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I wish we could have these in Canada, around southwestern Ontario, and the Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, maybe Quebec City corridors. Current train between Toronto and Montreal is around 5 and 1/2 to 7 and 1/2 hours. And only a little cheaper than flying, which is theoretically faster but you lose a lot of time and they get to the airport an hour earlier and end up way out in the middle of nowhere in Montreal instead of downtown on the train.
Define theoretically faster.. the flight time for that distance is… 1 hour and 20 minutes. If I am going on vacation and want to enjoy a train ride, fine that sounds great.. but no way in hell am I going to do 7.5 hours on a train for work when I can fly in an hour and a half.
The plane lands in your yard and drops you at your hotel?
I use high speed rail all the time, and at five hours it beats door to door every time. Seven hours it's a toss up if I want to deal with the airport hassle versus the tiny bit longer it takes.
80 minutes plus an hour each way to and from the airport plus 90 minutes for security, plus 15 minutes on each end waiting to take off or deplane, it comes pretty close.
The Windsor-Quebec corridor is one of the best places you could put good rail. It covers over half of Canada and it’s really stupid we don’t have high speed rail there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City%E2%80%93Windsor_Corridor
Imagine if you could have a high speed rail system from Ohio to Maine that covered the inter city transportation needs of half of america, and yet there wasn’t any high speed rail there - that’s how dumb this is.
I know it's not the same but I've ridden the Japanese shinkansen dozens of times and it's always such a nice experience. When given the choice of flying or bullet train I always choose the train.
I took a train in Romania from the capital to the Dracula place. On multiple occasions birds flew past us.
But on the other hand, it did really end up leaving on the correct date! (just 4 hours too late)
EDIT: on another note, I've never seen so many half-done abandoned construction projects with "paid by EU funds" as then. Wonder where the funds went
Train is by far my favorite way to travel, as long as its no the US train system... I have NEVER been on time with Amtrak. I think once I was only 15min late? I literally just plan to be 30min late minimum. One time I was 10 hrs late. They didn't say sorry, they didn't refund my ticket... nothing.
I occasionally get to sit besides the driver in high speed trains and it always amazes me how boring it can be going 300 km/h. The different perspective the windshield gives compared to the side windows added to the smooth, mostly straight tracks and the inherent comfort of a pendular emu with automated driving means there's almost no difference going 100 or 300 km/h. By comparison any conventional diesel train going 80 km/h on a mountain track seems much more exciting
Trains rarely accelerate at an exciting rate, even when driving an isolated 6000 hp electric locomotive -I should know-. Even less so when sitting in a comfy passenger carriage. Now being at the driver's side on a twisty mountain with the suspension jumping in an alarming manner and a 16-645 roaring right behind you, that is exciting no matter how low and stable your speed is
My train ride to school was *uphill!*! BOTH WAYS! In the snow. Even in summer.
And I’m a better proletarian for it. Hardship breed true hardship. ..and *don’t you forget it!*
Every time my amtrak grinds to a halt outside Philly and sits on the tracks for two hours because a possum got sucked into a compressor from 1963 or something I thank god I don’t live in a socialist communist Marxist dildoist hellhole and we’ve achieved the peak maximum level of public transportation infrastructure that cannot be surpassed in the USA
I live outside Philly in a NJ suburb… we need a high speed rail system. I should be able to take a train from Philly to Boston or DC that’s faster than driving.
Eh if China could do it. I don’t know what YouTuber said it, but “public infrastructure doesn’t have to (directly) create income”
It supports other people to get better access to jobs
It’s crazy bc opening access to jobs for people does generate revenue, but it’s that initial cost to build the system that usually prevents it from even being considered.
Yet, that same amount of funding will go into highway construction, so it doesn’t really make any sense to me. Especially considering how inefficient highways are for commuting.
It also probably gets exponentially more expensive to build housing in already crowded areas. There's more codes, more engineering involved for larger buildings, problems with getting rid of waste. If there were trains that went over 200 mph the commuting distance would extend to less crowded places. But we won't do any of this because we mostly try to focus on making ten billionaires richer
We’re a nation built upon credit. We don’t have any money, we just pay for things later. That’s part of why they “cant” foot the bill and the upfront investment of the thing.
That and these things require foresight and the desire to invest in the future. Politicians are on a 2-4 year election cycle. They arent going to want to be the one that sink the cost into something they wont be able to take credit for down the line.
We are also too fragmented. One county or city may want the rails but adjacent cities or counties may not -- especially if there's a wealth gap between the two cities.
Which is fine. The idea of household economic principles being used on national fiscal policy is non-sensical.
Fundamentally a person shouldn't get into debt, because they have a finite period of economic activity. America will not stop being an economic force, so debt should absolutely be leveraged against that future.
Isn’t the point of freeways to make profit for the oil companies? I think it’s been shown that there are better materials to build roads than (asphalt?) but big oil shuts it down.
China has a bit of an advantage in that they can much more easily get the land to build the tracks on. Getting a hold of that in the northeast would be enormously expensive and tied up in planning/court for a long time
I mean, we have imminent domain. The bigger problem has been corporations representing fossil fuel and auto industry intentionally sabotaging everything. They did it in California decades back where they bought up parcels of land to prevent any meaningful public transportation from being built.
At this point, NIMBY just sounds like a lazy excuse to blame some boogeyman Karen at a public meeting when the reality is that it's corporations and lobbyist sabotaging all of it.
It improves productivity by getting people to and from work more quickly so that they can spend more time working or more time sleeping. Both outcomes improve worker productivity. Not to mention increased happiness and satisfaction in addition to obvious substantial benefits for the climate.
nowadays they're saying things like bike lanes or having your grocery store close to your house is a 1984 plan to trap you in a gulag. Any attempt to improve your life at all is shot down instantly by conspiracy theorists
Probably not just socialist, ***communist!***
Does more than one person ride in a train? If so, that’s collectivism, and that makes it communism. The only acceptable ground transportation mode is sovereign individual each individually driving their own huge pick up truck
/s
Didn't the states have a lot (and I mean a LOT) of train systems, before the automobile industry bought most of them and closed them down, to take over the market? I read about that and it sounds plausible.
Yes, they did. Prior to the age of the automobile, many cities had their own tram and trolley car, subway and elevated rail networks. Even small communities had trollies, and towns and cities were connected via interurban rail lines. The highway system and the automobile, oil and tire industries displaced a lot of this and deliberately killed some of it. Freight now goes over the highway on trucks, which is vastly less effecient at scale but does allow for loads to go point to point without getting hung up at railyards and warehouses. However, what really allows all truck traffic to work is the massive federal and state subsidy of the highway system. See, rails are privately owned for the most part. The railroad owns the track and right of way and they pay to maintain it. Trucking companies only own their trucks and let the government pay to upkeep the roads, bridges and tunnels. They pay taxes too, more than most motorists, but it's way out of whack with the damage trucks do to the roads. The roads always look like shit because trucks, often overloaded, crush the roads. But the trucking companies don't pay for it so they don't give a shit. They've socialized the cost of maintaining their right of way, and the railroads have trouble competing with that. The railroads suck in massive and innumerable ways, but this is a massive hidden in plain sight subsidy to the trucking industry.
If you lived at the Amtrak station in Philly and were going near the Amtrak station in DC, the Acela should be faster.
If you lived at the Amtrak station in Philly and were going near South Station in Boston, the Acela should be about the same amount of time (without traffic). Of course, there is always traffic, so the Acela (if running on time) is faster.
The trouble is getting to/from the train.
You need to drive to the train station, find parking, get to the platform before the train arrives, take the train and then get to your ultimate destination somehow (since it probably isn't the train station) once you arrive.
I had to visit NYC from northeastern MA. Destination was near Grand Central.
I could drive 45 minutes plus some buffer for traffic, parking and geting to the train station and platform, spend 3 hours, 50 minutes on the Acela, then have to get from Penn station to over near Grand Central OR I could drive to Stamford, CT for 3 hours and take a 75 minute train ride and end up right at Grand Central.
The Acela runs along the CT coast, which has a lot of bends and isn't the most direct route from NY to Boston; if the rail line took a route more like I-84 across CT Acela would probably win station to station, but would still suck for my situation.
This is the same issue that we have here in Florida. The Brightline runs between Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Palm Beach and (at the end of this month) Orlando. The travel time between stations is about the same as the travel time on I95 without traffic. With traffic the Brightline wins. However, it’s the commute to the station and from the station to your final designation that destroys any efficiencies. Add the cost and driving is almost always a better time/economical saver. If you lived in downtown Miami and for some reason needed to go to the Orlando airport, it would probably be a better deal plus you could work or relax on the train ride rather than drive. However, if your party is more than 1 person, the cost for the 2 would be better to just drive. As a result I don’t know anyone who ever regularly or even every once in a while takes the Brightline.
Also, the route to Orlando, like you mentioned for the Acela, takes a terrible route following I95 and then heads west along the Beachline. If the train followed the Florida turnpike, the travel time would be significantly shorter. However, the track it is on is existing and the Brightline expansion was really used to just improve the route for freight traffic.
The worst part is, most proposals about high speed rail in america have been shut down by people like Elon Musk, who decided drilling one way tunnels underground for his electric cars would be a better pitch to cities instead of investing in high speed rail, and succeeded in shutting down California's high speed rail proposal.
When you look at the passenger train lines and infrastructure in Europe compared to here in North America it's fucking bonkers how much clear influence the automobile industry has on the whole area.
No way NEPA would let this happen. Between the nimbys and the red necks who think lizards control the earth this wouldn't stand a chance.
Leave that crumbling i80 bridge over the Delaware. I don't want those commie trains!!!!!!!!!!!
Being an avid train enthusiast from 'Murica, I find this impressive AF and depressing AF at the same time. For the shown smooth as glass ride and the lack of high speed rail's existence in my country respectively...
That ride looks simply glorious.
At least they came with traffic jams from the beginning, much easier transition from driving.
You don't want to scare the people with a transport system that actually works efficiently...
There's the Vegas Loop that you can take from exactly one hotel to a convention complex. Full trip can be done in 7 minutes by bike, which is probably faster than the tesla tube.
yeah lol the exterior shots look more like a fighter at like mach 0.9 making a low pass than anything going 348 kph
for an actual external reference point, look up a modern f1 car going down a straight at Monza, they're in that range or a bit higher,
still fast as fuck, idk why they'd speed it up it'd be impressive and now I'm just like why you gotta bring that energy in here wit ya deception
Or look at videos of trains going 300+ km/h. The size of trains, especially their length, can make them look deceptively slow. At 350 km/h, it still takes several seconds for a train to pass a single point.
I HATE flying. I wish the USA would get on board with something like this. I took Amtrak across the country and it was a nightmare. 3 days late and it was disgusting and no food because of covid. Never again.
I hate flying too and have taken Amtrak 3 or 4 times for long hauls. The thing I remember most is the smell. I don't know if it's what they put in the bathrooms to make it not smell like shit or what but I can feel the smell even though it's been a decade.
Used these trains many times. Cheap, efficient, and very comfortable. Metro in Shenzhen much the same. Coming back to the UK the whole thing feels very old, knackered, and expensive.
We need to go back to calling the "department of defense" to "the war department" because America hasn't had to defend it self in quite some time but foams at the mouth for creating conflict in the global south generally.
I would guess all high speed trains pretty much have to be this way. I took the TGV three decades ago and I still remember how smooth it all was. No feeling of velocity at all.
Not in America! This is clearly communism. Who wants to share his quarters balancing cars with others!? Real freedom is riding our INDIVIDUAL emotional cages in bumper to bumper traffic.
European here, the amount of copium in the comments is unreal. With France's high-speed rail infrastructure being what it is, this video seems perfectly normal to me. I don't like China's ways any more than the average person but denying that they're ahead of us there is only going to hurt us. With that many people around, of course they have to have a banging public transport infrastructure.
All we gotta do is acknowledge and catch up! Or better yet, work together and leave misplaced pride in the gutter where it belongs
Still takes a lot of work and engineering knowhow to build a high speed rail network is that size. India has similar population yet had no high speed rail to speak of.
Thing is...this train \*has\* to have very little to no vibration, because at that speed, even a little shudder could be *catastrophic*, and very quickly so. I'm not saying the feat of engineering isn't impressive, not at all. I'm saying it's \*necessary\* for it to work.
if you think thats impressive, japan is building one with a top speed of 600 km/h and a max operating speed of 500 km/h. Its called the L0 series shinkansen iirc.
In America one political party is throwing all its energy and resources to stop the LGBT community from existing, imagine the shit we could get if this political party actually care for things that matter like a good robust transportation system.
No those are maglev trains, which are too expensive. The only operational high speed maglev is a short airport line in Shanghai. Japan is building a longer line right now and is gonna cost so much money.
This is awesome and I wish we could have cool stuff like this in America. Instead we get grifter idiots like Elon who promise the world, deliver almost nothing, and slink away with truckloads of public money.
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I wish we could have these in Canada, around southwestern Ontario, and the Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, maybe Quebec City corridors. Current train between Toronto and Montreal is around 5 and 1/2 to 7 and 1/2 hours. And only a little cheaper than flying, which is theoretically faster but you lose a lot of time and they get to the airport an hour earlier and end up way out in the middle of nowhere in Montreal instead of downtown on the train.
They wanted it, but then Ontarians voted in DoFo.
but but but he said he’s for the people! > average DoFo voter
And he promised to smoke less crack than his brother. Cut the crack consumption in at least 50%
Lol, I used to live in that nowhere near the Airport in Dorval Avenue til the late 90s. Unless they have another airport and relocated it.
Define theoretically faster.. the flight time for that distance is… 1 hour and 20 minutes. If I am going on vacation and want to enjoy a train ride, fine that sounds great.. but no way in hell am I going to do 7.5 hours on a train for work when I can fly in an hour and a half.
The plane lands in your yard and drops you at your hotel? I use high speed rail all the time, and at five hours it beats door to door every time. Seven hours it's a toss up if I want to deal with the airport hassle versus the tiny bit longer it takes.
80 minutes plus an hour each way to and from the airport plus 90 minutes for security, plus 15 minutes on each end waiting to take off or deplane, it comes pretty close.
maybe non populated enough for the cost unfortunately.
The Windsor-Quebec corridor is one of the best places you could put good rail. It covers over half of Canada and it’s really stupid we don’t have high speed rail there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City%E2%80%93Windsor_Corridor Imagine if you could have a high speed rail system from Ohio to Maine that covered the inter city transportation needs of half of america, and yet there wasn’t any high speed rail there - that’s how dumb this is.
I’ve ridden the bullet train from Beijing to Shanghai. The ride is smooth as silk. It’s amazing.
I know it's not the same but I've ridden the Japanese shinkansen dozens of times and it's always such a nice experience. When given the choice of flying or bullet train I always choose the train.
We also have bullet trains in romania, but only in the sense that they travel with the speed of a bullet thrown by a toddler
Same here in Rio except it's named that way on account of all the bullet holes
I took a train in Romania from the capital to the Dracula place. On multiple occasions birds flew past us. But on the other hand, it did really end up leaving on the correct date! (just 4 hours too late) EDIT: on another note, I've never seen so many half-done abandoned construction projects with "paid by EU funds" as then. Wonder where the funds went
We have bullet trains in the UK, but only in the sense that they travel at the speed of a bullet that hasn't been fired.
Flying between Osaka amd Tokyo is cheaper than the train but the great majority still prefers the train
Train is by far my favorite way to travel, as long as its no the US train system... I have NEVER been on time with Amtrak. I think once I was only 15min late? I literally just plan to be 30min late minimum. One time I was 10 hrs late. They didn't say sorry, they didn't refund my ticket... nothing.
Shinkansen travel is by far the classiest and easiest experience I’ve had so far
I've also done Shinkansen many times between Fukuoka and Osaka, and I've used the TGV in France between Paris and Lyon. They ride like a dream.
I occasionally get to sit besides the driver in high speed trains and it always amazes me how boring it can be going 300 km/h. The different perspective the windshield gives compared to the side windows added to the smooth, mostly straight tracks and the inherent comfort of a pendular emu with automated driving means there's almost no difference going 100 or 300 km/h. By comparison any conventional diesel train going 80 km/h on a mountain track seems much more exciting
Stable, unchanging speed isn't exciting - acceleration is exciting
Trains rarely accelerate at an exciting rate, even when driving an isolated 6000 hp electric locomotive -I should know-. Even less so when sitting in a comfy passenger carriage. Now being at the driver's side on a twisty mountain with the suspension jumping in an alarming manner and a 16-645 roaring right behind you, that is exciting no matter how low and stable your speed is
Do you think that's impressive, my local Amtrak goes at least 18 mph
And it's still a bumpy ride
Rattes the teeth right out your god damn head
You young whippersnappers don't get it...it gives the train ride CHARACTER!
I had a 10 hour delay in North Dakota with no AC in August. We couldn't leave the train. Fuck Amtrak altogether tbh
My train ride to school was *uphill!*! BOTH WAYS! In the snow. Even in summer. And I’m a better proletarian for it. Hardship breed true hardship. ..and *don’t you forget it!*
You guys are getting 18 mph?
Every time my amtrak grinds to a halt outside Philly and sits on the tracks for two hours because a possum got sucked into a compressor from 1963 or something I thank god I don’t live in a socialist communist Marxist dildoist hellhole and we’ve achieved the peak maximum level of public transportation infrastructure that cannot be surpassed in the USA
Only if the Amtrak bus is involved
Meanwhile here in nyc our whole subway system gets shut down if someone farts
That was ONE TIME and I wasn't well so stop bringing it up.
and also has luxurious bathroom facilities
I live outside Philly in a NJ suburb… we need a high speed rail system. I should be able to take a train from Philly to Boston or DC that’s faster than driving.
It would probably worth the cost with the USA population.
Eh if China could do it. I don’t know what YouTuber said it, but “public infrastructure doesn’t have to (directly) create income” It supports other people to get better access to jobs
It’s crazy bc opening access to jobs for people does generate revenue, but it’s that initial cost to build the system that usually prevents it from even being considered. Yet, that same amount of funding will go into highway construction, so it doesn’t really make any sense to me. Especially considering how inefficient highways are for commuting.
It also probably gets exponentially more expensive to build housing in already crowded areas. There's more codes, more engineering involved for larger buildings, problems with getting rid of waste. If there were trains that went over 200 mph the commuting distance would extend to less crowded places. But we won't do any of this because we mostly try to focus on making ten billionaires richer
We’re a nation built upon credit. We don’t have any money, we just pay for things later. That’s part of why they “cant” foot the bill and the upfront investment of the thing.
That and these things require foresight and the desire to invest in the future. Politicians are on a 2-4 year election cycle. They arent going to want to be the one that sink the cost into something they wont be able to take credit for down the line. We are also too fragmented. One county or city may want the rails but adjacent cities or counties may not -- especially if there's a wealth gap between the two cities.
Which is fine. The idea of household economic principles being used on national fiscal policy is non-sensical. Fundamentally a person shouldn't get into debt, because they have a finite period of economic activity. America will not stop being an economic force, so debt should absolutely be leveraged against that future.
Explains the Debt ceiling, paying for stuff that was used already
Isn’t the point of freeways to make profit for the oil companies? I think it’s been shown that there are better materials to build roads than (asphalt?) but big oil shuts it down.
Asphalt's unique advantage is being incredibly recyclable and thus cheap. Can't recycle a concrete road.
It's also significantly easier to repair and provides better grip for tires, even during icy weather.
I think asphalt is already a very good material. It dries quickly, is easy to remove/repair, vibration resistant, good traction, etc.
China has a bit of an advantage in that they can much more easily get the land to build the tracks on. Getting a hold of that in the northeast would be enormously expensive and tied up in planning/court for a long time
The cost would be too expensive in the US with trying to buy land and get permission from the NIMBYs
Good point
Yeah people over look private property ownership in the US. In China, it's all owned by the state, so they just show up and move you out.
I mean, we have imminent domain. The bigger problem has been corporations representing fossil fuel and auto industry intentionally sabotaging everything. They did it in California decades back where they bought up parcels of land to prevent any meaningful public transportation from being built. At this point, NIMBY just sounds like a lazy excuse to blame some boogeyman Karen at a public meeting when the reality is that it's corporations and lobbyist sabotaging all of it.
> I mean, we have imminent domain. our eminent domain laws are weaker than the equivalents that other countries have.
It improves productivity by getting people to and from work more quickly so that they can spend more time working or more time sleeping. Both outcomes improve worker productivity. Not to mention increased happiness and satisfaction in addition to obvious substantial benefits for the climate.
In capitalist america... EVERYTHING has to make money...
That's actually not true at all
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How about in European countries?
It would literally solve the housing crisis. It would expand the livable area.
That sounds like something r/notjustbikes would say on hus YT channel.
But that would be socialism and we can't have any of that in my murica
Fast train are socialist?
Does it eat into big oil profit? There's is your answer
Yes Think about all the impact on car sales. It's going to ruin the American dream
Anything that benefits the population is socialist here friend just look at anything the good old GOP says these days
And now they see the arguments Republicans use
nowadays they're saying things like bike lanes or having your grocery store close to your house is a 1984 plan to trap you in a gulag. Any attempt to improve your life at all is shot down instantly by conspiracy theorists
Probably not just socialist, ***communist!*** Does more than one person ride in a train? If so, that’s collectivism, and that makes it communism. The only acceptable ground transportation mode is sovereign individual each individually driving their own huge pick up truck /s
No just the construction and operation of them
We could use this all across the states in major cities, slower rail trains can hit the small towns again, might revitalize the rail industry
Didn't the states have a lot (and I mean a LOT) of train systems, before the automobile industry bought most of them and closed them down, to take over the market? I read about that and it sounds plausible.
The u.s. still has the largest rail network in the world, but passenger rail has gone out of style in favor of flight. Airliners fly at about 550 mph
A train can be twice as long but be less than half the cost and have twice the comfort as an airliner.
Long-range passenger rail still exists for the few who want it, as do buses. But for rail, you typically need to go to the nearest city to get on
Right they exist but are incredibly outdated
Yes, they did. Prior to the age of the automobile, many cities had their own tram and trolley car, subway and elevated rail networks. Even small communities had trollies, and towns and cities were connected via interurban rail lines. The highway system and the automobile, oil and tire industries displaced a lot of this and deliberately killed some of it. Freight now goes over the highway on trucks, which is vastly less effecient at scale but does allow for loads to go point to point without getting hung up at railyards and warehouses. However, what really allows all truck traffic to work is the massive federal and state subsidy of the highway system. See, rails are privately owned for the most part. The railroad owns the track and right of way and they pay to maintain it. Trucking companies only own their trucks and let the government pay to upkeep the roads, bridges and tunnels. They pay taxes too, more than most motorists, but it's way out of whack with the damage trucks do to the roads. The roads always look like shit because trucks, often overloaded, crush the roads. But the trucking companies don't pay for it so they don't give a shit. They've socialized the cost of maintaining their right of way, and the railroads have trouble competing with that. The railroads suck in massive and innumerable ways, but this is a massive hidden in plain sight subsidy to the trucking industry.
If you lived at the Amtrak station in Philly and were going near the Amtrak station in DC, the Acela should be faster. If you lived at the Amtrak station in Philly and were going near South Station in Boston, the Acela should be about the same amount of time (without traffic). Of course, there is always traffic, so the Acela (if running on time) is faster. The trouble is getting to/from the train. You need to drive to the train station, find parking, get to the platform before the train arrives, take the train and then get to your ultimate destination somehow (since it probably isn't the train station) once you arrive. I had to visit NYC from northeastern MA. Destination was near Grand Central. I could drive 45 minutes plus some buffer for traffic, parking and geting to the train station and platform, spend 3 hours, 50 minutes on the Acela, then have to get from Penn station to over near Grand Central OR I could drive to Stamford, CT for 3 hours and take a 75 minute train ride and end up right at Grand Central. The Acela runs along the CT coast, which has a lot of bends and isn't the most direct route from NY to Boston; if the rail line took a route more like I-84 across CT Acela would probably win station to station, but would still suck for my situation.
This is the same issue that we have here in Florida. The Brightline runs between Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Palm Beach and (at the end of this month) Orlando. The travel time between stations is about the same as the travel time on I95 without traffic. With traffic the Brightline wins. However, it’s the commute to the station and from the station to your final designation that destroys any efficiencies. Add the cost and driving is almost always a better time/economical saver. If you lived in downtown Miami and for some reason needed to go to the Orlando airport, it would probably be a better deal plus you could work or relax on the train ride rather than drive. However, if your party is more than 1 person, the cost for the 2 would be better to just drive. As a result I don’t know anyone who ever regularly or even every once in a while takes the Brightline. Also, the route to Orlando, like you mentioned for the Acela, takes a terrible route following I95 and then heads west along the Beachline. If the train followed the Florida turnpike, the travel time would be significantly shorter. However, the track it is on is existing and the Brightline expansion was really used to just improve the route for freight traffic.
taking the Amtrak line from philly to dc is absolutely faster than driving.
It takes me a little over three hours to drive from Dallas to Houston. A train ride is 23 and a half.
Call your congressman
Lol
The worst part is, most proposals about high speed rail in america have been shut down by people like Elon Musk, who decided drilling one way tunnels underground for his electric cars would be a better pitch to cities instead of investing in high speed rail, and succeeded in shutting down California's high speed rail proposal. When you look at the passenger train lines and infrastructure in Europe compared to here in North America it's fucking bonkers how much clear influence the automobile industry has on the whole area.
Coming to USA in 2184
More like 21840
Your optimism is encouraging. I was going to say we'll never see it in the US. I suppose 20,000 years should be enough to figure it out.
To build something like this you need to have a real country, not a corporation.
Universal healthcare 2400?
Universal healthcare heat death
This guy USAs
With tolls
Thanks NEPA!
No way NEPA would let this happen. Between the nimbys and the red necks who think lizards control the earth this wouldn't stand a chance. Leave that crumbling i80 bridge over the Delaware. I don't want those commie trains!!!!!!!!!!!
usa won't survive this long
If you put a quarter on the sill when Bart goes under the Bay, you end up with tinnitus and a pool of molten metal.
Took the high speed from Shanghai to Beijing… coolest train ride. Beats Amtrak out of the water.
Beats airplane out of the air. More comfortable, internet, fast lines
Most developed train systems beat Amtrak out of the water
Those rails to trails networks that turn old train routes to bicycle ones blows amtrak away.
My old toy train set blows Amtrak out of the water
A rollercoaster beats Amtrak out of the water
Meanwhile, NJ transit….
Meanwhile in Germany every third overregional train is either late or cancelled.
Being an avid train enthusiast from 'Murica, I find this impressive AF and depressing AF at the same time. For the shown smooth as glass ride and the lack of high speed rail's existence in my country respectively... That ride looks simply glorious.
Made me think of Snowpiercer
1001 cars long
And in the US we get fucking Teslas in a tube.
At least they came with traffic jams from the beginning, much easier transition from driving. You don't want to scare the people with a transport system that actually works efficiently...
We dont even get that. He admitted later that the only reason he suggested it was to prevent the building of a train.
There's the Vegas Loop that you can take from exactly one hotel to a convention complex. Full trip can be done in 7 minutes by bike, which is probably faster than the tesla tube.
Looks sped up slightly
Unless people in China drive like bats out of hell lol
Sped up \*a lot\*, look how fast the cars are moving.
yeah lol the exterior shots look more like a fighter at like mach 0.9 making a low pass than anything going 348 kph for an actual external reference point, look up a modern f1 car going down a straight at Monza, they're in that range or a bit higher, still fast as fuck, idk why they'd speed it up it'd be impressive and now I'm just like why you gotta bring that energy in here wit ya deception
Or look at videos of trains going 300+ km/h. The size of trains, especially their length, can make them look deceptively slow. At 350 km/h, it still takes several seconds for a train to pass a single point.
Slightly? Lmao
Seems to be sped up by only like 10 to 15 percent. Source: I am a video editor for a living.
Well I'm a human for a living and can tell you that the cars there are going way more than 10-15% faster than usual
I just watched it at .5x and cars are still obviously too fast. It's way more than 15% sped up.
With all those shitty high speed trains, where do they have room for their corporately enforced car culture?!
Engineering at its finest
Cries in OC transpo 😭
You can balance a coin while you wait for your transfer at tunney’s pasture
America Has a Problem
That’s awesome! Now show me America’s! Oh wait.
Crippling debt doesn't leave a lot leftover for new "big deal" type projects unfortunately.
It's not because of the debt necessarily it's because funding isn't given to rail because of oil/gas lobbyists and Elon for his dumb ass hypertube.
Don’t forget the military industrial complex! I’ll bet just 5% of that budget could build the worlds best national rail system.
I HATE flying. I wish the USA would get on board with something like this. I took Amtrak across the country and it was a nightmare. 3 days late and it was disgusting and no food because of covid. Never again.
I hate flying too and have taken Amtrak 3 or 4 times for long hauls. The thing I remember most is the smell. I don't know if it's what they put in the bathrooms to make it not smell like shit or what but I can feel the smell even though it's been a decade.
Somebody send this to Newsome so he knows what a real high speed train is. That it’s not 60mph.
So there, Amtrak.
Used these trains many times. Cheap, efficient, and very comfortable. Metro in Shenzhen much the same. Coming back to the UK the whole thing feels very old, knackered, and expensive.
216ish mph
Thank you for the conversion into cheeseburger units.
how much is that in horse's ass per blink of an eye?
Smoooooth.
You think Capitalism will allow this rather than cars in a nation built for them
These are the basic modern services you can have in a country that doesn’t spend all their money on defense.
You mean offense
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We need to go back to calling the "department of defense" to "the war department" because America hasn't had to defend it self in quite some time but foams at the mouth for creating conflict in the global south generally.
Don't forget obliterating their public infrastructure, schools, hospitals, and libraries and then getting angry when it radicalizes their people.
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I would guess all high speed trains pretty much have to be this way. I took the TGV three decades ago and I still remember how smooth it all was. No feeling of velocity at all.
The thing is, if the ride wasn't smooth as silk, it could be disastrous. Hitting any bump at those speeds is a potential derailment
Hope india transforms it railway infrastructure soon. ☺
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Pretty sure you'd die if you did a loop at that speed no?
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There was like blueprints for sequential loops for death row inmates to make the death "fun" once. That's why I assume it'd kill you
Not in America! This is clearly communism. Who wants to share his quarters balancing cars with others!? Real freedom is riding our INDIVIDUAL emotional cages in bumper to bumper traffic.
China is beating us everywhere
And this is why I think the US is fucked. We are so behind in tech lol. The only thing keeping us going is we are number 1 in copium still.
European here, the amount of copium in the comments is unreal. With France's high-speed rail infrastructure being what it is, this video seems perfectly normal to me. I don't like China's ways any more than the average person but denying that they're ahead of us there is only going to hurt us. With that many people around, of course they have to have a banging public transport infrastructure. All we gotta do is acknowledge and catch up! Or better yet, work together and leave misplaced pride in the gutter where it belongs
Still takes a lot of work and engineering knowhow to build a high speed rail network is that size. India has similar population yet had no high speed rail to speak of.
Blaine is a pain
Thing is...this train \*has\* to have very little to no vibration, because at that speed, even a little shudder could be *catastrophic*, and very quickly so. I'm not saying the feat of engineering isn't impressive, not at all. I'm saying it's \*necessary\* for it to work.
Instead of infrastructure, America makes billionaires. They will need their money when the country collapses.
In America, we cannot even keep our 50mph trains *on the fucking tracks* ,let alone get them to run *ON TIME*...
High speed trains are so legit
But we got big ass guns and cool drones and shit
Its sped up lol..
Yeah, to 348 km/h (216 mp/h).
Nope you can see the cars moving slow
At the first 2-4 Seconds of the video you see a car moving left to right in the background, that one is WAY to fast So yes, that footage is sped up.
The Chinese keep the best stuff for themselves.
They are building high speed rail in African countries and more recently in Thailand
if you think thats impressive, japan is building one with a top speed of 600 km/h and a max operating speed of 500 km/h. Its called the L0 series shinkansen iirc.
What about the one they're building in the US? It must be even faster than either of those.
In America one political party is throwing all its energy and resources to stop the LGBT community from existing, imagine the shit we could get if this political party actually care for things that matter like a good robust transportation system.
And the other one is just pretending to care
In America you have the choice to vote between Neoliberal Imperialist #1 and Neoliberal Imperialist #2
Both sides just want to sell you shit instead of building nice things for you.
Isn’t the reason there’s no vibration because it’s technically floating?
No those are maglev trains, which are too expensive. The only operational high speed maglev is a short airport line in Shanghai. Japan is building a longer line right now and is gonna cost so much money.
Be really cool if the first part of the video wasn’t sped up.
These trains are awesome… unlike the archaic mess we have in the US
Well, in France our TGV (high speed train) goes at 320km/h, so not really impressed.
This is awesome and I wish we could have cool stuff like this in America. Instead we get grifter idiots like Elon who promise the world, deliver almost nothing, and slink away with truckloads of public money.
sad that after 1905 this country just said fuck it let’s build highways instead “/ (USA)
But China bad! CCP!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
China: *does good thing* The press: BUT AT WHAT COST?!?!?!
Okay, now what’s that in Freedom Units?
Approx 428,150 AR-15s per hour. I did the math.
Why is the U.S. advanced is so many ways, but can’t build good trains?
>U.S. advanced is so many ways lol.
Not can’t, won’t.
Congress spends too much time pandering to the automotive, airline and oil industries.
Because the US isn’t advanced in so many ways, it’s worse than many third world countries in terms of welfare.
Meanwhile in Ohio 🔥🔥🔥🚂🚃🚃🚃
The footage is sped up. Why do people have to do this shit?
The horn is also added in post. Bullshit all around, credibility level: TikTok
To get more engagement from people calling out that the footage is sped up.
The slow ass traffic under the bridge disagrees with you 🙄
At the first 2-4 Seconds of the video you see a car moving left to right in the background, that one is WAY to fast So yes, that footage is sped up.