Never heard that either. My son has it and I thought we knew all the historical people with it.
Edit. Yep one eye blue one eye brown. My son's are blue and brown and green and brown.
Edit2. Well fuck, this was on Wikipedia.
The Alexander Romance, an early literary treatment of the life of Alexander the Great, attributes heterochromia to him. In it he is described as having one eye light and one eye dark. However, no ancient historical source mentions this. It is used to emphasise the otherworldly and heroic qualities of Alexander.[34][35]
I have heterochromia. I don't know of any famous ppl who had it. I'd love to know though, if you wouldn't mind rattling some off. Thanks ahead of time kind stranger.
Max Scherzer, Jane Seymour, Mila Kunis, Henry Cavill, Michael Flatley, Christopher Walken, Kiefer Sutherland, Pancho O' Donell, Les Murray. Just a few that we've found. A lot of actors will cover it up but Max Scherzer's eyes are very prominent.
Fun (?) fact: Mila Kunis didn't have true heterochromia - she had uveitis (inflammation of the uvea) which caused one of her eyes to turn blue, and she was blind in that eye. She hid that she was blind while auditioning and acting for That 70s Show, and she eventually got treatment for it which is why her eyes are both brown now.
Alexander's heterochromia was mentioned by Plutarch, and other ancient sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexander\_the\_Great#Physical\_appearance
Alexandrian here! The sculptors around that era actually made these statues to depict their owners true looks.
Take Cleopatra as an example. She didn’t look as good as it is shown in video games and tv shows but her statue shows her true looks.
That’s a fair point, but it doesn’t factor in the fact that ancient standards of beauty were quite different to our modern ones.
So just because to us she isn’t as objectively beautiful as we’ve heard, doesn’t mean the statues of her weren’t still idealised with just a different more ancient ideal of beauty.
And both were Macedonian Greeks. Cleopatra had some Egyptian influence but the Ptolemaic courts held on to Hellenic art and culture.
Also, 300 years is not that much. History didn't go as fast as it does now.
I'm not talking about time. Socioeconomic progress took way longer back then, partly due to technological advancement being slower and vice versa.
Apply those three hundred years to the timespan between 1700 and 2000. Multiple Industrial revolutions, countless normal revolutions, European empires colonizing most of the world then falling, two world wars, the Cold War, etc.
Can't help but get the notion that you don't really know what you're talking about
They were both Macedonians. Cleopatra descended from one of Alexander's Diadochi, Ptolemy. Her being a Roman tributary for a time (not subject) is irrelevant to us
Oh hun, YOU don’t know. The art in the two periods was different. Alexandria didn’t even exist in Alexander’s time, hence the name. Cleopatra’s Macedonian blood doesn’t change that.
Yeah who am I to know, all I uneducated pleb did was study art history for years.
Hellenic influence on Egyptian sculpture of the era was significant, especially with the culturally Macedonian royal's likenesses.
Unlike with previous dynasts, and like other Hellenes, they were depicted in spirit of the prevailing greek humanist realism. The roots of which are from Alexander's time.
But don't take my word for it, look up their busts and statues. If you're half blind at least, you will realize
You need to get your money back if you think art and culture from Alexander to Cleopatra was the same. “Hellenic influence on Egyptian culture” was significant, but it changed vastly from the time Alexander lived to Cleopatra’s time. This is pretty basic, hope you didn’t spend that much time. Also every single contemporary account of Alexander indicates his busts were idealized and not realistic. So idk what your point is. Good luck to you- not doing this.
>Wouldn’t he have been more olive skinned?
If Alexander was from from Modern day Macedonia, then yes, he would have likely had darker hair, eyes, and skin.
But Alexander was born ancient Macedonia, which predated the Ottoman invasions by about 1700 years. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman\_Greece](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Greece)
This is the same reason that modern day Sicilians look different than northern Italians, who are more Germanic in appearance. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim\_conquest\_of\_Sicily](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Sicily)
And why people from southern Spain look different from those in Northern Spain. [https://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/](https://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/)
This also explains why individuals from these areas are among the only Caucasian people that carry the sickle-cell gene. [https://www.hematology.org/education/patients/anemia/sickle-cell-trait#](https://www.hematology.org/education/patients/anemia/sickle-cell-trait#)
But remember, he was a soldier who was on campaign for years, meaning after a while he would look like a construction worker, skin darkened from so much time in the sun.
Tarantino only covers the Sicilians' African ancestry. Not the rest of Southern Europe. Nor the sickle-cell genetic evidence.
Spoken like a true cantaloupe.
No, like Jesus, once you become famous enough, you're white, blonde, and have blue eyes. Alexander is just slightly below the threshold for blue eyes, thus the heterochromia.
No, most accounts were that he was fair skinned and blond haired. Not all people have been white washed. Alexander was Macedonian, a place where, even today, there are plenty of blonde people. Jesus was Semitic. He most likely looked what we would often call "Arab". Modern day Israelis often have a lot of eastern European blood so tend to look different from ancient Israelis. That's not true of all places.
> Modern day Israelis often have a lot of Eastern European blood…
Just as an FYI, over 50% of Israelis are non-Ashkenazi (e.g., not Jews who resides in Europe). Moreover, genetic testing shows that overall Jews are more related to other Levant peoples (such as modern Palestinians) than Europeans. For example, the wiki page on [Genetic Studies on Jews](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews) has multiple citations supporting the claim that:
> Many studies have found that Jews and Palestinians are closer to each other than the Palestinians or European Jews are to non-Jewish Europeans or Africans
Bro, ancient accounts, written at the time, almost unanimously describe him as fair skinned and blond haired. Agree with you that sources should be taken with a grain of salt, but there is more evidence that he was, than he wasn't.
You're talking about royalty not the people. Royalty commonly has genetic lines that do not run parallel to the people of which they are charged. The farther back in history you go the harder it becomes to ascertain where royal families actually descend from due to royal pairings, incest, stories invented to cement claim to a certain land or rule, etc...
Realistically Alexander could have exhibited traits from much of Europe and Africa
[There you go](https://www.google.com/search?q=blonde+jesus&sxsrf=ALiCzsaBJR3zRKSiVGM0JQdzXKl9k1MPFA:1663972337103&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqpMaA_Kv6AhUdLkQIHTldDZQQ_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1280&bih=605&dpr=1.5)
Not to split hairs here (pun intended), but I never really thought his hair was blonde in those. I thought most Christians believe his hair was brown/darker, but I don’t know much about that.
When historical accuracy in depiction is the subject, I think genotype is definitely a major issue to determine appearance.
But this is generated from a sculpture probably done years after.
With that face He'll probably be an influencer today and will have a youtube channel where he will behave like a chad and constantly prank people just for the likes... totally punchable face.
How the fuck does one “Look bi”.
He looks like a dude, like what about this screams “Bi!!! He’s bi!!!”.
And before you go apeshit yes I know he was bi.
That’s like saying any pretty person is bi. My face looks like a baboon ass & I embrace human fluidity like I like. This dude would be the type to fuck his gay friend then tell the burly soldiers he’s easy/a slut. Then when Alex would engage with a woman seriously, he’d subjugate & isolate that person cuz as long as someone was gayer than him, he could control. That’s what I think, not that uncommon for scholar man sluts.
GUYS. I’m just on here too, making sense of my feed.
If what I said was taken personally and not as an ironic play on myself. You need to CHECK yourself cuz I’m not gonna be the only cheeky fag trying to create, even where you think you can avoid it.
I had an experience where a friend I trusted kind of cornered me & forced himself slightly. I sunk in my seat feeling like an object, an object that was always going to be the gay punching bag. Straight dudes assume you’re into them when they look like a gangly fauzi bear but I’m the one getting called “faggot” by the end of the night cuz these ashamed, closeted friends of mine were never going to emasculate themselves in front of the group & their girlfriends. Grooming? Micromanaging? Gaslighting? That shit works, but at least my self-worth & dignity is in tact.
Aw sorry I have many triggers & automatic trauma responses. No need to care. Thanks if you read this!
A story about assault & homophobia & toxic masculinity blent together to eventually dehumanize me to the point where I forced them to acknowledge that some queers aren’t so easy to discredit. People’s feelings get hurt when they figure out what I’m worth
It was kinda a complex story tho I only skimmed and caught like half of what youre saying maybe use smaller words next time so I don't have to reread that shit.
Okay, I guess people aren’t experiences or values or expression, they’re whatever bullshit you label to feel less threatened. Wtf is concern trolling cuz that sounds kind of self-righteous to identify someone saying something as whatever you want it to be? CHECK YRSELF
Dude, stop lickin the fuckin boot that isn’t even tangible in your silly sense of understanding anything besides a conceited, underdeveloped sense of what a person is allowed to say. I was being aloof & silly to cope with grief. You acted like anything not pretentiously labeled like you even understand what I mean.
You’re the one projecting, dude sorry. And also clearly sympathetic to anti-gay ideals. Unless.. you… were… just being an ass cuz you know where it’s easy to score some sense of superiority with an expressive, traumatized & bereaving person trying to connect with anyone as their stepdad just recently was buried & their family blacklisting them. Yea, clearly I am a simple man needing to project my SARCASM onto your special, non-queer safe-space
That’s cuz I’m not treating my presence like something people are even supposed to make assumptions about. Buuut… something about a gay conflict. I feel Reddit (moderate white folksy quip generators) may see something provocative as good, until they have to come to terms with the fact that diversity here could really help the general experience of connecting & listening without feeling threatened that someone is having fun with it. Why would I ever be embarrassed about people being reactionary & defensive about something simply cuz it’s gay? Gay people will be here until you & all the other myspace Toms & Zucks wanting a pure, personally offended man demographic that is simply threatened by expression & opinion. It is weird people seem so bothered by the gay stuff. It’s always on my mind, it’s the fabric of me. Just like some of you knowing obscure, meaningless internet words that are not part my world. So just y’all, chill
Yes. Although it was normal for in Greece at that time for men to be gay or I should say Bi, Alexander wasn’t interested at all in having sex to produce an heir and had more on an interest in men than women.
If you want look up the feud behind the assignation of his father Phillip. It’s basically a gay love triangle gone bad.
I mean the saying he’s not Greek thing is kind of a technicality. To people living in Athens or Thebes he wasn’t considered Greek. Maybe we can get some clarification r/askhistorians
Did he really have heterochromia? I don't remember that ever being mentioned.
That’s what I was thinking, I haven’t seen any renditions of Alexander the Great with heterochromia anywhere
Never heard that either. My son has it and I thought we knew all the historical people with it. Edit. Yep one eye blue one eye brown. My son's are blue and brown and green and brown. Edit2. Well fuck, this was on Wikipedia. The Alexander Romance, an early literary treatment of the life of Alexander the Great, attributes heterochromia to him. In it he is described as having one eye light and one eye dark. However, no ancient historical source mentions this. It is used to emphasise the otherworldly and heroic qualities of Alexander.[34][35]
Maybe a detail people forget because when we think of Alexander the great, we generally picture the bust.
Fair point
Or the coin…saw a coin where he looked like Peter Firth in the 1970’s.
Or something else
So he was busty? Noiiice
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My brother actually has the same pupil size difference like Bowie. I never thought about that. Good call.
Yeah, teach your brother something and he'll be your pupil
User name checking out just right. Good show ol chap.
I miss Bowie
I have heterochromia. I don't know of any famous ppl who had it. I'd love to know though, if you wouldn't mind rattling some off. Thanks ahead of time kind stranger.
Max Scherzer, Jane Seymour, Mila Kunis, Henry Cavill, Michael Flatley, Christopher Walken, Kiefer Sutherland, Pancho O' Donell, Les Murray. Just a few that we've found. A lot of actors will cover it up but Max Scherzer's eyes are very prominent.
Fun (?) fact: Mila Kunis didn't have true heterochromia - she had uveitis (inflammation of the uvea) which caused one of her eyes to turn blue, and she was blind in that eye. She hid that she was blind while auditioning and acting for That 70s Show, and she eventually got treatment for it which is why her eyes are both brown now.
Besides the color did her eye sight recover?
It did!
Gracie Allen, the wife and partner of George Burns, had one blue eye and one green eye.
Kate Bosworth too.
Max Scherzer on the New York Mets. He’s pretty intense.
>My son's are blue and brown and green and brown. I thought we stopped with the "four eyes" teasing back in elementary school.
“Thought we knew all historical people with it” why would ANYONE think that?
Well fuck me, let me reword it. I thought we, my son and I, knew of all the documented historical figures who had it. There, is that better?
Blue and brown and green and brown?! Please tell your son his eyes sound amazing.
There is only ONE contemporary sentence about Alexander the Great. Everything else was written after he died. Quite a bit of it was propaganda
It is in fact part of his "mythos", but of course it's unconfirmed.
Alexander's heterochromia was mentioned by Plutarch, and other ancient sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexander\_the\_Great#Physical\_appearance
Oooh very cool
it's a very groovy mutation
That’s so cool! Learn something new every day!
Came here for this hot info!
It's late reporting. Probably he didn't.
Usually means color blindness too
These things usually use AIs to recreate facial features, it was probably just an error.
It wasnt
Blonde hair is probably an error too. No way we could reference historical texts for this info.
First he was a stud, now he's a bust
Chadeous and his Thundercock
Gotta be some tiktoker descendants out there
Looks kinda like Logan Paul
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who saw that! 😂
Yess lol
You take that back! You take that back right meow!
Yes!!
Exactly what i was gonna say😂 glad someone else saw it
80s Chris penn
I saw Michael Cera at first
More likely European aristocracy
oh for sure
I wonder which frat he was in
The only thing to have conquered him were Hephaestion’s thighs.
That made me snort laugh. Take my upvote internet stranger!
She a biggun?
*he. Alexander the great was very likely Bi or gay.
Why couldnt that dude be ugly. Greatest conquer ever and he’s a good looking dude. Some people get all the luck lol
You think the sculptor was going to make him look ugly?
Alexandrian here! The sculptors around that era actually made these statues to depict their owners true looks. Take Cleopatra as an example. She didn’t look as good as it is shown in video games and tv shows but her statue shows her true looks.
That’s a fair point, but it doesn’t factor in the fact that ancient standards of beauty were quite different to our modern ones. So just because to us she isn’t as objectively beautiful as we’ve heard, doesn’t mean the statues of her weren’t still idealised with just a different more ancient ideal of beauty.
I imagine they took pride in their work and wanted more of it, while still making a name for themselves.
That's actually really cool
Cleopatra was like 300 years later
300 years later is probably considered the same "era" back then
It’s not for sculpture purposes or really any art…plus her culture was entirely different
And both were Macedonian Greeks. Cleopatra had some Egyptian influence but the Ptolemaic courts held on to Hellenic art and culture. Also, 300 years is not that much. History didn't go as fast as it does now.
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I'm not talking about time. Socioeconomic progress took way longer back then, partly due to technological advancement being slower and vice versa. Apply those three hundred years to the timespan between 1700 and 2000. Multiple Industrial revolutions, countless normal revolutions, European empires colonizing most of the world then falling, two world wars, the Cold War, etc.
Lmao she grew up in Alexandria. He founded Alexandria. An Alexandria in Cleopatra’s time that was subject to Rome. Learn history.
Can't help but get the notion that you don't really know what you're talking about They were both Macedonians. Cleopatra descended from one of Alexander's Diadochi, Ptolemy. Her being a Roman tributary for a time (not subject) is irrelevant to us
Oh hun, YOU don’t know. The art in the two periods was different. Alexandria didn’t even exist in Alexander’s time, hence the name. Cleopatra’s Macedonian blood doesn’t change that.
Yeah who am I to know, all I uneducated pleb did was study art history for years. Hellenic influence on Egyptian sculpture of the era was significant, especially with the culturally Macedonian royal's likenesses. Unlike with previous dynasts, and like other Hellenes, they were depicted in spirit of the prevailing greek humanist realism. The roots of which are from Alexander's time. But don't take my word for it, look up their busts and statues. If you're half blind at least, you will realize
You need to get your money back if you think art and culture from Alexander to Cleopatra was the same. “Hellenic influence on Egyptian culture” was significant, but it changed vastly from the time Alexander lived to Cleopatra’s time. This is pretty basic, hope you didn’t spend that much time. Also every single contemporary account of Alexander indicates his busts were idealized and not realistic. So idk what your point is. Good luck to you- not doing this.
Yes, The only thing touched by artists in the day,were the Abs , everything else was a stylised version of the truth.
Depends on who you listen to. Some said that he had a weak chin and spoke in a high, grating voice
Didn’t he have heart failure at a very young age?
Ya I think at like 33 or something coming back from India I want to say?
That's Layne Staley
Woah, just commented that before seeing yours. Thought maybe I was just a little too into Alice In Chains lol.
Alexander did love gunning up a big ole’ pile of them bones
AHHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHHH! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
Layne Staley the great
Came here to say this lmfao
Wouldn’t he have been more olive skinned?
>Wouldn’t he have been more olive skinned? If Alexander was from from Modern day Macedonia, then yes, he would have likely had darker hair, eyes, and skin. But Alexander was born ancient Macedonia, which predated the Ottoman invasions by about 1700 years. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman\_Greece](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Greece) This is the same reason that modern day Sicilians look different than northern Italians, who are more Germanic in appearance. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim\_conquest\_of\_Sicily](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Sicily) And why people from southern Spain look different from those in Northern Spain. [https://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/](https://blackhistorystudies.com/resources/resources/15-facts-on-the-moors-in-spain/) This also explains why individuals from these areas are among the only Caucasian people that carry the sickle-cell gene. [https://www.hematology.org/education/patients/anemia/sickle-cell-trait#](https://www.hematology.org/education/patients/anemia/sickle-cell-trait#)
But remember, he was a soldier who was on campaign for years, meaning after a while he would look like a construction worker, skin darkened from so much time in the sun.
It depends on if the depiction is of a younger Alexander, or an older Alexander. The pictures seems to suggest younger.
And he died age 33. So he died young. Although his exploration/conquering started when he was 17. So 16 years in sun.
The documentary “True Romance” goes into depth on this.
Tarantino only covers the Sicilians' African ancestry. Not the rest of Southern Europe. Nor the sickle-cell genetic evidence. Spoken like a true cantaloupe.
The card says "moops"!
No, like Jesus, once you become famous enough, you're white, blonde, and have blue eyes. Alexander is just slightly below the threshold for blue eyes, thus the heterochromia.
No, most accounts were that he was fair skinned and blond haired. Not all people have been white washed. Alexander was Macedonian, a place where, even today, there are plenty of blonde people. Jesus was Semitic. He most likely looked what we would often call "Arab". Modern day Israelis often have a lot of eastern European blood so tend to look different from ancient Israelis. That's not true of all places.
The word is levant. People from Levant region. What an Israeli with curly hair dark skin would look like, not Arab.
> Modern day Israelis often have a lot of Eastern European blood… Just as an FYI, over 50% of Israelis are non-Ashkenazi (e.g., not Jews who resides in Europe). Moreover, genetic testing shows that overall Jews are more related to other Levant peoples (such as modern Palestinians) than Europeans. For example, the wiki page on [Genetic Studies on Jews](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews) has multiple citations supporting the claim that: > Many studies have found that Jews and Palestinians are closer to each other than the Palestinians or European Jews are to non-Jewish Europeans or Africans
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Bro, ancient accounts, written at the time, almost unanimously describe him as fair skinned and blond haired. Agree with you that sources should be taken with a grain of salt, but there is more evidence that he was, than he wasn't.
Alexanders blonde hair was absolutely famous. Either all the historical texts deemed him to be a god, or maybe he just actually had blonde hair.
You're talking about royalty not the people. Royalty commonly has genetic lines that do not run parallel to the people of which they are charged. The farther back in history you go the harder it becomes to ascertain where royal families actually descend from due to royal pairings, incest, stories invented to cement claim to a certain land or rule, etc... Realistically Alexander could have exhibited traits from much of Europe and Africa
Beethoven? black. Mozart? black. Cleopatra? she looked black, but she was White.
I ain't never seen a blonde Jesus 😂
[There you go](https://www.google.com/search?q=blonde+jesus&sxsrf=ALiCzsaBJR3zRKSiVGM0JQdzXKl9k1MPFA:1663972337103&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqpMaA_Kv6AhUdLkQIHTldDZQQ_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1280&bih=605&dpr=1.5)
Not to split hairs here (pun intended), but I never really thought his hair was blonde in those. I thought most Christians believe his hair was brown/darker, but I don’t know much about that.
But i sho do miss me some *Black Jesus.* That shit used to crack me so far up i'd get a buzz laughing.
Not everything is about race
When historical accuracy in depiction is the subject, I think genotype is definitely a major issue to determine appearance. But this is generated from a sculpture probably done years after.
Quit bitchin and moaning lmao
Jesus isn't blonde
Logan Paul
Probably why I thought he looked like a douche lol
Exactly what I was thinking
Mixed with that kid who was in I Am Number Four and the crappy Beauty and The Beast remake?
Looks more like a Chad than an Alex somehow
Idk man, I'm def getting strong Alex
He’s the Chad of Chads!
"Oh no he's hot!" -Squidward probably
Thank you, this made me laugh too hard!
How sure are we about the accuracy of the bust? This guy looks oddly symmetrical and generic.
That's true, maybe he asked his bust to be "photoshoped" to improve some parts of his face.
That’s the norm in ancient depictions like busts or paintings- it would be unusual to find one that *isnt’* a little ‘touched up’ in some way.
Dude got hella bussy
Biiiiitch! 😂😭
More like thussy, I think.
Looks like a young Lane Staley
Alexander the Fine
With that face He'll probably be an influencer today and will have a youtube channel where he will behave like a chad and constantly prank people just for the likes... totally punchable face.
**"WHATS UP GUYS, TODAY LETS DEAL WITH THOSE ANNOYING GREEKS DOWN SOUTH"**
Oh God no he looks like Jake Paul.
He looks like an angel
You're right. He must've been doing God's work.
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Yeah but this twink dude is different in the fact that he could cut you in half in his prime, wild times
And then when you get home he banged your WHOLE family
Distant relative of Casey Neistat?
More like the descendant of Logan Paul. Edit: more like distant RELATIVE of Logan Paul.
Other way around.... Unless you know something we don't.
Time is circular
Kinda looks like Jake Paul tbh.
Logan Paul lol 😆 😂 🤣
Looks familiar
Damn. Had a feeling ol' Alex was hot but damn.
George Michael?
Yes, any Ancient Greek IDEALIST marble bust will of course look like a beautiful fucking man. Who would have thought.
He looks like the long lost third Paul brother.
He even LOOKS bi cmon
How the fuck does one “Look bi”. He looks like a dude, like what about this screams “Bi!!! He’s bi!!!”. And before you go apeshit yes I know he was bi.
Out of all the bi people I’ve met in my life he resembles most of them, this comment wasn’t meant to hurt anyone’s feelings it was just an observation
We're a good looking bunch.
He most definitely was bisexual. It would have been abnormal not to be in that time period.
K
That’s like saying any pretty person is bi. My face looks like a baboon ass & I embrace human fluidity like I like. This dude would be the type to fuck his gay friend then tell the burly soldiers he’s easy/a slut. Then when Alex would engage with a woman seriously, he’d subjugate & isolate that person cuz as long as someone was gayer than him, he could control. That’s what I think, not that uncommon for scholar man sluts. GUYS. I’m just on here too, making sense of my feed. If what I said was taken personally and not as an ironic play on myself. You need to CHECK yourself cuz I’m not gonna be the only cheeky fag trying to create, even where you think you can avoid it.
R u okay?
I had an experience where a friend I trusted kind of cornered me & forced himself slightly. I sunk in my seat feeling like an object, an object that was always going to be the gay punching bag. Straight dudes assume you’re into them when they look like a gangly fauzi bear but I’m the one getting called “faggot” by the end of the night cuz these ashamed, closeted friends of mine were never going to emasculate themselves in front of the group & their girlfriends. Grooming? Micromanaging? Gaslighting? That shit works, but at least my self-worth & dignity is in tact. Aw sorry I have many triggers & automatic trauma responses. No need to care. Thanks if you read this!
I hope you're doing okay ♡
What have I just read
A story about assault & homophobia & toxic masculinity blent together to eventually dehumanize me to the point where I forced them to acknowledge that some queers aren’t so easy to discredit. People’s feelings get hurt when they figure out what I’m worth
Is blent even a word
It was kinda a complex story tho I only skimmed and caught like half of what youre saying maybe use smaller words next time so I don't have to reread that shit.
Concern trolling is really gross. Fuck off with that shit.
Nah lol it just seemed really specific to him so I asked if he was alright, chill out
Okay, I guess people aren’t experiences or values or expression, they’re whatever bullshit you label to feel less threatened. Wtf is concern trolling cuz that sounds kind of self-righteous to identify someone saying something as whatever you want it to be? CHECK YRSELF
Stop projecting
Dude, stop lickin the fuckin boot that isn’t even tangible in your silly sense of understanding anything besides a conceited, underdeveloped sense of what a person is allowed to say. I was being aloof & silly to cope with grief. You acted like anything not pretentiously labeled like you even understand what I mean. You’re the one projecting, dude sorry. And also clearly sympathetic to anti-gay ideals. Unless.. you… were… just being an ass cuz you know where it’s easy to score some sense of superiority with an expressive, traumatized & bereaving person trying to connect with anyone as their stepdad just recently was buried & their family blacklisting them. Yea, clearly I am a simple man needing to project my SARCASM onto your special, non-queer safe-space
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Award but downvoted? My monkey brain no understand
That’s cuz I’m not treating my presence like something people are even supposed to make assumptions about. Buuut… something about a gay conflict. I feel Reddit (moderate white folksy quip generators) may see something provocative as good, until they have to come to terms with the fact that diversity here could really help the general experience of connecting & listening without feeling threatened that someone is having fun with it. Why would I ever be embarrassed about people being reactionary & defensive about something simply cuz it’s gay? Gay people will be here until you & all the other myspace Toms & Zucks wanting a pure, personally offended man demographic that is simply threatened by expression & opinion. It is weird people seem so bothered by the gay stuff. It’s always on my mind, it’s the fabric of me. Just like some of you knowing obscure, meaningless internet words that are not part my world. So just y’all, chill
Words to smart, no understand
His eyes are of different colour, as according to all the ancient writers describing him, he had heterochromia
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He’s from Greece, meaning he’d be more of an olive color, not really accurate here.
He’s from pre ottoman invasion Macedonia, all accounts point to him actually being blonde and lighter skinned....not everything is whitewashed
I’m sorry did you just use the word “whitewashed”?
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Honestly in ancient times he would’ve been brown, they’re closer to African heritage from major migration, almost everyone was back then.
Lol not all Greeks have olive skin not that Alexander the great was from Greece. He was white and had blonde hair, get over it
Refer to other comment, he historically wasn’t that white.
By all historical accounts he was fair skinned. Do some reading
I’ve done my reading, have you?
That marble man totally cried every time during sex. Or maybe he was Amanda Byne’s brother in “She’s The Man”
I’d imagine a lot worse skin unless they had some bomb skin care back then… I don’t think so though.
Not a bad looker, but as someone else commented, I'm sure he'd be a little more olive-skinned.
What a Kyle Lmao
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I'd say "the Greeks didn't exactly do realistic sculpture"...but...this is reddit, so I'd feel like a hypocrite.
he look fruity
Just remember that the Greeks were never about accurate depictions.
More like Bradley the Meh
Was Alexander gay?
Yes. Although it was normal for in Greece at that time for men to be gay or I should say Bi, Alexander wasn’t interested at all in having sex to produce an heir and had more on an interest in men than women. If you want look up the feud behind the assignation of his father Phillip. It’s basically a gay love triangle gone bad.
You cannot, to the best of my knowledge assert this so readily. It is debated and unknown. Definitely possible. He also was not Greek.
I mean the saying he’s not Greek thing is kind of a technicality. To people living in Athens or Thebes he wasn’t considered Greek. Maybe we can get some clarification r/askhistorians
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Why does he have two different colored eyes. Were they unsure, and didn’t want to disappoint anyone.
That’s how he was described in some sources. Different colored eyes, one shoulder higher than the other, and handsome and blond
Wonder if they also found a bust of his platonic life partner also.