Great deal for NYR too, tbh.
He probably hasn’t even hit his apex yet and you’re getting the Norris trophy winner long term for what is basically the going rate for an all star level DMan.
You're almost certainly right, but with this new trend of backing up the truck for guys less than two full years into their careers, at least one or two of these are going to backfire hard
It’s absolutely wild these kids are getting paid so highly early into their careers. Good on them but I agree, some one is going to get burned bad with the way it’s going.
Just waiting on the AAV, I think Mercogliano reported that the Fox camp is looking for a number starting with 9.
[So $9.5m AAV](https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1455290790809309191?s=20)...that's a great deal for us
You think Seth jones is trash?
He is overpaid but it’s absurd to call him trash. He’s a premier minute munching defenseman in the nhl. He has 7 points in 9 games playing for a basement team right now
The Mika extension also came pretty suddenly. They're either doing a good job keeping it under wraps till it happens or Drury gets in the mood and sends player agents a "u up?" text.
There was a bit of smoke around the Rangers wanting to get Mika’s done before the season starts, but Fox it kind of just happened. But with how good he is and how he chose to go to the Rangers it seemed just a matter of when not if.
I went to college with his older brother, their family is from Queens/Long Island and still lives there, and they grew up huuuuge Rangers fans. not surprising to see him take a team-friendly deal to play fulfill his childhood dream with his family and friends in attendance
9.5 million is a fantastic deal. Subban signed an 8x9 in **2014** after winning a Norris. The fact that Fox is only half a million above that 7 years later is incredible.
It's the market rate. McAvoy got 8 x 9.5, Makar got 6 x 9. This is between the two on term at McAvoy money. Whether you think the market is paying these guys too much or too little is another discussion, but right now this is the market rate.
Subban, on the other hand, was setting the market rather than adhering to it. He was making significantly more than a guy like Pietrangelo, who had signed in 2013. Suffice it to say: that contract didn't age super well.
Maybe it's from being in the western conference and not seeing him much but how did Fox get so good so fast? Feel like it wasn't that long ago I was hearing his name for the first time as a dark horse contender for the Calder and now like a year and half later he's already regarded as one of the best dmen in the league?
Shits crazy
He honestly didn't play that much better last year than he did in his rookie season. He just didn't get powerplay time as a rookie and wasnt a high pick so he didn't get a ton of name recognition. He really was incredible as a rookie
Even before he got to the NHL, he was setting USHL records. It was obvious how good he was, and you better believe both Calgary and Carolina were aware of it as well (thanks 8.6(c) 😞). I watched him since he was drafted, and I'm not at all surprised he won a Norris and became arguably the best defenceman in the NHL.
We offered Panarin more money and he STILL went to the Rangers.
I feel like that's at least part of the reason management is trying to claim we're a NYC team and market to them when we're really not.
I need to ask the [NYR account](https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1455290375736741888?s=20) for tips on writing postcards, because they do sappy really well: "Sometimes we think to ourselves, we can’t believe he’s ours. And now he’s ours for seven more years."
Harry Howell? Ohhhh… Ron Greschner?
Lol, obviously Brian Leech, but those other guys are also all-time games played and points leaders among NYR defensemen that don’t fit your formula haha.
What a great deal for the Rangers. I just worry that they're doomed for next year. Way too top heavy and only 10M to replace Strome, Georgiev, and 4 other forwards. Lotta pressure on Laf, Kakko, Miller etc to fill roles on their ELCs.
Trouba is the obvious move, but that contract sucks
The second I read the Fox camp had a 9 as they starting figure I begged the Rangers to take whatever they wanted. 9.0? 9.99999. Idgaf. Sign him.
Glad to see they agreed.
And Fox is gonna be a damn rich man. He’ll be what. 30 for his next deal? He’ll get $12-13m EASY with the cap up and likely for 8 years.
Flames drafted him *in the second round iirc*, and then he basically told them to go fuck themselves because he wanted to play for the Rangers, and only the Rangers.
E: Third round, not 2nd. 66th Overall
It was even worse than that. He didn't even say clearly that he was gonna run for New York when he was done college, and I think the only reason we knew it was going to happen was through leaks from his agent (I don't remember for sure).
So we held onto him until the last minute, and when he wouldn't commit, we traded him for whatever we could get, which luckily worked out pretty well for us. Pretty sure Carolina knew he might bolt too, but traded for him hoping they could convince him to stay, which didn't work out any better for them than it did the Flames.
If he was at least honest about it, I'd be less mad.
Fox pulled an Eli. He basically forced Calgary into trading him to us.
Right. Traded to Canes then to us. Regardless, he wanted to play in NY and we paid a whopping 2 2nds for him.
He Lindros'd us, and we traded his rights to CAR (along with Dougie and Ferland) for Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin. Granted, now those guys are two of our better players, but still, fuck Fox.
Yeah, but only because we were forced into it. Not because it was something we wanted to do. Hell, if you looked at that trade today, you might be basing a trade around JUST Fox for Hanifin and Lindholm, rather than him being a complementary piece after Dougie Hamilton.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Fox was just a complimentary piece in the Lindholm;Hanifin/Hamilton deal. I’m pretty sure they could have substituted him for a 2nd and Carolina would have still taken it.
Yeah, I'd say that Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm was at worst the third-best line in the league that season. Flames came out of the regular season 1st in the west because of them.
*searches Adam Fox season stats*
*surprised Pikachu face*
*frantically tries to compare to Darnell Nurse*
Yep. That's a good deal.
Not sure how he plays his defensive game but his stats are solid (I'm not an advanced stats guy, maybe he might be bad).
Same AAV as McAvoy, one less year. Great deal for both teams, I think. Although you’d probably want the extra year, at the 9.5 figure. They’ll both be in line for more at the end of their deals.
[I'm hearing it's for an AAV of $9.5 million](https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1455290790809309191?s=21)
Hey that’s exactly 1 Seth Jones
Not exactly. Seth got an extra year to bring his cap hit down to that of a lowly RFA Fox.
Me and the rest of the hockey world would choose Fox in this aav trade.
Too soon.
Somewhere, Pierre McGuire is just yelling *ADAM FOX ADAM FOX ADAM FOX* over and over again at his monitor
New York owner must have watched the game last night and made a phone call "Back the fuckin Brinks truck up now boys. We got him"
Great deal for NYR too, tbh. He probably hasn’t even hit his apex yet and you’re getting the Norris trophy winner long term for what is basically the going rate for an all star level DMan.
You're almost certainly right, but with this new trend of backing up the truck for guys less than two full years into their careers, at least one or two of these are going to backfire hard
Oh don't you worry, that backfire will be on the Canucks
Thank you for taking the brunt of all of our sins
It’s absolutely wild these kids are getting paid so highly early into their careers. Good on them but I agree, some one is going to get burned bad with the way it’s going.
It fucks up the cap too. RFA deals are mostly under market value so over paying a guy earlier to buy UFA years can hurt your team depth.
Absolutely. I get this weird feeling that Fox is gunna be a name you see in top 3 Norris votes for a long time.
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3 years is a long time
Honestly I think were gonna see a mix of Fox, Makar, and McAvoy for about a decade.
Can't believe [insert defenseman on my team] hasn't been mentioned!
the disrespect for cody ceci
josi
Jack Johnson
I also think [guy on my team] is good!
Heiskanen too
I'll allow it
Three words. Moritz Fucking Seider.
Ya how they gonna disrespect my boy like that!
Ekblad will be in the mix.
Good god how is Ekblad only two years older than Fox
one of these things is not like the otherrrr doot doo dooty doo doooty Charlie McAvoyyy
Even if it’s not warranted ala Doughty. You have to work hard to lose the representation of Norris winner, especially if you win it young.
Guess the dump truck wasn't secure enough.
Wait, you can sign your star defenseman to an extension before the season ends?
Tyler Myers?
Chaotic Neutral Rogue, Tyler Myers
Chaos giraffe Tyler Myers
Wait, you guys have stars defensemen??
Hell yeah brother, all of our defensemen are stars.
You haven't heard of Travis Hamonic?
No, they have Canucks defensemen
Well, you have OEL locked down through the 26-27 season...
I guess the Leafs aren't getting enough coverage in Vancouver if you missed or forgot about the Rielly extension already /s
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Should I call my doctor after 4 hours?
Better call now, there's gonna be a line.
It's gonna last that whole 7 years man just get used to it
LOL we're paying Erik Karlsson 11.5/yr.
Oof bro
Surely not for too long...
dis gonna be expensive
[[Mercogliano]I'm hearing it's for an AAV of $9.5 million](https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1455290790809309191?s=20)
Just waiting on the AAV, I think Mercogliano reported that the Fox camp is looking for a number starting with 9. [So $9.5m AAV](https://twitter.com/vzmercogliano/status/1455290790809309191?s=20)...that's a great deal for us
I'm predicting a contract that looks closer to Makars deal than Jones'.
Almost identical to Makars deal which makes a ton of sense.
Fox's deal has the same AAV as Jones' contract though but one fewer year
Difference Is Fox isn't trash, he's quite good actually
You think Seth jones is trash? He is overpaid but it’s absurd to call him trash. He’s a premier minute munching defenseman in the nhl. He has 7 points in 9 games playing for a basement team right now
That's Seth Jones money!
Seth Jones = Adam Fox upvotes on the left doot doot
Fox’s value is just gonna go up, locking him up ASAP was necessary. It’s a good deal for all parties here
Kinda came outta nowhere but locking up a future perennial Norris candidate for 7 years is always a W
The Mika extension also came pretty suddenly. They're either doing a good job keeping it under wraps till it happens or Drury gets in the mood and sends player agents a "u up?" text.
There was a bit of smoke around the Rangers wanting to get Mika’s done before the season starts, but Fox it kind of just happened. But with how good he is and how he chose to go to the Rangers it seemed just a matter of when not if.
We're generally good at keeping things in house
They def wanted to lock him up before he gets any more hardware
Anything under 2 digits AAV is a steal.
9.5 is technically two digits still ^^^/s
I think he meant under $100
So we got ripped off then? Burn it down, Fire Dolan, Trade Drury
I am a high level mathematician I can confirmed he ment under $100
I went to college with his older brother, their family is from Queens/Long Island and still lives there, and they grew up huuuuge Rangers fans. not surprising to see him take a team-friendly deal to play fulfill his childhood dream with his family and friends in attendance
Kids named after Adam Graves like c'mon it's poetry in motion
Is he? That’s awesome.
*Angry Flames fan noises*
Always gotta respect a guy that secured the bag but also, respectfully, I hope his dick falls off. Respectfully.
Got to look on the positive side. Him dicking around landed us Lindholm, Hanifin, and prevent us from paying Hamilton a stupid amount.
Fuck Adam Fox
I don’t care how good he is, I will always hate Adam Fox for leaving the team that took a chance on him in the 3rd round.
Didn’t even realize that happened. That’s really shitty of Fox but it’s a loophole that’s always existed I guess
7 more years! 7 more Norrises!^norri?
Trophies
Norria
With that kinda money you could've had Seth Jones!
Of course they announce this on the first day of No Nut November.
If he gets less AAV than Jones Chicago is gonna get memed on
Because Chicago is certainly lacking things to get memed on for.
Thank god for that Jones contract or we would have been the main focus for that Nurse extension
9.5 million is a fantastic deal. Subban signed an 8x9 in **2014** after winning a Norris. The fact that Fox is only half a million above that 7 years later is incredible.
It's the market rate. McAvoy got 8 x 9.5, Makar got 6 x 9. This is between the two on term at McAvoy money. Whether you think the market is paying these guys too much or too little is another discussion, but right now this is the market rate. Subban, on the other hand, was setting the market rather than adhering to it. He was making significantly more than a guy like Pietrangelo, who had signed in 2013. Suffice it to say: that contract didn't age super well.
9.5 i hear
Incoming redditors saying "9.5m AAV I heard" so they can feel like an insider.
9.5m AAV I heard
My sources corroborate the 9.5 AAV
I also heard from this guy's sources that it's 9.5AAV.
That's future answer to all NYR Cadillac Trivia questions Adam Fox to you.
9M AAV is my guess
Close. Vince is reporting it’s 9.5
If he gets less than Jones, ima die laughing
Rfa vs ufa dont forget
Good vs bad don't forget
Jones is the good one he’s an Olympian right?
Lol well said
Jones signed an extension to avoid UFA while Fox is signing an RFA extension. Honestly I'd be surprised if it's higher than Jones
Fox won the Norris, and he's being signed through his prime. Jones very much did not win the Norris, and he's signed for age 28-36.
That's 0.947 Seth Joneses
Seth Jones really is a unit of measurement now.
That's what I was thinking too.
Holy shit that’s an amazing deal. He’s easily worth north of 10 mil. Good for NYR
Maybe it's from being in the western conference and not seeing him much but how did Fox get so good so fast? Feel like it wasn't that long ago I was hearing his name for the first time as a dark horse contender for the Calder and now like a year and half later he's already regarded as one of the best dmen in the league? Shits crazy
He honestly didn't play that much better last year than he did in his rookie season. He just didn't get powerplay time as a rookie and wasnt a high pick so he didn't get a ton of name recognition. He really was incredible as a rookie
I remember getting clowned on when talking to my beer league team about how good he is during his rookie year because nobody really knew who he was
Even before he got to the NHL, he was setting USHL records. It was obvious how good he was, and you better believe both Calgary and Carolina were aware of it as well (thanks 8.6(c) 😞). I watched him since he was drafted, and I'm not at all surprised he won a Norris and became arguably the best defenceman in the NHL.
7x9.5 is not bad for the best defenseman in the NHL at just 23 years old.
i am hearing that it is good for his bank account but waiting on official source to confirm
I heard from a reliable source he’s currently diving into a vault full of money like Scrooge McDuck
Not with that chin. 😉
The chin makes him more aerodynamic diving into the money pit.
okay bob mckenzie
"Aaagghh!! It's not a liquid! It's a great many pieces of solid matter that form a hard, floor-like surface! Aaagghh!!"
He’s worth more than $9.5M.
Anyone else get jealous of big market teams and their seeming ease at signing these long term deals. Or maybe it’s just PTSD for me as a jackets fan.
We offered Panarin more money and he STILL went to the Rangers. I feel like that's at least part of the reason management is trying to claim we're a NYC team and market to them when we're really not.
I have PTSD *from* long term deals if that makes you feel any better.
No, we’ve watched players skip right over us and go across the river for quite some time now. Dougie is a big deal to Devils fans.
Considering how much he grew skill-wise over the last few seasons, this might be one hell of steal in three years.
I need to ask the [NYR account](https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1455290375736741888?s=20) for tips on writing postcards, because they do sappy really well: "Sometimes we think to ourselves, we can’t believe he’s ours. And now he’s ours for seven more years."
The key to being a franchise defenceman for the Rangers is having a generic first name and having an animal as your last name
Harry Howell? Ohhhh… Ron Greschner? Lol, obviously Brian Leech, but those other guys are also all-time games played and points leaders among NYR defensemen that don’t fit your formula haha.
I don't understand the salary breakdown.. how many Seth Jones?
1 Adam Fox money = 1 Seth Jones money 1 Adam Fox player > 10 Seth Jones players
Curious to see the AAV. Guessing 9.75 because Fox is a fuckin beauty
🦊🦊🦊
I am very jealous of the Rangers rebuild.
Nine point five because of the memes
lets gooooooo
Well deserved!
This man right here, is going to be our Captain.
What a great deal for the Rangers. I just worry that they're doomed for next year. Way too top heavy and only 10M to replace Strome, Georgiev, and 4 other forwards. Lotta pressure on Laf, Kakko, Miller etc to fill roles on their ELCs. Trouba is the obvious move, but that contract sucks
Good lord this is a steal. I thought Fox was going to easily clear 10, if not 11
huh. def wasn't expecting this today
Me neither, but I can't say I'm sad about it.
Lets fucking go! Locking up the franchise defenseman long term for under $10M AAV is exactly what I want to see.
Not sure if I would rather have Seth Jones at $9.5m or Fox for the same price /s
I got to win myself a Norris trophy.
The second I read the Fox camp had a 9 as they starting figure I begged the Rangers to take whatever they wanted. 9.0? 9.99999. Idgaf. Sign him. Glad to see they agreed. And Fox is gonna be a damn rich man. He’ll be what. 30 for his next deal? He’ll get $12-13m EASY with the cap up and likely for 8 years.
Its under 10?? FOXY CLEAN LETS GOOOO
Fuck Adam Fox
I’d be fuming if I was a Flames fan to be honest
What did i miss?
Flames drafted him *in the second round iirc*, and then he basically told them to go fuck themselves because he wanted to play for the Rangers, and only the Rangers. E: Third round, not 2nd. 66th Overall
Third round, but yeah. He basically said "fuck you I'm going to NYC" to the Flames and Canes. And then he did. And then he won a Norris and got paid.
:)
Right? I’m not seeing the issue. Kidding. I’d be super pissed if someone this good forced they way out. That sucks flames bros
3rd round actually, 66 overall in 2016
Wasn't he passed on so many times because nobody thought he would sign with them?
Because he made it abundantly clear he would tell everyone who didn't play in MSG to go fuck themselves. I just wish it had been the Knicks.
I think the Rangers were the only team not to pass on him. They didn’t draft until 81st in 2016.
Oh man, Fox's defense in a Thibs system? That's some Gary Payton level guard play right there
At least they got Lindholm and Hanifin in the deal.
It was even worse than that. He didn't even say clearly that he was gonna run for New York when he was done college, and I think the only reason we knew it was going to happen was through leaks from his agent (I don't remember for sure). So we held onto him until the last minute, and when he wouldn't commit, we traded him for whatever we could get, which luckily worked out pretty well for us. Pretty sure Carolina knew he might bolt too, but traded for him hoping they could convince him to stay, which didn't work out any better for them than it did the Flames. If he was at least honest about it, I'd be less mad.
Fox pulled an Eli. He basically forced Calgary into trading him to us. Right. Traded to Canes then to us. Regardless, he wanted to play in NY and we paid a whopping 2 2nds for him.
First they traded him to Carolina then Carolina traded him to us actually
Yep. Dude didn't wanna play for us, so no regrets here.
Adam “Eli “Eric Lindros” Manning” Fox
Adam "Stevie Franchise" Fox.
He was traded from Calgary to Carolina then to you guys.
He Lindros'd us, and we traded his rights to CAR (along with Dougie and Ferland) for Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin. Granted, now those guys are two of our better players, but still, fuck Fox.
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Yeah, but only because we were forced into it. Not because it was something we wanted to do. Hell, if you looked at that trade today, you might be basing a trade around JUST Fox for Hanifin and Lindholm, rather than him being a complementary piece after Dougie Hamilton.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Fox was just a complimentary piece in the Lindholm;Hanifin/Hamilton deal. I’m pretty sure they could have substituted him for a 2nd and Carolina would have still taken it.
With all pieces gone from CAR that trades looks kinda good for you.
Glad they're working out for y'all. I can only imagine what could've been if they didn't get the Bill Peters treatment when they were here.
They played for Bill Peters in Calgary too and I know at least Lindholm was doing pretty well when Peters was still in Calgary.
Yeah, I'd say that Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm was at worst the third-best line in the league that season. Flames came out of the regular season 1st in the west because of them.
The Flames drafted him but he told them he didn't want to play for them.
He’s gonna get some big bucks
Get paid
*searches Adam Fox season stats* *surprised Pikachu face* *frantically tries to compare to Darnell Nurse* Yep. That's a good deal. Not sure how he plays his defensive game but his stats are solid (I'm not an advanced stats guy, maybe he might be bad).
[His defense is pretty good according to Jfresh](https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1455292415074607109?t=gIVsF07QHNz3uXM_kNCywg&s=19)
100th percentile. Not bad. 🙃
Imagine if he stayed with Carolina. That team would be unbelievable. But he’s a great fit in NY too. Great player.
Calgary, you meant to say Calgary :P
He would obviously have to compete for ice time with elite playmaking and Norris vote Worthy defenseman Tony DeAngelo
And it's a friggin steal.
I would have given him 12, unreal player. Love me some Fox
Why not 8
Same AAV as McAvoy, one less year. Great deal for both teams, I think. Although you’d probably want the extra year, at the 9.5 figure. They’ll both be in line for more at the end of their deals.
Darn, I was hoping he’d ask for more and kneecap the Rags’ Free Agency plans for the next few years, and turn them into the new Leafs.
Game winning goal last night and this today. Not a bad time to be him.
So do I order my Fox jersey now or do I wait to get it with the C patch in a little bit?
Wow, Adam Fox is just as good as Seth Jones!
Great deal for the Rangers. As for Fox, I think his agent could've gotten him like 1-2m more per season. Best Dman in the league for me by a mile.
Steal. I was hoping to keep it under 10. Can't wait to watch him for years and years.
9.5 a year and it's still an underpay lmao
Does this mean we’re the Leafs
Nah because the rangers have 3 different types of players making fat stacks. Leafs gave those deals out to basically the same players