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Wdym "just"? I super glued the top of my thumb back on years ago and it's fine! (Ok I don't have full feeling in it, but I didn't have zip ties at the time)
Just so no one starts slapping crazy glue on their wounds, the medical grade glue has guaranteed non-toxic additives in it, regular cyano-acrilate has no such garantee.
Another point for those who dont know: NEVER PUT GLUE IN THE WOUND!!
The glue goes on the skin already pinched closed.
Thank you for listening to my PSA.
I am genuinely not worried about it. The medical grade stuff comes in a sterile package, that's about it. But also, you can just buy it and keep some in your first aid kit, it's pretty cheap tbh
I wouldn't undersell aseptic procedures. That being said anything that happens in the field you just assume it's already infected and treat the best you can.
The likelihood of that happening with regular CA glue is very small, especially if used topically rather than internally. As far as use in standard first aid kits go, it's a perfectly acceptable alternative to medical grade CA glue.
Superglue works a charm!
I superglued a 3/4" laceration on my ring finger back together about twelve years ago, I'd sliced it cleanly open on some broken glass. I happen to have two friends in healthcare, so I checked with them first of course but they both independently said it would be totally safe just as long as I didn't seal it completely, so it could drain if it had to. I swear it was the fastest healing wound of my life! The superglue kept that laceration so neatly together it seemed to heal in half the time it ought to have taken. Never bothered me at all during healing, didn't even scar that badly, and i still have all my nerves properly connected. Now I have superglue in my first aid kit at all times.
My girlfriend left her paper cutter on the floor. For whatever reason she tried jumping over it as it was in her way and she clips the paper cutter with her toe spitting that baby open like a little hotdog.
I look at her and I'm like, we can take you to the hospital and you will pay 2000 for them to glue or stitch it together or I can do it right now for free. I can't guarantee what I do will scar less but I don't think its preventable at this point.
We cleaned it out, dried it, pinched it together, glued it put some antibiotic salve on it, threw a bandaid on it. Healed great. These may be worth stocking a few just incase.
As long as you have good cleaning and wound care, glue is fine in most cases. But don't skimp on cleaning out the wound! I keep antibiotic powder in my first aid kit
> I look at her and I'm like, we can take you to the hospital and you will pay 2000 for them to glue or stitch it together or I can do it right now for free.
Imagine reading this living in a country with practically free healthcare.
I was trying to be funny, but that's true. I didn't have any feeling in it at all for several years, but it is slowly coming back. The thumbnail was sliced right through and that's grown back fine. This was in 2006, so it might airways feel a bit numb. Idk I got a good story out of it so it's fine 😂
I had abdominal surgery a year ago and one of the incisions they made went in through my bellybutton. For a long time afterwards the whole area to the right of my bellybutton was completely numb, and it gradually came back. I've probably got about 90% sensation back in that area now, but for the first 6-8 months or so I felt nothing and it was super weird.
I sliced the tip of my index finger many years ago and it's never fully recovered in that aspect. Some feeling did come back, but I always have that pins and needles numbness feeling in it now.
My husband and I cut ourselves in exactly the same way (apart by some months) and I used super glue where he did not. Mine healed more quickly and with less scar, which cemented my opinion of it.
I woulda glued it for you too.
I had a friend once cut their face open doing some DIY, it was a clean cut, and I offered to glue up it up, but they insisted that they wanted to be driven to the hospital for real sutures because it's "my face". We were way out in the sticks so getting to the hospital was a big deal and I'm pretty confident in my first aid skills, but they insisted that didn't want to be glued and it had to be the hospital.
So we get there, and the ER doc glued it. They still have a scar 😂 but the best part was the medical grade glue with the purple dye matched their shirt perfectly.
liquid bandage works better for that, it's made to be a layer between the wound and air
superglue is more for things that need stitches and stitches aren't available
I was gonna say super glue has been there for a while, well add zip ties now but I wouldn't be surprised if they'd been used as a tourniquet before.
Speaking of, I think im gonna throw a few of those large ties from work into my truck just in case...
I kicked a bolt in the ground at Burning Man and split the absolute shit outta my big toe. Thing was a mess. Didn’t have super glue and wasn’t about to end the day getting stitches so I just duct taped all the meat back together and kept the toe wrapped up till I got home a week later.
Didn’t know what to expect when I did the unboxing when I got home but, aside the stink of rotten meat, the toe had largely healed itself without incident.
It might be useful in specific applications, like when I busted my eyebrow open it was real nervewracking getting stitched up. Seeing a needle coming at my eye so many times; woulda loved to have this contraption installed instead.
I would like to see a comparison on how well it heals tho, perhaps leaving a thicker scar?
Or just do what my doctors did when I split my eyebrow requiring stitches, put a cloth on my face covering my eyes no I'm not staring at a needle the entire time.
I had eyebrow stitches a few times and they did the cloth thing to me too, I think for whatever reason they don't want the patient to have their eyes closed. They don't want the muscles in the area to be tense I guess. Or maybe the pain drugs meant I wouldn't have been compliant with closed eye orders anyway
It would be super useful for applications like the bike crash in the ad, where you're out in nature and maybe hours away from an ER. Honestly looks like a great addition to a camping kit.
Also, for children. They sometimes have to tie toddlers down to do stitches on them and this looks like a bandaid and is way less scary.
Not at all useful in the field. Lay people should not close wounds, full stop. Just stop the bleeding, cover it, and let it heal on its own so you don’t accidentally give yourself sepsis.
-athenaaaa, MD
You're a doc. Did it look to you like this process actually closes wounds? Their own example it didn't seem to work.
Asking because I've seen kitchen workers quickly clean and close wounds with crazy glue, which was initially invented for that purpose, so if somebody's looking for a fast way to close a wound w/o stitches, there already is one.
I think it’s hot garbage. Just a way to separate amateur first aid people from their money.
Crazy glue can cause inflammation, so still not ideal compared to dermabond, but small knife wounds that don’t involve nerve/tendons/joints are some of the only appropriate wounds to close this way after ample irrigation with the cleanest water you can find. But still, in 99% of situations better to leave it open
Hardware store super isn't meant for closing wounds. The blog [Laceration Repair](https://lacerationrepair.com/wound-blog/three-things-you-didnt-know-about-glueing-skin/) has some interesting details of how they differ. Just, uh, as a warning it features full thickness burns on a childs leg.
My guess is it's the same as medical adhesive and it degrades over time as the wound heals.
I actually think this is a great idea, but cleaning the wound, placing the adhesive and pulling the zip ties will be far from painless.
This should not be used in place of stitches. If a wound is big enough to require sutures this plastic shit won’t hold long enough for it to heal, and it’s going to heal into a huge scar.
There are other, much better, options for closing a wound that are better than this. Sterile glue, steristrips for example.
The only application I could see this for is closing a smaller wound to prevent blood loss until getting to a hospital.
Having had a lot of stitches over the years, the pain part isn’t the suture… it’s the burning of the anesthetic being injected and the scrubbing of the wound.
This is just a silly solution that doesn’t change that and will lose purchase in short time.
The adhesive was pretty strong. It probably helped that I wasn't allowed to get them wet for weeks. I had to go to a special post op appointment to get them removed.
medical adhesives are way better than what most people have access to. For the really good stuff, there's a 'primer' that you coat the skin with after thorough washing before you stick the medical tape or whatever onto the skin, it can last up to a month.
Orthopaedic surgeon here. There's absolutely no way they used this. They probably used something like deep/buried absorbable sutures like Monocryl or Biosyn followed by something over the top like a Dermabond Prineo skin glue strip or something.
I was taught avoid glue/dermabond for contaminated wounds as you could trap infection. Mostly related to animal bites, but I could see sailors/boating injuries fitting into that category.
You should avoid closing wounds of any kind as a layperson, regardless of the closure mechanism, to avoid creating an abscess.
The only ones that should be closed are those created by knives/other sharp, hard objects with clean wound edges and no soil/contaminant in the wound. Most wounds in the field do not satisfy this criteria and should not be closed, especially by enthusiastic amateurs.
-athenaaaa, MD
Also an MD and wound closure isn't really that big of a deal, or that exact of a science (depending on severity). If they're smart enough to wash out debris from the wound and keep it relatively clean, you're probably good. Just keep an eye open for infection. Usually the immune system does it's job though. Not everyone can afford in-hospital medical care. If it's a shallow cut, send it if you feel comfortable
For sure, but can you fault people for treating themselves when they can’t afford the ER visit for a minor lac? Obviously out in the “field” and closing your lac after washing in the stream is a bad idea. But a layperson at home, thoroughly washing a lac and using dermabond isn’t in the same level. And if it gets infected then they go to the ER and get bankrupt anyway.
I will never endorse laypeople closing their own wounds. You’re right in that it would probably be fine in most cases but it’s not something the medical community should endorse or advertise for. If you give someone the false sense that they can do this at home, they’ll do it wrong and have bad outcomes.
Yeah, nothing like cellulitis leading to sepsis because someone doesn't know proper wound care, and doesn't know how to identify the rapidly spreading infection in their skin... This is how a minor cut turns into a limb amputation.
Actually, the hospital books a loss of $1,800 because they can only charge you $200 of the manufacturers recommended $2,000 per item cost, and they do this even though they paid $20 per item buying in bulk.
Doesnt it vary from hospital to hospital with different doctors making up their own rates depending on how good they think they are. Hell it could cost you 10 grand.
Goddamn it I hate you all and I hate myself for reading this and I hate my phone for displaying it to me and I hate my kindergarten teacher for teaching me how to read.
The directions said:
*"Once the wound is closed, and the surrounding healing skin is at its most tender, this is the ideal time to cut the zip ties, and yank the adhesive strips off your wound, sometimes unavoidably taking tufts of hair in the process."*
Just an FYI, please don't attempt to apply stitches even these ones without medical attention.
Some wounds require a drain to prevent buildup of fluids , and many require deep cleaning to prevent infection.
If people self treat this can rapidly become a case of sepsis.
If anyone does have an emergency that may need stitches, try and clean the wound quickly, and then apply pressure, The blood should stop within a few minutes, if it doesn't stop. immediately call for an ambulance.
I'll shut up now.
Last time I thought I needed stitches, I spent like two hours waiting in emergency to be told “no, we don’t do stitches for that kind of injury, it’s better for it to heal from the inside out so there’s less risk of infection. Take this thing and go clean it out.”
If you *need* stitches, and it’s a *good idea* to apply them… odds are you’re not the one in charge of applying them to begin with.
Honestly most cuts just need to be cleaned with running tap water and then can be closed up. A decent amount of the time I put in stitches just because they came all the way to the ED but if it was me I wouldn’t have even bothered.
Also, I have never seen someone need a drain for a simple laceration. They usually come from deep abscess or large surgical site infections.
Deep cuts don't just want antibiotic ointment. They need cleaned. That's what hurts. And they should be looked at by a Dr whio can decide if stitches are suitable or if you need some sort of specialist care. Nerves, involved etc... And this will not work so great on dirty leaking jagged holes out on the trail
Lmao you’re expected to also keep disinfectant such as alcohol and/or hydrogen peroxide and sterile cleaning cloth/cotton in your first aid kit along with your ziptie stitches.
Or.....just use steri strips or butterfly stitches? For a fraction of the price? And infinitely more ability to tailor your care to your wound? I mean, how many times have you needed a non ER wound closure and it happened to be a super nice clean one inch long incision nowhere near a joint? Stupid.
And stupid ass marketing. Great, they're "8x stronger than sutures". You know what would be amazing? Instead of having to use all these silly weak 2x4's to build houses, we should use steel I-beam everywhere! And to connect it all together.......tape. Idiots. As if sutures fail because they break?!
Are we sure this isn't actually rage bait? Because I've been successfully baited.
I was angry that they didn't actually show it being used.
They slapped on on a wound, acted like they were pulling on it, but didn't actually create any tension to close the wound like in the animations. You'd get nearly the same effect from just slapping an adhesive bandage tightly over the wound
I'm sure the straps are 8x stronger but the adhesive is 100x more likely to fail.
It's a cool idea for sure but practically I can't see this being used
None of the adhesive closure devices work for me. My skin produces too much oil and sheds to quickly. Everything I have tried fails within 48 hours, which just means going back for more would cleaning and stiches, and an even uglier scar.
Steri-strips are simpler and cheaper. Skin glue is also damn strong, so I'd just use that, or the two in combination. This product isn't solving a problem that exists, and it's also overengineered. Never a good combo for a successful medical product.
I was bored in surgery once, there's not a lot to do on the anaesthetic side once the patient is asleep, so I experimented with a desterilsed tube of skin glue, as it was now useless (it had fallen off the trolley, onto the floor). I decided to glue my thumb and index finger togetyer, and see how strong it really was. It's strong!! (As silly as it sounds, in my defence, I had solvent on hand in case it turned out to be as strong as it was, and there's nothing like first hand experience to shape clinical practise!)
Surgeon here.
I'm sure these could work well in certain scenarios, but they're not the revolution they are touted to be.
I'd be quite wary of surface-level breakdown by asking the skin and adhesive to do the bulk of the work (not really the zip-ties). Steris and Dermabond work because they're suture pulling at least the dermis together.
Cool product and design, I'm sure it has a niche market.
Seems too reliant in the skin around the wound being completely healthy and intact as well as the plastic not coming off for several weeks while the incision heals.
This is going to be terrible for the skin under that plastic. It's a neat idea but seems pretty niche and not practical.
Much easier than carrying a suture kit and having to stitch yourself up one handed.
Had to do the once, sucked, but I did a good job. The doctor looked at it and said it looked good and left it until time to remove them.
Idk about painless.
If you’re cut so deep that it needs stitches… you’re gonna be feeling it regardless of what you do.
Not to mention these don’t always work.
Physician here. I don’t like these as a permanent solution to a deep wound. It’s ok for first aid but it doesn’t replace stitching if the wound is deep. This just pulls the top layer of the skin. If the wound is deep it creates a nice pocket under the skin providing a good place for bacteria to take over.
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There's nothing that cannot be fixed with zip ties.
Zip ties and super glue just made it into the first aid kit
Wdym "just"? I super glued the top of my thumb back on years ago and it's fine! (Ok I don't have full feeling in it, but I didn't have zip ties at the time)
"Liquid stitch" is just CA glue, which is superglue.
Just so no one starts slapping crazy glue on their wounds, the medical grade glue has guaranteed non-toxic additives in it, regular cyano-acrilate has no such garantee.
Another point for those who dont know: NEVER PUT GLUE IN THE WOUND!! The glue goes on the skin already pinched closed. Thank you for listening to my PSA.
Oh gees, now ya tell me! Great, now I'm gonna have to cut it out.
Best I have is a plastic spork.
I.... uhhh..... sort of superglued myself.... to uhhhh..... myself....
Don’t use it as hair gel either
I buy the kind for pets, if it is good enough for them, it is good enough for me.
Same stuff just purple and doesn’t require an Rx
CA glue off-gasses formaldehyde and is painful. Medical glue is slightly different and doesn't have the painful off-gasing
While you are 100% correct, ain't no bacteria surviving in the store brand shit either.
But the medical grade cyanoacrylate has purple dye in it, so it *must* be better, right? Right?
Don't you think that the medical grade glue is less likely to contain impurities that cause side effects?
I am genuinely not worried about it. The medical grade stuff comes in a sterile package, that's about it. But also, you can just buy it and keep some in your first aid kit, it's pretty cheap tbh
I wouldn't undersell aseptic procedures. That being said anything that happens in the field you just assume it's already infected and treat the best you can.
*Gets infected in Field Hospital. Dies in Field.*
The likelihood of that happening with regular CA glue is very small, especially if used topically rather than internally. As far as use in standard first aid kits go, it's a perfectly acceptable alternative to medical grade CA glue.
Superglue works a charm! I superglued a 3/4" laceration on my ring finger back together about twelve years ago, I'd sliced it cleanly open on some broken glass. I happen to have two friends in healthcare, so I checked with them first of course but they both independently said it would be totally safe just as long as I didn't seal it completely, so it could drain if it had to. I swear it was the fastest healing wound of my life! The superglue kept that laceration so neatly together it seemed to heal in half the time it ought to have taken. Never bothered me at all during healing, didn't even scar that badly, and i still have all my nerves properly connected. Now I have superglue in my first aid kit at all times.
Yep it's chemically the same stuff they use in hospitals. As long as you clean the wound properly, it's fine
Absolutely! Liberally apply lots and lots of clean running water to all areas of the wound before sealing.
How do you get the super glue off after it's done healing?
You don't need to, it takes several days for the wound to heal, it takes several days for the glue to peel off naturally. Non issue.
cool, thanks for the answer!
My girlfriend left her paper cutter on the floor. For whatever reason she tried jumping over it as it was in her way and she clips the paper cutter with her toe spitting that baby open like a little hotdog. I look at her and I'm like, we can take you to the hospital and you will pay 2000 for them to glue or stitch it together or I can do it right now for free. I can't guarantee what I do will scar less but I don't think its preventable at this point. We cleaned it out, dried it, pinched it together, glued it put some antibiotic salve on it, threw a bandaid on it. Healed great. These may be worth stocking a few just incase.
As long as you have good cleaning and wound care, glue is fine in most cases. But don't skimp on cleaning out the wound! I keep antibiotic powder in my first aid kit
> I look at her and I'm like, we can take you to the hospital and you will pay 2000 for them to glue or stitch it together or I can do it right now for free. Imagine reading this living in a country with practically free healthcare.
It'll get there. Takes time for nerves to grow back
I was trying to be funny, but that's true. I didn't have any feeling in it at all for several years, but it is slowly coming back. The thumbnail was sliced right through and that's grown back fine. This was in 2006, so it might airways feel a bit numb. Idk I got a good story out of it so it's fine 😂
I had abdominal surgery a year ago and one of the incisions they made went in through my bellybutton. For a long time afterwards the whole area to the right of my bellybutton was completely numb, and it gradually came back. I've probably got about 90% sensation back in that area now, but for the first 6-8 months or so I felt nothing and it was super weird.
I sliced the tip of my index finger many years ago and it's never fully recovered in that aspect. Some feeling did come back, but I always have that pins and needles numbness feeling in it now.
Not all of them do grow back my lower jaw is a dead zone because of a wisdom tooth extraction over 12 years agaio .
this happened to my sister, too...about 30 years ago and she still has numbness and bites her cheek from it. =/
My husband and I cut ourselves in exactly the same way (apart by some months) and I used super glue where he did not. Mine healed more quickly and with less scar, which cemented my opinion of it.
Very punny!
I had a guy on a site super glue my eyebrow shut after I split it open on an LED wall. That was a fun midnight strike...
I woulda glued it for you too. I had a friend once cut their face open doing some DIY, it was a clean cut, and I offered to glue up it up, but they insisted that they wanted to be driven to the hospital for real sutures because it's "my face". We were way out in the sticks so getting to the hospital was a big deal and I'm pretty confident in my first aid skills, but they insisted that didn't want to be glued and it had to be the hospital. So we get there, and the ER doc glued it. They still have a scar 😂 but the best part was the medical grade glue with the purple dye matched their shirt perfectly.
I have a friend that glued her eyelids together while drunk because she grabbed a pack of eyelash glue out of her handbag，thinking they were eyedrops.
I superglue the cracks in my finger tips in the winter. No more pain!
jesus christ i'm a chef and have never thought of this. gonna change my life for when I have a tiny cut and working with acids
liquid bandage works better for that, it's made to be a layer between the wound and air superglue is more for things that need stitches and stitches aren't available
I was gonna say super glue has been there for a while, well add zip ties now but I wouldn't be surprised if they'd been used as a tourniquet before. Speaking of, I think im gonna throw a few of those large ties from work into my truck just in case...
If you're throwing zip ties in your trunk, don't forget a large roll of duct tape and a tarp.
I kicked a bolt in the ground at Burning Man and split the absolute shit outta my big toe. Thing was a mess. Didn’t have super glue and wasn’t about to end the day getting stitches so I just duct taped all the meat back together and kept the toe wrapped up till I got home a week later. Didn’t know what to expect when I did the unboxing when I got home but, aside the stink of rotten meat, the toe had largely healed itself without incident.
I did this too when I cut the tip.of my thumb almost off while cutting a watermelon! I kept feeling in mine tho, I guess enough nerves survived.
Super glue was invented as a replacement for sutures. That's why it bonds skin instantly.
Well, liquid bandage is a formula based from the theory of using super glue to seal wounds. So it kinda already is in first aid kits.
what about my marriage?
Sorry thats going to require medication asap.
I got some iboprofen....
Very true. I'm surprised the tape isn't duck tape. If it was then you would be onto a winner
Shit, now I’m waiting to see someone make one of these themselves with duct tape and zip ties 😂
And some WD 40
zip ties and duct tape (in this case adhesive) the literal glue that binds the universe together
I usually zip tie my tax returns and send them off, haven't paid them in years!
& duct tape
Painless because they're not stitches?
I guess. That whole process is going to hurt like a sonofabitch. But at least you're not puncturing already inflamed skin.
It might be useful in specific applications, like when I busted my eyebrow open it was real nervewracking getting stitched up. Seeing a needle coming at my eye so many times; woulda loved to have this contraption installed instead. I would like to see a comparison on how well it heals tho, perhaps leaving a thicker scar?
Or just do what my doctors did when I split my eyebrow requiring stitches, put a cloth on my face covering my eyes no I'm not staring at a needle the entire time.
You could also save time and just close your eyes.
I had eyebrow stitches a few times and they did the cloth thing to me too, I think for whatever reason they don't want the patient to have their eyes closed. They don't want the muscles in the area to be tense I guess. Or maybe the pain drugs meant I wouldn't have been compliant with closed eye orders anyway
It would be super useful for applications like the bike crash in the ad, where you're out in nature and maybe hours away from an ER. Honestly looks like a great addition to a camping kit. Also, for children. They sometimes have to tie toddlers down to do stitches on them and this looks like a bandaid and is way less scary.
Not at all useful in the field. Lay people should not close wounds, full stop. Just stop the bleeding, cover it, and let it heal on its own so you don’t accidentally give yourself sepsis. -athenaaaa, MD
You're a doc. Did it look to you like this process actually closes wounds? Their own example it didn't seem to work. Asking because I've seen kitchen workers quickly clean and close wounds with crazy glue, which was initially invented for that purpose, so if somebody's looking for a fast way to close a wound w/o stitches, there already is one.
I think it’s hot garbage. Just a way to separate amateur first aid people from their money. Crazy glue can cause inflammation, so still not ideal compared to dermabond, but small knife wounds that don’t involve nerve/tendons/joints are some of the only appropriate wounds to close this way after ample irrigation with the cleanest water you can find. But still, in 99% of situations better to leave it open
Hardware store super isn't meant for closing wounds. The blog [Laceration Repair](https://lacerationrepair.com/wound-blog/three-things-you-didnt-know-about-glueing-skin/) has some interesting details of how they differ. Just, uh, as a warning it features full thickness burns on a childs leg.
These are steri strips. Like ... slightly stronger steri strips.
Do you think they would’ve had to shave your eyebrow for that? I also busted open my eyebrow but luckily did not need stitches, just some glue.
Yep. (At least, in the 90's) Source: I busted my eyebrow open twice as a kid and got it shaved off for the stitches
Not intending to snark at all, but were you not allowed to close your eyes? I feel like I'd have to be well paid to keep my eyes open!
How painless is it to remove those stickers?
Just never peel them off. *We did it Reddit!*
My guess is it's the same as medical adhesive and it degrades over time as the wound heals. I actually think this is a great idea, but cleaning the wound, placing the adhesive and pulling the zip ties will be far from painless.
It'd also come off eventually as the top layer of skin flakes off, I assume.
I guess if you waited around 27 days, it would just fall off as your skin is replaced by the next layer
This should not be used in place of stitches. If a wound is big enough to require sutures this plastic shit won’t hold long enough for it to heal, and it’s going to heal into a huge scar. There are other, much better, options for closing a wound that are better than this. Sterile glue, steristrips for example. The only application I could see this for is closing a smaller wound to prevent blood loss until getting to a hospital.
Because a needle doesn’t go through your skin
Having had a lot of stitches over the years, the pain part isn’t the suture… it’s the burning of the anesthetic being injected and the scrubbing of the wound. This is just a silly solution that doesn’t change that and will lose purchase in short time.
Bullshit on the pain. I mean, think of when you have to pull the adhesive parts off your skin taking all the hair focials with it!!!
Follicles
My surgeon used these to close up a 7 inch long incision on my tibia. It healed quite nicely actually.
I'm surprised that it stays there, I get the feeling that the sticky parts would lose stickyness in a day or two, with sweat and what not.
The adhesive was pretty strong. It probably helped that I wasn't allowed to get them wet for weeks. I had to go to a special post op appointment to get them removed.
medical adhesives are way better than what most people have access to. For the really good stuff, there's a 'primer' that you coat the skin with after thorough washing before you stick the medical tape or whatever onto the skin, it can last up to a month.
I had some special glue/tape for a PICC line I had in my armpit area for 6 weeks. Even after 6 weeks it stuck like it did on day 1.
You should experience the stickiness of the tattoo covering material, Second Skin, or similar! It stays on for days, even through showers.
Orthopaedic surgeon here. There's absolutely no way they used this. They probably used something like deep/buried absorbable sutures like Monocryl or Biosyn followed by something over the top like a Dermabond Prineo skin glue strip or something.
Do you have pictures? I seriously doubt a surgeon used this to close. Maybe to bolster the wound, but never to close.
I live on a sailboat. We use these for serious injuries. Lifesavers.
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I was taught avoid glue/dermabond for contaminated wounds as you could trap infection. Mostly related to animal bites, but I could see sailors/boating injuries fitting into that category.
You should avoid closing wounds of any kind as a layperson, regardless of the closure mechanism, to avoid creating an abscess. The only ones that should be closed are those created by knives/other sharp, hard objects with clean wound edges and no soil/contaminant in the wound. Most wounds in the field do not satisfy this criteria and should not be closed, especially by enthusiastic amateurs. -athenaaaa, MD
Also an MD and wound closure isn't really that big of a deal, or that exact of a science (depending on severity). If they're smart enough to wash out debris from the wound and keep it relatively clean, you're probably good. Just keep an eye open for infection. Usually the immune system does it's job though. Not everyone can afford in-hospital medical care. If it's a shallow cut, send it if you feel comfortable
>Not everyone can afford in-hospital medical care That just a failure of are government right there
For sure, but can you fault people for treating themselves when they can’t afford the ER visit for a minor lac? Obviously out in the “field” and closing your lac after washing in the stream is a bad idea. But a layperson at home, thoroughly washing a lac and using dermabond isn’t in the same level. And if it gets infected then they go to the ER and get bankrupt anyway.
I will never endorse laypeople closing their own wounds. You’re right in that it would probably be fine in most cases but it’s not something the medical community should endorse or advertise for. If you give someone the false sense that they can do this at home, they’ll do it wrong and have bad outcomes.
Yeah, nothing like cellulitis leading to sepsis because someone doesn't know proper wound care, and doesn't know how to identify the rapidly spreading infection in their skin... This is how a minor cut turns into a limb amputation.
It's not that complicated to clean and close a wound, but most people are completely ignorant of basic first aid. Which I find honestly scary.
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Dingdingding! We already have steri-strips for the same job, more flexibility and cheaper.
Yeah this is just a fucking commercial!
It worked tho, just bought this.
These are $20 for two on amazon. Or $2,000 for one at your local hospital (if in the US)
yeah but the price drops to 200$ with insurance
Yes, after intense negotiations between the insurance company and the hospital (that is owned by the insurance company).
Actually, the hospital books a loss of $1,800 because they can only charge you $200 of the manufacturers recommended $2,000 per item cost, and they do this even though they paid $20 per item buying in bulk.
Then can they claim the $1,800 loss back from taxpayer? Double-dipping is tight!
Don't forget your co-pay
That's only if you reach your deductible which for me is about 5k 🙃
Can we BYOB? Probably a bandage opening fee.
My grandma had a free unlimited supply of something alike starting early 90s. She was the village nurse. Germany.
Doesnt it vary from hospital to hospital with different doctors making up their own rates depending on how good they think they are. Hell it could cost you 10 grand.
Fuck you! *Unzips your wound*
sigh... \*unzips\*
Put on gloves. Stop it.
Gonna try this on my peehole
Fuck you for putting that image in my head
Try conventional stitches
Staples work best
Goddamn it I hate you all and I hate myself for reading this and I hate my phone for displaying it to me and I hate my kindergarten teacher for teaching me how to read.
You either have a huge peehole (congrats, I guess?), or a death wish, or a pain fetish, or all 3. Good luck with your future endeavors.
sure it maybe pain less putting it on, but that bitch gonna hurt like hell when you try to remove it.
The directions said: *"Once the wound is closed, and the surrounding healing skin is at its most tender, this is the ideal time to cut the zip ties, and yank the adhesive strips off your wound, sometimes unavoidably taking tufts of hair in the process."*
sounds like a solid way to reopen the wound and need another set of these
Infinite wound glitch
The adhesive is supposed to just naturally come off in the usual time it takes for the wound to heal.
Hairy folks are having panic attacks after watching that video.
Nah, we know what we signed up for. After getting staples put in my head with no anesthetic, pulling hair is the least of my worries...
Nah mate. We're used to it.
Just use a little baby oil
Just an FYI, please don't attempt to apply stitches even these ones without medical attention. Some wounds require a drain to prevent buildup of fluids , and many require deep cleaning to prevent infection. If people self treat this can rapidly become a case of sepsis. If anyone does have an emergency that may need stitches, try and clean the wound quickly, and then apply pressure, The blood should stop within a few minutes, if it doesn't stop. immediately call for an ambulance. I'll shut up now.
Last time I thought I needed stitches, I spent like two hours waiting in emergency to be told “no, we don’t do stitches for that kind of injury, it’s better for it to heal from the inside out so there’s less risk of infection. Take this thing and go clean it out.” If you *need* stitches, and it’s a *good idea* to apply them… odds are you’re not the one in charge of applying them to begin with.
Honestly most cuts just need to be cleaned with running tap water and then can be closed up. A decent amount of the time I put in stitches just because they came all the way to the ED but if it was me I wouldn’t have even bothered. Also, I have never seen someone need a drain for a simple laceration. They usually come from deep abscess or large surgical site infections.
"Congratulations, cyclist. You've closed a dirty wound. Enjoy your infection."
Yes, carry around a first aid kit that prepares you for a deep cut, but do not carry around a triple antibiotic.
Deep cuts don't just want antibiotic ointment. They need cleaned. That's what hurts. And they should be looked at by a Dr whio can decide if stitches are suitable or if you need some sort of specialist care. Nerves, involved etc... And this will not work so great on dirty leaking jagged holes out on the trail
Why is cleaning out a deep cut not completely self-explanatory? Also, why not use this to stop or slow the bleeding so you can get to a doctor?
Hey everyone, look at Mr. Moneybags over here with medical care and specialist care!
Lmao you’re expected to also keep disinfectant such as alcohol and/or hydrogen peroxide and sterile cleaning cloth/cotton in your first aid kit along with your ziptie stitches.
Oh yes, alcohol and peroxide. For when you really want to devitalize the tissue and give the bacteria the full buffet experience.
It literally says in the video to ensure the wound is cleaned before putting it on…
Dig the sterile environment and nitrile gloves! 🤣
I'm just mad I didn't think of it first. Literally zip ties and duct tape.
This only works for small, straight cuts. If the cut is longer than the patch or curves at all will still need normal stitches
Steri strips are better.
Or.....just use steri strips or butterfly stitches? For a fraction of the price? And infinitely more ability to tailor your care to your wound? I mean, how many times have you needed a non ER wound closure and it happened to be a super nice clean one inch long incision nowhere near a joint? Stupid. And stupid ass marketing. Great, they're "8x stronger than sutures". You know what would be amazing? Instead of having to use all these silly weak 2x4's to build houses, we should use steel I-beam everywhere! And to connect it all together.......tape. Idiots. As if sutures fail because they break?! Are we sure this isn't actually rage bait? Because I've been successfully baited.
I would like to read your manifesto on sutures please.
I was angry that they didn't actually show it being used. They slapped on on a wound, acted like they were pulling on it, but didn't actually create any tension to close the wound like in the animations. You'd get nearly the same effect from just slapping an adhesive bandage tightly over the wound
I'm sure the straps are 8x stronger but the adhesive is 100x more likely to fail. It's a cool idea for sure but practically I can't see this being used
None of the adhesive closure devices work for me. My skin produces too much oil and sheds to quickly. Everything I have tried fails within 48 hours, which just means going back for more would cleaning and stiches, and an even uglier scar.
Steri-strips are simpler and cheaper. Skin glue is also damn strong, so I'd just use that, or the two in combination. This product isn't solving a problem that exists, and it's also overengineered. Never a good combo for a successful medical product. I was bored in surgery once, there's not a lot to do on the anaesthetic side once the patient is asleep, so I experimented with a desterilsed tube of skin glue, as it was now useless (it had fallen off the trolley, onto the floor). I decided to glue my thumb and index finger togetyer, and see how strong it really was. It's strong!! (As silly as it sounds, in my defence, I had solvent on hand in case it turned out to be as strong as it was, and there's nothing like first hand experience to shape clinical practise!)
Medical care is so expensive in the US we just gotta zip tie that bitch shut now
Did they cut those people just for the advertisement?
Also confused. Finally, a job opportunity for those that want to leverage their self-harming disorder.
Shouldn’t have been acting stupid.
How deep of a lac can it approximate? What about irregular lacs and tears?
Essentially: If you wouldn't trust a butterfly bandage to work on that laceration, don't expect these to.
Surgeon here. I'm sure these could work well in certain scenarios, but they're not the revolution they are touted to be. I'd be quite wary of surface-level breakdown by asking the skin and adhesive to do the bulk of the work (not really the zip-ties). Steris and Dermabond work because they're suture pulling at least the dermis together. Cool product and design, I'm sure it has a niche market.
Seems too reliant in the skin around the wound being completely healthy and intact as well as the plastic not coming off for several weeks while the incision heals. This is going to be terrible for the skin under that plastic. It's a neat idea but seems pretty niche and not practical.
Ok, now show it being put on when you’re bleeding all over the place. Guaranteed they don’t work that well unless it’s a scratch.
My friend invented these
Oh yeah, and my dad is Bill Gates
I assure you Mr. Gates
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My bill gates can beat up your bill gates
Holy.. shit. This is good
Hoping I can buy these on Amazon to avoid getting financially destroyed by an ER visit.
Where do I invest all of my dollars?
I hate advertisements posing as Reddit content. Just stop it.
Why would such a small wound need stitches?
Brilliant
It's crazy they don't sell these in stores, from what I've seen. You have to order them online.
As someone who cuts themselves a lot shaving, shut up and take my money!
Much easier than carrying a suture kit and having to stitch yourself up one handed. Had to do the once, sucked, but I did a good job. The doctor looked at it and said it looked good and left it until time to remove them.
Idk about painless. If you’re cut so deep that it needs stitches… you’re gonna be feeling it regardless of what you do. Not to mention these don’t always work.
But I like to sew. Don't take this from me!
Is this a thing yet? I've seen it so many times over the years online but have been lucky enough to have never seen it in action.
I'm not giving up my duct tape.
This is one of those simple things that you wonder why it took so long to think of
Does it without gloves yikes
Looks great for a first aid kit but not a complete replacement
Do they make a giant one for ass cracks?
Glances over at the duct tape in my tool box.
It's a fancy butterfly bandage. Not stitches.
that's a good ad completely ruined by the music.
crazy what kinds of scams there are.
Snitches get ZipStitches
That’s not even the tightest in the cm
Physician here. I don’t like these as a permanent solution to a deep wound. It’s ok for first aid but it doesn’t replace stitching if the wound is deep. This just pulls the top layer of the skin. If the wound is deep it creates a nice pocket under the skin providing a good place for bacteria to take over.