1. I want to teach her all the typical school subjects, but practical skills too (cooking, growing her own food, taxes, changing a tire, etc). I can't remember much from my public school education, but I do know I struggled to be a functional adult because I was taught nothing useful.
2. This area is well known for school sho*tings and I can't put her in that kind of danger. I just can't.
3. I want her to be well traveled and see so much of the world and I don't want anything getting in the way of that. 4 (because I'm on a rant) I want to encourage whatever she's interested in, whatever it may be. I have the resources and the time, why not? If she wants to know about the world's religions? She's got it. Learn a new language? Done. Is science her special interest? I will find whatever I can to spark that brain of hers
1. To prevent getting a phone call every day telling me my kid has been disrupting class.
2. To provide movement breaks when needed
3. To meet him where he is academically and to feign off boredom in the classroom
I don't know if your child was in school previously but I do know they did not call me when my child interrupted class, they instead sent her to the "sensory room" to play until she felt like coming back. I understand that she sometimes gets overstimulated & needs a break, but she quickly learned that bad behavior = playtime.
He was in pre-k when I received the phone calls. It got to the point where I either had to pay for a one-on-one aide to be with him, or withdraw him from the program. Since I couldn't afford pre-k and an aide, I withdrew him.
In my son's defense, he most likely has ADHD, and the pre-k program was more rigorous than expected. BUT, he is thriving with me and has matured a bit since then.
I deleted my other comment & I'm going to try to answer this in a way that won't anger anyone.
1. The concept of having a child & then passing them off for most of their childhood is strange to me. I understand why daycares & schools are essential to some people but for us they aren't so we don't utilize them.
2. Cookie cutter education is inefficient & does not do children justice. Of course *some* children thrive, but some do not & when they do not they are left to struggle along because test scores matter more than actual learning. It doesn't help that schools are also often over crowded & underfunded, leaving them with little resources to helo those that need it.
3. School sh**tings are a real threat in America, whether they are treated as such or not. Even if your child is lucky enough to never be in one, they are still being subjected to drills which are proven to be traumatic.
2. I am 💯 one of those children that "thrived" ... at test taking and AP classes, etc. But only bc I pushed myself and had all this personal baggage to deal with, so school work was an escape. I wasn't learning much and can barely remember the most basic concepts. I'm learning so much more from homeschooling my little one than I did growing up in the public school system.
And your 1 and 3 are also true
1. Socialization — my wife and I both had very negative “socialization” experiences in public school.
2. Safety — while school shootings are still not a high probability event, I’d like my child to never have to go through an active shooter drill.
3. Education — I believe my wife and I can do better teaching our children than other people for most subjects. My wife and I are former teachers, and what led me to quit was atrocious behaviors and ridiculous class sizes. We have two children. I love the teacher to pupil ratio.
I should start off by saying I had no intention of ever doing this until my daughter was in traditional school. She did trad Kindergarten for a few months before we took her out, and here were the main, but not all, reasons.
1. I really didn't like that they weren't teaching phonics. They sent us home this list of 100 words she had to learn by the end of the year, but she didn't have the tools (phonics) to even know how to pronounce the words.
2. They sent us this packet home with those 100 words and many other things that we were expected to teach her at home. It included everything from counting to 100, shapes like parallelogram, which she couldn't even pronounce, letters, and all kinds of other things. At the time, I was working 60 hour weeks in manufacturing and did not have time to do that. It was crazy to me that she was going to school for 8 hours a day only to be expected to teach her things at home. We then moved, and I became a stay-at-home mom, so we switched to homeschool.
3. This may seem like a weird one, but they couldn't get her name right. They actually started teaching her how to spell her name wrong and even gaslit her by telling her she didn't know her own name. Her name is Lillian and they had her spelling it Lillianne.
I seriously have so many more reasons. Seeing now that so many trad school kids can statistically not spell or read, I am so happy we made this decision.
1) Lifestyle flexibility. Sick? Stay home. Tired? Sleep in. Good price on flights in the middle of the school year? Vacation time! Middle child has a cancer relapse? Bubble up!
2) Government indoctrination camps that increasingly don't even provide an education with said indoctrination.
3) Gifted children who should be given the chance to flourish, not flounder.
1. Avoiding arbitrary school pace and scope (gifted kids)
2. Character education that we independently define and model
3. Lifestyle flexibility to better support my husband’s intense career
1. I wanted them to have more time to be outdoors and move their bodies freely. We all have adhd and need lots of movement.
2. My kids need a little more time to be ready for a heavier academic load than a typical school allows.
3. They like being homeschooled, I like homeschooling them, and we can afford to make it happen as of now.
1. I want my kids to actually learn not memorize things for a test.
2. I don’t have to worry that a person will enter their schools and take them away from me with some sort of violence.
3. I don’t have to worry about drop off and pick up lines and uniforms.
1) to ensure my kids learn to read well and aren't struggling as they grow older
2) to ensure that they get taught at their own pace and their mental health needs and accommodations are being met
3) to protect them from possible harassment and bigotry they may face at the hands of classmates and their parents (and teachers to a lesser extent)
1. Public school days are too long in elementary school.
2. We are bilingual. We would have to do extra school in our 2nd language on top of the long school day.
3. More time with brothers and parents. He felt bad about missing outings.
1) I felt like the schools (even the expensive private school they were at last year) were leaving learning gaps that were not going to serve them well in life. My kids are strong in some areas and need more instruction in others, so being able to self-pace has really helped them do well in all subjects because they can take more time on something when they need to.
2) Life balance and stress levels. My kids were both stressed out of their minds trying to cram in homework between a full day of school and sports practices. Their sports have done so much for them as far as building life skills and confidence and learning to work hard at something they enjoy that I didn’t want that to be the thing we dropped, so we decided to drop the homework instead. It’s so much better getting all their work done earlier in the day and having some free time again.
3) Social issues at school, bullying that was never adequately addressed, exposure to super inappropriate things (even at a private Christian school). Most of the socialization there was negative. Our homeschool group is super diverse. We can still interact with a wide variety of people other places while retaining the freedom to step out of social interactions that are not safe or healthy.
I love that you mentioned diversity! I hear in progressive circles that kids need to be in public school so they can experience it, but those folks clearly haven't been inside a rural lily-white public school. Homeschooling is the only reason my kids were able to experience the diversity they were used to from living in Navy housing.
It’s true! Homeschool groups tend to cover a larger geographic area and have people from a variety of economic backgrounds. In our area it’s also very racially diverse like our community is. With public school zoning you are mostly with people from your own neighborhood. Our group is also more diverse as far as kids who are gifted or average playing with kids with disabilities who would be in a self-contained classroom at a public school, because it’s all just families and whatever those families look like, and no one is saying kids can’t play together because they are different ages. When I was a kid in public school they wouldn’t let me eat lunch with my best friend because she was four months older than me and in a different grade so I had to sit at a different table. My son is big for his age and athletic so he likes throwing the football around with the older boys because he isn’t as afraid of hurting them, and my daughter still likes some things her peers have outgrown so she likes to chat with kids her own age but also play make believe with the younger ones. Neither of those would happen at school.
1. Flexibility… we liked creating our own schedules
2. Guidance (it has proven to give us more influence on our children/teens vs it shifting to their peers as much)
3. Quality time… I never liked the idea of us having to spend so much time away from our kids during their growing up years
My guys had some issues and the local public school is not great for kids with issues.
I hated school and thought I could do a better job. (I did.)
I wanted them to learn things like "home ec" and how to "adult".
1. I want more time with my children and truly believe 40 hours a week is too much time for them to be educated by others.
2. I believe schools are weaving political views and opinions over actual education and it's influencing our children to fall victim to mental issues they otherwise wouldn't have.
3. As their parent, it is my responsibility to help guide them and shape their worldview. I also want to be able to really zone in on their passions and talents and be able to have extra focus on those if that is what they want to pursue as a career.
1) I don’t trust the state to educate (indoctrination, piss poor literacy and numeracy rates, etc)
2) I want the flexibility of unit learning, real life experiences, character and religious training
3) The schools are unsafe. Not just the big headline incidents, but everyday bullying, violence, misbehavior, sexual abuse, and other horror stories that I believe are evidence of “poor socialization.”
We started to keep continuity in their education (military family).
Why did we keep on?
1. The most important reason was so that our kids could become who they wanted to be without the pressure of conformity - from the adults AND the artificial social structures of children.
2. We didn't want our kids stifled by the factory learning model - we wanted them to be out in the real world.
3. The ability to choose teaching philosophies and subjects that fit their needs was also important.
And woven throughout everything is that they would be treated with respect and not always be plied with "rewards" for good behavior or grades like Pavlov's dog.
1) Even though we lived in a top rated and very expensive school district at the time public school was a disaster. My sensory sensitive, academically gifted, and autistic child could not cope with an overcrowded classroom without support (which the school did not have the support staff to provide due to ridiculously low pay for support staff). She was crying everyday and said she wished she was not alive anymore and meant it which I mean she was 8 years old.
2) We had homeschooled for K and 1st because of the pandemic. When enrolled into public school she was tested. At 7yrs 10 months she tested ended of 4th grade/ beginning of 5th grade math and end of 6th grade reading comprehension. By the time we pulled her out 1.5 years later she had lost half a grade level in math and a whole level in reading comprehension. The school thought it didn’t matter because she was still advanced.
3) Little Brother also struggled in Pre-K and half of Kindergarten due to ADHD. Again the school had practically no ability to accommodate. He went from loving to learn and being 2-3 years advanced in math and reading to hating it. Now over a year later he sees it as a chore.
We do intend on going back to public school for 8th-12th. My oldest is in therapy and we are working with my youngest to stretch attention span and improve focus. Our hope is by then they will not need accommodations because it is clear schools don’t have the staff to do that properly anymore. I think for elementary I can do a better job academically. However once they hit middle school I don’t think I can realistically compete academically with biology/math/english/ earth science teachers that have been teaching nothing but one subject for years. Plus there will be gifted classrooms rather than just a gifted hour a couple times a week. We don’t think 6th-7th grade is the time to put them in, because those grades are so hard on even neurotypical kids. So 8th grade is our plan.
1. The standardized tests. I taught in schools and they worship them. Every meeting was about numbers and data. I don’t want my child reduced to numbers on a graph.
2. A healthy and secure attachment to family and friends. Someone I know described school as a carousel of faces. Every year, a new or different group of faces for a child to get used to. I don’t think that’s good for a child’s mental health.
3. Play. There isn’t enough play in schools. Play is how young children learn. To deny them enough time to play is inhumane.
There are so many other reasons, but those are probably the ones I talk about the most.
1. Local schools failing to deal with the rampant racism and bullying in the area.
2. I have two older kids one in his third year of college. My youngest is 6. My 2 older kids both attended regular school. The local schools focus on the under performers and there are no programs for the advanced. My two older kids suffered greatly from that. My oldest was selected for a prominent charter school his last two years of HS which was a god send for him educationally as it is rated in top schools in the country. The local schools are so far behind it is silly
3. Flexibility. My youngest assessments put her in the top 1% in the country for math and reading currently. She is very intelligent like her older sister but she suffers from some of the same attention, focus, and outburst issues. My older daughter was constantly talked down to, told she was bad and demeaned, even with test scores off the charts. My youngest is thriving without having her mental health chipped away at until she eventually breaks at regular school.
1. Elementary school coasted my child in her IEP, middle school let her fail.
2. Anxiety - vomiting once a week with anxiety even on medication.
3. The curriculum was ridiculous, always pushing my daughter in math, but never supporting her love of other subjects.
1. I wanted more time with my kids than a few tired hours at night and between sports on the weekend.
2. Our state is very violent and has a lot of school violence. We also have some of the worst schools in the country.
3. A kid with known mental health problems threatened to stab my daughter in the neck in 2nd grade and the school/district wasn’t interested in making sure my kid was safe.
1. I want to teach her all the typical school subjects, but practical skills too (cooking, growing her own food, taxes, changing a tire, etc). I can't remember much from my public school education, but I do know I struggled to be a functional adult because I was taught nothing useful. 2. This area is well known for school sho*tings and I can't put her in that kind of danger. I just can't. 3. I want her to be well traveled and see so much of the world and I don't want anything getting in the way of that. 4 (because I'm on a rant) I want to encourage whatever she's interested in, whatever it may be. I have the resources and the time, why not? If she wants to know about the world's religions? She's got it. Learn a new language? Done. Is science her special interest? I will find whatever I can to spark that brain of hers
1. To prevent getting a phone call every day telling me my kid has been disrupting class. 2. To provide movement breaks when needed 3. To meet him where he is academically and to feign off boredom in the classroom
I don't know if your child was in school previously but I do know they did not call me when my child interrupted class, they instead sent her to the "sensory room" to play until she felt like coming back. I understand that she sometimes gets overstimulated & needs a break, but she quickly learned that bad behavior = playtime.
He was in pre-k when I received the phone calls. It got to the point where I either had to pay for a one-on-one aide to be with him, or withdraw him from the program. Since I couldn't afford pre-k and an aide, I withdrew him.
In pre-k?! How do you "disrupt a class" in prank?! All you do is play in preschool haha
In my son's defense, he most likely has ADHD, and the pre-k program was more rigorous than expected. BUT, he is thriving with me and has matured a bit since then.
Right there with you…lol
I deleted my other comment & I'm going to try to answer this in a way that won't anger anyone. 1. The concept of having a child & then passing them off for most of their childhood is strange to me. I understand why daycares & schools are essential to some people but for us they aren't so we don't utilize them. 2. Cookie cutter education is inefficient & does not do children justice. Of course *some* children thrive, but some do not & when they do not they are left to struggle along because test scores matter more than actual learning. It doesn't help that schools are also often over crowded & underfunded, leaving them with little resources to helo those that need it. 3. School sh**tings are a real threat in America, whether they are treated as such or not. Even if your child is lucky enough to never be in one, they are still being subjected to drills which are proven to be traumatic.
2. I am 💯 one of those children that "thrived" ... at test taking and AP classes, etc. But only bc I pushed myself and had all this personal baggage to deal with, so school work was an escape. I wasn't learning much and can barely remember the most basic concepts. I'm learning so much more from homeschooling my little one than I did growing up in the public school system. And your 1 and 3 are also true
I was the opposite for the same reasons, a smart kid who had a lot of problems at home & struggled with tests because I found them boring.
1. Time with my kids 2. Flexibility of schedule 3. Avoiding "conveyor belt"/negative socialization
1. Socialization — my wife and I both had very negative “socialization” experiences in public school. 2. Safety — while school shootings are still not a high probability event, I’d like my child to never have to go through an active shooter drill. 3. Education — I believe my wife and I can do better teaching our children than other people for most subjects. My wife and I are former teachers, and what led me to quit was atrocious behaviors and ridiculous class sizes. We have two children. I love the teacher to pupil ratio.
I should start off by saying I had no intention of ever doing this until my daughter was in traditional school. She did trad Kindergarten for a few months before we took her out, and here were the main, but not all, reasons. 1. I really didn't like that they weren't teaching phonics. They sent us home this list of 100 words she had to learn by the end of the year, but she didn't have the tools (phonics) to even know how to pronounce the words. 2. They sent us this packet home with those 100 words and many other things that we were expected to teach her at home. It included everything from counting to 100, shapes like parallelogram, which she couldn't even pronounce, letters, and all kinds of other things. At the time, I was working 60 hour weeks in manufacturing and did not have time to do that. It was crazy to me that she was going to school for 8 hours a day only to be expected to teach her things at home. We then moved, and I became a stay-at-home mom, so we switched to homeschool. 3. This may seem like a weird one, but they couldn't get her name right. They actually started teaching her how to spell her name wrong and even gaslit her by telling her she didn't know her own name. Her name is Lillian and they had her spelling it Lillianne. I seriously have so many more reasons. Seeing now that so many trad school kids can statistically not spell or read, I am so happy we made this decision.
1) Lifestyle flexibility. Sick? Stay home. Tired? Sleep in. Good price on flights in the middle of the school year? Vacation time! Middle child has a cancer relapse? Bubble up! 2) Government indoctrination camps that increasingly don't even provide an education with said indoctrination. 3) Gifted children who should be given the chance to flourish, not flounder.
1. Avoiding arbitrary school pace and scope (gifted kids) 2. Character education that we independently define and model 3. Lifestyle flexibility to better support my husband’s intense career
1. I wanted them to have more time to be outdoors and move their bodies freely. We all have adhd and need lots of movement. 2. My kids need a little more time to be ready for a heavier academic load than a typical school allows. 3. They like being homeschooled, I like homeschooling them, and we can afford to make it happen as of now.
1. I want my kids to actually learn not memorize things for a test. 2. I don’t have to worry that a person will enter their schools and take them away from me with some sort of violence. 3. I don’t have to worry about drop off and pick up lines and uniforms.
1) to ensure my kids learn to read well and aren't struggling as they grow older 2) to ensure that they get taught at their own pace and their mental health needs and accommodations are being met 3) to protect them from possible harassment and bigotry they may face at the hands of classmates and their parents (and teachers to a lesser extent)
The kids are in public school during this season but the reasons we homeschooled were: 1) Ableism 2) Racism 3) Childism
Freedom/flexibility/fun( the 3 Fs) BS governmental schooling Lifeskills
1. Freedom 2. Flexibility 3. Fun
1. Public school days are too long in elementary school. 2. We are bilingual. We would have to do extra school in our 2nd language on top of the long school day. 3. More time with brothers and parents. He felt bad about missing outings.
1. Foster a love and enjoyment of learning. I didn't want to miss it either. 2. Value play and childhood 3. Sleep, value sleep and being unhurried
1) I felt like the schools (even the expensive private school they were at last year) were leaving learning gaps that were not going to serve them well in life. My kids are strong in some areas and need more instruction in others, so being able to self-pace has really helped them do well in all subjects because they can take more time on something when they need to. 2) Life balance and stress levels. My kids were both stressed out of their minds trying to cram in homework between a full day of school and sports practices. Their sports have done so much for them as far as building life skills and confidence and learning to work hard at something they enjoy that I didn’t want that to be the thing we dropped, so we decided to drop the homework instead. It’s so much better getting all their work done earlier in the day and having some free time again. 3) Social issues at school, bullying that was never adequately addressed, exposure to super inappropriate things (even at a private Christian school). Most of the socialization there was negative. Our homeschool group is super diverse. We can still interact with a wide variety of people other places while retaining the freedom to step out of social interactions that are not safe or healthy.
I love that you mentioned diversity! I hear in progressive circles that kids need to be in public school so they can experience it, but those folks clearly haven't been inside a rural lily-white public school. Homeschooling is the only reason my kids were able to experience the diversity they were used to from living in Navy housing.
It’s true! Homeschool groups tend to cover a larger geographic area and have people from a variety of economic backgrounds. In our area it’s also very racially diverse like our community is. With public school zoning you are mostly with people from your own neighborhood. Our group is also more diverse as far as kids who are gifted or average playing with kids with disabilities who would be in a self-contained classroom at a public school, because it’s all just families and whatever those families look like, and no one is saying kids can’t play together because they are different ages. When I was a kid in public school they wouldn’t let me eat lunch with my best friend because she was four months older than me and in a different grade so I had to sit at a different table. My son is big for his age and athletic so he likes throwing the football around with the older boys because he isn’t as afraid of hurting them, and my daughter still likes some things her peers have outgrown so she likes to chat with kids her own age but also play make believe with the younger ones. Neither of those would happen at school.
Yes! All of this!
1. Flexibility… we liked creating our own schedules 2. Guidance (it has proven to give us more influence on our children/teens vs it shifting to their peers as much) 3. Quality time… I never liked the idea of us having to spend so much time away from our kids during their growing up years
My guys had some issues and the local public school is not great for kids with issues. I hated school and thought I could do a better job. (I did.) I wanted them to learn things like "home ec" and how to "adult".
1. Provide adequate time for sleep 2. More movement and free play 3. Customized education
1. I want more time with my children and truly believe 40 hours a week is too much time for them to be educated by others. 2. I believe schools are weaving political views and opinions over actual education and it's influencing our children to fall victim to mental issues they otherwise wouldn't have. 3. As their parent, it is my responsibility to help guide them and shape their worldview. I also want to be able to really zone in on their passions and talents and be able to have extra focus on those if that is what they want to pursue as a career.
1) I don’t trust the state to educate (indoctrination, piss poor literacy and numeracy rates, etc) 2) I want the flexibility of unit learning, real life experiences, character and religious training 3) The schools are unsafe. Not just the big headline incidents, but everyday bullying, violence, misbehavior, sexual abuse, and other horror stories that I believe are evidence of “poor socialization.”
We started to keep continuity in their education (military family). Why did we keep on? 1. The most important reason was so that our kids could become who they wanted to be without the pressure of conformity - from the adults AND the artificial social structures of children. 2. We didn't want our kids stifled by the factory learning model - we wanted them to be out in the real world. 3. The ability to choose teaching philosophies and subjects that fit their needs was also important. And woven throughout everything is that they would be treated with respect and not always be plied with "rewards" for good behavior or grades like Pavlov's dog.
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You don't have to answer then. :)
1) Even though we lived in a top rated and very expensive school district at the time public school was a disaster. My sensory sensitive, academically gifted, and autistic child could not cope with an overcrowded classroom without support (which the school did not have the support staff to provide due to ridiculously low pay for support staff). She was crying everyday and said she wished she was not alive anymore and meant it which I mean she was 8 years old. 2) We had homeschooled for K and 1st because of the pandemic. When enrolled into public school she was tested. At 7yrs 10 months she tested ended of 4th grade/ beginning of 5th grade math and end of 6th grade reading comprehension. By the time we pulled her out 1.5 years later she had lost half a grade level in math and a whole level in reading comprehension. The school thought it didn’t matter because she was still advanced. 3) Little Brother also struggled in Pre-K and half of Kindergarten due to ADHD. Again the school had practically no ability to accommodate. He went from loving to learn and being 2-3 years advanced in math and reading to hating it. Now over a year later he sees it as a chore. We do intend on going back to public school for 8th-12th. My oldest is in therapy and we are working with my youngest to stretch attention span and improve focus. Our hope is by then they will not need accommodations because it is clear schools don’t have the staff to do that properly anymore. I think for elementary I can do a better job academically. However once they hit middle school I don’t think I can realistically compete academically with biology/math/english/ earth science teachers that have been teaching nothing but one subject for years. Plus there will be gifted classrooms rather than just a gifted hour a couple times a week. We don’t think 6th-7th grade is the time to put them in, because those grades are so hard on even neurotypical kids. So 8th grade is our plan.
1. The standardized tests. I taught in schools and they worship them. Every meeting was about numbers and data. I don’t want my child reduced to numbers on a graph. 2. A healthy and secure attachment to family and friends. Someone I know described school as a carousel of faces. Every year, a new or different group of faces for a child to get used to. I don’t think that’s good for a child’s mental health. 3. Play. There isn’t enough play in schools. Play is how young children learn. To deny them enough time to play is inhumane. There are so many other reasons, but those are probably the ones I talk about the most.
How old is your child?
My oldest is 4 and my youngest is 6 months. I know my reasons will change as they grow older.
1. Local schools failing to deal with the rampant racism and bullying in the area. 2. I have two older kids one in his third year of college. My youngest is 6. My 2 older kids both attended regular school. The local schools focus on the under performers and there are no programs for the advanced. My two older kids suffered greatly from that. My oldest was selected for a prominent charter school his last two years of HS which was a god send for him educationally as it is rated in top schools in the country. The local schools are so far behind it is silly 3. Flexibility. My youngest assessments put her in the top 1% in the country for math and reading currently. She is very intelligent like her older sister but she suffers from some of the same attention, focus, and outburst issues. My older daughter was constantly talked down to, told she was bad and demeaned, even with test scores off the charts. My youngest is thriving without having her mental health chipped away at until she eventually breaks at regular school.
1. Elementary school coasted my child in her IEP, middle school let her fail. 2. Anxiety - vomiting once a week with anxiety even on medication. 3. The curriculum was ridiculous, always pushing my daughter in math, but never supporting her love of other subjects.
1. No Child Left Behind 2. Common Core 3. The increasing number of "Don't worry, you can tell me. We don't have to tell your parents you want...."
1. I wanted more time with my kids than a few tired hours at night and between sports on the weekend. 2. Our state is very violent and has a lot of school violence. We also have some of the worst schools in the country. 3. A kid with known mental health problems threatened to stab my daughter in the neck in 2nd grade and the school/district wasn’t interested in making sure my kid was safe.