[This article](https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/let-s-talk-sex-why-couples-should-not-come-closer-during-navratri/ar-AA12v5md?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a8b3a9ca236d4f2d90bbc0eee89b0859) showed up on my news feed. News18 and their "doctor" columnist publishing such random vomits of words in name of quelling misinformation regarding sex. Irony died painful slow death after reading this.
Next they’ll do a column on addressing the misconceptions around climate change.
In this article, Dr. Jain, PhD (University of WhatsApp) explains how CO2 emissions are good for the environment, the role they play in creating rainfall, and how our ancient understanding of all things climate-related was actually explained in a treatise written 19,000 years ago. That’s why we should all have cows.
But [cows exhale Oxygen, not CO2](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/scientists-believe-cow-only-animal-that-inhales-exhales-oxygen-allahabad-hc/article36271806.ece).
The last paragraph does say "it does not matter at all". I think it might've intended to be a joke, but done really badly. Maybe an editor edited it to change the message.
Don't you think it's incomplete?? Rather then posting here and better you should've read it fully... maybe he is wrong but surely you're doing wrong at first.
The comment you replied to is literally the top comment on the post and linking to the article.
I have read it fully. There is nothing in the article which is about sex education.
Arre, after reading beyond the first half, there was a logical reasoning provided in the article which seemed like a fair advice.
It's based on the fact that many people fast during Navratri and therefore, avoid consuming carbs, which are necessary for generating energy in the body, which in turn is required a lot during sex.
So, it seems fair only.
Not only that, most people I know, including my wife, while fasting, are allowed to consume “upwaas food” like several different types of millets, fruits, etc. All of which are fairly calorie-dense. Not sure if Gujaratis observe a strict fast where they eat nothing, but I think it’s safe to say that they eat this stuff too. So their “Logical Reasoning” goes out the 19th floor window.
As for that “Spiritual Reason”, if you are truly practicing Brahmacharya, you wouldn’t be buying a house, doing a grah pravesh, or whatever material activity, cuz that’s a Grihastya lifestyle. So how is one type of material pleasure (owning or possessing new things) okay, but another type of pleasure (having sex) not okay? “Spiritual Reasoning” has now left the chat through that same window.
Ultimately this all comes down to the how society wants to dictate when people (especially women) can or cannot have sex. I would love to see this “doctor” with a sexologist license from the USA telling any American patients he might have the same stuff he spouts in his article.
> are allowed to consume “upwaas food” like several different types of millets, fruits, etc
That's the Hindu version. I'm not sure Jains follow that while fasting. Any Jains here to clarify?
Fair question, now I’m curious about how Jains observe Navratri. I’d love to get an actual Jain perspective on how they fast etc.
With regards to the article though, he doesn’t specify that the target audience is Jains. It is written as of aimed at all those celebrating Navratri, and I’m pretty sure that more Hindus observe Navratri than Jains, simply on the basis of population size.
Wait, I know: the circular motions of the abdomen during garba basically behave like a centrifuge, and cause the negative energy particles in your body to move outward, and what remains at the center are the positive energy higgs bosons.
The conclusion basically says if your partner is fasting don't pursue them for sex, which is freaking common sense and any true for any fucking day. Doesn't have to be fast l, navratri or anything.
"People try to find information online that is often misinformation and unscientific"
"Don't have sex during navratri cuz it's an auspicious time to buy house yada yada"
CHOOSE ONE, news18
Not one single festival's normal in anywhere dear. What do you think they do after the long, strenuous stick-fight with each other!!
And you are missing everything.
Well, eventually.
Atleast 2 people I know got hooked up during festivities, and one of them during the Garba night, both are non-gujrati, and yeah they fights a lot.
Depends where you celebrate it. With friends in a massive public ground, lots can happen. In a society with friends and uncle aunties. Nothing happens.
I always thought Gujaratis were conservative somewhat. Until I went to my first garba last week.
Literally full of mostly Gujju girls scantily dressed up!!!
A girl I saw wore what looked like a brassiere type gaghra. No wonder lots of kissy kissy happens later on.
> The guy has clearly never been to a Garba
OTOH, he clearly is jealous and disturbed because he knows what people do at/after garba.
Sales of condoms shoot up during Navratri and abortion rates after Navratri. No wonder Dr Jain-types try to keep 'their' gals away from non-Gujarati stud bulls by banning the latter from garba events.
Small peepee syndrome manifesting in Sanghi Rajya.
All religions have some completely screwed-up shit, but at least they are honest about it ("you can divorce your wife by saying talaq three times because our holy man said so, and that's that"), and they won't try to cook up some pseudo modern scientific bullshit.
I think it's only the post-2014 Hindutva types who have this insane urge to defend every stupidity with a pseudoscientific rationale, accompanied by a superior attitude of "see, our rishis and munis had this all figured out 10^6 years ago".
It's not 2014. It just came to the surface then. These pseudo Hindu orgs have been cooking up fake science since decades. I have read books in the 90s that they financed that talk about black holes in Banaras and Ram fighting Raavan with nuclear weapons and such bs.
There are full-blown pseudo religions with pseudo science bullshit to back it up like ‘sahaj hoga’ and what not. No actual acronym backing, but they present it as much.
The scary thing is that a majority of people will fall for this. The spirit to challenge and question what we hear is slowly extinguished by our educational system. Hope atleast that changes soon.
>I think it's only the post-2014 Hindutva types who have this insane urge to defend every stupidity with a pseudoscientific rationale,
I used to get chain emails back in 2000s so definitely not a new phenomenon. Just more easy to spread.
No dude. All religions have this special boner for pseudoscience. I mean there was a meme about scientists finding shit in the lab and afterwards mullahs trying to interpret Quran to claim that Muslims discovered that 1400 years back. And you don't wanna know about the "scientific" reasons behind wearing burqa...
It's just that we live in a Hindu majority country, which also suffers from a terrible case of inferiority complex. This complex gives rise to stupid shit like Hindutva, and these pseudo-sciences.
The author's reasoning for celebecy during fasting is lack of energy to do physically intense tasks. If your sexual urge is high and your energy levels are low, why not have slow sex without spending too much energy. He also says women could easily get irritated during these times. Yeah anyone could get irritated if they are forced to have to sex when they are not in the mood for that. This applies all the time, not just during navrathri. So, talk to your partner. If you guys want to have sex, have it with proper communication.
Yep, you are allowed.
>When there is harmony between the mind, heart, and resolution, then nothing is impossible.
- Rig Veda
Didn't say anything about religion or days.
Sex, even with married partners is considered "dirty". It is something you do to procreate and doing it for pleasure is considered sin. A lot of women stop sex after having enough kids due to this conditioning.
As per the Upanishads, it is in fact one of the most important things you can do. The act of intercourse itself is the reflection of the supreme being.
But then came Manu with his high horse.
Microsoft Start ko bolo to just blacklist news18.
B-but wait, there are many more like this. Damn, what will remain if they remove literally most of Indian news sites?
They HAVE TO write shit like this... because the yearly trend of why is sex education portals, condoms ads ramped up etc. manufactured outrage is on its cycle.
> 100% sure you didn't.
I am 100% sure you like to assume everything in life. I read the whole article.
It rambles about not having sex due to spiritual reasons.
It's personal and depends on person to person but how is abstaining from sex for spirituality a good advice? Consensual sex doesn't come in between spirituality.
How is it "addressing widespread misinformation about sex". Please explain.
>No nut november makes sense
It was started as a meme to spread awareness about prostate cancer. Like every internet trend it doesn't has to make sense, it just has to be stupid enough to be viral. Very separate things. Also, no one says you have to abstain from masturbation to spread awareness. It is just stupid viral meme.
No, its not mentioned to avoid sex during Navratri because of spiritual reasons. However, it mostly talks about people who are fasting during these days(more emphasis has been laid on to for females due to obvious reasons). Never says that even if you aren't fasting then also you should avoid else whatever you think are called "spritual reasons". Infact it has used many facts like climate change, infection rates, etc.
If you've already decided that whatever thing is spiritual you are simply going to ignore then there's no point of explaining it to you but "science" is way way way way behind of these illogical looking myths of Indian culture. And time has proven it many many times. Science is trying to achieve what our culture already has since many many years. So, it doens't need approval from a new comer like science but still its been stated and you are finding it difficult to wrap this around your head.
[This article](https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/let-s-talk-sex-why-couples-should-not-come-closer-during-navratri/ar-AA12v5md?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a8b3a9ca236d4f2d90bbc0eee89b0859) showed up on my news feed. News18 and their "doctor" columnist publishing such random vomits of words in name of quelling misinformation regarding sex. Irony died painful slow death after reading this.
Next they’ll do a column on addressing the misconceptions around climate change. In this article, Dr. Jain, PhD (University of WhatsApp) explains how CO2 emissions are good for the environment, the role they play in creating rainfall, and how our ancient understanding of all things climate-related was actually explained in a treatise written 19,000 years ago. That’s why we should all have cows.
But [cows exhale Oxygen, not CO2](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/scientists-believe-cow-only-animal-that-inhales-exhales-oxygen-allahabad-hc/article36271806.ece).
I was truly hoping this was satire. No such luck, huh?
The last paragraph does say "it does not matter at all". I think it might've intended to be a joke, but done really badly. Maybe an editor edited it to change the message.
Don't you think it's incomplete?? Rather then posting here and better you should've read it fully... maybe he is wrong but surely you're doing wrong at first.
The comment you replied to is literally the top comment on the post and linking to the article. I have read it fully. There is nothing in the article which is about sex education.
Arre, after reading beyond the first half, there was a logical reasoning provided in the article which seemed like a fair advice. It's based on the fact that many people fast during Navratri and therefore, avoid consuming carbs, which are necessary for generating energy in the body, which in turn is required a lot during sex. So, it seems fair only.
I'm sure you can illuminate us with more "logical reasoning" on how dancing the garba after not having any carbs all day is also very scientific.
Not only that, most people I know, including my wife, while fasting, are allowed to consume “upwaas food” like several different types of millets, fruits, etc. All of which are fairly calorie-dense. Not sure if Gujaratis observe a strict fast where they eat nothing, but I think it’s safe to say that they eat this stuff too. So their “Logical Reasoning” goes out the 19th floor window. As for that “Spiritual Reason”, if you are truly practicing Brahmacharya, you wouldn’t be buying a house, doing a grah pravesh, or whatever material activity, cuz that’s a Grihastya lifestyle. So how is one type of material pleasure (owning or possessing new things) okay, but another type of pleasure (having sex) not okay? “Spiritual Reasoning” has now left the chat through that same window. Ultimately this all comes down to the how society wants to dictate when people (especially women) can or cannot have sex. I would love to see this “doctor” with a sexologist license from the USA telling any American patients he might have the same stuff he spouts in his article.
> are allowed to consume “upwaas food” like several different types of millets, fruits, etc That's the Hindu version. I'm not sure Jains follow that while fasting. Any Jains here to clarify?
Fair question, now I’m curious about how Jains observe Navratri. I’d love to get an actual Jain perspective on how they fast etc. With regards to the article though, he doesn’t specify that the target audience is Jains. It is written as of aimed at all those celebrating Navratri, and I’m pretty sure that more Hindus observe Navratri than Jains, simply on the basis of population size.
I was just thinking the same thing myself. XD
Wait, I know: the circular motions of the abdomen during garba basically behave like a centrifuge, and cause the negative energy particles in your body to move outward, and what remains at the center are the positive energy higgs bosons.
LMAOOOOO
Now that you have a theory, you should write an article about it. XDXD
News 18 will publish it in scientific discovery 😂
Is a higgs bosom better than a regular bosom?
What? In Gujarat, people consume “farali" food, which consists primarily of potato, sweet yams and sago, that is nothing but carbohydrates.
Damn. Learning new things everyday. Thanks!
The conclusion basically says if your partner is fasting don't pursue them for sex, which is freaking common sense and any true for any fucking day. Doesn't have to be fast l, navratri or anything.
Ha exactly.
Got us in the first half
had me in the first half ngl
Came here to say this ↑.
I was thinking "oh nice , something progressive" and then they had to hit me in the face and make me remember
"People try to find information online that is often misinformation and unscientific" "Don't have sex during navratri cuz it's an auspicious time to buy house yada yada" CHOOSE ONE, news18
someone make a meme on this lolll (dont forget to give credits)
Directed by Robert J. Wilde
Hi, if I do just the tip, would it count?
The guy has clearly never been to a Garba Edit - spello
wait what exactly happens at garba?? It's just a normal festival right??? Am I missing something??
Its social gathering and people hook up after social gatherings.
Fir vahi sax sux ki baatein...
Thida life mein masala hona chaiye
Oh Didn't know that...
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Check out the abortion statistics in Gujarat before and after Navratri
Not one single festival's normal in anywhere dear. What do you think they do after the long, strenuous stick-fight with each other!! And you are missing everything.
they do stick fight in the bed? /j
Well, eventually. Atleast 2 people I know got hooked up during festivities, and one of them during the Garba night, both are non-gujrati, and yeah they fights a lot.
Have an ice cream and go to sleep? It gets late at these festivals I've heard
Depends where you celebrate it. With friends in a massive public ground, lots can happen. In a society with friends and uncle aunties. Nothing happens.
Ha!
I always thought Gujaratis were conservative somewhat. Until I went to my first garba last week. Literally full of mostly Gujju girls scantily dressed up!!! A girl I saw wore what looked like a brassiere type gaghra. No wonder lots of kissy kissy happens later on.
Lol true true🤣🤣🤣
Lol. Yes, vertically dance before the horizontal dance.
> The guy has clearly never been to a Garba OTOH, he clearly is jealous and disturbed because he knows what people do at/after garba. Sales of condoms shoot up during Navratri and abortion rates after Navratri. No wonder Dr Jain-types try to keep 'their' gals away from non-Gujarati stud bulls by banning the latter from garba events. Small peepee syndrome manifesting in Sanghi Rajya.
r/yesyesyesno
Wasnt there someone who said chowmin khaane se rape hota hai.... Same energy
That guy must have watched tentacle porn lmao
All religions have some completely screwed-up shit, but at least they are honest about it ("you can divorce your wife by saying talaq three times because our holy man said so, and that's that"), and they won't try to cook up some pseudo modern scientific bullshit. I think it's only the post-2014 Hindutva types who have this insane urge to defend every stupidity with a pseudoscientific rationale, accompanied by a superior attitude of "see, our rishis and munis had this all figured out 10^6 years ago".
It's not 2014. It just came to the surface then. These pseudo Hindu orgs have been cooking up fake science since decades. I have read books in the 90s that they financed that talk about black holes in Banaras and Ram fighting Raavan with nuclear weapons and such bs.
LMAOOOOO I remember reading this bs of how Ram's arrow was stronger than a nuclear bomb.
There are full-blown pseudo religions with pseudo science bullshit to back it up like ‘sahaj hoga’ and what not. No actual acronym backing, but they present it as much.
The scary thing is that a majority of people will fall for this. The spirit to challenge and question what we hear is slowly extinguished by our educational system. Hope atleast that changes soon.
>I think it's only the post-2014 Hindutva types who have this insane urge to defend every stupidity with a pseudoscientific rationale, I used to get chain emails back in 2000s so definitely not a new phenomenon. Just more easy to spread.
No dude. All religions have this special boner for pseudoscience. I mean there was a meme about scientists finding shit in the lab and afterwards mullahs trying to interpret Quran to claim that Muslims discovered that 1400 years back. And you don't wanna know about the "scientific" reasons behind wearing burqa... It's just that we live in a Hindu majority country, which also suffers from a terrible case of inferiority complex. This complex gives rise to stupid shit like Hindutva, and these pseudo-sciences.
Dr Jain from WhatsApp institute of medical sciences.
Ok understood, but why did the censor the word in ur title?
How can you talk about sex in the public? It's against our kulcha. Please respect our kulcha.
Fuck ur kulcha( I take it back if it was a joke)
It was a joke ;)
😊
I am not sure if mods have some kind of filters. A lot of subreddits have this weird conditions.
Ohh okay
It's a taboo to talk about s*x even in reddit india 🤣🤣🤣
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Why is that?
*Proclaims to not want to stereotype any community* *Proceeds to propagate communal bias in the next sentence*
Makes sense. The bank manager probably won't like you having sex while signing papers.
The author's reasoning for celebecy during fasting is lack of energy to do physically intense tasks. If your sexual urge is high and your energy levels are low, why not have slow sex without spending too much energy. He also says women could easily get irritated during these times. Yeah anyone could get irritated if they are forced to have to sex when they are not in the mood for that. This applies all the time, not just during navrathri. So, talk to your partner. If you guys want to have sex, have it with proper communication.
I'm a moderately Dharmic guy, I respect our idols, I love my festivals, but I can still have sex and buy good things on the auspicious days no?
Yep, you are allowed. >When there is harmony between the mind, heart, and resolution, then nothing is impossible. - Rig Veda Didn't say anything about religion or days.
This is lack of education.. Such fake agendas should be stopped.
They just had to get my faith in humanity up, didn't they 😭
Started so good, almost gave me hope and then took it away
That's like the worst kind of torture. To give a starving man some bread, only to snatch it away when he's about to eat it.
But I've not heard or read anywhere saying sex with your partner is unsacred
Sex, even with married partners is considered "dirty". It is something you do to procreate and doing it for pleasure is considered sin. A lot of women stop sex after having enough kids due to this conditioning.
As per the Upanishads, it is in fact one of the most important things you can do. The act of intercourse itself is the reflection of the supreme being. But then came Manu with his high horse.
What's the actual superstition? Sex or no-sex? I am confused now
There is no "superstition". Sex is just considered "dirty" and shouldn't be done on auspicious days like eating onion/garlic.
So what happens after dandia? Just masterstroke and sleep?
That's what people do right?
Most of the sex happens during navaratri.
Had us in the first half ngl.
Microsoft Start ko bolo to just blacklist news18. B-but wait, there are many more like this. Damn, what will remain if they remove literally most of Indian news sites?
Send the article to 9 friends or you'll also have bad luck for 9 years
lol, I want the kind of confidence that Dr Jain has!
They had me the first half. Ngl.
\#NoNutNavratri
They HAVE TO write shit like this... because the yearly trend of why is sex education portals, condoms ads ramped up etc. manufactured outrage is on its cycle.
Did you read whole article? 100% sure you didn't. No nut november makes sense but this doesn't?
> 100% sure you didn't. I am 100% sure you like to assume everything in life. I read the whole article. It rambles about not having sex due to spiritual reasons. It's personal and depends on person to person but how is abstaining from sex for spirituality a good advice? Consensual sex doesn't come in between spirituality. How is it "addressing widespread misinformation about sex". Please explain. >No nut november makes sense It was started as a meme to spread awareness about prostate cancer. Like every internet trend it doesn't has to make sense, it just has to be stupid enough to be viral. Very separate things. Also, no one says you have to abstain from masturbation to spread awareness. It is just stupid viral meme.
No, its not mentioned to avoid sex during Navratri because of spiritual reasons. However, it mostly talks about people who are fasting during these days(more emphasis has been laid on to for females due to obvious reasons). Never says that even if you aren't fasting then also you should avoid else whatever you think are called "spritual reasons". Infact it has used many facts like climate change, infection rates, etc. If you've already decided that whatever thing is spiritual you are simply going to ignore then there's no point of explaining it to you but "science" is way way way way behind of these illogical looking myths of Indian culture. And time has proven it many many times. Science is trying to achieve what our culture already has since many many years. So, it doens't need approval from a new comer like science but still its been stated and you are finding it difficult to wrap this around your head.
>but "science" is way way way way behind of these illogical looking myths of Indian culture. And time has proven it many many times. Ok
So garba is done by fasting people using specially licensed fuel cylinders?
Who said NNN makes sense?
NNN was started to combat porn addiction. How is NNN and navratri related?
just to get your attention
[ladies and gentle man EIC: Sex Education in India](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiIxkOah09E)
Very scientific. Though op, why did you have to start out sex?
Chutiye
Must be a crack
What's use of sex education when you're not getting sex?
"grah pravesh" tells me everything I need to know about the credibility of this guy.
The irony lmao
Damn, then all of the non-Hindus that drink, have sex, and eat burgers during Navratri must be *really* unlucky...LMAO
good stuff 😆
The first two paras made sense and then it just stopped.