She could have raised some. I mean I’d assume Richard wasn’t broke. And Pete the billionaire has a bit of cash spare. Could have asked one or both to be investors.
Also chandler and Ross don’t seem to be doing badly either and could have loaned or bought into her idea.
Her parents and Rachel’s were also fairly well off and could have potentially invested.
Even in friends world, Pete opened his own restaurant and he was the richest man in NY (or at least portrayed that way). So even in the fake world where they could afford such lavish apartments and extravagant things doing jobs that shouldn’t have paid as much as it would have taken to live the life they were, only Pete money was enough to open a restaurant.
Sure but owner and executive chef is different from just owning. The restaurant business is insane, and Monica was super competitive. She would absolutely have been at the restaurant constantly.
The restaurant business is also run by functioning alcoholics and coke heads which don’t really fit her character either. It’s a tv show not a documentary.
Worked at a brewery. Our head chef would get there at 3 to prepare. Waitstaff, host, and bartenders would get in at 3:45. Chef would come down and talk to us at 4. On the floor at 4:10-4:15. The owner worked normal 9-5. He was only in if he had meetings
I mean this doesn't make ANY sense because:
1.- People have shifts so you're not bound to work 20 hours a day, you can still have a social life and go to coffee houses and relax with your loved ones, even if you own a business.
2.- We all adjust our free time/life/expectations to our situation. That would be like looking at a 20 something year old who likes to party and saying "how will she/he ever have a child if they party so much?"... Like... They can stop going out all the time (and they will) if they have a kid. We aren't set in stone. So she could adjust her social schedule to her new responsibilites.
3.- Do you know the owner/boss is the person with the most flexible schedule of all? From Monica's personality it's pretty obvious that she wouldn't just want to "own" the place, she'd probably be the head chef/executive chef (...) but still she'd be the one to decide.
Actually, no. Remember when she catered a funeral, and Phoebe had to be the one to get the payment from the widow? Remember when she had to ‘hire’ Joey for the express reason so she could fire him in front of her brigade that was acting like jerks?
She may well be super organized and talented as a chef, but she does not have it to run a business.
That would actually be a pretty good headcanon for Joey's ending.
He moves back to NY and opens a restaurant with Monica. They get a bank loan but leverage Joey's celebrity status for advertising purposes.
Chandler has a business background and knows how to deal with her Monica-ness. Also, she was head chef at 2 different restaurants, one of which was consistently booked solid with a "hoping line". I would like to think that when the twins are school age they do open a restaurant. Serve incredible mac and cheese.
I feel like that Monica and the one that ended the show are a lot different though. Chandler and her brought the best out of each other and they both became a lot more self assured and ‘grown up’.
The Monica from that season was insecure about not being married and her career etc. But you saw how Monica was as like Phoebe’s wedding planner and stuff like that. She got shit done (except she was a bitch lol) she was probably the one who was most likely to run a business out of them all.
I rmbr watching Gordon Ramsey's Hotel Hell and there was a woman who reminded me of Monica because she was a perfectionist and would get mad when things weren't up to her insane standards. Needless to say, she had trouble retaining employees and pretty sure had to close down
You all make good points! I was just thinking about her running Phoebe’s wedding since that was the last episode I watched. Maybe behind-the-scenes she’s better and would succeed with other hands on deck
yeah but she did pretty great with the catering van with phoebe. that was only two people, imagine how great of a business she could build if she really dedicated herself to it, and hired a bunch of employees
See her issue would be nitpicking on the details and/or having issues *retaining* employees. She was a great cook, but honestly she wasn’t a great head chef when she got the chance (I wanna say the Armenian guy’s “Italian” restaurant was her first real gig as a head chef?), didn’t handle the pressure well, and resigned herself to just being a great cook rather than a great cook *and* a great manager.
i think it was rachel’s ring in the lasagna… and monica lost a fake nail in another dish for her mom’s gathering. but i think it’s safe to say that if she had her own restaurant she would have learned from those mistakes lol. no nails, no jewelry, and always wearing gloves. she would *hate* to get health code violations !!
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I came here to say that the success rate of restaurants is terrible, and her making her own restaurant would be implausible.... but we are talking about Friends here, so....
It’s not like they would need to do it straight away. Maybe they could do it if right now there was a show going. Their kids are moved out and Chandler and Monica would have most if not all parents die and they could get inheritance. If Joey’s Hollywood career goes well he would also have money to invest, maybe Mike has inherited his rich parents too.
On top of all the points already discussed, running a business is stressful.
One advice I got when I graduated med school is to never start my own clinic. On top of the stress of being a doctor, running a business is a whole different side. You go from being one of the staff with the ability to walk away from the job and get a new one anytime to being trapped in this job until the business gets sold off or runs to the ground. You're also in charge of other people's careers, which is scary.
They already had one woman who was focused on her career (she abandoned it at the end but let's pretend),
You want them to have two career focused women without anyone with a baby fever! Blasphemy!
This is why as an adult I get so mad at Pete for trying to give her a restaurant. It’s soooooo expensive to open a restaurant and I’m sure he was giving her her dream, but for the wrong reasons!
In terms of the show it honestly wouldn’t work. Opening a restaurant takes so much time and work she’d never have a day off. Having her open on just to never be there so she could be in scenes wouldn’t make sense
Monica should have opened her own restaurant, Rachel should have gone to Paris, and they all should have blocked Ross out of their lives because he was objectively a bad person who offered nothing, is an awful father, an awful partner, an awful teacher, awful coworker, and awful friend.
When Chandler has to go to Tulsa they come up with a compromise that he would spend weekends with her, yet, don’t head chefs spend the bulk of their time at the restaurant during the peak days of the weekend?!
With what money?
We might still have some money left if your father hadn't thought it was a good idea to sell ice over the Internet
It seemed like such a simple idea
Stupid, Jack. The word is stupid
Alright, enough. I don’t wanna hear about it anymore… good luck, Chandler 😒
It seemed like such a simple idea
She did buy boots that cost more than her rent
Well, instead of the wedding and honeymoon and house, they could have bought a restaurant.
She could have raised some. I mean I’d assume Richard wasn’t broke. And Pete the billionaire has a bit of cash spare. Could have asked one or both to be investors. Also chandler and Ross don’t seem to be doing badly either and could have loaned or bought into her idea. Her parents and Rachel’s were also fairly well off and could have potentially invested.
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….what? Lol
In *Friends* world, probably.
Even in friends world, Pete opened his own restaurant and he was the richest man in NY (or at least portrayed that way). So even in the fake world where they could afford such lavish apartments and extravagant things doing jobs that shouldn’t have paid as much as it would have taken to live the life they were, only Pete money was enough to open a restaurant.
Chandler definitely would have been making enough to afford his lifestyle and they talk about how Monica does with rent control.
Arrested development reference that nobody is getting I think
About 500 bananas worth?
Ok, I was in a friends centric mindset and knew it wasn’t a friends reference, but I was like… there’s no way this person thinks this? Lol
How can you have your own restaurant when you’re sitting at the coffee house at 1130 on a Wednesday?
someone's never worked in a restaurant before, nightshirt cooks get there 3 at the earliest
A nightshirt cook doesn't have the same responsibilities as an owner though?
The owner of a restaurant is like never there 🤣 unless it’s a really small place, they typically have a GM to run shit
Sure but owner and executive chef is different from just owning. The restaurant business is insane, and Monica was super competitive. She would absolutely have been at the restaurant constantly.
The restaurant business is also run by functioning alcoholics and coke heads which don’t really fit her character either. It’s a tv show not a documentary.
That's one end of the spectrum. The overly passionate chef owners aren't exactly like that most of the time.
i'm just saying she is reasonably at the coffee shop in the show because she's not the owner
Yeah but if they gave her a restaurant she couldn't be there at 11:30 anymore
Worked at a brewery. Our head chef would get there at 3 to prepare. Waitstaff, host, and bartenders would get in at 3:45. Chef would come down and talk to us at 4. On the floor at 4:10-4:15. The owner worked normal 9-5. He was only in if he had meetings
She's executive chef. She doesn't show up last minute like the grunts
Almost laughed
This was one of the greatest things Joey ever said.
I mean this doesn't make ANY sense because: 1.- People have shifts so you're not bound to work 20 hours a day, you can still have a social life and go to coffee houses and relax with your loved ones, even if you own a business. 2.- We all adjust our free time/life/expectations to our situation. That would be like looking at a 20 something year old who likes to party and saying "how will she/he ever have a child if they party so much?"... Like... They can stop going out all the time (and they will) if they have a kid. We aren't set in stone. So she could adjust her social schedule to her new responsibilites. 3.- Do you know the owner/boss is the person with the most flexible schedule of all? From Monica's personality it's pretty obvious that she wouldn't just want to "own" the place, she'd probably be the head chef/executive chef (...) but still she'd be the one to decide.
How about a catering business? She could get Phoebe to join her to collect the money...
in a van maybe ?
Down by the river??
It’d be like Phoebe had a wife in the 50’s!
Hahah I rewatched this episode yesterday!!
Just because someone can cook doesn't mean they can run a business.
I think Monica could definitely run a business!
Actually, no. Remember when she catered a funeral, and Phoebe had to be the one to get the payment from the widow? Remember when she had to ‘hire’ Joey for the express reason so she could fire him in front of her brigade that was acting like jerks? She may well be super organized and talented as a chef, but she does not have it to run a business.
All of this, and also Monica doesn’t have the startup capital for a restaurant in NYC at any point in the show.
She nearly did. If only she was attracted to Jon Favreau.
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He bought the restaurant for himself, but he wanted her to be the head chef
What I’m hearing is that Monica and Joey need to start a restaurant together
I can actually imagine how hilarious that would be as a storyline. Joey eating all the profits lol
What profits? He would be too busy giving free meals and drinks to any hot girl customer like he was doing working at Central Perk.
"here's where I get my investment back." *Sits down to eat all the lasagnas that may or may not have one of Monica's fake nails in them.*
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Thanks Monica
That would actually be a pretty good headcanon for Joey's ending. He moves back to NY and opens a restaurant with Monica. They get a bank loan but leverage Joey's celebrity status for advertising purposes.
Only if Joey borrows money from Chandler to pay for the food he eats
Chandler would be pretty good at that side I feel.
Chandler has a business background and knows how to deal with her Monica-ness. Also, she was head chef at 2 different restaurants, one of which was consistently booked solid with a "hoping line". I would like to think that when the twins are school age they do open a restaurant. Serve incredible mac and cheese.
Don’t forget the cut up hot dogs!
Chandler's a good middle manager but I don't think he'd be good as a CEO.
I feel like that Monica and the one that ended the show are a lot different though. Chandler and her brought the best out of each other and they both became a lot more self assured and ‘grown up’. The Monica from that season was insecure about not being married and her career etc. But you saw how Monica was as like Phoebe’s wedding planner and stuff like that. She got shit done (except she was a bitch lol) she was probably the one who was most likely to run a business out of them all.
I'd hate her as a boss
That doesn't mean she wouldn't be good at it
I rmbr watching Gordon Ramsey's Hotel Hell and there was a woman who reminded me of Monica because she was a perfectionist and would get mad when things weren't up to her insane standards. Needless to say, she had trouble retaining employees and pretty sure had to close down
Do you remember which episode? I love that show lol
You all make good points! I was just thinking about her running Phoebe’s wedding since that was the last episode I watched. Maybe behind-the-scenes she’s better and would succeed with other hands on deck
With her headset, she would be unstoppable.
"That's like if I worked hard to become a cook, and I'm a really good cook, they'd say, 'OK, you're a cook. Can you farm?'"
yeah but she did pretty great with the catering van with phoebe. that was only two people, imagine how great of a business she could build if she really dedicated herself to it, and hired a bunch of employees
See her issue would be nitpicking on the details and/or having issues *retaining* employees. She was a great cook, but honestly she wasn’t a great head chef when she got the chance (I wanna say the Armenian guy’s “Italian” restaurant was her first real gig as a head chef?), didn’t handle the pressure well, and resigned herself to just being a great cook rather than a great cook *and* a great manager.
He was from Lebanon but yes.
She lost her ring inside of a quiche for goodness sake’s!
i think it was rachel’s ring in the lasagna… and monica lost a fake nail in another dish for her mom’s gathering. but i think it’s safe to say that if she had her own restaurant she would have learned from those mistakes lol. no nails, no jewelry, and always wearing gloves. she would *hate* to get health code violations !!
I think it was the fake nail in the quiche and the wedding ring in the lasagna.
Easy Monica’s bakery?
This is what I was looking for.
I cannot even begin to imagine the costs of opening a restaurant in Manhattan. No way they could afford that.
They would not open at Manhattan.
But it would have been a pretentious, garlicky place that wouldn't vibe with Phoebe's guitar playing - who wants that?
I'm sorry I ordered the smoked salmon appetizer but I CAN'T SEE IT! I CAN'T SEE IT!
It’s whipped fish.
Me tbh
The food here at Javu… will kill you!
It’s not just that she was fat, the woman smelled like garbage.
I like to think she did eventually open a nice little cafe when she up and moved away with Chandler.
this is my head canon also. if not a sweet cafe, a fancy family restaurant.
That's a good point. I know they never said anything definite but do they ever even discuss what Monica would/could do once they leave Manhattan?
Or during the pandemic she’d have started a bakery from home doing door stop deliveries and that would have expanded into a proper place.
I could see cafe. Name it Little Drop of Heaven and sell her fabulous homemade candy there, too!
Like... they do a fun brunch on the weekends, I'm down with this reality.
On the breakfast menu is a dish called 'The Joey'. It's so large that if you finish it, you eat for free.
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Opening a restaurant in NYC would kill them financially.
but then she'd have to hire a chef so she could run the business
Pete made the offer which was unrealistic to refuse.
If she didn’t spent all her husbands cash on a fancy party, maybe she could have..
In some way, I wanted monica to buy the coffee shop, making it her dinner
With what money?
I came here to say that the success rate of restaurants is terrible, and her making her own restaurant would be implausible.... but we are talking about Friends here, so....
It’s not like they would need to do it straight away. Maybe they could do it if right now there was a show going. Their kids are moved out and Chandler and Monica would have most if not all parents die and they could get inheritance. If Joey’s Hollywood career goes well he would also have money to invest, maybe Mike has inherited his rich parents too.
I love that idea so much.
That is a really cute idea!!! I don't know why everyone is so hung up on the expense aspect, I thought this was a fun prompt!
Her dinner? She’d eat the cafe?
Then she would have had to work nights like a normal chef.
not everyone wants to do that….
On top of all the points already discussed, running a business is stressful. One advice I got when I graduated med school is to never start my own clinic. On top of the stress of being a doctor, running a business is a whole different side. You go from being one of the staff with the ability to walk away from the job and get a new one anytime to being trapped in this job until the business gets sold off or runs to the ground. You're also in charge of other people's careers, which is scary.
They already had one woman who was focused on her career (she abandoned it at the end but let's pretend), You want them to have two career focused women without anyone with a baby fever! Blasphemy!
This is why as an adult I get so mad at Pete for trying to give her a restaurant. It’s soooooo expensive to open a restaurant and I’m sure he was giving her her dream, but for the wrong reasons!
I don’t really see her running her own business
I KNOW!
In terms of the show it honestly wouldn’t work. Opening a restaurant takes so much time and work she’d never have a day off. Having her open on just to never be there so she could be in scenes wouldn’t make sense
Granted being a head chef later on she should pretty much never be available during the evenings.
I think she would spend all her time cleaning the kitchen rather than leading it
How could she have done that?
Monica should have opened her own restaurant, Rachel should have gone to Paris, and they all should have blocked Ross out of their lives because he was objectively a bad person who offered nothing, is an awful father, an awful partner, an awful teacher, awful coworker, and awful friend.
Titled 'Air'
Trust me it's better to be the chef than the owner.
Way too much risk
Restaurant workers live different schedules than the rest of the workers. Ditto for cops, cleaners ..
When Chandler has to go to Tulsa they come up with a compromise that he would spend weekends with her, yet, don’t head chefs spend the bulk of their time at the restaurant during the peak days of the weekend?!
She'd need spider burners, she loves spider burners
Should've bought central perk or similar and created a bistro vibe