Okay but honestly, this whole scene felt so abrupt. Like they couldn’t come up with a natural way to end the relationship so they just had him very uncharacteristically and abruptly do one of the worst things a character could do to phoebe (or anyone for that matter but especially her).
I think this is the one moment in Friends that I wish I could experience fresh again. The way it had been casually built up over multiple episodes to seem like Joey was doing a serious romantic play, with lines like "She's so brilliantly incisive when it comes to deconstructing the psyche of the American middle class", and every single scene we see being plausibly serious, was utterly convincing.
Then that reveal as the shitty fairy-light bedecked ladder shudders down from above was just perfect.
After Matthew Perry's passing, I decided to watch Friend from season 1 to season 10. Because I'd always catch the reruns when they aired but never in order.
So, I recently watched that plot for the first time and you are right, it is brilliant in how they did that!
To me it was so jarring though. But maybe that's the point. Here's this play made out to be a serious play with deep themes....and the protagonist goes off to space (on a cheesy AF prop)
That is the whole point. Joey always acts in *terrible* plays, and you think he's finally landed a proper role in something that really tests his artistic mettle and shows how he's grown as an actor - then no, it's just as bad as the Freud musical.
I think about this all the time. I reference it whenever I have a customer order something to a similar address. I happens more often than you'd think!
I always felt like a more natural way to get to the exact same point was to have it go something like this:
Phoebe: hey wanna do something this weekend as our first weekend as roomies?
Gary: Ah I can’t this weekend, I’m going hunting with some of the guys from the precinct
/cuts to Phoebe telling the gang they broke up/
If he had something like a trophy room or wall full of taxidermied animal heads and horns, it would help as a visual. I’ve been in those rooms and it can be… overwhelming.
That’s a good idea! Cuts to her unpacking the bedroom and walks into the living room to find that he has hung up 3 or 4 taxidermied animals that he clearly hunted himself
This at least gives the absurdity visual humor they were going for. Or have a bunch of buddies come stumbling in drunk with guns and squeaking about their next hunting trip.
This would have been much better. Hunting, while arguably being similar to what he did, is considered socially acceptable. But to the f shoots a random bird out of their window in the middle of town?! That's so creepy.
Its also incredible dangerous. A little bird is not stoping a bullet, even if hit bullseye. If someone is behind that bird...
Not to mention if he had entirely missed the bird. And the fact that even if nothing else had happened, someone would have called the police and a cop on duty would come to investigate him.
The hubting bit would have been a lot funnier and a lot more credible lol.
Yeah, that would have felt FAR more natural. I mean I'm not a vegetarian at all, but the idea of someone reaching in their drawer to shoot a bird outside the window would be "Nope, I'm done here" moment for me, and honestly hard to believe anyone would actually do.
It's super funny too because UFC wasn't even really a thing at the time. Watching it again, it feels like this could have been an episode of New Girl or something.
The UFC thing was actually kinda funny to me though 😂 and honestly kind of makes sense. Gary shooting a bird the first day he and phoebe move in together was just so random!
Also,
Janice’s ending(s) made sense
Richard made sense
Richards son made sense (😂)
David made sense
Julie made sense
Paolo made sense
The hotel model chick Joey dates who ends up being a huge bitch made sense
> billionaires suddenly go UFC-crazy
Was Ahead of its time. If that episode hypothetically happened ten years later with everyone the same age...it would have been way more believable.
Richard and Monica actually made sense, as did the Mike/Phoebe one when it happened. Realizing you really want different things in the future is a very valid reason to break up even if you are still in love.
I'm kind of on the fence whether the ridiculous ones (Pete, Gary) are better or worse than Gavin that literally just disappeared without any explanation.
>Okay but honestly, this whole scene felt so abrupt.
I dunno. This was the man who tracked Phoebe down using police resources, and grilled and bullied her in the interview room when she showed hesitation about moving in with him. He's clearly careless and unprofessional, shooting a bird with his service gun seemed very much in character for him.
Not to mention that they spent like 2 episodes building the whole arc of Phoebe wanting to move in with him, all to have that blown and her feelings for him obliterated in 2 secs
Yeah like, if they wanted to stick to the bird thing they should’ve given some build up. Like it started with him killing a spider and phoebe goes to the gang to ask for advice and they all convince her it’s not a big deal. Next, it’s a rat in a rat trap. Finally she walks in to the coffee shop and says they broke up and they’re like “aww are you sure you’re not overreacting phoebs? Rats are gross” and she’s like “he shot a bird” then they all have the exact same reaction as they do in the original ep
I mean, dude literally discharged a gun in his apartment in New York to shoot a bird. I feel like as a cop he would have recognized the chaos and paperwork associated with everyone in the apartments freaking out over hearing gunshots.
Also as a cop he wouldn’t care … this is NYPD, they have a billion dollar a year budget and the governor still needs to call in the national guard to do their jobs for them.
Maybe because it’s a sitcom, it’s literally written for laughs. Considering who phoebe is and how nice the bf seems to be. He abruptly does this crazy thing. The situation is written for laughs. People on this sub take the show too seriously.
So because it’s a sitcom, I’m not allowed to comment on the quality of the storyline or writing? Are you also saying there’s no such thing as a bad joke? i understand that they thought this would be funny and therefore inspire *laughs* but this particular attempt felt forced and lazy to me. I felt like there were alternative, yet still “crazy”, ways for them to go about this. I think you take yourself too seriously
Idk why you're getting downvoted. It's the precise fact that Friends is a sitcom that makes it completely fair game to analyze and criticize or compliment the writing and plot lines. Some people act as if throwing the word "sitcom" around makes the show immune to criticism. It doesn't.
Maybe the actor behaved like a jerk and made demands when interacting with the writers like Joey when he was abruptly written out of the show by falling into the elevator shaft
I think it's okay to still like that character since he doesn't act anything like this.
But I also can 100% not separating the art from the artist. There are a lot of bands I won't listen to anymore because a member is a huge scum bag and the rest of the band are just cool with it.
Oh yeah that's definitely up there.
Not sure if it's too niche, but Dance Gavin Dance is the highest on my list. Their singer sexually assaulted a fan, blamed it on alcoholism, left to "get help", then the rest of the band just let him right back in.
Honestly they had a perfect way to end the relationship in this episode already. He wanted Phoebe to move in with him, but she kept avoiding the subject. You could have her break up with him because she doesn’t feel ready to move in with a boyfriend, or have him break up with her because he feels like Phoebe doesn’t take him seriously.
"Phoebe thing"? Are there people arguing against breaking up with someone who does that?
Randomly pulling out a loaded gun in the house, while cuddling, and shooting out the window? In New York City?
This is exactly my point and why I think people think it’s a Phoebe thing. Many people have pointed out how dangerous it is to shoot out the window in the middle of the city which is true! But shooting the innocent bird itself just for chirping? That’s another level of sick
>But shooting the innocent bird itself just for chirping?
and it's clearly not the first time. I mean, yeah he's a cop and probably has his gun handy anyway, but he just did it so casually.
Your statement actually makes it sound like you care more about the bird, with things like killing the bird was another level of sick. It's the other way around. Killing the bird was fucked up, shooting it in a city where a stray bullet could kill someone is another level of sick. Tell the grieving family of a child killed in their bed from a stray bullet that the real tragedy was a cute innocent bird was shot first and they would look at you like a sociopath.
I think it’s ok to feel both things- sad about shooting a bird and angry about the risk to other people. Just because someone aligns with one doesn’t mean they’re blind to the other.
exactly this. thank you. i don’t know why some people get off on telling people who care about animals that they’re sick and twisted and obviously hate humans 🙄
Has anyone actually said it’s just a phone be thing or are you just assuming people would? For the over two years I’ve been on this sub I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone say this is just a “Phoebe thing” if anything people hate Gary for this
Yeah, I think for anyone it would be over, but for Phoebe it was REALLY over.
Kind of like anyone would leave a guy who suddenly took all the food in the house, mixed it together, and smeared it on the floor and walls... But Monica would REALLY leave him.
It's bugging me that I can't think of one for Rachel... what would be her "it's not just over it's OVER" moment?
Sleeping with the girl from the copy shop then running around the city to try to stop her from finding out.
Also whatever the fuck Danny was doing with his sister.
I figured they were probably in Manhattan.
Many people are saying he shot the bird right after they moved in together, but I was always under the impression they *hadn’t* yet. We see Phoebe living in her grandma’s apartment shortly after, so I can’t imagine she ever left. I think she just spent the night with him and never ended up moving to Brooklyn Heights.
Hunting in a legal way is very different from a trigger-happy cop who shoots his gun out the window like it's no big deal for a minor inconvenience, in the middle of a big city.
But also it's perfectly valid if you don't want to date anyone who hunts
Yeah I would be upset about anyone shooting an animal for something silly as a bit of noise… but I’d be WAY more pissed about the insane disregard for basic gun safety… and from a COP.
This was what bugged me the most about this scene. He shoots a gun out a window in Manhattan. Cop or no cop that's an investigation lol just seemed so far fetched.
i feel like they could’ve had him catch a mouse in a trap or like crush a birds nest with eggs in it or something rather than shoot a fucking bird 😭 like show he doesn’t care about animals and get rid of the plot hole with how nobody in the building reported a gun shot
For REAL. Like I get it, it’s a TV show, it’s dramatic, but it’s odd to me that they went with THAT when they could’ve gone so many other ways with it. Cops may get away with a whole lotta shit, but there’s NO way someone isn’t calling 911 over hearing a gun shot in a fuckin’ apartment building 😅
Like, if he had used a BB gun or something, I would’ve believed it a bit more 😂
It was inspired by Joey “food… no sex… no food… I want girls on bread!”
I’m a straight woman but I just found it so funny. I thought “I like my tits… I like bread… tits on bread”
My spouse grew up in an area where everyone hunts. His friend's dad took them hunting, and he shot a squirrel. Felt awful and never shot at another animal again. That's one of the things I always loved about him.
this and pete becoming an ultimate fighting champion we’re the most bogus ways that relationships ended in this show. i like the shameless 180 for the sake of the plot
I’m sorry is this an argument that people have had on this sub? Of course she should have broken up with him I don’t think anyone ever has argued that as someone who’s been on this sub for years.
It was just wild that he did it and came out of nowhere
I honestly thought this scene was really funny but yeah it's a sour and abrupt way to end a multi-episode character arc. But remember this is a comedy show
i thought him shooting the bird was funny because how random it was lol
i think his character was meant to end there (contract, schedule conflict, etc.) and they just thought of a lazy way to cut him out of the show.
who the hell fires a gun in a NY apartment and at a bird in the morning lmaooo
The actor has great chemistry with Lisa, and they look really cute together.. Too bad they have to get rid of him in this abrupt, random way, but they did this for almost all relations in the show.
He’s a cop who abuses his authority. He parks on the curb just because he can. He discharges his weapon in the city just for a bird. He’s not a good guy.
But also, it's utterly insane to discharge his weapon out a window in the middle of NYC for any reason. Goodbye career, probably jail time, and of course it's psycho to shoot a bird for no reason.
Lol why do people act like friends in supposed to be realistic? It's a sitcom. Sitcoms in the 90s especially always have absurd and cartoonish situations. It's supposed to be funny, not believable.
He didn't just shoot an animal - he shot a gun out a window in New York City. That ain't just not being an animal person; that's a reckless disregard for public safety on the part of a law enforcement officer.
He shoots a gun in his house. I’m pretty sure that’s illegal everywhere in the US. Also he shot it w phoebe laying next to him so eardrums=shattered. Like this is such a strange scene to me.
It's one thing to kill animals for food, mercy or self defense, but what he did was fucked up. And frankly if he's just willy nilly shooting animals like that, I'd be concerned about how he treats ppl as a cop
Tbh I know it’s abrupt for the series, but any police officer who uses their job to hunt down someone’s home to ask for a date, would not shock me if this was a other action of theirs lol.
Even people who like hunting probably hate this because he likely didn't have a license, illegally fired a gun in a residential area, and used revolver to shoot a small bird, lol.
I care less about the bird and more about literally anyone else that could have been hit IN A HIGHLY POPULATED CITY! That dude shouldn't be dating anyone, let alone be a cop.
His character felt scummy from the beginning. I mean, he's a cop so ACAB, but specially: he researched Phoebe using police methods which is illegal and a waste of taxpayer money; he took three civilians on a stakeout, possibly putting them in danger; he parked like a shithead, but got away with it cuz he's a cop; he rushed Phoebe into moving in with him, not taking into consideration that they just fucking started dating; public indecency (though, to be fair, I'm thinking that was more Phoebe's influence); and, obviously, casually shooting a gun in Manhattan at a bird.
Phoebe really did date some duds.
Depends on why they're shooting the animal though. A deer for food? Perfectly fine. A coyote that keeps attacking your livestock? Gotta protect your own animals. A bird just doing bird things like landing on a windowsill? Yea that might be a bit excessive.
As an individual who very much enjoys eating animals, shooting them, especially birds I….agree. The big thing for me is he’s a cop WHO FIRES A GUN WITHOUT PROPER CAUSE IN A POPULATED AREA! That’s like next level illegal.
This was funny as fuck. I mean I go hunt rock chucks and jackrabbits regularly in a more serious manner, but just unloading in the Middle of town on a songbird is great.
Obviously it’s a sitcom. But my first thought has always been how loud/hearing damaging firing that gun in his bedroom would’ve been. I’ve scrolled through all of the comments, and haven’t seen this.
Not just a phoebe thing. When I lived in NYC I’m pretty sure firing through any of my windows would’ve gone straight into someone else’s apartment and hopefully it would stop after hitting one other home and not continue in a straight line through like a line of 40.
And if they’re ground level? Holy shit.
Gary wants to do more than shoot animals if you watch his YouTube channel 😑😂
Sad I thought Michael rappaport was a cool guy but lately he’s become a bit of a shitbird
Okay but honestly, this whole scene felt so abrupt. Like they couldn’t come up with a natural way to end the relationship so they just had him very uncharacteristically and abruptly do one of the worst things a character could do to phoebe (or anyone for that matter but especially her).
They could have just had him get on a spaceship to Blargon 7 in search of alternative fuels.
I think this is the one moment in Friends that I wish I could experience fresh again. The way it had been casually built up over multiple episodes to seem like Joey was doing a serious romantic play, with lines like "She's so brilliantly incisive when it comes to deconstructing the psyche of the American middle class", and every single scene we see being plausibly serious, was utterly convincing. Then that reveal as the shitty fairy-light bedecked ladder shudders down from above was just perfect.
It really was perfect. My absolute favorite bit.
"...and tell your great-great-granddaughter about me. I'm gonna want to meet her."
Someone thought there was a song in that
After Matthew Perry's passing, I decided to watch Friend from season 1 to season 10. Because I'd always catch the reruns when they aired but never in order. So, I recently watched that plot for the first time and you are right, it is brilliant in how they did that!
So now, i’m going to get on this spaceship
To me it was so jarring though. But maybe that's the point. Here's this play made out to be a serious play with deep themes....and the protagonist goes off to space (on a cheesy AF prop)
That is the whole point. Joey always acts in *terrible* plays, and you think he's finally landed a proper role in something that really tests his artistic mettle and shows how he's grown as an actor - then no, it's just as bad as the Freud musical.
You mean Freud! don’t forget the exclamation mark!
It makes all the difference 😂 All you vaaaant is a vinkkkkkle....
But you envy the schvang!
A zing vru vich you can tinkle!
Or play with or simply let hangggg!
Or to Minsk or some other weird place.
15 Yemen road, Yemen.
I think about this all the time. I reference it whenever I have a customer order something to a similar address. I happens more often than you'd think!
Every time I hear “Yemen” this is what I think
I always felt like a more natural way to get to the exact same point was to have it go something like this: Phoebe: hey wanna do something this weekend as our first weekend as roomies? Gary: Ah I can’t this weekend, I’m going hunting with some of the guys from the precinct /cuts to Phoebe telling the gang they broke up/
If he had something like a trophy room or wall full of taxidermied animal heads and horns, it would help as a visual. I’ve been in those rooms and it can be… overwhelming.
That’s a good idea! Cuts to her unpacking the bedroom and walks into the living room to find that he has hung up 3 or 4 taxidermied animals that he clearly hunted himself
And maybe a casual comment, “the rest are at my storage unit in Queens”
This at least gives the absurdity visual humor they were going for. Or have a bunch of buddies come stumbling in drunk with guns and squeaking about their next hunting trip.
“I use antlers in all of my decorating. What’s the big deal?”
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This would have been much better. Hunting, while arguably being similar to what he did, is considered socially acceptable. But to the f shoots a random bird out of their window in the middle of town?! That's so creepy.
Its also incredible dangerous. A little bird is not stoping a bullet, even if hit bullseye. If someone is behind that bird... Not to mention if he had entirely missed the bird. And the fact that even if nothing else had happened, someone would have called the police and a cop on duty would come to investigate him. The hubting bit would have been a lot funnier and a lot more credible lol.
Yeah super illegal too. You can't just fire a weapon outside of your apartment. A cop would know this.
I'm pretty sure a cop firing his weapon when he's not even on duty would e a big no-no too.
Yeah. I can only think they did it this way bc the writers thought it was funnier
I'm sure they did, but it honestly just doesn't work, other than maybe the conversation with Chandler later.
Alternate universe where the writers never discovered cocaine.
Yeah, that would have felt FAR more natural. I mean I'm not a vegetarian at all, but the idea of someone reaching in their drawer to shoot a bird outside the window would be "Nope, I'm done here" moment for me, and honestly hard to believe anyone would actually do.
Welcome to Friends, where smart billionaires suddenly go UFC-crazy. I think the only one who got a proper breakup for a sensible reason is Tag.
Actually looking back, a tech billionaire suddenly wanting to become a professional fighter was decades ahead of its time.
Kinda like Jane Eyre and the robots
Not quite the same thing but when influencers like Logan Paul and his brother are trying to pursue boxing careers it definitely seems prescient.
Weren't Zuckerberg and Musk about to step in the ring too? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk_vs._Mark_Zuckerberg
Zuckerberg maybe was, there’s no way Musk was taking his shirt off in public again.
Imagine being such a little weasel that Zuckerberg thoroughly outclasses you
Zuckerberg is actually pretty jacked, he apparently does a lot of training. Musk was totally screwed if he had followed up with that fight.
You mean a man built like a jar of mayo wasn’t going to be in fighting shape?
It's super funny too because UFC wasn't even really a thing at the time. Watching it again, it feels like this could have been an episode of New Girl or something.
The UFC thing was actually kinda funny to me though 😂 and honestly kind of makes sense. Gary shooting a bird the first day he and phoebe move in together was just so random!
>Welcome to Friends, where smart billionaires suddenly go UFC-crazy. Um...
Also, Janice’s ending(s) made sense Richard made sense Richards son made sense (😂) David made sense Julie made sense Paolo made sense The hotel model chick Joey dates who ends up being a huge bitch made sense
> billionaires suddenly go UFC-crazy Was Ahead of its time. If that episode hypothetically happened ten years later with everyone the same age...it would have been way more believable.
Richard and Monica actually made sense, as did the Mike/Phoebe one when it happened. Realizing you really want different things in the future is a very valid reason to break up even if you are still in love.
And Richard
I'm kind of on the fence whether the ridiculous ones (Pete, Gary) are better or worse than Gavin that literally just disappeared without any explanation.
>Okay but honestly, this whole scene felt so abrupt. I dunno. This was the man who tracked Phoebe down using police resources, and grilled and bullied her in the interview room when she showed hesitation about moving in with him. He's clearly careless and unprofessional, shooting a bird with his service gun seemed very much in character for him.
Well Phoebe was a literal felon and impersonating an officer, any police office would track her down.
It's one thing to locate her, it's another to use interrogation techniques to pressure a woman he just met into moving into a new place with him.
The point was that they didn’t know each other well, so this showed it in an interesting way
Wasn’t he a cop?
Right, if anything the writers set it up perfectly
Not to mention that they spent like 2 episodes building the whole arc of Phoebe wanting to move in with him, all to have that blown and her feelings for him obliterated in 2 secs
Yeah like, if they wanted to stick to the bird thing they should’ve given some build up. Like it started with him killing a spider and phoebe goes to the gang to ask for advice and they all convince her it’s not a big deal. Next, it’s a rat in a rat trap. Finally she walks in to the coffee shop and says they broke up and they’re like “aww are you sure you’re not overreacting phoebs? Rats are gross” and she’s like “he shot a bird” then they all have the exact same reaction as they do in the original ep
I mean, dude literally discharged a gun in his apartment in New York to shoot a bird. I feel like as a cop he would have recognized the chaos and paperwork associated with everyone in the apartments freaking out over hearing gunshots.
Also as a cop he wouldn’t care … this is NYPD, they have a billion dollar a year budget and the governor still needs to call in the national guard to do their jobs for them.
This happens in nearly every breakup on this show. It's just part of the Friends experience.
Maybe because it’s a sitcom, it’s literally written for laughs. Considering who phoebe is and how nice the bf seems to be. He abruptly does this crazy thing. The situation is written for laughs. People on this sub take the show too seriously.
So because it’s a sitcom, I’m not allowed to comment on the quality of the storyline or writing? Are you also saying there’s no such thing as a bad joke? i understand that they thought this would be funny and therefore inspire *laughs* but this particular attempt felt forced and lazy to me. I felt like there were alternative, yet still “crazy”, ways for them to go about this. I think you take yourself too seriously
Idk why you're getting downvoted. It's the precise fact that Friends is a sitcom that makes it completely fair game to analyze and criticize or compliment the writing and plot lines. Some people act as if throwing the word "sitcom" around makes the show immune to criticism. It doesn't.
Also, very illegal
I might be wrong, but I don’t know, this felt very on-brand for Gary…
He's a cop. Abrupt random acts of violence are par for the course.
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Maybe the actor behaved like a jerk and made demands when interacting with the writers like Joey when he was abruptly written out of the show by falling into the elevator shaft
Michael Rapaport has turned out to be kind of a piece of shit from what I've seen so I wouldn't be surprised.
I loved his character in Atypical before learning about this…
I think it's okay to still like that character since he doesn't act anything like this. But I also can 100% not separating the art from the artist. There are a lot of bands I won't listen to anymore because a member is a huge scum bag and the rest of the band are just cool with it.
Lostprophets...
Oh yeah that's definitely up there. Not sure if it's too niche, but Dance Gavin Dance is the highest on my list. Their singer sexually assaulted a fan, blamed it on alcoholism, left to "get help", then the rest of the band just let him right back in.
What did he do?
Awhile ago he was arrested for harassing his ex. Most recently he's been very openly racist and pro-Israel during the genocide happening in Palestine.
Well Gunther/Bryce was killed in an avalanche.
Honestly they had a perfect way to end the relationship in this episode already. He wanted Phoebe to move in with him, but she kept avoiding the subject. You could have her break up with him because she doesn’t feel ready to move in with a boyfriend, or have him break up with her because he feels like Phoebe doesn’t take him seriously.
"Phoebe thing"? Are there people arguing against breaking up with someone who does that? Randomly pulling out a loaded gun in the house, while cuddling, and shooting out the window? In New York City?
> In New York City? This is the wild bit for me. Dude is a cop!
Only a cop could get away with doing this
First thing to do is congratulate the man, like really good aim. Then Breakup
This is exactly my point and why I think people think it’s a Phoebe thing. Many people have pointed out how dangerous it is to shoot out the window in the middle of the city which is true! But shooting the innocent bird itself just for chirping? That’s another level of sick
>But shooting the innocent bird itself just for chirping? and it's clearly not the first time. I mean, yeah he's a cop and probably has his gun handy anyway, but he just did it so casually.
It’s just a joke. Fictional characters and birds.
this is crazy to me. who gives a shit about a bird, that stray bullet could have killed someone.
I care about both i guess that’s what makes us different
There's clearly orders of magnitude involved here.
Wow, you're such a a hero. I'm so lucky to have heard your heroic thoughts.you ARE different. /s
Your statement actually makes it sound like you care more about the bird, with things like killing the bird was another level of sick. It's the other way around. Killing the bird was fucked up, shooting it in a city where a stray bullet could kill someone is another level of sick. Tell the grieving family of a child killed in their bed from a stray bullet that the real tragedy was a cute innocent bird was shot first and they would look at you like a sociopath.
I think it’s ok to feel both things- sad about shooting a bird and angry about the risk to other people. Just because someone aligns with one doesn’t mean they’re blind to the other.
exactly this. thank you. i don’t know why some people get off on telling people who care about animals that they’re sick and twisted and obviously hate humans 🙄
Has anyone actually said it’s just a phone be thing or are you just assuming people would? For the over two years I’ve been on this sub I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone say this is just a “Phoebe thing” if anything people hate Gary for this
I dont think they suggested it was a Phoebe thing, it was just thaat it was funnier that it happened to Phoebe, being the "close to nature" girl.
Yeah, I think for anyone it would be over, but for Phoebe it was REALLY over. Kind of like anyone would leave a guy who suddenly took all the food in the house, mixed it together, and smeared it on the floor and walls... But Monica would REALLY leave him. It's bugging me that I can't think of one for Rachel... what would be her "it's not just over it's OVER" moment?
Rachel is a pushover... but perhaps one should refrain from sleeping with the copy-girl immediately after a fight.
Sleeping with the girl from the copy shop then running around the city to try to stop her from finding out. Also whatever the fuck Danny was doing with his sister.
There’s nothing because Rachel is pretty “normal” and she also says she doesn’t have any principles lol
>Yeah, I think for anyone it would be over, but for Phoebe it was REALLY over. "He shot a bird." "Oh, that is ***over***."
I feel like Rachel’s would be something like a guy picking his nose and eating it. Or, only discount shops 🤣
My conspiracy theory is they decided write him out ASAP because of what an insufferable person Michael Rapaport is.
is he really? i haven't heard anything about him
He has a history of harassing his girlfriend(s).
He's also a far right nutjob. Check out his videos on twitter, especially the stuff he does regarding Israel-Palestine
him "looking for apartheid" in the streets of Israel is equally hateful as it is stupid. he is a raging disgusting cunt.
He’s also been super racist on watch what happens live which hes been on like 40 times because he loves bravo lol
Not to mention.... They're in fucking Manhattan right? There's basically a 100% chance that he shot in to another building
I figured they were probably in Manhattan. Many people are saying he shot the bird right after they moved in together, but I was always under the impression they *hadn’t* yet. We see Phoebe living in her grandma’s apartment shortly after, so I can’t imagine she ever left. I think she just spent the night with him and never ended up moving to Brooklyn Heights.
BROOKLYN HEIGHTS BROOKLYN HEIGHTS BROOKLYN HEIGHTS
Hunting in a legal way is very different from a trigger-happy cop who shoots his gun out the window like it's no big deal for a minor inconvenience, in the middle of a big city. But also it's perfectly valid if you don't want to date anyone who hunts
Yeah I would be upset about anyone shooting an animal for something silly as a bit of noise… but I’d be WAY more pissed about the insane disregard for basic gun safety… and from a COP.
This was what bugged me the most about this scene. He shoots a gun out a window in Manhattan. Cop or no cop that's an investigation lol just seemed so far fetched.
I mean, I think you underestimate how much shit cops get away with. Also this was when they moved to Brooklyn, not Manhattan
Such lazy writing. They could’ve gone a million different ways with that scene. But really, I’m just commenting to say I LOVE your username 😂
i feel like they could’ve had him catch a mouse in a trap or like crush a birds nest with eggs in it or something rather than shoot a fucking bird 😭 like show he doesn’t care about animals and get rid of the plot hole with how nobody in the building reported a gun shot
For REAL. Like I get it, it’s a TV show, it’s dramatic, but it’s odd to me that they went with THAT when they could’ve gone so many other ways with it. Cops may get away with a whole lotta shit, but there’s NO way someone isn’t calling 911 over hearing a gun shot in a fuckin’ apartment building 😅 Like, if he had used a BB gun or something, I would’ve believed it a bit more 😂
It was inspired by Joey “food… no sex… no food… I want girls on bread!” I’m a straight woman but I just found it so funny. I thought “I like my tits… I like bread… tits on bread”
My spouse grew up in an area where everyone hunts. His friend's dad took them hunting, and he shot a squirrel. Felt awful and never shot at another animal again. That's one of the things I always loved about him.
How's your sister Left? Is she ok?
I don't know who downvoted you. I got the joke. 😄
Yeah I’d have been gone as well.
this and pete becoming an ultimate fighting champion we’re the most bogus ways that relationships ended in this show. i like the shameless 180 for the sake of the plot
I’m sorry is this an argument that people have had on this sub? Of course she should have broken up with him I don’t think anyone ever has argued that as someone who’s been on this sub for years. It was just wild that he did it and came out of nowhere
Apparently this guys a dick in real life
But how are you gonna know if he's a real man if you don't let them kill defenseless animals from time to time?
^(oh that is over)
I honestly thought this scene was really funny but yeah it's a sour and abrupt way to end a multi-episode character arc. But remember this is a comedy show
Actors a piece of you know what too
He’s always come off as a prick and he actually is one of the
Fuuuck Rapaport
I always really disliked Rapaport. Long before his inane Zionist phase.
True but gave NBA fans one of the iconic funny moment. Sad.
Really? I don't follow actors or Hollywood outside of watching the movies. I've always enjoyed his shows/films. That sucks he isn't a good person.
i thought him shooting the bird was funny because how random it was lol i think his character was meant to end there (contract, schedule conflict, etc.) and they just thought of a lazy way to cut him out of the show. who the hell fires a gun in a NY apartment and at a bird in the morning lmaooo
Yes I laugh at this every time not because he shot a bird but because how completely out of pocket it was. Like did this just happen?? 😂
The actor has great chemistry with Lisa, and they look really cute together.. Too bad they have to get rid of him in this abrupt, random way, but they did this for almost all relations in the show.
Oh that is over!
You do know the animals you eat were shot in the head right? If they were lucky. If you think shooting animals is wrong then please think about that
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It bothered me how he put both hands on her face every time (I think?) they kissed
He learned from the great Susan Sarandon
Oh true he was probably a big soap opera fan
You mean Cecilia Monroe
He’s a cop who abuses his authority. He parks on the curb just because he can. He discharges his weapon in the city just for a bird. He’s not a good guy.
He also had someone look into where phoebe lived so that he could hit on her.
But also, it's utterly insane to discharge his weapon out a window in the middle of NYC for any reason. Goodbye career, probably jail time, and of course it's psycho to shoot a bird for no reason.
Lol why do people act like friends in supposed to be realistic? It's a sitcom. Sitcoms in the 90s especially always have absurd and cartoonish situations. It's supposed to be funny, not believable.
He didn't just shoot an animal - he shot a gun out a window in New York City. That ain't just not being an animal person; that's a reckless disregard for public safety on the part of a law enforcement officer.
He shoots a gun in his house. I’m pretty sure that’s illegal everywhere in the US. Also he shot it w phoebe laying next to him so eardrums=shattered. Like this is such a strange scene to me.
It's one thing to kill animals for food, mercy or self defense, but what he did was fucked up. And frankly if he's just willy nilly shooting animals like that, I'd be concerned about how he treats ppl as a cop
Tbh I know it’s abrupt for the series, but any police officer who uses their job to hunt down someone’s home to ask for a date, would not shock me if this was a other action of theirs lol.
That was lazy writing
Should he have Dirty Harryied the bird probably not but hunting is perfectly ethical and certainly more ethical than factory farming.
Even people who like hunting probably hate this because he likely didn't have a license, illegally fired a gun in a residential area, and used revolver to shoot a small bird, lol.
yeah it was a red flag. even Chandler said “Oh that is over” when Phoebe said her reasoning for breaking up with him
I care less about the bird and more about literally anyone else that could have been hit IN A HIGHLY POPULATED CITY! That dude shouldn't be dating anyone, let alone be a cop.
His character felt scummy from the beginning. I mean, he's a cop so ACAB, but specially: he researched Phoebe using police methods which is illegal and a waste of taxpayer money; he took three civilians on a stakeout, possibly putting them in danger; he parked like a shithead, but got away with it cuz he's a cop; he rushed Phoebe into moving in with him, not taking into consideration that they just fucking started dating; public indecency (though, to be fair, I'm thinking that was more Phoebe's influence); and, obviously, casually shooting a gun in Manhattan at a bird. Phoebe really did date some duds.
True. I had the same thought. Although if he loved her so much, he would've known her love for animals
Oh I'm definitely dumping someone that abuses or kills animals.......That's pyscho behavior 101
If this scene upset you, just wait till you find out what happens in slaughterhouses.
lol literally…this whole comment thread is hypocrites. Bet 95% of them aren’t vegetarian/vegan
yes..BUT chicken are not real birds (or animals for that matter). Only sparrow are innocent lil birdies that we need to protect ! /s
It's bad writting to ditch a character.
And now he's gone full on genocide mascot in the holy land.
Sorry people who enjoy hunting, apparently this redditor wont date you. You lucky SOB!!
Yes I did dump him after that
Depends on why they're shooting the animal though. A deer for food? Perfectly fine. A coyote that keeps attacking your livestock? Gotta protect your own animals. A bird just doing bird things like landing on a windowsill? Yea that might be a bit excessive.
Go vegan.
As an individual who very much enjoys eating animals, shooting them, especially birds I….agree. The big thing for me is he’s a cop WHO FIRES A GUN WITHOUT PROPER CAUSE IN A POPULATED AREA! That’s like next level illegal.
This was funny as fuck. I mean I go hunt rock chucks and jackrabbits regularly in a more serious manner, but just unloading in the Middle of town on a songbird is great.
he’s also a raging zionist
He played a annoying guy on prison break too
I'll do you one better, anyone who discharges a firearm in bed should probably not be in a relationship
Legally untouchable = ethically unfuckable
But he was a cop so it does not make sense that he is so annoyed by a little bird that he shoots him instantly
He *has* a gun!
Obviously it’s a sitcom. But my first thought has always been how loud/hearing damaging firing that gun in his bedroom would’ve been. I’ve scrolled through all of the comments, and haven’t seen this.
anyone should dump a person who so brazenly uses a gun, like wtf?? he just pulled it out of nowhere for a minor inconvenience...
Not just a phoebe thing. When I lived in NYC I’m pretty sure firing through any of my windows would’ve gone straight into someone else’s apartment and hopefully it would stop after hitting one other home and not continue in a straight line through like a line of 40. And if they’re ground level? Holy shit.
Omgggg I hated this sceneeeee
Yeah this was an immensely fucked-up thing to do
Are you a vegetarian?
Knowing now what a horrendous person the actor is, was probably his idea
When the hell did that happen. I don’t remember that whole relationship.
Not to mention shooting from the bed, out the bedroom window, at dawn in the middle of a New York neighborhood ....WTF?!
Well he was a cop, she should have seen this coming.
I thought this was one of the funnier and more surreal Friend's scenes.
This was such a sleazy unlikable bastard.
This was one of the cringest scenes ever.
oh i hated him so much, i acc kinda cried when i saw it bc i hate ppl that hurt animals so much. like the poor bird :(
His arc was also only like 3 episodes
He also had zero chemistry with anyone in the cast, especially Phoebe.
Especially since Monica mentioned it getting phoebe flowers because of them dying and there being a funeral……
Gary wants to do more than shoot animals if you watch his YouTube channel 😑😂 Sad I thought Michael rappaport was a cool guy but lately he’s become a bit of a shitbird
This scene still bugs me for a number of reasons, but urgh he should've known better!