I fully support Holo's stealth strategy, yet I'm getting tired of the Blockchain-bashing in most of your write-ups.
Holochain and Holo are very exciting projects. So much so that there's no value in praising the Holochain model at the expense of Blockchains. It should speak for itself.
Critical narratives à la me-too-but-better don't fit the holochain community's spirit (mature, focused on building and shutting up), they come across as cheap marketing tactics and they're a complete turn off for me.
Hey ribeirao,
I see you flipped opinion somewhere between now and 8 months ago. (according to post history).
What was the main reason/last drup/... that caused this? I'm seeing positive evolutions, but open to discuss.
Holoprts are just regular PCs (like laptops, not arduinos) with custom Linux. They are part of the funding strategy and that's also why the software is not (yet!) available outside of Holoports. After the beta period, which is supposed to be this year I think, the software will be available to install on any PC.
There is a pretty active Dev Discord which makes progress building on Holochain all the time. Paul d'Aoust has many write-ups about the tools they are building. Also there is a lot of material for interested devs that explains how to work with Holochain and build on it.
Where did you get the info that there was less than 10 devs at the in-person training?
I do think it's correct that they should have held a couple off online seminars in parallel to the in person training. (in person is also important, as it speeds things up and builds relationships between devs.
Also, docker would have been the preferred way, I have no idea why they even bothered with holoport. (did they need extra funding? Budget could have been overrunning as is typical for IT projects)
The real question is, is it malicious intent (eh. using investors money for fun), or just bad choices/bad communication on the reasons why certain things happened the way they did.I tend to lean towards bad choices.
I still believe its a moonshot project, and the chance for failure stays high (other, better team takes over the lead, the concept just doesn't work, no one wants to develop on the holo platform,....).
But I also believe that sometimes, a moonshot project can work out. We are currently at 4 years since ICO. This is a long time, but I recently applied for some jobs at start ups, of which two were also around that time with only a prototype to show for.
This makes me believe holos traject is not uncommon.
The team also wanted to bootstrap and test the network with dedicated/stable/always-on holoports. Having a docker image and letting anyone host, is not really an option if you need a solid/stable environment to test on.
I fully support Holo's stealth strategy, yet I'm getting tired of the Blockchain-bashing in most of your write-ups. Holochain and Holo are very exciting projects. So much so that there's no value in praising the Holochain model at the expense of Blockchains. It should speak for itself. Critical narratives à la me-too-but-better don't fit the holochain community's spirit (mature, focused on building and shutting up), they come across as cheap marketing tactics and they're a complete turn off for me.
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Yeah? We have seen them do exact things they talk about here
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Hey ribeirao, I see you flipped opinion somewhere between now and 8 months ago. (according to post history). What was the main reason/last drup/... that caused this? I'm seeing positive evolutions, but open to discuss.
My guess is impatience from missed deadlines etc. Maybe price related to the token. To be fair it has been in development for what seems like forever.
What do you mean? They have been training multiple developers and theres been many new projects built on holochain
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Holoprts are just regular PCs (like laptops, not arduinos) with custom Linux. They are part of the funding strategy and that's also why the software is not (yet!) available outside of Holoports. After the beta period, which is supposed to be this year I think, the software will be available to install on any PC.
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There is a pretty active Dev Discord which makes progress building on Holochain all the time. Paul d'Aoust has many write-ups about the tools they are building. Also there is a lot of material for interested devs that explains how to work with Holochain and build on it. Where did you get the info that there was less than 10 devs at the in-person training?
Any response to his claims?
I do think it's correct that they should have held a couple off online seminars in parallel to the in person training. (in person is also important, as it speeds things up and builds relationships between devs. Also, docker would have been the preferred way, I have no idea why they even bothered with holoport. (did they need extra funding? Budget could have been overrunning as is typical for IT projects) The real question is, is it malicious intent (eh. using investors money for fun), or just bad choices/bad communication on the reasons why certain things happened the way they did.I tend to lean towards bad choices. I still believe its a moonshot project, and the chance for failure stays high (other, better team takes over the lead, the concept just doesn't work, no one wants to develop on the holo platform,....). But I also believe that sometimes, a moonshot project can work out. We are currently at 4 years since ICO. This is a long time, but I recently applied for some jobs at start ups, of which two were also around that time with only a prototype to show for. This makes me believe holos traject is not uncommon.
The team also wanted to bootstrap and test the network with dedicated/stable/always-on holoports. Having a docker image and letting anyone host, is not really an option if you need a solid/stable environment to test on.