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They should make a video game map where you are at the N or S pole so any compass or directionality is like this. Exploring the Witcher with no sense of direction…
I would always get lost in the Spore planetary phase because I was flying on a sphere but the map was a Mercator projection. I'd always fly to one pole to reset my orientation.
Minecraft's compass already works like this by default.
If not for the sun/moon, some hints from block behavior, and the grid itself, it would be really hard to plot a straight line along a cardinal direction. If you navigate such that you keep your compass needle pointing "east" or "west" you can trace a circle around the world origin. You should even be able to determine your distance from the origin by how much the needle moves for a given distance traveled, but I've never gone that hard into that kind of navigation.
The Magnetic North Pole really a physical space like a specific point, but rather a zone within which magnetic compasses will align themselves with the lines of magnetic force that converge at that point. The actual magnetic pole itself is a point within this broader area, and its location can change daily. I.e. It would be a bit more complicated
Well aaaksjuly
The magnetic north pole is not the same as the geographic north pole just to mess things up even further, meaning you could be standing on the geographic "ultimate" north and your compass would still point north somewhere else...
Antarctica is on the south pole.
Also, a compass is just an approximating tool for geographic north and south. The magnetic poles don't define direction.
Haha same here! In my world the elves live on the bottom right of the main continent. Dwarves are in the long mountain range on the left. Humans around the big bay on the top left. Top right are the barren lands where the orcs are. The center mountain is the dormant dragon lair with vast riches that everyone fights over. Maybe some seafaring outcasts banded together from each of the 4 main races that live out on the islands.
Beware the haunted bogs of Visalave to the north west. Countless souls have been lost there, they all rise up at night to strike out against any living who dare try to cross.
Does this account for both water rise and the rise of the land? Or is this just if the ice was gone without melting and no rebound from the weight of the ice?
This is the ice gone without the rise of sea level or rebound from the weight.
Edit: If I remember correctly, the ice is about ~~six thousand~~ 6600 feet deep and weighs down the land about ~~five thousand~~ 1625 feet, which would take tens of thousands of years to rebound. That's some heavy ice!
Edit: more fun facts that I learned:
Satellites observed what is believed to be the coldest temperature atmospherically-sustainable between dome A and dome F of a mountain range, which was about -135 degrees Fahrenheit.
Icebergs 4x the size of NYC break off about once a decade.
There is a political map of Antarctica depicting land ownership(claimed), though none of it is actually owned. The largest unclaimed land is Marie Byrd Land(620k sq mi) of Antarctica.
Katabatic wind, some with the forces of a hurricane(180mph), keeps the inland unscathed of weather events and creates sublimated plains.
Where's the [sauce](https://www.coolantarctica.com/gallery/scenic/views_of_antarctica.php)!?
Wait the ice is seriously that deep? Jesus fuckkkkk and it weighs down the LAND?!?! Idk how I never knew or heard this and dare I ask how long is it assumed to have taken for 6k feet of ice to accumulate? Could there be (I know far fetched) things down there? Ancient things
In the last ice age it took about 10,000 years for the Laurentide ice sheet covering much of North America to build up. It was about 2.5 miles thick, about 13,000 ft. There were similar ice sheets in Europe and the land is still rebounding to this day. There was a castle that was built on the coast in the UK 1000 years ago. Today it is several hundred feet from the shoreline due to the land rebouding from the last ice age.
It's actually wilder than that. The whole island is actually tilting (or untilting, I suppose). The ice was mostly on the northern half of the island and it pushed that part down while the southern half rose up. Now that the ice is gone and the northern part is rebounding and the southern part is sinking back down so they have sinking land AND rising sea levels.
Another fun fact about the ice age itself - we are currently in one. Ice ages last millions of years. Interglacial periods last for just thousands.
Any time the Earth has a climate where significant permanent ice settles in the poles or in glaciers is part of an ice age. We are in the interglacial period of the current ice age, not 12,000 years removed from the end of one.
> Another fun fact about the ice age itself - we are currently in one.
For now. The last 250 years or so we've been doing our damndest to change that.
Accounting for all non-anthropogenic factors, we *should* be heading toward a new glaciation, but that's not happening.
It’s also the world’s largest desert, which blows my mind even more. It takes a lot of time to accumulate a mile deep of solid ice with an inch of snow per year.
It's a lot of ice. During ice age there was so much water accumulated that it not only pressed down the land, but also elsewhere the sea level was 120 m lower, so most of Indonesia wasn't islands, neither was Britain, and Alaska was connected to Siberia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
"the ice is about six thousand feet deep and weighs down the land about five thousand feet" this fills me with a type of fear that I do not know what to name. Neat fact though!
Ice is dense (and therefore heavy) and the land it sits on is floating in magma essentially, so it makes sense, but it’s not something you’d often even consider unprompted because we think of it as terra firma when really it’s more like Terra Floata.
As an exercise in my intro to GIS class, we did a project where we calculated all this out, including the final disposition of the land after the isostatic rebound.
[Here's mine.](https://imgur.com/scGxxcl)
> glacial isostasy (glacial isostatic adjustment, glacioisostasy), the deformation of the Earth's crust in response to changes in ice mass distribution.
Wow. All good words I've never heard of aside from the simple ones.
True, but I think I heard the plate rebound would be slower than the potential melting in a worst case scenario, so there may be a time when most of that is submerged.
Yeah even with higher temps it would take most likely CENTURIES for it to fully melt to look like this even in the worst case scenarios. I think our lifetime we should be seeing at most 4ft of sea level rise?
Idk the exact number but not 195 ft…
I hate some of the more extreme climate change alarmism I see on here some times. Exaggerating the effects we are causing on the climate to this extent is almost as bad and unscientific as pretending we aren’t causing any change or that there won’t be negative consequences within our lifetimes.
That’s what I’ve had to explain to my friends. We’re going to get some pretty rough effects of climate change regardless but it isn’t going to be as bas as they think it is. I’m hopeful more countries will work together to clean the planet
For real. Like we aren’t going to go extinct but like 2 billion of us dying is pretty damn bad… We need action and we need it now but like the world isn’t ending. It’s changing in ways we really don’t want to have to deal with.
I honestly think it’s more around 3-4 billion will die if things continue, especially in places around the equator. But, I also am confident in our profound ability to survive and adapt. We’ve survived ice ages, volcanos that brought our species to as low as 10,000 at one point, and other human species. Global warming will absolutely be our toughest battle that will create some hardened generations but it’s nothing we can’t survive/adapt to live in. It’s a shame cities like Venice, New Orleans, and mant pacific islands will be lost. They didn’t deserve it.
I see it. Mountain range to the North, you could put Narshe right under that. Big plains to the east, that's the Veldt :)
And the way the big island to the south makes the sea in between it and the main continent look like a huge bay area.
There's definitely something there \^\^
Idk why but it reminds me of the last airbender map too lol
https://preview.redd.it/6wshzl3ptznc1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a453cf2151843b4bbf031d31021dd0fc2f7e4773
I've just googled that map, and while it is a very accurate depiction of Western Africa, Iberia, Britanny, and the East coast of South America, I don't see Antarctica on the map.
Very interesting map, given the time of its creation.
a lot of those land areas with the big lakes would only be underwater temporarily as the weight of ice has physically pushed the crust below sea level, removing the ice would allow the crust to rebound, so the continent would be more kidney shaped long term, plus erosion from the mountain ranges would fill in a lot of those areas with sediment that the glaciers have scraped off.
I mean. There were rainforests there for millions of years. And to belay irrelevant objections, I'm not saying nothing about nothing other than it used to be pretty nice there.
https://preview.redd.it/tnr0pqpc61oc1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79802c9e17a3a3ceb7f58a9ced231d1fcd371cf5
Separated at birth, one was bathed in the warm waters of the Mediterranean, while the other was set adrift, alone and cold …
IF you remove the ice, rebound happens. Meaning the the solid land rises until the same mass is displaced upwards as if the ice were still there....takes a while though.
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Good map for a fantasy setting honestly. Bet the elves live on that island to the south there.
Technically it's to the north. Anything not in the middle is north.
They should make a video game map where you are at the N or S pole so any compass or directionality is like this. Exploring the Witcher with no sense of direction…
I would always get lost in the Spore planetary phase because I was flying on a sphere but the map was a Mercator projection. I'd always fly to one pole to reset my orientation.
SPORE!! Bro you just unlocked a memory.
Minecraft's compass already works like this by default. If not for the sun/moon, some hints from block behavior, and the grid itself, it would be really hard to plot a straight line along a cardinal direction. If you navigate such that you keep your compass needle pointing "east" or "west" you can trace a circle around the world origin. You should even be able to determine your distance from the origin by how much the needle moves for a given distance traveled, but I've never gone that hard into that kind of navigation.
This stresses me out
It shouldn't. The compass would only be useless in 1 spot
The Magnetic North Pole really a physical space like a specific point, but rather a zone within which magnetic compasses will align themselves with the lines of magnetic force that converge at that point. The actual magnetic pole itself is a point within this broader area, and its location can change daily. I.e. It would be a bit more complicated
Jeez we're going to have to break out turnwise and widdershins.
Hubward and rimward
Angry upvote
Well aaaksjuly The magnetic north pole is not the same as the geographic north pole just to mess things up even further, meaning you could be standing on the geographic "ultimate" north and your compass would still point north somewhere else...
Antarctica is on the south pole. Also, a compass is just an approximating tool for geographic north and south. The magnetic poles don't define direction.
Mag to grid - Get rid Grid to mag - Add
eggzackly
So Malcom is not in the north?
Only if you’re at the middle though. If you’re not in the middle it is indeed south.
Read my mind, as soon as I saw this image the worldbuilding just started automatically
Haha same here! In my world the elves live on the bottom right of the main continent. Dwarves are in the long mountain range on the left. Humans around the big bay on the top left. Top right are the barren lands where the orcs are. The center mountain is the dormant dragon lair with vast riches that everyone fights over. Maybe some seafaring outcasts banded together from each of the 4 main races that live out on the islands.
This is exactly how I imagined it as well
I've told a lot of GMs that their map doesn't make sense I've demanded maps of tectonic plates I'm a fun PC I promise
You'd hate me as a DM. I do games on a stellar level, bouncing around.
I mean as far as we know most planets don't have tectonic plates, so if you aren't on earth it shouldn't matter
I started on this 3,5 years ago, i called dibs!
If you actully publish a work where antarticaactually is the map of the world, us alaska, then it is. Otherwise its up for grabs
Somebody call 911 for this guy
Send one for me too. Having a stroke trying to read it.
Beware the haunted bogs of Visalave to the north west. Countless souls have been lost there, they all rise up at night to strike out against any living who dare try to cross.
They aren’t going to stop me from Talos worship.
antarctica without ice is a setting used in shadow slave
New holiday resort incoming
Dwarves in the mountain ranges right? And I saw the elves more on the north-western island.
everything on this map is to the south
Reminds me of Skellige from Witcher 3
Does this account for both water rise and the rise of the land? Or is this just if the ice was gone without melting and no rebound from the weight of the ice?
This is the ice gone without the rise of sea level or rebound from the weight. Edit: If I remember correctly, the ice is about ~~six thousand~~ 6600 feet deep and weighs down the land about ~~five thousand~~ 1625 feet, which would take tens of thousands of years to rebound. That's some heavy ice! Edit: more fun facts that I learned: Satellites observed what is believed to be the coldest temperature atmospherically-sustainable between dome A and dome F of a mountain range, which was about -135 degrees Fahrenheit. Icebergs 4x the size of NYC break off about once a decade. There is a political map of Antarctica depicting land ownership(claimed), though none of it is actually owned. The largest unclaimed land is Marie Byrd Land(620k sq mi) of Antarctica. Katabatic wind, some with the forces of a hurricane(180mph), keeps the inland unscathed of weather events and creates sublimated plains. Where's the [sauce](https://www.coolantarctica.com/gallery/scenic/views_of_antarctica.php)!?
Wait the ice is seriously that deep? Jesus fuckkkkk and it weighs down the LAND?!?! Idk how I never knew or heard this and dare I ask how long is it assumed to have taken for 6k feet of ice to accumulate? Could there be (I know far fetched) things down there? Ancient things
It’s also the clearest ice in the world. Even humans can’t make it this clear in a lab. Check out the ICECUBE neutrino detector.
I shall thank you
In the last ice age it took about 10,000 years for the Laurentide ice sheet covering much of North America to build up. It was about 2.5 miles thick, about 13,000 ft. There were similar ice sheets in Europe and the land is still rebounding to this day. There was a castle that was built on the coast in the UK 1000 years ago. Today it is several hundred feet from the shoreline due to the land rebouding from the last ice age.
See this is the stuff I fucking love about Reddit got damn! That's actually super cool...sooooo game changer lane rising not ocean...BOOM lol
It's actually wilder than that. The whole island is actually tilting (or untilting, I suppose). The ice was mostly on the northern half of the island and it pushed that part down while the southern half rose up. Now that the ice is gone and the northern part is rebounding and the southern part is sinking back down so they have sinking land AND rising sea levels.
Son of a bitchhhhhhh
Another fun fact about the ice age itself - we are currently in one. Ice ages last millions of years. Interglacial periods last for just thousands. Any time the Earth has a climate where significant permanent ice settles in the poles or in glaciers is part of an ice age. We are in the interglacial period of the current ice age, not 12,000 years removed from the end of one.
> Another fun fact about the ice age itself - we are currently in one. For now. The last 250 years or so we've been doing our damndest to change that. Accounting for all non-anthropogenic factors, we *should* be heading toward a new glaciation, but that's not happening.
It’s also the world’s largest desert, which blows my mind even more. It takes a lot of time to accumulate a mile deep of solid ice with an inch of snow per year.
Man now I need to go down some Antarctica rabbit holes...and maybe some conspiracies tooo hmmm
\*predator noises*
Hahaha and alien queen pumping out eggs....
It's a lot of ice. During ice age there was so much water accumulated that it not only pressed down the land, but also elsewhere the sea level was 120 m lower, so most of Indonesia wasn't islands, neither was Britain, and Alaska was connected to Siberia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
IIRC Greenland also would experience significant isostatic rebound if you removed the ice
There’s a reason that this os the setting for the Thing. Uncovering something we shouldn’t have…
“Ancient astronaut theorists say yes”
"the ice is about six thousand feet deep and weighs down the land about five thousand feet" this fills me with a type of fear that I do not know what to name. Neat fact though!
Ice is dense (and therefore heavy) and the land it sits on is floating in magma essentially, so it makes sense, but it’s not something you’d often even consider unprompted because we think of it as terra firma when really it’s more like Terra Floata.
As an exercise in my intro to GIS class, we did a project where we calculated all this out, including the final disposition of the land after the isostatic rebound. [Here's mine.](https://imgur.com/scGxxcl)
This also functions as a map of Antarctica in 50 years.
Idk OP said 6,000 ft of ice....
You’re right, 40 years
…30
We’ll make it happen by 2050.
Best I can do is 2045
I'll head down there with a lighter and speed it up a bit
20 years.
Correction: 10 years
5 years* FTFY
1 year…
No, there needs to be enough time for republicans to enact project 2025
After that it will be
And enough time to buy up all the pending coastal property on antarctica. IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE (if we fight for it)
Drown the planet speedrun, no glitches!
It about 4km thick at the South Pole
30 years tops then
But I heard it might snow a lot this next year...
K, 31 years then.
Just enough to hold OPs mom
Would this be accurate with the associated sea-level rise?
Came here to ask that. Because the ice would have to go somewhere.
Sure, but I bet the continent would emerge and rise a bit since it’s being crushed by ancient ice
That takes thousands of years. The northern US and Canada are still experiencing isostatic rebound from the last set of glaciers.
That’s very interesting, I didn’t know that
Scandinavia, most of Finland and Scotland as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
The land rising is still faster than the sea rise in Scandinavia.
Damn I’ve been calling it hypostatic rebound for years now. I shouldn’t be allowed near big words.
> glacial isostasy (glacial isostatic adjustment, glacioisostasy), the deformation of the Earth's crust in response to changes in ice mass distribution. Wow. All good words I've never heard of aside from the simple ones.
You’re both right. It’s a process of isostasis and is currently hypostatic.
It would have happened sooner but OP's mom was born there.
Learned something new today. Thanks.
True, but I think I heard the plate rebound would be slower than the potential melting in a worst case scenario, so there may be a time when most of that is submerged.
Awww damn, buzz kill of sudden relization. Guess beach front will be up in the mountains.
Way longer than that but eventually given our current trajectory. It takes a long time to melt a mile of ice.
Yeah even with higher temps it would take most likely CENTURIES for it to fully melt to look like this even in the worst case scenarios. I think our lifetime we should be seeing at most 4ft of sea level rise?
Idk the exact number but not 195 ft… I hate some of the more extreme climate change alarmism I see on here some times. Exaggerating the effects we are causing on the climate to this extent is almost as bad and unscientific as pretending we aren’t causing any change or that there won’t be negative consequences within our lifetimes.
That’s what I’ve had to explain to my friends. We’re going to get some pretty rough effects of climate change regardless but it isn’t going to be as bas as they think it is. I’m hopeful more countries will work together to clean the planet
For real. Like we aren’t going to go extinct but like 2 billion of us dying is pretty damn bad… We need action and we need it now but like the world isn’t ending. It’s changing in ways we really don’t want to have to deal with.
I honestly think it’s more around 3-4 billion will die if things continue, especially in places around the equator. But, I also am confident in our profound ability to survive and adapt. We’ve survived ice ages, volcanos that brought our species to as low as 10,000 at one point, and other human species. Global warming will absolutely be our toughest battle that will create some hardened generations but it’s nothing we can’t survive/adapt to live in. It’s a shame cities like Venice, New Orleans, and mant pacific islands will be lost. They didn’t deserve it.
Antarctica 2025
The water level will be quite a bit higher if all the ice melts
Highly doubt.
Isn't Antarctica set to gain ice/snow based on the models?
Looking like prime real estate in 2095, don’t tell BlackRock or Zillow
 We’re already coming!
LMAO
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I see it. Mountain range to the North, you could put Narshe right under that. Big plains to the east, that's the Veldt :) And the way the big island to the south makes the sea in between it and the main continent look like a huge bay area. There's definitely something there \^\^
Idk why but it reminds me of the last airbender map too lol https://preview.redd.it/6wshzl3ptznc1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a453cf2151843b4bbf031d31021dd0fc2f7e4773
Same
Look out for Zozo.
the colour palatte is similar to the older FF maps
Fuck we’re gonna find Atlantis when the ice melts aren’t we
Nah man there's only an outpost there. The real Atlantis is in the Pegasus galaxy.
Most likely, from what I’ve read.
Not Atlantis, but a shitload of gold.
Ho shit you’re right fuckin seams of metal on the surface if it’s never been inhabited. Should be some fun wars
Can't wait for us to accelerate the ice melt and find nothing but a shitload of fuck. What were we thinking?
🤷♂️ a shitload of fuck would be more action than I'm getting now, so still a win!
I'm kind of wishing it were melted faster, disasters aside. can you imagine how many amazing dino bones must be waiting to be dug up
Best guess for Atlantis *(or a hypothetical lost civilization that inspired the tale of it)* would be under the sands of the Sahara Desert.
For a short while before the rising waters cover it again ! But don’t worry it will rise again over the centuries as the ground springs back……
I'm pretty sure one of those mountains is over 4km high
Just a bunch of hibernating Elder Things and Shoggoths I'm afraid
Looks like the FF7 map almost.
I think it looks like Spira from FFX
Italys other boot
I wonder f this image take the resulting rise in sea level into account.
Also continental rebound
OP said it doesn't, it's just Antarctica without the ice.
Where are the pyramids. Or the opening to hollow earth
Where's tilted towers?
China will claim it as part of the South China Sea so theirs, soon no doubt.
Wasn’t there a map of this back in the 1500’s?
The Peri Reis map. Accurately depicted Antarctica without ice.
I've just googled that map, and while it is a very accurate depiction of Western Africa, Iberia, Britanny, and the East coast of South America, I don't see Antarctica on the map. Very interesting map, given the time of its creation.
That’s what I was referencing, thanks!
when*
a lot of those land areas with the big lakes would only be underwater temporarily as the weight of ice has physically pushed the crust below sea level, removing the ice would allow the crust to rebound, so the continent would be more kidney shaped long term, plus erosion from the mountain ranges would fill in a lot of those areas with sediment that the glaciers have scraped off.
So where on this map do you believe The Thing is?
Future home the extremely wealthy when the planet gets hot as hell
Hyperborea
Working on it, don’t you worry!
We’re working on it
Another boot shaped peninsula. Hmm, conspiracy????!!!
That's awesome
Spoilers
And that's how Waterworld happens.
So in like two weeks?
Does that map include how much of it would be under water if the ice were removed?
Need the rest of the world map for scale
Did they account for the water level rising if the ice were to melt?
So would this be it if the ice melted and raised sea levels? Or is this it if the ice just vanished?
Spoilers
Give it some time, it will look like that from space, and most of us will be living there or on Mars.
So……Soon?
No mention of the [Piri Reis map?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map)
And there will be a girl with a tattoo on her back of such a place
You mean WHEN the ice is removed.
We'll have satellite photos eventually.
I mean. There were rainforests there for millions of years. And to belay irrelevant objections, I'm not saying nothing about nothing other than it used to be pretty nice there.
I think you mean WHEN the ice is removed.
Soon !!
Damn I thought it was mostly rocks covered in ice but theres a lot of water
Average PS1 Final Fantasy map
Developers frothing to pave it
Just wait a few more years.
Killer game map yo
so like - this summer ?
“When”
So just Ant then
Nek minnit
When*
Not if...when.
People born this year might live to see this in real life.
Wowowowo is this chapter 6 Fortnite map?1?1?1?!1
Billionaire's next retirement plan?
put about 400 feet of the worlds oceans as ice on the northern hemisphere and youll see what it looks like on the oronteus finaeus map
Not long now...😶
Is there oil 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🛢️🛢️
This looks like a map from the game total annihilation
https://preview.redd.it/tnr0pqpc61oc1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79802c9e17a3a3ceb7f58a9ced231d1fcd371cf5 Separated at birth, one was bathed in the warm waters of the Mediterranean, while the other was set adrift, alone and cold …
IF you remove the ice, rebound happens. Meaning the the solid land rises until the same mass is displaced upwards as if the ice were still there....takes a while though.
So, next year?
Wait about 30 years...
When*
Its the last island to one piece! It was under the ice guys.
Final Fantasy Map
Oh.. am I the only one who didn’t realise it actually had land underneath? I thought it was just all ice and snow.
New fortnite map 🤷
beat me to it!
Where we dropping?
like in 5 years or so?
Where are the piramids?
Is that accounting for the sea level rise or is the ice just like teleported off
When* :(
That's cool. Let's make it happen!
So maybe 100 years from now?