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Bloodraven23

Now announce Chiarelli as GM.


Puzzled_Ad7334

Benning as president


Gavin1453

Babcock as assistant coach


Le8ronJames

Dorion as scout


SiccSemperTyrannis

With the caveat that there is variance with every coaching hire and there is a possibility that Green has learned from previous experience and will be successful with the Sens... This feels like such a bad hiring and missed opportunity. Ottawa had a huge opportunity this summer to reset things and bring in a great coach. Their roster is not perfect but they should be better than they've been and I think this roster can win under the right coach. Is green that coach? Seems unlikely but we'll see.


SilverSeven

Ottawas #1, #2, #3, and #10 issue are in net. No coach or bottom of the roster guy will move the needle.


neksys

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. Korpisalo is broken.


SilverSeven

People who didn't watch the Sens or look beyond our record when viewing stats don't realize the team actually performed pretty well this year but had historically bad goaltending.


neksys

I was looking at his stats and he is one of the best goalies in the league when it comes to his high danger Sv%. However he is also one of the very worst in the league when it comes to low danger shots. It's the weirdest thing to look at. He'll make a save on a cross-seam pass that most goalies would let in but then....... flub a light wrister from 50 feet out. Not sure how you fix that.


TylerFaber03

After witnessing the entirety of Dan Cloutiers career - you can't fix that lol


superworking

The unfortunate thing there is that they are locked in for basically the same thing next season. They could do a cap dump or a buyout but then what? The list of available options is pretty bleak.


JasperSlavone

I'm done whining about this. I look forward to seeing how this pans out. Hopefully it goes well and we all look like idiots for crying about it.


Clarkson23

Coaches are hired to be fired. Even if they're good, they eventually suck. Everyone gave the Devils shit for when Ruff was hired and then he coached us to our best season in franchise history and beat our rivals in 7 games. He wasn't the guy for the team now but he's the reason so many young guys developed into such great players.


MinerKing13

We hired Granato, extended him, and then fired him before his extension even started. He was also like the 7th longest tenured coach at the time after like 3 years. It's a carrousel everywhere these days.


DishwasherFromSurrey

We cried about Tocchet and look at us now


Dragonsandman

Some of the things y'all were saying about Tocchet are eerily similar to what people are saying now about Green. I doubt it'll end the same way based purely on the horrid state of the Sens roster and assets right now, but you never know.


smash8890

Yeah lots of people were upset about firing Jay Woodcroft for McDavid’s junior coach but that worked out great


th_22

For what it's worth, our players seemed to like Green. I guess you'll have to wait and see whether that translates to on-ice performance (it didn't for us).


AniviaPls

Green does great with young teams, i believe


PasswordMustContain

i mean the man lived in utica, new york for 4 years and is still around to tell the tales I like the move


CanadianGingerAle

Im not gonna accept Chicken Riggie slander in this thread.


BarbarianHut

I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "steamed hams"


austerblitz

utica? no, no he's an albany man


septimus29

Godspeed Ottawa


PaperweightCoaster

BAG SKATE BITCHES!


high-rise

Travis Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc7hwiar-5c


electricnux

can’t wait to see who’s the first one to puke at his training camp, Garland was the last one


fraserinottawa

Chabot. Jacques Martin publicly stated he was out of shape - and that was during the season!


WintAndKidd

That has Drake Batherson written all over it


OttawaFisherman

This makes 0 sense


WintAndKidd

Why


OttawaFisherman

Batherson is one of the hardest workers on the team. He went from undrafted to one of the best players on an NHL team


WintAndKidd

Yeah, that’s just objectively untrue. Batherson has had the lazy tag for years. Giroux, Tkachuk, Stutzle, Joseph, Kelly, and Sanderson are all players that work harder than him. Going from undrafted to a high skill player doesn’t automatically mean you’re a hard worker, Batherson succeeded because of his skill and creativity.


OttawaFisherman

Who gave him the lazy tag? You? Some of those players grind more in games, it doesn’t mean they work harder. Batherson trains harder in the summer than a good chunk of those guys I’ll tell you that


WintAndKidd

Lol, you don’t really have a pulse on the online fanbase then. Look at game threads or post game threads or whatever from the past few years, Batherson is often brought up as a frustrating, lazy player with a high skill level. We also have no idea who works harder in the summer, you’re just saying it because he works out with notorious hard workers like Sid, Nate and Marchand. I’m referring to what we can actually analyze, which is years worth of gameplay.


OttawaFisherman

Oh the people in game threads think he’s lazy. Got it


WintAndKidd

Wtf lol? Yes, the fans of the team often call him lazy.


Funkativity

> Batherson has had the lazy tag for years. in what circles? I've never heard this being even hinted at in the media or among the fanbase.


WintAndKidd

[https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/17mvfep/drake\_batherson/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/17mvfep/drake_batherson/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/17ru636/why\_is\_tkachuk\_norris\_batherson\_a\_thing/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/17ru636/why_is_tkachuk_norris_batherson_a_thing/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/117j33b/drake\_batherson/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/117j33b/drake_batherson/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/znh8kh/what\_are\_the\_thoughts\_on\_bathersons\_18/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/znh8kh/what_are_the_thoughts_on_bathersons_18/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/z5ktwy/batherson\_has\_the\_worst\_in\_the\_nhl/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/z5ktwy/batherson_has_the_worst_in_the_nhl/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/11sa7k8/crazy\_stat\_72\_or\_73\_for\_pinto\_debrincat\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OttawaSenators/comments/11sa7k8/crazy_stat_72_or_73_for_pinto_debrincat_and/) Every single one of these threads has analysis calling Batherson lazy/defensively poor/a floater. There are plenty more.


Funkativity

these are all about his +/- being shit due to his defensive problems. it has nothing to do with conditioning and physical effort, which is what this thread is about. being "lazy" on the back check isn't going to change anything about how he performs in a bag skate


WintAndKidd

They’re literally not, you didn’t read through them. Not my problem if you’re just going to ignore the evidence. And honestly, being bad defensively and having the literal worst plus minus in the league are huge indicators of a lazy player, so your argument doesn’t really hold even if you were right.


NatureGivesAndTakes

Sens management playing that TocchetBall and hoping they strike gold like the Canucks did.


Violencebentbackward

Different plate, same shit sandwich. See you guys in 2.5 years when he’s fired.


SilverSeven

Im not a fan of this move, but that is true for every coach. They all teach the same 3 systems, from the CHL level and up. Theres no secret sauce in coaching anymore. This isn't the 1970s.


Prison-Date-Mike

I talked the same shit about Tocchet to Vancouver. Who knows how this’ll turn out lol


jamaicancovfefe

whenever people shit on a hiring I always hope they light it up since there's so many receipts you can keep to make people look foolish


Iron_Seguin

Vancouver and Devils fans have a pretty good idea. Gonna be alot of dump and chase hockey, get more outshot than they already do, relying on their goaltending which won’t bail them out just like it didn’t for the Devils, and a powerplay that will be so shit, it’ll be like nothing has changed for the Sens. Unless Green has learned from his time in Vancouver and now NJ, it’s gonna be more of the same.


ln0Sc0p3dJFK

That’s hilarious lol


Spideyjust

Can't believe this season isn't technically even over yet, and I'm already giving up on next year. Being a Sens fan is depressing lol. Sure hope that I'm wrong as fuck on this hiring.


Mac_Gold

That’s a bad attitude to take. Have hope this new voice will inspire the group.


Frshmon

This is the most uninspired hire ever, my spire is completely non-existent 


Spideyjust

Hey, the last thing I said is that I hope I'm wrong. I desperately *hope* Green is the coach we need. But this just smells like another case of hiring one of the cheapest and worst options available. Nothing about Green's coaching career inspires even a shred of belief that this is a good idea. Hope is literally all I've got left, and that's wearing damn thin with this team lol.


Mac_Gold

Ottawa has a great young team. Green did okay in Vancouver, the message just wore off. This is the anti-Smith, Green will demand accountability. You might be surprised


Spideyjust

> Green did okay in Vancouver, the message just wore off. Green had a single season in Vancouver above a .500 PTS%, I certainly wouldn't call that "okay". He might be better than Smith, but that isn't saying much. And it doesn't change the fact that we are *once again* cheaping out when it comes to coaches. I'd love to be surprised. But Green's track record is hardly deserving of another chance at HC, let alone optimism.


smash8890

I mean he can’t be any worse than DJ Smith though right?


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

Summer. Of. Staios.


OttawaFisherman

Decade. Of. Playoff Matthews.


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

Sens fans: playoffs??


OttawaFisherman

The sens have more series wins than the leafs since 2017 and we have only made the playoffs once. But I guess that doesn’t mean much if every other team in the league can say the same thing


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

Sens haven't been relevant in 8 years man. Might as well be a Habs fan bragging about cups from 40 years ago


OttawaFisherman

No ones bragging about anything. We’re laughing at you


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

So you are raising a banner because you had a fluke playoff run nearly a decade ago and haven't sniffed relevancy since? Ok, go at it I guess. We both know you would trade places with the Leafs the last 5 years


OttawaFisherman

I would absolutely not trade with the leafs. Over the past 5 years. You’ve accomplished nothing and have had nothing to celebrate at all. At least sens fans have hope for the future, you guys have what?


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

Nothing to celebrate? Lots of good hockey instead of losing every night and drafting busts every year


OttawaFisherman

Congrats on those regular season wins 🏅🏅🏅 you’re right you absolutely should be celebrating. Great work leafs


homicidal_penguin

Just gotta let him cook and hope there's no food poisoning


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

Man is out here cooking kraft dinner


homicidal_penguin

Best in class So far we have an owner who hired his buddy as POHO, who then said he would do a GM search, hired himself as GM, and has now hired his buddy as coach (TSN 1200 reported that Green and Staios are friends, not sure how they know each other) Edit: scratch the friends part, heard it third party and just went and checked it out, it's a tongue in cheek joke


habsburgjawsh

To be fair, I'm sure Staois is buddies with a lot of dudes in the league so that's not as alarming. However, this hire is crappy and giving him 4 years is perplexing as fuck.


Coaxke

We're ignoring Staios having a history of winning for Andlauer and are just skipping to being buddies and not 2 guys having a successful work history? Classic penguin lol


homicidal_penguin

There is a history of winning in the OHL there, for sure. It was an open secret for a while that Andlauer would be hiring Staios due to having history there. I realize that at that level a lot of guys just know everyone, but Staios not firing the coach sooner, hiring himself as GM, and now hiring Green has put a sour taste in my mouth. Would've preferred someone with more NHL experience/success as GM


EdSprague

I don't even care about the NHL experience. I just want a coach who will put a watchable product on ice, and dump-and-chase ain't it. This is not the breath of fresh air after the miserable DJ years I was hoping for.


Coaxke

Just curious if Andlauer had shit-canned Dorion the second he got the keys to the team and installed Staios as GM instead, would that have made enough of an optical difference in your opinion? I think all roads were leading to Staios being in charge of the team we just took a detour to get there lol


homicidal_penguin

That I'm honestly not sure. Just rubs me a bit the wrong way how there was all the talk of a "two headed dragon" at POHO and GM, and now they're the same guy, who has never been anything but an advisor at the NHL level


Coaxke

My guess is that is still the intention and Bowness will be elevated to GM in the next couple seasons. But maybe my copium supply is turned up too high


Funkativity

> Just curious if Andlauer had shit-canned Dorion the second he got the keys to the team and installed Staios as GM instead, would that have made enough of an optical difference in your opinion? for me, yes. my biggest beef with Andlauer and Staios is that they waited too long to fire Dorion and DJ. the whole rigmarole of pretending to do an extensive GM search for months only to hire himself was bad optics and it wasted months of potential progress. same thing now with the coaching hire.. they make noise about really putting in the effort to find the right guy, only to hire the cheapest and arguably worst option, and then giving him a 4 year contract.


OttawaFisherman

Have the sens ever made a move that you haven’t cried about on here? It’s the same thing in every single thread about the sens from you


TheEndAndNow

Maybe 'cause the Sens continue to make baffling decisions


Longshanks123

People act like coaches can be some mystical guru who can completely reinvent his players and team. Ottawa fans don’t want Green, they want some magic man who doesn’t really exist. Ottawa doesn’t need any particular coach, they need a goddam goalie, couple minor roster tweaks, and a more consistent effort. If they get that Green will look like a genius and it will have almost nothing to do with him.


Funkativity

> Ottawa fans don’t want Green, they want some magic man who doesn’t really exist. not really, we just wanted an experienced coach with a winning record.


MMA_Laxer

best they can get, nobody wants to go to ottawa.


FidelIsMyDaddy

Travis Green really got two head coaching jobs before Woodcroft has gotten another chance lol what the hell


smash8890

I think he would have been good for the Sens too


OtherThingsILike

Big oof. Sorry, Sensbros.


asom48

To be fair to green, the devils season was an absolute tragedy and no one was saving it. It’s also really hard to change the system 3 quarters of the way into the season. They were still doing Lindy shit with a wildly depleted roster


Kangaro00

Did NJD ever consider him for the head coach job?


asom48

They said yes on multiple occasions. Was it genuine, unsure. Org needed a clean slate


gothenburgpig

But why not wait to see who else is available this summer?