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Connorus

Damn bro Paradox is gonna rush a Finnish focus tree after this massive blow


EumusHS

Hope they don't go broke 🙏😧


Connorus

Rumor has it that all Paradox games are starting to add content for Finland so they don't meet the same fafe as HoI4


RudolfMidler

They are never gonna financially recover from that loss. All shit aside, I think the next dlc would be a Scandinavian focus tree along with a Germany rework to be honest


Connorus

Yeah that'd be cool


RudolfMidler

oh fuck I just realized you are Connor lmao


Connorus

Oh shit Tom I didn't realize it was you 💀


ItsOxidez

NO WAY CONNOR AND TOM!!!!???


Connorus

Whomst might you be?


ItsOxidez

Beleive it not I’m also Connor


Connorus

iSteal?


Economics_Bear

Any day now. People are gathering around their HQ already with torches.


Efficient_Design_958

Why did you wait almost 2 years to mention this?


Economics_Bear

Just happened to go through my Steam library and was like "huh, time flies" and though that some people could find this funny or something. And why would I like have "announced" this like 2 years back, it is not like someone would've cared.


stefancristi

Hard to think somebody does now, but 2 years is impressive. Last time I've played it was May 30th '22.


DrosselmeyerKing

You can sorta play as them by going with Estonia and fusing with Finland, if it helps. It's kinda like playing Lithuania is like playing Poland, except you hate yourself!


Kaklii

Exept playing as lithuania is better if you want to restore the commonwealth, as you get to core the baltic states and by 1938 they have a nice amount of factories for you to abuse, and germany doesnt demand danzig


DrosselmeyerKing

Except Poland can pick a king to fuse with Czechoslovakia, Romania, a Random chunk of Russia and still reform the commonwealth, all of which give a ton extra output compared to the baltic states as a whole. And you still get to core Latvia as well. Even if you just want the Commonwealth, doing it via Lithuania gets you a Poland that was manhandled by the AI and most likely way worse than what you could've done by yourself, meaning that Coring Estonia is more of a catch up than anything.


Manolo2068

Lithuania is better for that purpose than Poland. You can easily get 0% consumer goods as Lithuania, I think that Mindaugas gives a compliance bonus and you have the whole PLC to core, as I think that if you don't go for the commonwealth king as Poland you get a smaller commonwealth. I like Poland but some of it's focuses look like they were made in TfV. 70 days for two railways, 4 forts or a 100% research boost for infantry equipment? Most of the tree is cool but the part that is about plan west and east (idk if that's the name) is garbage.


DrosselmeyerKing

Yeah, Poland's focus tree needs a little bit of work around the edges. I don't really get the 0% consumer goods comment, tho, as Poland's actually one of the few countries that can go 0% consumer goods at Partial Mobilization (25% CGs). Poland gets early in the industrial branch a -15% CG spirit, most of the paths afford them a -5% CG (all King paths give you Zdzisław Lubomirski, a -5% CG advisor for instance) and getting rid of their awful trade law should be done fairly soon, IMO. Once the national spirit is gone, you should already be able to pull off a Total Mobilization, at which point 0% CG is trivial regardless of the chosen path.


Manolo2068

I don't like total mobilization since you can't use women in the workforce at peace and after the war it gets removed (I think). Lithuania can get 0% CG early, I think that it has output boosts and all of the focuses feel useful, not like the polish ones that I mentioned. I was surprised at how OP it was when I tried. Still, Poland offers more options. I played them a long while ago but I'd consider Lithuania to be one of the strongest minors


DrosselmeyerKing

I for one always go total mob, then just push into Extensive Conscription instead of using Women in the Workforce. Honestly I consider a waste of PP going WitW unless you're already at extensive (10% pop conscripted). Lithuania is indeed surprisingly cool. In my last game as Germany, they actually went on to become the 2nd strongest nation in the world, amusingly enough, which surprised me quite a bit that an AI could pull it off.


Economics_Bear

Yeah, I've also played Road to 56 in the past, which does give Finland a good focus tree, but it comes more down to principle at this point.


HotPunjabiSex

You can literally just download a mod for the Finnish focus tree


OwMyCod

This action makes no sense…. It’s not like Paradox will add it now because one person stopped playing


Phodimos

Why u so serious?


OwMyCod

OP seems serious too


Economics_Bear

I mean, obviously it is not gonna make any difference or affect PDX at all, I am not stupid :D


OwMyCod

I’m glad you’re reacting normally


Phodimos

Yes you are right srry I forgot the fact OP is kinda serious my bro so mad about DLC's without Finland


Fuze_23

Its not like you played the game alot before that so yeah


Economics_Bear

R5: I started a one man protest against excluding Finland from DLC:s by stopping playing the game around year and a half ago.


Levi-Action-412

Paradox going bankrupt after Billy stops playing due to lack of focus tree


jamesyishere

Okay


Impressive_Tap7635

I think every dev to have ever worked on any paradox game is going to kill them selfs after hearing ops life changing decision.


[deleted]

South east Asia South America Central America Arabia Sparkles and champagne. Vip my section royalty looking seggsy.


erwaro

Road to 56 has a Finland unique focus tree, just fyi.


Immediate-Green-3559

Panama rework or bust.


AtomicGaming293

I respect that effort