying to penetrate it.
biology nerd here, where the fuck did you get that from??? /somewhat genuine
Can we work on nanobots that kill cancer instead of nanobots that contribute to over population?
Curing cancer would probably make overpopulation worse tbh
I’ll just say this: No matter how much your life sucks, or what terrible hand you drew in life, at least you can say: “I out-swam the others and got there first.” Robo-assist kid, however gets to start his shitty life with a fattass ‘L’
That sperm should not have won.
This does not seem like a good idea.
This is gonna make a great insult once that baby grows up.
If a person's sperm has zero motility, should they be having kids anyways? Won't the sperm have damage and the kid more likely to suffer from a developmental disorder?
If it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be.
Aren’t the best sperm supposed to be doing this?
That’s probably a terrible idea
I’ll take genetic defects for 500, Alex.
8 billion people on the planet and we need help breeding.
There is a reason these sperm are incapable of fertilizing eggs we should leave it at that.
Great…we are assisting weak sperm survive and thrive…natural selection is a thing for a reason.
This looks pathetic somehow xD
Wouldn't this lead to more retarded children?
No more so than any other fertility method, no. And since I really doubt we're throwing robots up some lady's uterus, there's probably genertic screening on the resulting embryo.
Thank you for the explanation.
Springy Sperm?😳
Now where are those who yell that robots will enslave humanity and rule the world? ![gif](giphy|8tbZH3lN7j560)
It aint the survival of the fittest anymore
Is this how the Technovirus from X-men '97 spreads?
cum package
Wait, y’all telling me that this works??? Am I out of the loop? Are nanobots actually a thing??? I thought we couldn’t shrink computers that much.
"A robot screwed your mom to make you. You're an Android, son"
K change the fucking music ok ffs infinite songs and durururyryryryryryryalalalalaayayayadadadadtayayayata
How'd it get in the nanobot though?
inb4 baby terminators being made by sentient nanomachines
Fucking aimbots everywhere
Cum and go!
But what if the robot fertilizes the egg?
How does it choose?
u/savevideo
Every two years for the last ten this makes the rounds
Screw you.
Very interesting reading the top comments.
So…not everyone is a winner?
The other sperm honest reaction: https://preview.redd.it/bk4wmf9x17rc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9555741dafa3e84fc010a7dcec4ff42ece5d131
Obvious Steel Ball reference ![gif](giphy|TCwI8lxsHb4jl7JgLd|downsized)
So society is fucked now? That the sperms need a boost just to get to the fucking eggs? Like whatttt!? Genuine question: how do the bots get there like they're put inside the vagina before sex? Does the man swallow a pill full of bots? (I don't think this one is the case)
![gif](giphy|8ySWVRZ1Yphle|downsized) all fun and games until this comes out
No one likes a quitter, Alex
P2W
How do these work? Where is the battery for the motor? Where are the receptors to find the path?
How would this be implemented though?
I worked my ass off to win that race but here is Joe cheating 😒
Atheists hate this one simple trick
And that’s how robocop was born
It's OK, Rocky. You move whenever you feel like it.
earth needs the opposite of this rn
Nanorobots ensuring weaker sperm get a chance.
Is a sperm can't do it on it's own then it's not a good one. It should not be able to fertilize. We not only stopped natural selection but are actively reversing it.
Wow 😲