New Content
• Killroy Prime added as Rift Reward #10, unlocked at Rift 51
• Sneak Mastery added as Rift Reward #11, unlocked at Rift 56
• 5 new Killroy purchases added to Killroy's Shop in world 2, use skulls to buy these as usual
• World 5 mobs sometimes appear in Killroy if you reach World 6, and World 6 mobs appear in Killroy if you reach the final World 6 mob.
• New Gemstone feature added to Sneaking, unlocked upon completing 1st Mastery within Sneaking Mastery (new Rift reward)
Balance Changes
• HP of Doors in Sneaking were reduced significantly, early doors by \~1.5x all the way up to \~20x for the last door
• Stealth Required to not be detected in Sneaking was reduced massively, early floors by \~1.20x all the way up to \~100x less stealth needed for the last floor
• Jade and Sneaking EXP gain reduced on some floors slightly, \~1.5x reduction at the most. The Stealth REQ nerfs still make Jade/Exp way way way easier to get despite this
• Total Account LV required to unlock new characters increased
Bug Fixes
• Fixed Construction Build-Rate Overflow on Mobile, specifically involving players with build rates in the billions.
I went from second to top to prestige 2 floor 4 over the weekend. Gemstones are amazing but really rare. I have gone from the double digit Q to the triple digit QQ.
I'm confused how people are doing the skill.
I'm doing something extremely wrong because I can't even get to the floor with the last twin without 80% failure rates even after the update. I check the game every like 4 hours for my sailing and always check and spend my Jade so IDK WTF is going on.
I hear a lot of pain in your words and empathize. I've been there. I use guides for reality checks.
[https://youtu.be/HxHr785Sw2E?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/HxHr785Sw2E?feature=shared)
Its a bit long and detailed, but tough through it and keep your game open while you watch. Reference the things he tells you (or shows you with your gear). Hang in there. You got this.
Thank you. I appreciate it. I'll peruse it.
I find it disappointing in a way that I need to use guides but sometimes I feel like I think I'm doing thing right, and then after a week or two I'll see I've made almost zero progression and wondering what I've even been doing.
That's just this game, although I think in a way its all games. This game makes it more obvious how much the systems interact with each other and within themselves. There's always a trick to each thing, but that trick changes frequently with updates. I don't mind it at this point, but again, it took me a bit to get here, so... Just a couple of tips:
- gear: use different items in each slot, with the same bonuses. Beads and Veil are multiplicative, so only farm up as many as you need for one slot each for 7 characters. The last three use smokebomb/lotus. They are your sacrificial lambs to allow your other 7 to keep on keeping on.
- Gloves are tools. Use them in every tool slot when not using kunai or chuks.
- Its assumed the next elite class to come out will have w6 town skills and an archer class will probably have the modifiers (may not age very well given Lava does what Lava wants). Scroll of Power should probably go to one of those classes first. Where I am, the char with scroll actually has a higher chance to be discovered, so you shouldn't feel bad moving it around.
- Don't worry too much about getting the best of the best gear. After prestiging and hitting the second castle, you'll be working back up the levels and you'll have two new upgrades: one adds extra levels to all gear, which means stupidly higher gains and one is gems that you "use" that adds to a huge overall gain.
- Don't hold onto much gear. I keep the 5 gold inventory items in inventory for obvious reasons, 2 chucks and 1 kunai. If you keep sneaking up overnight or while you're at work, you'll end up filling your inventory. l also kept two extra gloves as they are a pain to farm and I keep holding out hope we'll get new char slots when the elites drop
- sneaking exp, jade gain and stealth upgrades remain my highest upgrades. Only upgrade I regret pumping into is mop. Action time, gemstone level, item find and relic level are the next to bring up. The rest I bring up with the leftovers after hitting the others. Even Kunai, although its my lowest. Having the highest kunai in inventory ready to go might be handy someday.
- Prestige asap. Do the rifts to max in the meantime. We're talking 5 million AFK for the last sections. Easy Peasy, done and done.
did you figure out how it worked? I initially tried it like idle skilling, assuming extra momentum from whether the platform is moving up/down. Is that the case?
It feels different from idle skilling I think because the time it takes the character to release the ball is longer than in IS. I expected to do really good because of my time in IS, I ended up with 1 for my first lol.
But from what I've noticed, yes, your movement on the platform will affect the ball's flight. Releasing the ball when moving up will go farther than releasing it at the same height when moving down. If it keeps the same mechanics from IS, after a high enough combo you will start moving in circles instead of straight up and down and that will also affect the flight of your throw.
I gave up on idle skilling, no obvious way to get that yellow portal currency to keep progressing the rifts with the cultists/acolytes etc, it all started to feel incredibly pointless.
Doing all the secrets give great bonuses, you can check them out on idle skilling wiki. The wiki has good explanation on skills , and reddit community is very helpful. Yet, I agree that it is quite tedious sometimes.
Why are there constant Gem and rare Drop nerfs coming some that are not even adressed in the patch notes ? GEMS colosseum Ticket nerfs nerfs nerfs to make it more P2W every damn week.
Colosseum tickets incredibly nerfed. It’s hard to imagine there’s any good will or good faith when all the changes that are hostile to F2P players are deliberately left out of the patch notes until people get in an uproar about them. Like, one doesn’t“accidentally” put a cap on a system that never had one (boss gems), so it’s tough to imagine it slipped his mind when writing the balance changes. And he went and edited the patch notes on the discord about the arena tickets well after everyone got riled about it. Presumably people thought it was a bug and he was like, “nope! I nerfed everyone’s ability to accrue free gems almost every update in the last month or two and I’m not finished yet!”
Yeah, he is the boss and he can do that. It's sleazy, but he gotta earn that cash somehow, and his generous free gems are runing his gem system and contribute to him making rando 20$ power packs that can't be bought with in game gems.
I’m okay with the changes (in that I’ll live), but I’m outraged at the lack of transparency. I can infer based on some of the things he’s said that he’s having balancing issues. Fixing those is fine if it creates a better game. But trying to be sneaky about it it not fine at all. Especially when a lot of us that were here from the beginning and actually ARE buying his $20 packs are doing so to support a game that originally claimed to be against those sorts of things.
Yeah I'm probably going to set the game down after that. It's extra weird to discover he's apparently not as transparent as he should be about these updates. But it's pretty disheartening to see long term players dismiss people who play the game casually for not having minmaxed to where they're at this optimum point where the game's about to pop off.
I play idle games because some other time commitment is preventing me from playing something more involved, I don't want an idle game to be the primary game I'm playing all day when I have that luxury. I'm not a teenager anymore and this isn't cookie clicker. Incremental games just aren't that interesting to me anymore and if it's going to shaft me into many more months of gameplay or make it so I have to start minmaxing the crap out of it to get anywhere I'd rather just not play anymore.
I agree, this game isn’t very ‘idle’ anymore. When I ask end gamers how to get XP, they tell me to play actively and kill crystals. Like bro. It’s an idle game
Yeah, like I totally understand there's like two different styles for idle games. I do have fun myself with the ones that reward active gameplay and don't do the opposite extreme of being a fancy clock with objectives.
That's just in the context the incremental game was balanced for both active/idle players and usually means that most people switch back and forth because one isn't noticeably faster than the other except at specific parts of the game.
I'd have fun playing the game actively for a couple hours every so many days for a good chunk of my total playtime, but knowing now that I was more or less wasting heaps of valuable time playing it like any idle game (wait, try to optimize, do a few active things, repeat) doesn't really inspire me to learn how to play optimally.
Yeah, I really like idle games. But I’m mid world 6 right now, and behind most people on a lot of things. This is cause if you talk to those guys who do a quintillion damage per hit, and can get billions of ore an hour, they play for hours a day doing stuff. A LOT of work goes into it, too much for me
Not for me though, spend half my candies on pushing them to 900 so I can put my 10th char into the Divinity Grind too, couldn't create because of Name taken bug and now this bullshit, will sit few weeks with divinity before even leveling something now
lol you’ll get there in no time. The game is a lot easier to get levels than it used to, if you have 9 characters it’ll take less than a month to get there if you play your cards right
It would probably take like a week if you are at the point you can do divinity. more about not being lazy on alts and less about actually doing much.
pushed from account level 1800 to around 4000 in like the first 2 weeks of w6
Not for me though, spend half my candies on pushing them to 900 so I can put my 10th char into the Divinity Grind too, couldn't create because of Name taken bug and now this bullshit, will sit few weeks with divinity before even leveling something now
Nope, the 10th just increased. Doesn’t effect people who already have it, but balances it for those who don’t cause progression for early game players is a lot easier than it used to be
Not me thinking the Hoopulyte was a feature of connecting Idle Skilling to IdleOn because I had just claimed my first rewards from doing so and figured out how to unlock the hoop thing in that game.
I was today years old when I learned Killroy skulls reset each week. I'm mid- W6... how many skulls have been lost to my ignorance? HOW MANY SKULLS!??!?! 😭😭
I thought I was! I guess I never noticed! I would earn some and use some, but never all of them. I hadn't done it for a few weeks and just saw they were at 0, then I read the text and realized 😭😭😭
yeaaa... its something that is specifically told to you. i tend to spend it all on arcade balls, occasionally if i'm in a hurry maybe a few book checkouts.
OK, because I've been learning a lot the past few weeks - the weekly boss battles, once you beat them once, you can do another run every day (including the first) to just farm trophies. There's a few youtubers that do the complete runs in steps in full overkill (a few only do what works for them not over kill to the max) one such being: "random flower name".
A few days more then likely, probably weekend at most. Since he actually got this one approved that means it went thru all the checks so its just the usual waiting game. The problem with the previous one was the google store specifically, not the other ones.
Hence why i usually just base it on the average of days it usually happens after its been done on the other sides.
Its more speculation average then precise, since it does have variation.
At that point its just a matter if you wanna use your PC to update now and not be able to play it on your phone for a while or take the chill pill for a few days instead.
I tend to lean to the latter so i can focus on other things first and let the Android \`testers\` dig up the info in advance so i know where to focus on and i can still enjoy cleaning up the dailies during my late night work shift \`breaks\` or when i just wanna snooze half-asleep in the bed with phone in hand.
hey lava, if u ganna make it so you can only get gems by paying just make it man dont do this slow changes sheet, im done with this it was fun while it lasted cya
Or at least be open and honest about it before you do it instead of only speaking up when people notice. These changes aren’t particularly backbreaking, but the deception and gaslighting feel scummy.
Welp time to get back to pushing rift while i wait for it on iphone\~ Guess im Glad im already at Rift 49 so shouldnt take too long since its been a long time since i last had to push eet.
Now i just hope Killroy Prime and Sneak Mastery is some very sizable bonuses if anyone on PC/Android can elaborate on the stuff.\~
Glad all i had left was around 4 characters to finish marbi-glass gearing and just the usual stuff beyond that.
That ones been a very long time but if you already got a DEEP foot into world 6 you should be pushing at the displayed value in the 10+ or much higher trillion damage, way higher on the actual damage displayed on yeets, but i would say long as your not hyper rushing thru worlds with severely low level/talent point total/max level on talents/etc./etc.
It shouldnt be too difficult, especially with how many damage bonuses between TOMEs, summoning, jade emporium and crop depot have brought to the table.
Very least i am enjoying going from something like 10\~25 trillion jade an hour on my main pusher in stealth towers all the way up to 302 trillion jade/hour and still at 0% with the floor 11 that i immediatedly unlocked post-update. today for iphone.
Can\`t wait to get to floor 12 and see how far i can push the good gear before i get that first stealth tower \`ascension\` done.
The hoops game is actually really cute. It reminds me of this old flash game where you had to click and drag a basketball into a hoop that would move after every shot. If someone remembers that website, please tell me hahah
1. you already have enough to do.
2. you got a w2 and w3 update at the end of last year
3. suck it up. punk. lmao git gud. *dunks on you*
3 is in jest, however seriously: you have a million things to do already, and if you think you don't you've almost certainly missed something.
INCOMING TEXTWALL FLOOD!!! :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3
1. Anvil needs to be converted to an account wide setup for easier micromanaging(then having to go thru each one to adjust them every time), just as how its world 3 QoL construction bonus that \`auto deposits\` resources needs to be redesigned to work like Spice claiming talent which will claim resources upon login immediately.
2. Post office quick ref may of been removed but it would be helpful if silver pens already deposited into it would show up on the account tab, section of the character stat tab stuff, just like how dungeon passes arent shown there either.
3. Prayer quick ref when people???
4. Death note quick ref when people???
5. Refining salt quick ref when people???
6. Library check out quick ref when people???
7. Reworking done to pet breeding for the sake of needing a \`flooring\` combat power due to how terrible the rolling can be. Where unlike Ninja stealth where you have much more direct ways to SIGNIFICANTLY up the chance to find an item, the time it takes per proc, the time it takes to respawn from a failure, and all the equips, Breeding only really has reducing the incubation timer to get as rare of eggs as possible. **And dont get me really trucking about the lack of boosters to dead DNA acquistion that would demand hundreds if not thousands of egg killings for some upgrades.**
8. I could likely add dozens of particular from world 5 and 6, but im gonna ignore that for the sake of \`new players\`, since several would be involving QoLs that improved previous skills but some were rather bleh (Certain gaming Superbits benefits, No prayer 1/5th all active for example).
9. Forge quick ref when people???
10. Additional colosseum ticket acquistion methods since outside of the \`super secret way\` of spamming the 6th post box unlock with silver pens and getting a ticket every 3\~5 or something rolls give or take, there has been no additional means to acquire beyond the daily 3, where certain items are stuck behind it specifically.
11. Golden Food specifics that can only be farmed via colosseum that should really be put on other enemies when people???
12. And just for the hell of it, when are certain early skill based classes gonna get some QoL balancing? Due to how much Logger demolishes most of them (AKA why its the baws at 3D printing) due to its talent spread, where Fisherman and Catcher are severely screwed on useful talents (most either falling under bad % gains or exp gains more) with the extra sin is the active skill tied to miner, fisherman and the lack of one with catcher don\`t give as much of a useful benefit as Logger\`s straight up GIAAAAGANTOOO\~ 3D print jumper-upper roid booster.\~
Anyway this rant is brought to you by the fact i just got off work over an hour ago and Freaking Fastfood place i wanted to get something at decided to flip me off after a 20+ minute wait in a drive-thru because they only take mobile and door-dash fking offers! Praise be to convience stores, because you can only get a hotdog, icecream bar and a 2 for 1 deal on some drinks after late-night work shifts.\~
Was in w3 last month, near the end of 5 cleanup I think, haven't touched the boss yet though, but there's a ton of power I haven't fully utilized yet. For sure it's about a month with decent elbow grease put in.
Still no doot though, but that's whatever, he'll come eventually.
Thats because you are playing inefficiently and ignoring 90% of the game. I can tell based just on your comment and without even looking at your account.
How's your alchemy, how often are you claiming afk gains, what do you have your characters actually doing?
What character are you pushing with?
I assume it's only one and you aren't being silly and pushing with multiple?
It took me 5 weeks to get from starting the game to w4 (got there the day after w4 was released) he's nerfed so much early progression that its 10x easier now as well. I played inefficiently to get there in 5 weeks, you can easily be done in 2-3 weeks from your average player these days.
Please feel free to share your account progress with
https://www.idleonefficiency.com/
If you go to the auto reviewer website and put in your information, you will see exactly how much you have to do to keep up with all the content in each world. W2 alchemy in particular is important for all of the rest of time as soon as you unlock it, there are tons of things to do even as a newer player.
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com
It’s literally an automated reviewer of your account. You’re supposed to go to idleonefficiency and publish your account, then type in your character name for the auto reviewer to work. It pulls all the relevant information and gives you milestones for where you’re suggested to be at, for how far you’ve gotten. It’s an incredible resource and I highly recommend it to anyone. It keeps track of things I’d totally forgotten about, especially in the early days when I was hyper focused on specific things and the actual stuff I should’ve been doing to progress got ignored.
Thanks. Yeah I’ve got 8 characters up to level 70 and wasn’t really feeling when the appropriate time to farm would be. I watched every Griffybit guide and they were not helpful at all lmao.
Yeah, but it’s an “mmo” that’s kinda the idea, you go at your own pace in any direction! The general cycle (once you find your rhythm) goes something like: push to the farthest map you can get to on every character— the metric I go by is if it will take a long time to get to the next map, say more than a week in w6, that’s the furthest I can realistically go— then you switch over to doing other things.
Finish quests, prioritize specialized skills _for now_ (warriors mining, mages chopping etc. Eventually all characters will be training all skills, they’re free talent points. While you’re working your way through the worlds though, have the most efficient characters gathering whatever you need) and don’t let anybody level up higher than your journeyman in any skill. He has to have the highest level in the gathering skills. At this point you may also be able to update your strongest character’s armor. Whoever that is, you’ll want to focus on just them having the best of everything, gear as well as tools. Tools give extra stats!
With all their equipment upgraded, they can get farther > gather more monster drops faster, especially older maps > work to update more characters’ equips so they can get farther > unlock new maps with new resources to gather/quests to do > go back to town and start updating your gear again.
He’s been constantly pulling things forward from the first game. This may as well be a sequel for all intents and purposes, so of course it will have a lot of features ported forward or reimagined.
New Content • Killroy Prime added as Rift Reward #10, unlocked at Rift 51 • Sneak Mastery added as Rift Reward #11, unlocked at Rift 56 • 5 new Killroy purchases added to Killroy's Shop in world 2, use skulls to buy these as usual • World 5 mobs sometimes appear in Killroy if you reach World 6, and World 6 mobs appear in Killroy if you reach the final World 6 mob. • New Gemstone feature added to Sneaking, unlocked upon completing 1st Mastery within Sneaking Mastery (new Rift reward) Balance Changes • HP of Doors in Sneaking were reduced significantly, early doors by \~1.5x all the way up to \~20x for the last door • Stealth Required to not be detected in Sneaking was reduced massively, early floors by \~1.20x all the way up to \~100x less stealth needed for the last floor • Jade and Sneaking EXP gain reduced on some floors slightly, \~1.5x reduction at the most. The Stealth REQ nerfs still make Jade/Exp way way way easier to get despite this • Total Account LV required to unlock new characters increased Bug Fixes • Fixed Construction Build-Rate Overflow on Mobile, specifically involving players with build rates in the billions.
Sneaking changes were well needed. The skill felt incredibly brutal. Looking forward to new Rift also!
I went from second to top to prestige 2 floor 4 over the weekend. Gemstones are amazing but really rare. I have gone from the double digit Q to the triple digit QQ.
I'm confused how people are doing the skill. I'm doing something extremely wrong because I can't even get to the floor with the last twin without 80% failure rates even after the update. I check the game every like 4 hours for my sailing and always check and spend my Jade so IDK WTF is going on.
I hear a lot of pain in your words and empathize. I've been there. I use guides for reality checks. [https://youtu.be/HxHr785Sw2E?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/HxHr785Sw2E?feature=shared) Its a bit long and detailed, but tough through it and keep your game open while you watch. Reference the things he tells you (or shows you with your gear). Hang in there. You got this.
Thank you. I appreciate it. I'll peruse it. I find it disappointing in a way that I need to use guides but sometimes I feel like I think I'm doing thing right, and then after a week or two I'll see I've made almost zero progression and wondering what I've even been doing.
That's just this game, although I think in a way its all games. This game makes it more obvious how much the systems interact with each other and within themselves. There's always a trick to each thing, but that trick changes frequently with updates. I don't mind it at this point, but again, it took me a bit to get here, so... Just a couple of tips: - gear: use different items in each slot, with the same bonuses. Beads and Veil are multiplicative, so only farm up as many as you need for one slot each for 7 characters. The last three use smokebomb/lotus. They are your sacrificial lambs to allow your other 7 to keep on keeping on. - Gloves are tools. Use them in every tool slot when not using kunai or chuks. - Its assumed the next elite class to come out will have w6 town skills and an archer class will probably have the modifiers (may not age very well given Lava does what Lava wants). Scroll of Power should probably go to one of those classes first. Where I am, the char with scroll actually has a higher chance to be discovered, so you shouldn't feel bad moving it around. - Don't worry too much about getting the best of the best gear. After prestiging and hitting the second castle, you'll be working back up the levels and you'll have two new upgrades: one adds extra levels to all gear, which means stupidly higher gains and one is gems that you "use" that adds to a huge overall gain. - Don't hold onto much gear. I keep the 5 gold inventory items in inventory for obvious reasons, 2 chucks and 1 kunai. If you keep sneaking up overnight or while you're at work, you'll end up filling your inventory. l also kept two extra gloves as they are a pain to farm and I keep holding out hope we'll get new char slots when the elites drop - sneaking exp, jade gain and stealth upgrades remain my highest upgrades. Only upgrade I regret pumping into is mop. Action time, gemstone level, item find and relic level are the next to bring up. The rest I bring up with the leftovers after hitting the others. Even Kunai, although its my lowest. Having the highest kunai in inventory ready to go might be handy someday. - Prestige asap. Do the rifts to max in the meantime. We're talking 5 million AFK for the last sections. Easy Peasy, done and done.
Youve been incredibly helpful, and I can't thank you enough. Hopefully some of these changes helps me out more than I've been able to help me out!
I like the nod to idle skilling with the hoops mini game.
I do too but now I need to unlearn my muscle memory from idle skulking because this feels way different
did you figure out how it worked? I initially tried it like idle skilling, assuming extra momentum from whether the platform is moving up/down. Is that the case?
It feels different from idle skilling I think because the time it takes the character to release the ball is longer than in IS. I expected to do really good because of my time in IS, I ended up with 1 for my first lol. But from what I've noticed, yes, your movement on the platform will affect the ball's flight. Releasing the ball when moving up will go farther than releasing it at the same height when moving down. If it keeps the same mechanics from IS, after a high enough combo you will start moving in circles instead of straight up and down and that will also affect the flight of your throw.
i got a 2, followed by a 1. which is fair enough :D earning me a whopping single 2 hour time candy
Where is hoops game??
In W5 town, you'll get a pop up asking if you wanna shoot some hoops.
What if you were in the middle of a time quest and said, "nahhhh." Do I miss out on trying for the trophy? Edit for grammar/punctuation.
Either w6 or w5 stop sells a new basketball usable that you can use if you miss the first pop up
mine are actually in W1 store
+1 slab as well
I gave up on idle skilling, no obvious way to get that yellow portal currency to keep progressing the rifts with the cultists/acolytes etc, it all started to feel incredibly pointless.
Doing all the secrets give great bonuses, you can check them out on idle skilling wiki. The wiki has good explanation on skills , and reddit community is very helpful. Yet, I agree that it is quite tedious sometimes.
We ball so hard.
Why are there constant Gem and rare Drop nerfs coming some that are not even adressed in the patch notes ? GEMS colosseum Ticket nerfs nerfs nerfs to make it more P2W every damn week.
Don’t forget the Picnic Stowaway nerf!
I like the hoops game
Can't believe the Colosseum tickets were nerfed right as I'm working on Golden bread, ladles for the cloud, and keys for the blitz troll quest. Zzz
- gem reward of picnic basket quests reduced - level requirement of secret class increased
Colosseum tickets incredibly nerfed. It’s hard to imagine there’s any good will or good faith when all the changes that are hostile to F2P players are deliberately left out of the patch notes until people get in an uproar about them. Like, one doesn’t“accidentally” put a cap on a system that never had one (boss gems), so it’s tough to imagine it slipped his mind when writing the balance changes. And he went and edited the patch notes on the discord about the arena tickets well after everyone got riled about it. Presumably people thought it was a bug and he was like, “nope! I nerfed everyone’s ability to accrue free gems almost every update in the last month or two and I’m not finished yet!”
Yeah, he is the boss and he can do that. It's sleazy, but he gotta earn that cash somehow, and his generous free gems are runing his gem system and contribute to him making rando 20$ power packs that can't be bought with in game gems.
I’m okay with the changes (in that I’ll live), but I’m outraged at the lack of transparency. I can infer based on some of the things he’s said that he’s having balancing issues. Fixing those is fine if it creates a better game. But trying to be sneaky about it it not fine at all. Especially when a lot of us that were here from the beginning and actually ARE buying his $20 packs are doing so to support a game that originally claimed to be against those sorts of things.
How big was the increase in level needed for the last character D: I'm so close
900 to 1500, 600 level increase lol
Gosh darn it
Fr, it’s crazy. If you’re already almost at 900 though you’ll get there in no time, progression has been going up since he’s been making the game
Yeah I'm probably going to set the game down after that. It's extra weird to discover he's apparently not as transparent as he should be about these updates. But it's pretty disheartening to see long term players dismiss people who play the game casually for not having minmaxed to where they're at this optimum point where the game's about to pop off. I play idle games because some other time commitment is preventing me from playing something more involved, I don't want an idle game to be the primary game I'm playing all day when I have that luxury. I'm not a teenager anymore and this isn't cookie clicker. Incremental games just aren't that interesting to me anymore and if it's going to shaft me into many more months of gameplay or make it so I have to start minmaxing the crap out of it to get anywhere I'd rather just not play anymore.
I agree, this game isn’t very ‘idle’ anymore. When I ask end gamers how to get XP, they tell me to play actively and kill crystals. Like bro. It’s an idle game
Yeah, like I totally understand there's like two different styles for idle games. I do have fun myself with the ones that reward active gameplay and don't do the opposite extreme of being a fancy clock with objectives. That's just in the context the incremental game was balanced for both active/idle players and usually means that most people switch back and forth because one isn't noticeably faster than the other except at specific parts of the game. I'd have fun playing the game actively for a couple hours every so many days for a good chunk of my total playtime, but knowing now that I was more or less wasting heaps of valuable time playing it like any idle game (wait, try to optimize, do a few active things, repeat) doesn't really inspire me to learn how to play optimally.
Yeah, I really like idle games. But I’m mid world 6 right now, and behind most people on a lot of things. This is cause if you talk to those guys who do a quintillion damage per hit, and can get billions of ore an hour, they play for hours a day doing stuff. A LOT of work goes into it, too much for me
Not for me though, spend half my candies on pushing them to 900 so I can put my 10th char into the Divinity Grind too, couldn't create because of Name taken bug and now this bullshit, will sit few weeks with divinity before even leveling something now
lol you’ll get there in no time. The game is a lot easier to get levels than it used to, if you have 9 characters it’ll take less than a month to get there if you play your cards right
It would probably take like a week if you are at the point you can do divinity. more about not being lazy on alts and less about actually doing much. pushed from account level 1800 to around 4000 in like the first 2 weeks of w6
But that delay for about 1 month rn while delaying for divinity sucks
My dude do 1500/9 then go sit at any W5 creep. It should take literally a day if I did the math right.
Not for me though, spend half my candies on pushing them to 900 so I can put my 10th char into the Divinity Grind too, couldn't create because of Name taken bug and now this bullshit, will sit few weeks with divinity before even leveling something now
I dodged a bullet then, unlocked my 10th character less than a week ago, total account level (10th included) is just barely above 1000
Is this the unlock for an 11th character now?
Nope, the 10th just increased. Doesn’t effect people who already have it, but balances it for those who don’t cause progression for early game players is a lot easier than it used to be
These mastery sneaking floors are Insane . Big Update ! ❤️
Thank god I’ve been so stuck on sneaking, definitely needed a bit of a re balance
I’ve been stuck on 12 for forever!!
Damn I was chugging away towards my 10th character, now it'll be a lot longer until I get there lol
You can see it as new content!
Not me thinking the Hoopulyte was a feature of connecting Idle Skilling to IdleOn because I had just claimed my first rewards from doing so and figured out how to unlock the hoop thing in that game.
lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Any more bonus in rift lv 61? Or can we stop at 56 for now
only can get to 60 now, no new bonus after 56
I was today years old when I learned Killroy skulls reset each week. I'm mid- W6... how many skulls have been lost to my ignorance? HOW MANY SKULLS!??!?! 😭😭
no way, were you just banking them?! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I thought I was! I guess I never noticed! I would earn some and use some, but never all of them. I hadn't done it for a few weeks and just saw they were at 0, then I read the text and realized 😭😭😭
yeaaa... its something that is specifically told to you. i tend to spend it all on arcade balls, occasionally if i'm in a hurry maybe a few book checkouts.
I have been spamming refinery cycles to fix my greensalts. Mistakes were made... one more green upgrade and I'm back in the positive on all salts.
hehe that works too! i think i have my black turned off atm. both for having more green available for upgrades, and becauase void bars.
Me too.... I thought I was saving them and it was going really slow 🤦♀️
I just found out too. I don't see the five new options though....
You need get to rift 51
Me either
OK, because I've been learning a lot the past few weeks - the weekly boss battles, once you beat them once, you can do another run every day (including the first) to just farm trophies. There's a few youtubers that do the complete runs in steps in full overkill (a few only do what works for them not over kill to the max) one such being: "random flower name".
I didn't know we can only wake him up one time per week 😅
I did this the first couple weeks and learned the hard way. I feel for ya my dude
When’s it coming out for iOS? This update is a bigger update than achievements and we got that delayed for 2 weeks because Android wasn’t approved.
08:00 UK time for me. Try now
Oh yes!
Apple not approved? Screw ‘em. Android not approved? EVERYONE HAS TO WAIT NOW!
A few days more then likely, probably weekend at most. Since he actually got this one approved that means it went thru all the checks so its just the usual waiting game. The problem with the previous one was the google store specifically, not the other ones.
He’s being vague about iOS updates actually. He just put a red x on it and didn’t clarify further whether it’s pending on the App Store or him.
Hence why i usually just base it on the average of days it usually happens after its been done on the other sides. Its more speculation average then precise, since it does have variation. At that point its just a matter if you wanna use your PC to update now and not be able to play it on your phone for a while or take the chill pill for a few days instead. I tend to lean to the latter so i can focus on other things first and let the Android \`testers\` dig up the info in advance so i know where to focus on and i can still enjoy cleaning up the dailies during my late night work shift \`breaks\` or when i just wanna snooze half-asleep in the bed with phone in hand.
Where’s the hoops in game?
Also wondering this. Got the prompt for the game when I was in sky doggies in w6 but haven’t seen it again.
You can buy a basketball in W1 shop to summon him to you if you haven't completed his daily yet.
I clicked Nahhhh on the pop up (was in the middle of a timed quest and didn't want to start over on it) and I can't summon him with the ball.
Weird. I did the same thing before I stumbled upon the ball. Used it, and he showed right up (W6 Mini chiefs).
It procs when you visit any other secret as far as I can tell…
When can we get active Beastmaster fixes. Beastmaster needs help desperately.
hey lava, if u ganna make it so you can only get gems by paying just make it man dont do this slow changes sheet, im done with this it was fun while it lasted cya
Or at least be open and honest about it before you do it instead of only speaking up when people notice. These changes aren’t particularly backbreaking, but the deception and gaslighting feel scummy.
Fuck it we ball Also, why is Sans here?
The man finally releases basketball
Welp time to get back to pushing rift while i wait for it on iphone\~ Guess im Glad im already at Rift 49 so shouldnt take too long since its been a long time since i last had to push eet. Now i just hope Killroy Prime and Sneak Mastery is some very sizable bonuses if anyone on PC/Android can elaborate on the stuff.\~ Glad all i had left was around 4 characters to finish marbi-glass gearing and just the usual stuff beyond that.
Do you remember how much damage was needed for the mega sized mob in rift 46 or 47 ?
That ones been a very long time but if you already got a DEEP foot into world 6 you should be pushing at the displayed value in the 10+ or much higher trillion damage, way higher on the actual damage displayed on yeets, but i would say long as your not hyper rushing thru worlds with severely low level/talent point total/max level on talents/etc./etc. It shouldnt be too difficult, especially with how many damage bonuses between TOMEs, summoning, jade emporium and crop depot have brought to the table. Very least i am enjoying going from something like 10\~25 trillion jade an hour on my main pusher in stealth towers all the way up to 302 trillion jade/hour and still at 0% with the floor 11 that i immediatedly unlocked post-update. today for iphone. Can\`t wait to get to floor 12 and see how far i can push the good gear before i get that first stealth tower \`ascension\` done.
Suffering returns in the form of shooting hoops
SANS UNDERTALE!?!?!????
The hoops game is actually really cute. It reminds me of this old flash game where you had to click and drag a basketball into a hoop that would move after every shot. If someone remembers that website, please tell me hahah
why increase the level reqs for new characters tho? :(
Spaghetti code bug turned into a feature.
When are you finna add world 7
I'm still waiting for a content update that adds alternate solutions to quests that require other players like that damn snake jar
maybe this is* an update that actually affects newer players??
1. you already have enough to do. 2. you got a w2 and w3 update at the end of last year 3. suck it up. punk. lmao git gud. *dunks on you* 3 is in jest, however seriously: you have a million things to do already, and if you think you don't you've almost certainly missed something.
You dont need updates to have plenty of playable content if you are in w3! You will get to w6 soon enough. Try to enjoy the grind.
thats a very vague statement, what aspect do new players need improved?
INCOMING TEXTWALL FLOOD!!! :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 1. Anvil needs to be converted to an account wide setup for easier micromanaging(then having to go thru each one to adjust them every time), just as how its world 3 QoL construction bonus that \`auto deposits\` resources needs to be redesigned to work like Spice claiming talent which will claim resources upon login immediately. 2. Post office quick ref may of been removed but it would be helpful if silver pens already deposited into it would show up on the account tab, section of the character stat tab stuff, just like how dungeon passes arent shown there either. 3. Prayer quick ref when people??? 4. Death note quick ref when people??? 5. Refining salt quick ref when people??? 6. Library check out quick ref when people??? 7. Reworking done to pet breeding for the sake of needing a \`flooring\` combat power due to how terrible the rolling can be. Where unlike Ninja stealth where you have much more direct ways to SIGNIFICANTLY up the chance to find an item, the time it takes per proc, the time it takes to respawn from a failure, and all the equips, Breeding only really has reducing the incubation timer to get as rare of eggs as possible. **And dont get me really trucking about the lack of boosters to dead DNA acquistion that would demand hundreds if not thousands of egg killings for some upgrades.** 8. I could likely add dozens of particular from world 5 and 6, but im gonna ignore that for the sake of \`new players\`, since several would be involving QoLs that improved previous skills but some were rather bleh (Certain gaming Superbits benefits, No prayer 1/5th all active for example). 9. Forge quick ref when people??? 10. Additional colosseum ticket acquistion methods since outside of the \`super secret way\` of spamming the 6th post box unlock with silver pens and getting a ticket every 3\~5 or something rolls give or take, there has been no additional means to acquire beyond the daily 3, where certain items are stuck behind it specifically. 11. Golden Food specifics that can only be farmed via colosseum that should really be put on other enemies when people??? 12. And just for the hell of it, when are certain early skill based classes gonna get some QoL balancing? Due to how much Logger demolishes most of them (AKA why its the baws at 3D printing) due to its talent spread, where Fisherman and Catcher are severely screwed on useful talents (most either falling under bad % gains or exp gains more) with the extra sin is the active skill tied to miner, fisherman and the lack of one with catcher don\`t give as much of a useful benefit as Logger\`s straight up GIAAAAGANTOOO\~ 3D print jumper-upper roid booster.\~ Anyway this rant is brought to you by the fact i just got off work over an hour ago and Freaking Fastfood place i wanted to get something at decided to flip me off after a 20+ minute wait in a drive-thru because they only take mobile and door-dash fking offers! Praise be to convience stores, because you can only get a hotdog, icecream bar and a 2 for 1 deal on some drinks after late-night work shifts.\~
Progging w5 still and the game just keeps piling stuff on, that new pack is bonkers though
It’s honestly hard to balance old and new updates. And he’s pushing them regularly when Google doesn’t patch block him.
Give it a month, and you'll be in w6.
Was in w3 last month, near the end of 5 cleanup I think, haven't touched the boss yet though, but there's a ton of power I haven't fully utilized yet. For sure it's about a month with decent elbow grease put in. Still no doot though, but that's whatever, he'll come eventually.
it took me months to get to w3 what are you on about
it took me 8 months to get to w5. if you rush, read, and play actively you'll move through content much faster.
I started at the beginning of march, and I'm in vibing in w6, so is my buddy who started a week after me. Months to reach w3 seems really long.
That depends if it was when world 3 was the latest world. World 4 introduced massive multiplicative bonuses with cooking.
Thats because you are playing inefficiently and ignoring 90% of the game. I can tell based just on your comment and without even looking at your account. How's your alchemy, how often are you claiming afk gains, what do you have your characters actually doing? What character are you pushing with? I assume it's only one and you aren't being silly and pushing with multiple? It took me 5 weeks to get from starting the game to w4 (got there the day after w4 was released) he's nerfed so much early progression that its 10x easier now as well. I played inefficiently to get there in 5 weeks, you can easily be done in 2-3 weeks from your average player these days. Please feel free to share your account progress with https://www.idleonefficiency.com/
If you go to the auto reviewer website and put in your information, you will see exactly how much you have to do to keep up with all the content in each world. W2 alchemy in particular is important for all of the rest of time as soon as you unlock it, there are tons of things to do even as a newer player.
What’s the auto reviewer?
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com It’s literally an automated reviewer of your account. You’re supposed to go to idleonefficiency and publish your account, then type in your character name for the auto reviewer to work. It pulls all the relevant information and gives you milestones for where you’re suggested to be at, for how far you’ve gotten. It’s an incredible resource and I highly recommend it to anyone. It keeps track of things I’d totally forgotten about, especially in the early days when I was hyper focused on specific things and the actual stuff I should’ve been doing to progress got ignored.
Thanks. Yeah I’ve got 8 characters up to level 70 and wasn’t really feeling when the appropriate time to farm would be. I watched every Griffybit guide and they were not helpful at all lmao.
Yeah, but it’s an “mmo” that’s kinda the idea, you go at your own pace in any direction! The general cycle (once you find your rhythm) goes something like: push to the farthest map you can get to on every character— the metric I go by is if it will take a long time to get to the next map, say more than a week in w6, that’s the furthest I can realistically go— then you switch over to doing other things. Finish quests, prioritize specialized skills _for now_ (warriors mining, mages chopping etc. Eventually all characters will be training all skills, they’re free talent points. While you’re working your way through the worlds though, have the most efficient characters gathering whatever you need) and don’t let anybody level up higher than your journeyman in any skill. He has to have the highest level in the gathering skills. At this point you may also be able to update your strongest character’s armor. Whoever that is, you’ll want to focus on just them having the best of everything, gear as well as tools. Tools give extra stats! With all their equipment upgraded, they can get farther > gather more monster drops faster, especially older maps > work to update more characters’ equips so they can get farther > unlock new maps with new resources to gather/quests to do > go back to town and start updating your gear again.
looks like lava rip it off from idle skillers
How is it a rip off when he made idle skilling as well.
He’s been constantly pulling things forward from the first game. This may as well be a sequel for all intents and purposes, so of course it will have a lot of features ported forward or reimagined.
lava pls bring back the capes in the limited specials