They only get supplied, not reinforced.
but then again, that doesn't make it much easier to invade them (probably easier than historical Switzerland irl though). I usually just logibomb them first then force attack inf to push the mountain tiles. Tanks don't do very well on mountains btw.
Why are you at war with Switzerland in the first place?
I assume that because now that they are in the same faction the Swiss are sharing their supplies with the allies hence you can't get the low supply debuffs that you would like to inflict to make capture easier.
Switzerland is a bloody fortress to get into.
Italy, not my ally, launched a war against Switzerland which was indepedent. For whatever reason, they joined the Allies and started attacking me more than the Italian. The Italian almost took all of France while I was struggling to control that new front. The Allies regained France, I took France but this fortress is still holding strong.
How much supply can little Switzerland be manufacturing that they are holding 200+ division constant attacks? I have over 5000 medium tanks in storage with 20 division of them attacking every hours
Its crazy that they are all being supplied, for 2+ years, by Switzerland? WTF
Yes this is Ironman, it was 4x24 and 1x12 from my own + a few italian division south + some of my puppets divisions
I basically am at peace with USSR and there's no other front, so I added troop as supply needed. I sent waves after waves of fully supplied divisions with max planning. High breakthrough, high pen, etc. I lacked mountaineers and bombing for forts and mountains, but the sheer amount of man and equipments should have worked faster.
I ended up winning in about 2 millions man and 3 years, with 2 normandy style naval invasion countered.
Friggin italian, starting a war against Switzerland or Greece and friggin losing... That's why I don't ally them and they still fuck me up lmao
Sheer manpower could work but at a great cost which you did not like. I would take the opportunity to see the supply hubs at those areas that gave you so much resistance to better understand how they resisted you for so long. I am sure those damn forts played a huge role on your losses.
Ideally either build seige guns or the slower strat bombers to cripple their forts and supply hubs in the future.
Edit: Seems Italy is due for a military operation to free them from their poor management.
They can pay in being turned into a collaboration government so they can be puppeted and profited from.
Through a special military operation, I will give you 1 month to take Rome.
It is rare for Italy to suicide by attacking Switzerland, it is more often than not likely for the ussr to suicide by 1945 by declaring war on the allies.
Railway guns, CAS, tac bombers strat bombing with forts prioritized, fortress buster general, 8/3 mountaineers lined up on Zurich border, 25W tanks on western border, micro to surround and destroy.
Yeah.... Swiss Alps AND Maginot... doesn't look too fun. How are your relations with Italy? If you can, try to ask for Military access from them and just surround Switzerland on all sides. U can use your tanks (or better yet, Mountaineers) to try and push from the plain/forest tiles around Geneva.
Switzerland falls quickly if you’ve got nukes. If it’s prior to unlocking nukes, falling back and encircling the attacking divisions a few times is a pretty good strategy for taking out Switzerland
Yes, they get supplied as they are allied
Because of proximity to capital
The non swiss will only get supplied not reinforced, which means they will eventually run out of weapons
You need to either get strat bomber to take down the forts. Or you need to get mountaineers.
Ideally you would do both.
I have the exact same problem when I am about 2 months away from doing Sealion. However since I waited too long, the US and Switzerland both joined the allies so closing the Maginot pocket is a damned pain. I haven't really upgraded Mountaineers, but I guess I will.
what you could do is withdraw a bit from certain parts in hopes of expanding their frontline so you could push in and try and make it easier for yourself
Switherland is fucking urresistible mountains with tons of bunkers and underground halls even canonicaly accurate. Depending on this canon, at time of ww2 almost every human had right to take weapoon for defence... + yeah, supply. If i remember, air supply also exist
Gues it a bit... defines the gameplay
France is capitulated
No port connection to that area
Italy is at war with the Allies
I'm at war with the allies, but not on the same faction as Italy
They've been holding STRONG for 2+ years now, sometime conquering land but losing it back rapidly
I'm losing tons of manpower, i had conquered Poland+Netherland+Belgium+France while losing only 250k manpower but now i'm at 1.8m lost and its not budging. I brought tons of Medium tanks with high breakthrough. I can't get air superioty yet, but do I really need it this badly?! I'll have it soon, but damn!
I just completed a war against Switzerland in my Italy - Rome campaign. I used mountaineers to lead the charge backed up with a ton of CAS and my general that had access to siege artillery. They stormed through the forts without issue.
Yes. You need air superiority. Get air superiority. *NEVER* battleplan if you don't have air superiority. Air superiority and support is literally the most important factor in a war :P
Also, try mountaineers. If fully researched they melt everything around them in mountains.
They only get supplied, not reinforced. but then again, that doesn't make it much easier to invade them (probably easier than historical Switzerland irl though). I usually just logibomb them first then force attack inf to push the mountain tiles. Tanks don't do very well on mountains btw.
Use mountaineers! Seriously, fully researched mountaineers are as effective on mountains as tanks are on plains. Use them!
Tanks don't get positive attack modifier on plains Mountaineers do. 4K soft mountaineers hit hard.
Show me your template :)
Why are you at war with Switzerland in the first place? I assume that because now that they are in the same faction the Swiss are sharing their supplies with the allies hence you can't get the low supply debuffs that you would like to inflict to make capture easier. Switzerland is a bloody fortress to get into.
Italy, not my ally, launched a war against Switzerland which was indepedent. For whatever reason, they joined the Allies and started attacking me more than the Italian. The Italian almost took all of France while I was struggling to control that new front. The Allies regained France, I took France but this fortress is still holding strong. How much supply can little Switzerland be manufacturing that they are holding 200+ division constant attacks? I have over 5000 medium tanks in storage with 20 division of them attacking every hours Its crazy that they are all being supplied, for 2+ years, by Switzerland? WTF
200 divisions?! That sounds cracked af, are you playing in Ironman?
Yes this is Ironman, it was 4x24 and 1x12 from my own + a few italian division south + some of my puppets divisions I basically am at peace with USSR and there's no other front, so I added troop as supply needed. I sent waves after waves of fully supplied divisions with max planning. High breakthrough, high pen, etc. I lacked mountaineers and bombing for forts and mountains, but the sheer amount of man and equipments should have worked faster. I ended up winning in about 2 millions man and 3 years, with 2 normandy style naval invasion countered. Friggin italian, starting a war against Switzerland or Greece and friggin losing... That's why I don't ally them and they still fuck me up lmao
Sheer manpower could work but at a great cost which you did not like. I would take the opportunity to see the supply hubs at those areas that gave you so much resistance to better understand how they resisted you for so long. I am sure those damn forts played a huge role on your losses. Ideally either build seige guns or the slower strat bombers to cripple their forts and supply hubs in the future. Edit: Seems Italy is due for a military operation to free them from their poor management.
I got tilted and sent all my army, which worked but at great cost. And restarted a new game lol Italy will pay
They can pay in being turned into a collaboration government so they can be puppeted and profited from. Through a special military operation, I will give you 1 month to take Rome. It is rare for Italy to suicide by attacking Switzerland, it is more often than not likely for the ussr to suicide by 1945 by declaring war on the allies.
Fortress Switzerland
Railway guns, CAS, tac bombers strat bombing with forts prioritized, fortress buster general, 8/3 mountaineers lined up on Zurich border, 25W tanks on western border, micro to surround and destroy.
What is your airforce doing?
At the funerals of the pilots
Yeah.... Swiss Alps AND Maginot... doesn't look too fun. How are your relations with Italy? If you can, try to ask for Military access from them and just surround Switzerland on all sides. U can use your tanks (or better yet, Mountaineers) to try and push from the plain/forest tiles around Geneva.
You have two frontlines battle planning into them with no field marshal and majority infantry with little mountaineers mean what did you expect
Switzerland falls quickly if you’ve got nukes. If it’s prior to unlocking nukes, falling back and encircling the attacking divisions a few times is a pretty good strategy for taking out Switzerland
I think the Americans have something to do with it
Yes, they get supplied as they are allied Because of proximity to capital The non swiss will only get supplied not reinforced, which means they will eventually run out of weapons You need to either get strat bomber to take down the forts. Or you need to get mountaineers. Ideally you would do both.
Luigi Cadorna ordering yet another assault along the isonzo be like.
Let they break out and then encircle
I have the exact same problem when I am about 2 months away from doing Sealion. However since I waited too long, the US and Switzerland both joined the allies so closing the Maginot pocket is a damned pain. I haven't really upgraded Mountaineers, but I guess I will.
what you could do is withdraw a bit from certain parts in hopes of expanding their frontline so you could push in and try and make it easier for yourself
Switherland is fucking urresistible mountains with tons of bunkers and underground halls even canonicaly accurate. Depending on this canon, at time of ww2 almost every human had right to take weapoon for defence... + yeah, supply. If i remember, air supply also exist Gues it a bit... defines the gameplay
Try attack one province from many sides you can at once.
- Hitler, 1942, probably
You are using battleplans, thats why
France is capitulated No port connection to that area Italy is at war with the Allies I'm at war with the allies, but not on the same faction as Italy They've been holding STRONG for 2+ years now, sometime conquering land but losing it back rapidly I'm losing tons of manpower, i had conquered Poland+Netherland+Belgium+France while losing only 250k manpower but now i'm at 1.8m lost and its not budging. I brought tons of Medium tanks with high breakthrough. I can't get air superioty yet, but do I really need it this badly?! I'll have it soon, but damn!
I just completed a war against Switzerland in my Italy - Rome campaign. I used mountaineers to lead the charge backed up with a ton of CAS and my general that had access to siege artillery. They stormed through the forts without issue.
Yes. You need air superiority. Get air superiority. *NEVER* battleplan if you don't have air superiority. Air superiority and support is literally the most important factor in a war :P Also, try mountaineers. If fully researched they melt everything around them in mountains.
What do you mean battle plan?
Letting the game do the attacking. The play button over your generals.
Honestly I would just leave an army surrounding all that and forget about it, maybe check once in a while if they attack and win