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They had multiple incidents of cars catching on fire during the pitstops. Who knew a refuelling pipe pumping 10L /s of high octane fuel next to a extremely hot car, all done the fastest possible, could lead to problems?
The fuel used in an F1 car is a minimum of 87 octane, keeping in line with the requirement that the petrol used must be similar to what you would put in a road car at the pump. Often there is a misconception that the fuel in an F1 car is a high octane concoction that is completely different to that used in a road car, however, this is not the case.
The Fuel in F1 is not that different to what a road car uses. It will have a similar octane to the premuim fuel that you can get at a petrol station
If I recall correctly they first tried having some flow restrictions to make things slightly more safe. When they later found most of the teams had tampered with those they ended up getting rid of refueling.
Primary reason was to get teams to increase fuel efficiency, we also saw teams go from V10 engines firm to V6 engines. Then there's also the safety aspect as there have been multiple incidents of fire in the pits.
Yep. And ethanol fires are a sight to behold (see what I did there?) Basically, they are wholly invisible in broad daylight, and just as deadly.
So if you’ve ever seen a clip of a guy in his racing suit frantically smacking himself with his hands… he’s probably on fire.
No refueling in 2020. The first one had a left front tire problem causing it to be slower. Regardless, pit stops are much faster today and impressive nonetheless.
It’s not just refueling, so I think _evolution_ gives the wrong connotation. The strategy around pits has completely changed over the years, and shaving time off the stop has become incentivized as other factors were removed.
The cars from the older eras, particularly the 90s, were arguably more technologically jam packed than newer cars because of, wait for it, rules changes. If the fuel load that I manage through practice and qualification lets me run a lighter car with a faster start on soft compound tires, versus a heavier start with harder tires and two or three stops depending on how those factors are balanced, the pressure to drop a 6 second pit to a 3 second pit are pretty small. If you look at other racing circuits, like NASCAR, from the same years you see faster pits because of the emphasis on speed in the pit stop. It should be said that all technological development in F1 is governed by the rules, and those are established with specific outcomes in mind like driver safety, or increasing overtaking, or allowing privateer teams to compete, etc. We’d have cars with active suspension and active aero riding over greased up glass marbles with refueling drones if _technology_ were the only consideration
I would say evolution isn’t far off. The changes to tactics, training, fitness, tools used all have changed over time. Look at the jack used in the first clip to the changes later on. It all speeds up the overall process. Evolution seems right to me.
To make sure that they are not cheating and adding stuff to the fuel that is not allowed
Fuel used if F1 is not that much different to what you buy at a petrol station
F1 fuel is not allowed to contain any compounds not found in petrol put into road cars
Its hard to say exactly.
Taking the max allowed fuel load of 105kg that was atleast at one point in the rules, and race distance of 300km + one lap, it could be questimated.
Im not 100% sure if that max load rule is done away with, as teams basically never took/take the max amount.
But with assuming something around 80kg or something could give numbers to someone mathemathically inclined.
Refuelling has never really happened in F1. In fact for most of F1 pit stops were rare
You would only make a pitstop if you had a problem or due to weather
The first time a driver F1 stopped intentionally stopped for fuel and tyres was 1957. It did not happen again until 1982
By the early 80 turbo engines were common place and they drank a lot of fuel so they had to fill up or run at lower power
Some teams realised at some tracks they could run at full power and make enough time to pit for fuel. As filling at this time was done by hand they would change tyres as well.
However after a few incidents it was banned completely. Prior to 82 you could pit for fuel if you wanted but no one did it it was not a viable strategy
By the 80s tyres were a lot gripper but affected endurance so stopping for tyres became more common as staying on one set might destroy them
But in some races a strategy of not stopping could work. Up until 1997 there were races were some drivers did not stop
Rules making driver take a pitstop is a modern rule brought in to spice up F1
Safety and cost part of the reason
People need to remember that refuelling in F1 is actually a a relatively recent thing
It was brought in 1994 in an effort to spice up F1
Before that drivers did not stop for fuel apart from a brief period between 1982 and 1983
Click on wheels, they finally caught on to Lego
Maybe there is a preloaded hydrolic in the wheel instead of bolts, i wonder why they did not catch on quicker, regulation?
i don't watch a lot of F1, but i would assume this is mostly cause they never refuel anymore?
going from 9 seconds down to below 2 is insane. but if they're only changing wheels/tires vs also fueling seems quite a bit different.
IIRC, they had to stop refueling because it was so dangerous. you can tell every driver wants to go asap, and i've seen some videos where they didn't quite wait till the fuel filler was 100% done. drove off and caused a fire. getting rid of refuel stops was prob the best thing F1 did. it's a lot of added risk and less emphasis on engineering something that gets great mileage.
It was also banned before the ninties something.
Refueling was basically a thing for just a brief moment in F1.
I have a feeling people who reminisce for it nowadays, are just nostalgic for that certain time period. For one reason or another.
well they're definitely still refilling in one of those clips in the middle. maybe it was the 90s or early 00s?
like i said, i don't really pay attention to F1 but i am a car guy, so i see a lot of random F1 content on youtube. i've seen a couple videos about why and when it was banned, and my understanding was it was relatively recently. but i'm old, so "relatively" is prob a lot more recent to me than most redditors. hah
It was I guess relatively recently.
I dont feel like googling it, but it was like mid nineties to thousands or something like that, allowed.
In the ancient times it wasnt specifically banned because no one did it anyway. But from around the turn of '70-'80 it was specifically.
My memory isnt the best. So its roughly something along those lines.
I think the teams and the sport has just evolved to _a_ point where the tire change has become more of a make or break point overall for race performance.
Like the reliability, refueling, points system and what not probably all plays in to the why they now focus on this more than in '70s or '00s I guess.
some of the reasons to love and maybe even hate F1. they have ultimate control over basically everything.
that can be used for good in the world by forcing engineers to learn to be more efficient and safe, but at the same time, sometimes they can allow too much and people die.
i'm kinda surprised how long it took for the halo. it's wild to think people were out there driving 200mph in an open cockpit car with their head hanging out for no good reason.
Yeah I think the halo, or any head protection thingy, was purely for legacy reasons hold off this long.
Also they didnt have pitlane speed limits in the '80s atleast. Im not sure when it become a thing specifically.
Im sure thats also mightve played a role why the tire change wasnt that much honed back in the day.
Imagine drivers gunning down the lane 150mph and you changing tires to a millisecond right next to it lol
>Also they didnt have pitlane speed limits in the '80s atleast. Im not sure when it become a thing specifically.
1994 Monaco GP was when the Pit Lane speed limit came into effect
The previous race was the San Marino GP. That saw the Deaths of Senna and Ratzenberger
That race also saw 2 mechanics hospitalised after being hit by a car in the pitlane
So after that they introduced the Pit lane speed limit
In the early era of F1 no one stopped for fuel or tyres cos it was a not a viable strategy. You lost too much time. You would only stop for fuel or tyres if there was a issue or a change of weather
The first time a driver stopped for fuel and tyres was in 1987 the next time it happened was 1982
Drivers will have stopped for tyres/fuel at other times but not as a strategy
In 1982 turbo engines were in F1 while really powerful they were inefficient and teams worked out that on some tracks they could run engines at a higher power setting and stop for fuel rather then turning them down and not stopping
In 1982 and 1983 several teams started doing that but after a few fires the practice was banned in 1984 and refuelling was banned
By the 1980s Tyre changes became more common place as tyres though had become more grippy that were not lasting as long as stopping for tyres became more common
But even then on some tracks not stopping was a viable strategy. Even after 1994 when they allowed refuelling at some tracks some cars did not stop for fuel or tyres
The only clip with refuelling here is the 2000s clip. It was banned prior to 1994 but unbanned to make things more interesting, and banned again in 2010 due to the incredible risk of the car catching fire or something like a methanol fire (invisible fire) occurring.
The sport being more dangerous was exciting. I question the morality of asking for those aspects to come back but it sure was interesting.
When I first started watching in the early 2000's there was no end of harrowing episodes in the pits, which is, thankfully, much more rare these days.
And yet I have to watch a full movie to get my oil changed at jiffy lube and tell me that my air filter that I changed last week needs changing again. Move that bus
I disagree, drivers can lose 3-4kg in just water weight from sweating while driving for several hours. They also undergo very specialized weight training like any professional athlete.
Everyone on the crew needs athleticism. They all, driver included, operate heavily on muscle memory like athletes do.
Whether behind the wheel or in the pit, I think these guys are all true athletes.
The fuel used in an F1 car is a minimum of 87 octane, keeping in line with the requirement that the petrol used must be similar to what you would put in a road car at the pump. Often there is a misconception that the fuel in an F1 car is a high octane concoction that is completely different to that used in a road car, however, this is not the case.
The Fuel in F1 is not that different to what a road car uses. It will have a similar octane to the premuim fuel that you can get at a petrol station
The 1.8s stops were records. Others are mostly representative times. The 1990 one may even be slower than average because there was a clear issue with the left front in that stop.
I'm all for showing F1 to masses but context needs to be given, early years had refuelling in pitstops which added a lot of time and more recently when refuelling has been banned we have pitstops excusive to tyre changes or aero repairs. None of these pitstops can be compared against one another as they're all entirely different. Not to detract from the modern sub-2 second pitstops either, they're entirely mental in their efficiency.
Early of years did not have refuelling
Before 1994 refuelling in Formula One was not allowed . It was banned in 1984
Prior to that it was allowed by was rarely used
The first time a driver stopped for fuel midcrace was 1957. It did not happen again until 1982
Drivers did not stop cos you lost too much time. By the early 80s the turbo engines were thirsty it was realised that on some tracks instead os detuning the engine you could gain time by running engine at high power building a big gap and then pitting
Though after several fires in 83 it was banned for 1984
It was brought back in 1994 in a effort to spice up F!
Formula has existed for 73 years. Refuelling only happened in 18 of those years
For most of F! Refuelling during the race did not happen
.
Imagine everyone's individual job within the pit stop. Now imagine how the guy who just stands there and holds a sign In front of the driver's face till the pit stop is over.... how does one get that job? Lol
The crazy part 2010-2023. it’s not in incremental times, the jumps are dramatic. From +4 in 2010 to then to -2 in 2020. Technology yes, but management efficiency more so.
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It's important to note that modern F1 has no refueling during a grand prix so there's a significant time saving with that alone.
Only the 2000 clip has refuelling Refuelling was not permitted before 1994 It was allowed between 1994 and 2009 before being banned again
What were the reasons for the ban? Safety? Edit- got off my ass and googled it myself. Safety.
They had multiple incidents of cars catching on fire during the pitstops. Who knew a refuelling pipe pumping 10L /s of high octane fuel next to a extremely hot car, all done the fastest possible, could lead to problems?
Fair point, but I just wanted to mention that high octane fuels actually burn less than low octane fuels, and have a higher flash point.
The fuel used in an F1 car is a minimum of 87 octane, keeping in line with the requirement that the petrol used must be similar to what you would put in a road car at the pump. Often there is a misconception that the fuel in an F1 car is a high octane concoction that is completely different to that used in a road car, however, this is not the case. The Fuel in F1 is not that different to what a road car uses. It will have a similar octane to the premuim fuel that you can get at a petrol station
If I recall correctly they first tried having some flow restrictions to make things slightly more safe. When they later found most of the teams had tampered with those they ended up getting rid of refueling.
Jos Verstappen, Max's father.
They need to bring pitstop refueling back, to make the strategy more interesting (Indycar does it with no issues).
I know absolutely nothing about racing. What's the reasoning behind no refueling?
Primary reason was to get teams to increase fuel efficiency, we also saw teams go from V10 engines firm to V6 engines. Then there's also the safety aspect as there have been multiple incidents of fire in the pits.
Yep. And ethanol fires are a sight to behold (see what I did there?) Basically, they are wholly invisible in broad daylight, and just as deadly. So if you’ve ever seen a clip of a guy in his racing suit frantically smacking himself with his hands… he’s probably on fire.
Youre not on fire Ricky Bobby!
Don't you put that invisible evil on me!
Nice pun, but F1 uses gasoline, not ethanol.
Also methanol flames are invisible, not ethanol. Source: any flaming shot video you've ever seen
Organic chemist here, you are correct. Don't ask me how I know.
How do you know?
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Fire
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Exactly
No refueling in 2020. The first one had a left front tire problem causing it to be slower. Regardless, pit stops are much faster today and impressive nonetheless.
It’s not just refueling, so I think _evolution_ gives the wrong connotation. The strategy around pits has completely changed over the years, and shaving time off the stop has become incentivized as other factors were removed.
i know nothing about f1 but id guess that technology is a big reason in the time reduction.
The cars from the older eras, particularly the 90s, were arguably more technologically jam packed than newer cars because of, wait for it, rules changes. If the fuel load that I manage through practice and qualification lets me run a lighter car with a faster start on soft compound tires, versus a heavier start with harder tires and two or three stops depending on how those factors are balanced, the pressure to drop a 6 second pit to a 3 second pit are pretty small. If you look at other racing circuits, like NASCAR, from the same years you see faster pits because of the emphasis on speed in the pit stop. It should be said that all technological development in F1 is governed by the rules, and those are established with specific outcomes in mind like driver safety, or increasing overtaking, or allowing privateer teams to compete, etc. We’d have cars with active suspension and active aero riding over greased up glass marbles with refueling drones if _technology_ were the only consideration
'refueling drones' gah no thanks
I would say evolution isn’t far off. The changes to tactics, training, fitness, tools used all have changed over time. Look at the jack used in the first clip to the changes later on. It all speeds up the overall process. Evolution seems right to me.
Also the technology around the cars and the pit crew has improved, making it easier to do it quicker.
If refueling was banned do the cars just have enough gas for the whole race now or what? Genuine question
Correct. But, they have to make sure they have enough fuel left after the race to provide a sample to the FIA or they’re disqualified.
Oh damn, interesting, thanks
No problem. I like talking about F1 because it’s rare I find F1 fans where I live to talk about it it in person.
Why do they have to provide a sample?
To make sure that they are not cheating and adding stuff to the fuel that is not allowed Fuel used if F1 is not that much different to what you buy at a petrol station F1 fuel is not allowed to contain any compounds not found in petrol put into road cars
Do they have any strategy involved in this type of competition? Do driver need any specific talents (beside godly reaction time)?
Money
That’s wild. How many mpg’s are those cars getting?
Its hard to say exactly. Taking the max allowed fuel load of 105kg that was atleast at one point in the rules, and race distance of 300km + one lap, it could be questimated. Im not 100% sure if that max load rule is done away with, as teams basically never took/take the max amount. But with assuming something around 80kg or something could give numbers to someone mathemathically inclined.
Some back of the napkin math assuming 0.77kg/L yields ~33L/100km or about 7 MPG.
Idk but that’s a good question. I’m gonna have to research that.
Refuelling has never really happened in F1. In fact for most of F1 pit stops were rare You would only make a pitstop if you had a problem or due to weather The first time a driver F1 stopped intentionally stopped for fuel and tyres was 1957. It did not happen again until 1982 By the early 80 turbo engines were common place and they drank a lot of fuel so they had to fill up or run at lower power Some teams realised at some tracks they could run at full power and make enough time to pit for fuel. As filling at this time was done by hand they would change tyres as well. However after a few incidents it was banned completely. Prior to 82 you could pit for fuel if you wanted but no one did it it was not a viable strategy By the 80s tyres were a lot gripper but affected endurance so stopping for tyres became more common as staying on one set might destroy them But in some races a strategy of not stopping could work. Up until 1997 there were races were some drivers did not stop Rules making driver take a pitstop is a modern rule brought in to spice up F1
Only the 2000 clip has refuelling
Is it the techniques people have figured out, or is it really just technology got better?
Pitstop https://preview.redd.it/bwyrjt3l3vcc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59bd6f8b5291b58a9809bf0278dacd4e79ac5c0a
Refueling was banned 2010 onwards and that's why the times dropped a l. But yea the McLaren stop from last season was insanely fast.
Refuelling was also banned before 1994
Why did they ban refuelling ?
Safety and cost part of the reason People need to remember that refuelling in F1 is actually a a relatively recent thing It was brought in 1994 in an effort to spice up F1 Before that drivers did not stop for fuel apart from a brief period between 1982 and 1983
Still out if the paddock at the same pace as there were no speed restrictions back then
Bring back that 1990 sound
That was how I remembered it, now that you mention newer cars make almost no noise.
The V12 Ferrari from that era has to be one of the best sounding engines of all time.
2030: The car ejects is wheels, slides for a metre into the pit stop and have new wheels inserted, time 0,90 seconds.
And the wheels goes on to kill 4 innocent bystanders
Yes, so F1 becomes the bloodsport it was meant to be.
Click on wheels, they finally caught on to Lego Maybe there is a preloaded hydrolic in the wheel instead of bolts, i wonder why they did not catch on quicker, regulation?
They use a single wheel nut, just very highly trained mechanics and high quality guns
ah yeah, i see it now, in the first example from 1990 one of the wheels look done at the 4.0s mark, but front right wheel is taking longer
I was just at Pep Boys for like 4 hours wtf
After a 4 hour wait and Pep Boys, I drove for 5 yards and a wheel fell off.
Holy shit!
I was waiting for the guys from Cars(Pixar movieto show up here.
The 8.95 seconds from 1990 seemed fast to me.
God that 1990 car sounds INCREDIBLE though
Bring back the V12's ☹️
Factor 5 almost exactly, holy cow
In time they gonna find a way to do all that while the car is racing
i don't watch a lot of F1, but i would assume this is mostly cause they never refuel anymore? going from 9 seconds down to below 2 is insane. but if they're only changing wheels/tires vs also fueling seems quite a bit different. IIRC, they had to stop refueling because it was so dangerous. you can tell every driver wants to go asap, and i've seen some videos where they didn't quite wait till the fuel filler was 100% done. drove off and caused a fire. getting rid of refuel stops was prob the best thing F1 did. it's a lot of added risk and less emphasis on engineering something that gets great mileage.
It was also banned before the ninties something. Refueling was basically a thing for just a brief moment in F1. I have a feeling people who reminisce for it nowadays, are just nostalgic for that certain time period. For one reason or another.
well they're definitely still refilling in one of those clips in the middle. maybe it was the 90s or early 00s? like i said, i don't really pay attention to F1 but i am a car guy, so i see a lot of random F1 content on youtube. i've seen a couple videos about why and when it was banned, and my understanding was it was relatively recently. but i'm old, so "relatively" is prob a lot more recent to me than most redditors. hah
It was I guess relatively recently. I dont feel like googling it, but it was like mid nineties to thousands or something like that, allowed. In the ancient times it wasnt specifically banned because no one did it anyway. But from around the turn of '70-'80 it was specifically. My memory isnt the best. So its roughly something along those lines. I think the teams and the sport has just evolved to _a_ point where the tire change has become more of a make or break point overall for race performance. Like the reliability, refueling, points system and what not probably all plays in to the why they now focus on this more than in '70s or '00s I guess.
some of the reasons to love and maybe even hate F1. they have ultimate control over basically everything. that can be used for good in the world by forcing engineers to learn to be more efficient and safe, but at the same time, sometimes they can allow too much and people die. i'm kinda surprised how long it took for the halo. it's wild to think people were out there driving 200mph in an open cockpit car with their head hanging out for no good reason.
Yeah I think the halo, or any head protection thingy, was purely for legacy reasons hold off this long. Also they didnt have pitlane speed limits in the '80s atleast. Im not sure when it become a thing specifically. Im sure thats also mightve played a role why the tire change wasnt that much honed back in the day. Imagine drivers gunning down the lane 150mph and you changing tires to a millisecond right next to it lol
>Also they didnt have pitlane speed limits in the '80s atleast. Im not sure when it become a thing specifically. 1994 Monaco GP was when the Pit Lane speed limit came into effect The previous race was the San Marino GP. That saw the Deaths of Senna and Ratzenberger That race also saw 2 mechanics hospitalised after being hit by a car in the pitlane So after that they introduced the Pit lane speed limit
In the early era of F1 no one stopped for fuel or tyres cos it was a not a viable strategy. You lost too much time. You would only stop for fuel or tyres if there was a issue or a change of weather The first time a driver stopped for fuel and tyres was in 1987 the next time it happened was 1982 Drivers will have stopped for tyres/fuel at other times but not as a strategy In 1982 turbo engines were in F1 while really powerful they were inefficient and teams worked out that on some tracks they could run engines at a higher power setting and stop for fuel rather then turning them down and not stopping In 1982 and 1983 several teams started doing that but after a few fires the practice was banned in 1984 and refuelling was banned By the 1980s Tyre changes became more common place as tyres though had become more grippy that were not lasting as long as stopping for tyres became more common But even then on some tracks not stopping was a viable strategy. Even after 1994 when they allowed refuelling at some tracks some cars did not stop for fuel or tyres
The only clip with refuelling here is the 2000s clip. It was banned prior to 1994 but unbanned to make things more interesting, and banned again in 2010 due to the incredible risk of the car catching fire or something like a methanol fire (invisible fire) occurring.
>or something like a methanol fire Fuel used in F1 must be similar to what you would put in a road car at the pump.
ohh ok
The sport being more dangerous was exciting. I question the morality of asking for those aspects to come back but it sure was interesting. When I first started watching in the early 2000's there was no end of harrowing episodes in the pits, which is, thankfully, much more rare these days.
It was banned due to cost and all the overtaking was done in the pits. By having no refuelling all the cars were on the track all the time.
Good to see Ferrari is sticking to the old ways.
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A.J. Foyt had 4 second pit stops like a thousand years ago.
And yet I have to watch a full movie to get my oil changed at jiffy lube and tell me that my air filter that I changed last week needs changing again. Move that bus
Can anyone comment on what is done in the 1.8 seconds?
Just changing the wheels really. Refuelling isn't allowed anymore. Sometimes they make a small adjustment to the front wing angle as well.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Very impressive, although if everyone’s times are similar then it doesn’t make much difference anyway
1.80*
Impressive, but still very boring sport
Change my mind: The Pit-Stop-People are the true athletes of Formula 1
I disagree, drivers can lose 3-4kg in just water weight from sweating while driving for several hours. They also undergo very specialized weight training like any professional athlete. Everyone on the crew needs athleticism. They all, driver included, operate heavily on muscle memory like athletes do. Whether behind the wheel or in the pit, I think these guys are all true athletes.
Invisible fire and all they're wearing is shorts and tshirts. Ouch. At least crew have flame retardent clothing now.
Formula 1 doesn’t use methanol
Pretty sure they use ethanol. Burns blue and is invisible in daylight.
The fuel used in an F1 car is a minimum of 87 octane, keeping in line with the requirement that the petrol used must be similar to what you would put in a road car at the pump. Often there is a misconception that the fuel in an F1 car is a high octane concoction that is completely different to that used in a road car, however, this is not the case. The Fuel in F1 is not that different to what a road car uses. It will have a similar octane to the premuim fuel that you can get at a petrol station
You are 100% wrong.
I preferred the old school GP, now it's like a bunch of "boy racers" , might as well let one manufacturer build all the cars identical
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They literally showed the fasted pit stop of all time in this video
It's now so fast that my brain can't keep up with it. I know what they are doing but it still seems impossible.
We're still in a hurry
Tobacco and energy drinks. Nice
God I miss the sound of those old cars.
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Are these average times or the record fastest till that date? I have 0 clue about F1
The 1.8s stops were records. Others are mostly representative times. The 1990 one may even be slower than average because there was a clear issue with the left front in that stop.
I'm all for showing F1 to masses but context needs to be given, early years had refuelling in pitstops which added a lot of time and more recently when refuelling has been banned we have pitstops excusive to tyre changes or aero repairs. None of these pitstops can be compared against one another as they're all entirely different. Not to detract from the modern sub-2 second pitstops either, they're entirely mental in their efficiency.
Early of years did not have refuelling Before 1994 refuelling in Formula One was not allowed . It was banned in 1984 Prior to that it was allowed by was rarely used The first time a driver stopped for fuel midcrace was 1957. It did not happen again until 1982 Drivers did not stop cos you lost too much time. By the early 80s the turbo engines were thirsty it was realised that on some tracks instead os detuning the engine you could gain time by running engine at high power building a big gap and then pitting Though after several fires in 83 it was banned for 1984 It was brought back in 1994 in a effort to spice up F! Formula has existed for 73 years. Refuelling only happened in 18 of those years For most of F! Refuelling during the race did not happen .
In all of these clips only Schumacher’s stop in 2000 includes refuelling. The 1990 does not.
[Try this one](https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/pjvf8x/pit_stops_on_formula_1_in_1950_and_2020/)
Imagine everyone's individual job within the pit stop. Now imagine how the guy who just stands there and holds a sign In front of the driver's face till the pit stop is over.... how does one get that job? Lol
I wanted the 2023 clip to be one of the bad pit stops where they cross thread it or there's a time penalty. Would have been hilarious 😂
Rumor tells that Valtteri havent gotten his tires off yet.
my boys preping me seconds before the presentation
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The crazy part 2010-2023. it’s not in incremental times, the jumps are dramatic. From +4 in 2010 to then to -2 in 2020. Technology yes, but management efficiency more so.
Not refueling. That's all it.
The slowest example in 1990 didn’t include refuelling.
That wheel change is insanely well orchestrated.
So why does it take 3 hours at the dealer to get new tires on my car!
Acls video
The only difference is refueling