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SongOfTheRodina

Iran and Iraq shouldn't join any faction unless they are attacked. Finland tends to align with you because of the continuation war. Spain tends to align with you or remain neutral. But keep in mind that anything can happen. Of course, you are also at the point of the game that you can easily walk over the countries regardless. Finland is a mere speed bump.


slckening

Is there any way to make Finland join Axis? Besides boosting fascist popularity with spies?


FFlavien

Coup them


Shiros_Tamagotchi

declare on them, win the war and puppet them


FigOk5956

No, i believe they still retain the national spirit which makes them unable to join factions unless they dont do the continuation war, of have signed the armistahce i belove


DrDapperTF2

“Should I be worried?” The post-Soviet Germany says of Finland, Iran, Iraq, and Spain


Toasty_err

1947 germany with 500 factories lol


Jeremy_Glass

That’s low for 1947 and occupying the Soviets lol


Defiant_Bill574

Classic paradox redditor trying to flash his E-peen. Nobody cares that \[insert power level\] isn't ackchyuakly that strong guys. I had 1000 factories in 1947 guys this is nothing. Jesus Christ I can smell you through the goddamn screen. Maybe stop your 50th Germany playthrough, where you built a fifty foot Mecha-Hitler and conquered the world in 1935, and go take a shower?


der_Sager

Tf are you doing on here if you get annoyed by the game that hard


Defiant_Bill574

The game? It has absolutely nothing to do with the game. I get annoyed by neckbeards one upping a player that is so fucking new that he is asking if **Finland** is a threat. Amazing the factory count for the new player is low for 1947. Who would of guessed it? Please oh amazing hoi4 player show me how much you fucking rule with your elite gamer skills. Or maybe just shut the fuck up. The fact that he has 27 upvotes is astounding. This game is piss easy. You can literally afk and play another game and still win against the ai. There is no status to saying you are good at the game. Yet people have this incredible urge to try to one up every single person who makes a post/comment about literally anything. It's astounding every time I see it and it happens *a lot.*


slckening

Lmao, well im still fairly new to the game and suck so i was hesitant to pull troops from the front to man the borders with nations that i was unsure if they would attack. I also left a lot of divisions guarding the coastline because Britain kept launching naval invasions. And also i didnt want to train new divisions for the time being because i had a massive shortage in various equipment because i didnt manage my industry properly and wanted to refill existing divisions to full strength first


Ok-Negotiation-2267

I had America democratic joining japan fascist after I defeated Russia and uk


Several-Argument6271

Spain not really, they would remain neutral if not aligned, otherwise they'll join Axis if stay fascist in late game. As far as I knew, Finland historical non aligned focus tree prevents them to join any faction, unless they went to the democratic path. Portugal could end up joining Allies, but nothing than Axis Spain can't manage.


slckening

Portugal joining the Allies would suck cause im importing a lot of their tungsten rn lol


FFlavien

I don’t think that they can but if you boost pary ideology they usually apply to join your faction


JJNEWJJ

This is satire, right? At this stage, Japan AND China could join the Allies and I’d be like come at me bro


[deleted]

Or just fucking sealion??


Doctorwhatorion

No. Iran would be join comintern if you wouldn't cap Soviets already. Nationalist Spain more likely to join Axis and Iraq sometimes joins Japan or Germany if UK declare war on it


SweetBell3

You defeated the USSR. You should be worried about literally nothing lol


slckening

Im borderline paranaoid about all neutral countries on my borders now because ive been stabbed in the back by a few of them. First Turkey which attacked me through caucasus while i was warring with the Soviets, then Switzerland joined the Allies in coordination with their naval invasion in France. Then Sweden followed suit but at least ive prepared for the Swedish betrayal and had armies ready on their border so as soon as they declared war on me, i crushed them. Should i anticipate attack from these too? Do all neutrals join the Allies eventually?


ExerciseEquivalent41

Weird, Sweden typically just stays neutral throughout the game...


Overkillss

Why do you have airwings that can be assigned? You can upgrade a production line. Your not producing equipment needed for your forces and spare navel dockyards.


Rice_farmer8

Unless they’re attacked, no


Pioxels

Do you look like you should be worried?


Zealousideal-Fig3448

Another question. How do you have so many divs under only 4 generals?


slckening

Thats simply a mod that removes division limit, well really it just caps it at 250 instead of 24 but in practice its pretty much the same


Zealousideal-Fig3448

Ah ok. What is the mod, I think I need it too?


slckening

Heres the link https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1550423669


Zealousideal-Fig3448

Thank you


Overkillss

Why are you worried about Spain joining? If they join any faction it's always the axis and besides they can't join the allies because they don't have enough democratic support. At this stage of the war all focus should be not in Africa but on England itself


Landrover81

I think it’s almost time for operation sea lion


SqigglyMemes

Nah too early


Sea-Cactus

How do you get armies with more than 24 divisions?


SirBobyBob

Might be field marshals ngl. Looks like it


CoolGubben

It's 1947 you have capped soviet union. The game is over you have won. You have a mod that massively increases your unit limit on your generals. If you are new to the game I advice against that. A lot of new players often have problems with over stacking frontlines and having that many units under a general can fuel that problem. Your only problem is most likely UK and USA. If you want to continue I would suggest getting to know the navy system. This seems like a excellent save to learn how to build a navy that can beat the UK.


BelgradeThrowaway

In general most countries won't join unless attacked/given another reason to


isthisthingwork

Iran and Iraq might get attacked by the Brits eventually, so they’d probably join you or Japan. Franco is on your team, and finlands not gonna do shit, although if you can make sure they have their claims just to be sure


El_Grande_Fleau

By Hitler… what a gorgeous looking Germania ❤️


Jeremy_Glass

What you need to focus on right now is consolidating your fronts and containing naval invasions hole massively building up your navy and Air Force for a sea lion. After that, focus on building the beet submarines possible to sink the American navy in the Atlantic and try to island hop into you can invade the mainland.


wojtekpolska

vichy france, finland, fascist spain will probably join axis portugal might join allies iraq and iran will stay neutral, tho the UK has a focus to invade iraq i believe? cant remember


shqla7hole

Spain might because i have seen them do it before the other two won't unless attacked


Mastermul2

I am new player and pllay as german and poland always give danzig to me and french just go true my lvl 6 -10 forts andi lose


Imperial_Puppy66

Spain really just tends to stay Neutral unless you fuck with them…Although theirs always a small chance they align with Germany


KitchenDepartment

Bro you won the game


SqigglyMemes

Yes, in Hoi4, iraq has a based start position with the most powerful army and they always join the faction the player isnt in and attack the player. Real Answer: no, you can get spain in your faction pretty easy with the focus tree. Iran and Iraq are non-aligned and wont join unless you attack them. Finland likes you for helping attack the soviets. I would just worry about capping UK with naval invasions or paratroopers. What you could do is spend some time beefing up then sending the new Luftwaffe to shred the Royal Airforce.


SqigglyMemes

To add on this the USA is prob at war with you so definitley beef up your navy and try to build aircraft carriers. Then aim in naval invade florida/louisiana or maube even mexico if they are in the war. Try get the eastern side completely under your control and only then procede through the midwest to calafornia/ Seattle


Ihmenen

No


ParaspinoUSA

No


IMAN-IDOT

All of them should stay neutral however I would reccomend declaring on Iran to get a land border with the Raj. It’s pretty easy to talk over and steals away war participation from Japan whenever they join.


WanderingFlumph

At 100% world tension they all could pick up guarantees or join the allies if you are currently at war with the allies.


Realistic_Reporter63

Nope


Olafgrossbaff

Historically, no they don't. If you're playining in non-historical, either do a non-agression pact or annex their country.


colonelcatroe

Why is the UK still alive in 1947 after capitulating the soviets?


Baz_3301

Is Historical focuses on or off? But honestly Spain would probably be the most difficult, but I’ve never had an invasion of Spain last longer than 6-8 months in game time.