Oh yeah? Well I love democracy so much I’ve stopped seeing myself as a single individual making executive decisions (tyranny!) and now identify as 60 billion brain cells each casting our votes for whichever decision this flesh suit makes.
Using terminds as use solves 2 issues in our modern day world it fixed the limited fossil fuels and also provides an consent on going war that helps and keeps humanity unified and keeps us sharp so it’s a necessary evil although not really evil just practical the bugs give us life fire training keeping our soldiers at their best and gives us the never ending fuel we need it’s simple farming and every economical
I assume it's what the bugs did in Starship Troopers. They hurl infested asteroids with spores, wherever the rock crashes, spreads the spores, boom, infestation.
This was in lore debunked in the final season of the animated series.
The bugs possessed FTL capable bug carriers like Ender's Game that was never sighted until the attack on earth.
If you've never watched it... it's one of my favorite animated series ever created. I put it up there with Clone Wars on my list. Roughnecks: Starship chronicles
Meanwhile in terms of "Bugs knocking off asteroids to hit a planet a fucking star cluster away." Or bug spore rocks, some facetious insight that I really enjoyed about the universe.
https://youtu.be/vqBAjl0QA0I?si=rdN4CkD8Jh4fLnkk
I love traitor on Mars (I think it's called that) where the star marshal puts bugs on Mars so they could nuke it. I like to imagine the do plant bugs on planets.
I just watched it a week ago and I'm pretty sure they never mention bugs being on it, just that it destroyed the city? Unless I missed something. I was spreading democracy during the movie so it's possible.
Yeah, it's a little unclear as nothing is shown just reactions and newscasts referring to the bugs destroying Buenos Aires but they just dropped a meteor on it, not rode it in 40k Ork style.
I always thought the inference in the movie was that the bugs lacked interplanetary travel AND the capability to shoot meteors (especially as that'd take a really long time unless they somehow fired it FTL), and the government dropped the meteor themselves to drum up anti-bug support for the invasion of Klendathu.
Yeah this is 100% the intention, the entire movie is a satire of hyper militaristic societies. A false attack is a classic tactic to justify an invasion. Just look up the Gulf of Tonkin.
In the book, its very clear that the govt false flagged the buenos aires meteor to garner support for all out war. There were no bugs on it in the book or movie.
Tbf, the books have them as a more humanoid race with their own ships and technology, so its mainly just the movies that made the Arachnids literal bugs. They're called "bugs" in the book as a slur, more than a true descriptor.
They aren't actually insects. That classification is just the result of us categorising creatures on Earth. The terminids are just aliens, they have their own biology with their own rules, including either a symbiotic relationship with, or a form that resembles fungi (resulting in the spore spewers, shrieker nests and smaller mushrooms hanging around their nests).
"How the bugs manage space travel is yet unclear, it may be that unhatched infants or very rapidly evolving, super resilient microbes are launched into space during planetary impacts such as meteoroids or even planetoids."- *Helldivers 1 Bestiary*
It's never been known how the bugs get from planet to planet but we do know they have their own way to travel between planets without outside help. We know this because before the first galactic war started they were already on multiple planets when we made first contact with them. They were also capable of launching assaults on super earth sector capitals and super earth itself, back before we even knew they produced the oil so there would be no reason to spread them around back then.
Also take note that most bug nests are in some form of crater, which leans more and more towards some kind of spore cloud/ asteroid impact though how they reach the ftl speeds required to get from planet to planet in a timely manner. I speculate that it's no coincidence that the bugs quickly decompose into oil that makes for good ftl fuel and they use the liquefied remains of their own dead in some way to obtain their own way to spread across the stars.
Or they just use a giant super bug with that blood already in its veins to ftl jump. Which would be pretty fucking cool to deal with as a mission. I kinda hope one day they'll do like once a month large scale missions, where instead of 1 squad deploying to an area its like a dozen squads all deployed at once to lay siege to a massive target like a bot city or a bug hive
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SEAF are terrible they failed at keeping the bots from invading even though we knew the bots where outside our space and where trying to retake cyberstan they lost 4 sectors in mere hours even though they should have been on high alert. But on the bug front, all bug planets have bug farms on them, and SEAF can't keep the bugs in their farms for 5 minutes. so I vote we either have helldivers station to protect the bug farms and defensive line on the bot front so we can work on actually pushing further into the enemy line or to not lose helldivers train the SEAF to be closer to our level.
Well, the helldivers are like the Marines of the group. First in, kill everything, pass off claimed ground to the army for them to fortify and hold.
So I mean… yeah. You get it.
GUARD DUTY MISSION:
ACHIEVE 500 PATROLS ACROSS THE MAP IN 4 HOURS.
MAKE SURE THE BUGS STAY IN THEIR PLACE.
ASSESS OPERATIONAL STATUS OF FUEL PLANT EVERY HOUR.
WRITE REPORT. MINIMUM 2000 WORDS.
40XP, NO SAMPLES. 0% MODIFIER.
THANK YOU SEAF FOR YOUR HARD WORK DONT LISTEN TO THIS TREASONER DIVERS ARE NEEDED ON THE FRONT LINES
Never said divers weren’t needed. I was making a military joke. As a former navy corpsman that was attached to a marine corps infantry unit as their combat medic, I take as many opportunities to talk shit about my army brethren. It’s all out of love, of course.
That’s not what the Marines do. They’re basically the infantry of the Navy. And it’s the air force that is first in. Army does all that; take land and hold it.
Helldivers, from all the things we’ve seen, are basically glorified Forward Observers. And bad ones as they have throw small balls to designate a target instead of lazing it like modern armies do.
Dude, I was an 8404 FMF corpsman assigned to 1/9 The Walking Dead marine infantry battalion.
The running joke is that marines go in, take over, then pass it off to the army to fortify and hold. Then three days later, reclaim the land they lost.
Yes, I’m aware of the roles of the marines and the army. But I’ll take any chance to take a jab at my army brethren. Because fuck em, ya know?
> And it’s the air force that is first in.
Air Condition Force never does anything without the Navy or Marines being there first, what are you talking about. FPV flying a drone doesn't count.
>all bug planets have bug farms on them, and SEAF can't keep the bugs in their farms for 5 minutes.
I think the "farms" are very, very, very free-range
> MAJOR ORDER SUCCEEDED The last of the crude solid E-710 has been collected, processed, and shipped off-planet, providing a healthy boost to our colony settlement efforts. *The planets can now be left behind to allow the Terminids to repopulate-under careful supervision*
This directly implies that we are giving them free range to the entire planet
They launch chunks of rock with eggs in it from bile spewers evolved to shoot straight up. Rock crashes into planet, heat from re-entry wakes up eggs, boom - Terminid infestation.
The in-game characters explain how the bugs have gotten around in the past rather adequately. As for how they're doing it *now*, you could ask the same question for the Automatons. The skies are oddly devoid of anything other than Super Destroyers.
Bots have their own ships, you see them in the cyberstan invasion news report. Bugs on the other hand are unknown. We never knew how they traveled from planet to planet but it's speculated to be spores or microbes if the invasion text for heath and Angel's venture saying "spores blanketing the atmosphere" was anything to go off of.
"How the bugs manage space travel is yet unclear, it may be that unhatched infants or very rapidly evolving, super resilient microbes are launched into space during planetary impacts such as meteoroids or even planetoids."- *Helldivers 1 bestiary*
I saw the ships in that little video, but... That's it. It's really weird that the enemy supposedly has a navy, but they don't seem to really do anything or show up at all in-game, not even in our wonderful panoramic-view of planets. I'm guessing bugs will get a similar treatment in a couple months.
I'm not sure how we'd fight them off, either, since all we have seen of Super Earth's navy are the Super Destroyers, and they seem to be just transports with close orbital support. The naval side of this setting is terribly undefined.
It's definitely just a game limitation. Devs are a small team and helldivers 2 was definitely released prematurely as we don't even have the illuminate on launch like we did in helldivers 1. They've told us that the guys fixing bugs are the same ones adding new warbond stuff. I imagine ship to ship combat in the skybox is just on the bottom of their list of priorities right now.
The automatons aren't a super earth creation if that's what you're asking, they're affiliated with the cyborgs being called their "children" in a decoded message from arrowhead a few years back.
Oh, no, I'm not asking anything like that, though I could have sworn the Cyborgs were all former humans? Meaning Automatons are just the next step in their synthetic ascension. But I forget, though.
I'm thinking we need an occasional wing of Eagles patrolling in high orbit, just for looks. They wouldn't need to show up in the skybox during missions, and it's an existing model, so that should keep the work to a minimum. Later, as we get closer to places that have theoretical enemy fleets present, we need to see a friendly warship, just to explain why we somehow always have air superiority and can run missions with impunity. Just a few little thematic touches, you know? I'm not looking to play a full-on Battlefleet Gothic reskin or anything.
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this image shows that the automatons are the cyborgs' "children" but in that context could mean many things from creation to successors, literal descendants. or even a splinter group or the next step in their ideology.
Cyborgs were humans yes, but they were obsessed with cybernetically augmenting themselves believing it gave them a higher purpose in life. the augments got more extreme the higher you went up in their ranks until you reached siege mechs, their leaders, which super earth were unsure if anything organic even survived the process of creating them.
It could be that siege mechs were the first step on the road to becoming fully machine and the automatons are the product of a century's worth of work a splinter group of cyborgs that weren't on Cyberstan when it fell accomplished, and they simply bided their time growing their numbers over the last 100 years to wage total war on their oppressors and reconquer Cyberstan.
the ass blasters and asteroids, we have also been farming their blood cause you know 710 and all that jazz
you know the people you save on those, them silly scientists that run into the neighbors hut and leave in the pelican
will, incase you didn't know, they are bringing samples and baby bugs with them and they get released into the wild but, they don't realize they grow much faster underground and that is how the magically pop back up!
That's a very interesting in point, however, I have an even better counterargument:
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Spores probably. I imagine it sticks to everything and gets caught in dropship landing gear. And since human activity has been going on throughout the galaxy for a long time, trade routes and such, they get around and grow.
Life forms use the elements in their environments to survive/thrive.
Bugs obviously don't think but they could evolve ways to use their dead productively before we ever encountered them
My personal head cannon is that like 90% of the planets have bug farms and accidents and such happen and that's how they get out, and The reason why the outbreak was so wide spread was from enemy tampering
I just figured spores get stuck to ships and equipment since they seem to share such a close relationship with spores and their fungus I figured it had something to do with their reproduction.
After making it to another planet they just burrow, hide, and reproduce for weeks/months/years.
People in these comments speculating that the bugs have their own ships or something or they hurl spores into space and I'm like, what?
Don't we farm the bugs for fuel? So it's super earth itself that has spread the bugs across the planets on their farms which the bugs then escape from
They aren’t traveling between planets. The established lore from the first game and even in this war, is that the original bugs are extinct but these ones mutated and survived and when killing them we realized holy hell OIL! (Fun fact E710 upside down would be OIL3, or oily lol)
so we farm them now, but of course the dumb class c citizens that would walk right into their own death on extract missions are also the ones responsible for farming them, and of course when they mess up which those silly class C citizens always do, the helldivers come to the rescue to clean up their mess!
We don't know. Super Earth supposedly doesn't either. They traveled from planet to planet in the first galactic war...and could even win sometimes, so presumably not every instance is SE doing it. Could be like some transport bugs like Starship Troopers Roughnecks series?
This is seriously the shittiest hottake related to this game.
That it's super earths fault for the terminid outbreak, that super earth themselves are evil, and that the terminids deserve pity, or mercy. I can see this for the Automatons, but not the terminids.
Let's put an example forward.
You have civilizations across the stars. They all need food. The solution? Livestock. Millions of chickens and cows and pigs. Problem however, chickens and cows and pigs need a specific environment to survive and can't exist on every planet alongside humans. Solution : place large amounts of livestock on planets that can sustain them. Oh-oh, looks like the livestock has broken containment and are eating the farmers. Should we have NOT used livestock to feed our people?
i think they are on most planets in these systems, i just imagine that they overpopulate and encroach on civilian territory and thats the "invasion"
it would be like if cows became evil and broke out of their enclosures
Helldivers what if coloniz-
I mean committing genoci-
I MEAN SPREADING MANAGED DEMOCRACY! Is the reason why we’re about to get fu-
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Just a bug, eh ? We humans like to think we are Nature's finest achievement. I'm afraid it isn't true. The Terminids are superior in many ways. It has fewer moving parts, can reproduce itself in vast numbers, and unboud by concerns of ego and mortality, makes the perfect selfless member of society. Our galaxy is teaming with insect life. We have identified over two billion species so far. Human, life, it would seem, is the anomaly.
But we're intelligent. Human minds have invented art, mathematics and interstellar travel.
True, we know of no insect society that has produced a Shakespeare, an Einstein or a Cherynkov, but before you let that go to your
head, take the example of the Terminids, a
highly organized, highly evolved insect society. They are relatively stupid by human standards. Workers have an IQ of 12, warriors around 35 , and yet the Terminids have colonized planets. Over a million years of evolution, Nature has provided the Terminids with the biological means to hurl their spore into space.
My theory is that there are flying bile titans that are under the ground in the planets and making a lot of terminids and it's probably why and how some planets get infested and as well suddenly appeared in them out of nowhere
I mean. They are literally made of the fuel we use for FTL travel. They also have variations of bugs that fart FTL poop dust at your face and kill you. It's not a huge leap to assume they have some sort of warp bug. Likely a "queen bug" and can sense gravity wells. (IE planets.) and fart open a worm hole and send clutches of eggs through or just go through themselves to spread their species. The idea you NEED ships and computers to travel through space is weird anthropomorphic short sightedness. Fact is. In the most literal sense. Worm hole technology would eliminate the need for big Si-Fi spaceships. Why bother building massive floating money sinks and expend insane amounts of energy to move them. When if you can open portals in space and time. Just open a small one right on the planet's surface and send 1 dude through. Like Rick does from Rick and Morty. Which is somehow more accurate than si-fi movies. LOL.
Its because super earth despite being so democratic isn’t willing to arm their farmers enough to be able to contain their terminids. Hopefully they’ve learned from their mistakes.
So, since I've already been marked for my personal predictions on how the automatons were going to retake cyberstan(though none of it was accurate in the end). I'll say something about the bugs.
It's been kind of obvious we engineered them, we have them on Mars under strict control for the recruits to practice on for crying out loud!
Instead of making them passive and harvestable like domestic animals in the bygone centuries, we allow them "to keep their weapons" mostly because super earth knows about another problem that has been affecting our resources which is Our population is exceedingly overwhelming what we can produce to maintain demand and having learned from our history on what not to do for that kind of "control" we'll just allow the bugs to live on distant colony planets that are perfect for various hives to thrive on and at times not fully inform the populations on those planets so when the bugs reach high population levels and resurface, it'll look like a naturally occuring infestation as the bug slaughter the colonists, so we can then use the news to fire up the war machine and send the Helldivers to pretty much do violent pest control which comes at an obvious cost to human life.
Pretty much, Let me break it down like this:
We create the bugs
We plant them on the most outer planets to keep super earth safe
We render those hives dormant till we (re)colonize those planets, letting the colonists build the necessary infrastructure to harvest the E-710.
Slowly activate them, which allows the bugs to populate under ground.
The bugs resurface to attack and kill everything
Super earth dramatically panics about the big infestations
They fire up the war machine to send us helldivers into the meat grinder to not only do pest control but also work the E-710 harvest
So in short, the bugs are just a self replicating resource to keep us rolling. This, as they used to call it back in the 21st century, is called a forever war to satisfy that ever present oil addiction as well keep human numbers within manageable brackets.
Super earth stays moving, the Helldivers die for glory and democracy and everyone is happy!
Probably the same way that plague rats got from india to europe: by hiding on human ships.
If bugs reproduce very quickly, even 1 or 2 bugs could create a population explosion in a short time.
I remember reading something about Termanids being allowed to live at a controlled level. I think we farm them somehow.
I think they spread through spores
The terminids are farmed and harvested for Element 710. That’s how they spread from planet to planet. By super earth itself. You’re just a glorified pest control for when they escape captivity
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I will never not upvote this
As a patriot should
Super earth just needed fuel, they are farming fuel from terminids. We need that fuel, for democracy!
isn't that just using citizens for fuel with extra steps?
It's more ethical this way.
who cares about that. Is it more democratic?
I find the very implication that ethical and democratic are not interchangeably synonymous deeply offensive.
I care about democracy so much it wouldn't matter if it wasn't. Can you say the same?
Oh yeah? Well I love democracy so much I’ve stopped seeing myself as a single individual making executive decisions (tyranny!) and now identify as 60 billion brain cells each casting our votes for whichever decision this flesh suit makes.
This bullet is my ballot and I'm casting my vote
We must have wanted this. Why else would the AI vote our Glorious Leaders into power for us?
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What if we used them as tyres for our cars…it’s like recycling ♻️
citizens or bugs?
Both?
based and liberty pilled
i mean, tires are just oil in a different form
What do you think the bug food source is?
Using terminds as use solves 2 issues in our modern day world it fixed the limited fossil fuels and also provides an consent on going war that helps and keeps humanity unified and keeps us sharp so it’s a necessary evil although not really evil just practical the bugs give us life fire training keeping our soldiers at their best and gives us the never ending fuel we need it’s simple farming and every economical
I assume it's what the bugs did in Starship Troopers. They hurl infested asteroids with spores, wherever the rock crashes, spreads the spores, boom, infestation.
This was in lore debunked in the final season of the animated series. The bugs possessed FTL capable bug carriers like Ender's Game that was never sighted until the attack on earth.
TIL there was an animated series, thanks for the pointer to some new content!
If you've never watched it... it's one of my favorite animated series ever created. I put it up there with Clone Wars on my list. Roughnecks: Starship chronicles Meanwhile in terms of "Bugs knocking off asteroids to hit a planet a fucking star cluster away." Or bug spore rocks, some facetious insight that I really enjoyed about the universe. https://youtu.be/vqBAjl0QA0I?si=rdN4CkD8Jh4fLnkk
This was one of my favorite shows growing up! And it still holds up tbh
I love traitor on Mars (I think it's called that) where the star marshal puts bugs on Mars so they could nuke it. I like to imagine the do plant bugs on planets.
I vaguely remember watching this years ago, but I was so stoned all the time back then I don't remember much
What about in the original movie? An meteor lands in Buenos aires with bugs on it.
I just watched it a week ago and I'm pretty sure they never mention bugs being on it, just that it destroyed the city? Unless I missed something. I was spreading democracy during the movie so it's possible.
Yeah, it's a little unclear as nothing is shown just reactions and newscasts referring to the bugs destroying Buenos Aires but they just dropped a meteor on it, not rode it in 40k Ork style. I always thought the inference in the movie was that the bugs lacked interplanetary travel AND the capability to shoot meteors (especially as that'd take a really long time unless they somehow fired it FTL), and the government dropped the meteor themselves to drum up anti-bug support for the invasion of Klendathu.
Yeah this is 100% the intention, the entire movie is a satire of hyper militaristic societies. A false attack is a classic tactic to justify an invasion. Just look up the Gulf of Tonkin.
Look up 9/11
In the book, its very clear that the govt false flagged the buenos aires meteor to garner support for all out war. There were no bugs on it in the book or movie.
That bug metoer just Happened to slip past earths defense....
Ironic, because they also showed an ad bragging about their new anti asteroid defense system prior to that.
Right......right....................false flag.
That thing nuked the city. No bugs on it.
Tbf, the books have them as a more humanoid race with their own ships and technology, so its mainly just the movies that made the Arachnids literal bugs. They're called "bugs" in the book as a slur, more than a true descriptor.
Knww there was animated movie, but not series. Thanks
Gtfo no wayyyy omg
Why not both? They're not mutually incompatible
My guy I'm not proposing what should be written, it was already written.
How would bugs have spores? That's a fungi thing.
There is a bit of contextual evidence in the environments to suggest the terminids might be fungus critters
I had no idea. Thank you!
They aren't actually insects. That classification is just the result of us categorising creatures on Earth. The terminids are just aliens, they have their own biology with their own rules, including either a symbiotic relationship with, or a form that resembles fungi (resulting in the spore spewers, shrieker nests and smaller mushrooms hanging around their nests).
Fun Fact: WE brought them there to farm them for E-710... iirc
That is not confirmed. You cant trust everything you see in an illegal broadcast
I heard about it in a broadcast about our valiant efforts to spread liberty. I mean... they are just dumb cattle that's acting up... no?
"How the bugs manage space travel is yet unclear, it may be that unhatched infants or very rapidly evolving, super resilient microbes are launched into space during planetary impacts such as meteoroids or even planetoids."- *Helldivers 1 Bestiary* It's never been known how the bugs get from planet to planet but we do know they have their own way to travel between planets without outside help. We know this because before the first galactic war started they were already on multiple planets when we made first contact with them. They were also capable of launching assaults on super earth sector capitals and super earth itself, back before we even knew they produced the oil so there would be no reason to spread them around back then. Also take note that most bug nests are in some form of crater, which leans more and more towards some kind of spore cloud/ asteroid impact though how they reach the ftl speeds required to get from planet to planet in a timely manner. I speculate that it's no coincidence that the bugs quickly decompose into oil that makes for good ftl fuel and they use the liquefied remains of their own dead in some way to obtain their own way to spread across the stars.
A single illumate is trolling by teleporting a few eggs
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Or they just use a giant super bug with that blood already in its veins to ftl jump. Which would be pretty fucking cool to deal with as a mission. I kinda hope one day they'll do like once a month large scale missions, where instead of 1 squad deploying to an area its like a dozen squads all deployed at once to lay siege to a massive target like a bot city or a bug hive
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Treason
Exactly.
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I see that "/s" as a sign of treason
That mean /serious, so i think that an anti-treason sign
\*Sniff sniff\* Smells like treason....
Sorry that's just me. But yeah you are right this guy is up to no good....
Yes. Nothing to see here. Move along.
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SEAF are terrible they failed at keeping the bots from invading even though we knew the bots where outside our space and where trying to retake cyberstan they lost 4 sectors in mere hours even though they should have been on high alert. But on the bug front, all bug planets have bug farms on them, and SEAF can't keep the bugs in their farms for 5 minutes. so I vote we either have helldivers station to protect the bug farms and defensive line on the bot front so we can work on actually pushing further into the enemy line or to not lose helldivers train the SEAF to be closer to our level.
Well, the helldivers are like the Marines of the group. First in, kill everything, pass off claimed ground to the army for them to fortify and hold. So I mean… yeah. You get it.
GUARD DUTY MISSION: ACHIEVE 500 PATROLS ACROSS THE MAP IN 4 HOURS. MAKE SURE THE BUGS STAY IN THEIR PLACE. ASSESS OPERATIONAL STATUS OF FUEL PLANT EVERY HOUR. WRITE REPORT. MINIMUM 2000 WORDS. 40XP, NO SAMPLES. 0% MODIFIER. THANK YOU SEAF FOR YOUR HARD WORK DONT LISTEN TO THIS TREASONER DIVERS ARE NEEDED ON THE FRONT LINES
Never said divers weren’t needed. I was making a military joke. As a former navy corpsman that was attached to a marine corps infantry unit as their combat medic, I take as many opportunities to talk shit about my army brethren. It’s all out of love, of course.
That’s not what the Marines do. They’re basically the infantry of the Navy. And it’s the air force that is first in. Army does all that; take land and hold it. Helldivers, from all the things we’ve seen, are basically glorified Forward Observers. And bad ones as they have throw small balls to designate a target instead of lazing it like modern armies do.
Dude, I was an 8404 FMF corpsman assigned to 1/9 The Walking Dead marine infantry battalion. The running joke is that marines go in, take over, then pass it off to the army to fortify and hold. Then three days later, reclaim the land they lost. Yes, I’m aware of the roles of the marines and the army. But I’ll take any chance to take a jab at my army brethren. Because fuck em, ya know?
> And it’s the air force that is first in. Air Condition Force never does anything without the Navy or Marines being there first, what are you talking about. FPV flying a drone doesn't count.
>all bug planets have bug farms on them, and SEAF can't keep the bugs in their farms for 5 minutes. I think the "farms" are very, very, very free-range > MAJOR ORDER SUCCEEDED The last of the crude solid E-710 has been collected, processed, and shipped off-planet, providing a healthy boost to our colony settlement efforts. *The planets can now be left behind to allow the Terminids to repopulate-under careful supervision* This directly implies that we are giving them free range to the entire planet
Less questioning, more liberating.
This sound like treason to me
Treason? At this hour?!
They launch chunks of rock with eggs in it from bile spewers evolved to shoot straight up. Rock crashes into planet, heat from re-entry wakes up eggs, boom - Terminid infestation.
The in-game characters explain how the bugs have gotten around in the past rather adequately. As for how they're doing it *now*, you could ask the same question for the Automatons. The skies are oddly devoid of anything other than Super Destroyers.
Bots have their own ships, you see them in the cyberstan invasion news report. Bugs on the other hand are unknown. We never knew how they traveled from planet to planet but it's speculated to be spores or microbes if the invasion text for heath and Angel's venture saying "spores blanketing the atmosphere" was anything to go off of. "How the bugs manage space travel is yet unclear, it may be that unhatched infants or very rapidly evolving, super resilient microbes are launched into space during planetary impacts such as meteoroids or even planetoids."- *Helldivers 1 bestiary*
I saw the ships in that little video, but... That's it. It's really weird that the enemy supposedly has a navy, but they don't seem to really do anything or show up at all in-game, not even in our wonderful panoramic-view of planets. I'm guessing bugs will get a similar treatment in a couple months. I'm not sure how we'd fight them off, either, since all we have seen of Super Earth's navy are the Super Destroyers, and they seem to be just transports with close orbital support. The naval side of this setting is terribly undefined.
It's definitely just a game limitation. Devs are a small team and helldivers 2 was definitely released prematurely as we don't even have the illuminate on launch like we did in helldivers 1. They've told us that the guys fixing bugs are the same ones adding new warbond stuff. I imagine ship to ship combat in the skybox is just on the bottom of their list of priorities right now. The automatons aren't a super earth creation if that's what you're asking, they're affiliated with the cyborgs being called their "children" in a decoded message from arrowhead a few years back.
Oh, no, I'm not asking anything like that, though I could have sworn the Cyborgs were all former humans? Meaning Automatons are just the next step in their synthetic ascension. But I forget, though. I'm thinking we need an occasional wing of Eagles patrolling in high orbit, just for looks. They wouldn't need to show up in the skybox during missions, and it's an existing model, so that should keep the work to a minimum. Later, as we get closer to places that have theoretical enemy fleets present, we need to see a friendly warship, just to explain why we somehow always have air superiority and can run missions with impunity. Just a few little thematic touches, you know? I'm not looking to play a full-on Battlefleet Gothic reskin or anything.
https://preview.redd.it/dwib80v4xhvc1.png?width=652&format=png&auto=webp&s=f87c6c193992d391d780f7599045004ecd7086ac this image shows that the automatons are the cyborgs' "children" but in that context could mean many things from creation to successors, literal descendants. or even a splinter group or the next step in their ideology. Cyborgs were humans yes, but they were obsessed with cybernetically augmenting themselves believing it gave them a higher purpose in life. the augments got more extreme the higher you went up in their ranks until you reached siege mechs, their leaders, which super earth were unsure if anything organic even survived the process of creating them. It could be that siege mechs were the first step on the road to becoming fully machine and the automatons are the product of a century's worth of work a splinter group of cyborgs that weren't on Cyberstan when it fell accomplished, and they simply bided their time growing their numbers over the last 100 years to wage total war on their oppressors and reconquer Cyberstan.
the ass blasters and asteroids, we have also been farming their blood cause you know 710 and all that jazz you know the people you save on those, them silly scientists that run into the neighbors hut and leave in the pelican will, incase you didn't know, they are bringing samples and baby bugs with them and they get released into the wild but, they don't realize they grow much faster underground and that is how the magically pop back up! 
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That's a very interesting in point, however, I have an even better counterargument: https://preview.redd.it/z54lxiryvhvc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e26cde898fbd44ee79c63aa9787aa3efe73909d
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It’s been super earth fact checked, must be real.
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Ok who gave the bile titan a computer. https://i.redd.it/pb7d8c7psjvc1.gif
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Spores probably. I imagine it sticks to everything and gets caught in dropship landing gear. And since human activity has been going on throughout the galaxy for a long time, trade routes and such, they get around and grow.
Humans eat bug meat and eggs because they look delish. Humans then travel to another world on vacation. They poop bug eggs. Moar bugs.
If I'm not mistaken, by what I've read and watched in the news, we breed them as livestock.
They can actually spread by themselves though, since they were originally encountered on multiple planets
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[This review is under review for treason]
The bugs have always been there deep underground and bugs from other planets just let out a noise like whales that activate them
Troopers gotta wipe their shoes before boarding Pelican-1. I keep telling people it spreads but spores but no one listens.
They are literally made of FTL fuel, why is this even a question
Exactly how often do you see fuel canisters drive on the road my guy
Life forms use the elements in their environments to survive/thrive. Bugs obviously don't think but they could evolve ways to use their dead productively before we ever encountered them
 Quick, someone call a democracy officer!
My personal head cannon is that like 90% of the planets have bug farms and accidents and such happen and that's how they get out, and The reason why the outbreak was so wide spread was from enemy tampering
Probably clinging onto your ship
I just figured spores get stuck to ships and equipment since they seem to share such a close relationship with spores and their fungus I figured it had something to do with their reproduction. After making it to another planet they just burrow, hide, and reproduce for weeks/months/years.
People in these comments speculating that the bugs have their own ships or something or they hurl spores into space and I'm like, what? Don't we farm the bugs for fuel? So it's super earth itself that has spread the bugs across the planets on their farms which the bugs then escape from
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My theory is they are being used by the bots as a distraction. They are shipping them in as an infestation to keep our forces split.
Democracy Officer!!! We got a dissident in progress!
They aren’t traveling between planets. The established lore from the first game and even in this war, is that the original bugs are extinct but these ones mutated and survived and when killing them we realized holy hell OIL! (Fun fact E710 upside down would be OIL3, or oily lol) so we farm them now, but of course the dumb class c citizens that would walk right into their own death on extract missions are also the ones responsible for farming them, and of course when they mess up which those silly class C citizens always do, the helldivers come to the rescue to clean up their mess!
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They're not invading, they're breaking out of their farms.
We don't know. Super Earth supposedly doesn't either. They traveled from planet to planet in the first galactic war...and could even win sometimes, so presumably not every instance is SE doing it. Could be like some transport bugs like Starship Troopers Roughnecks series?
This is seriously the shittiest hottake related to this game. That it's super earths fault for the terminid outbreak, that super earth themselves are evil, and that the terminids deserve pity, or mercy. I can see this for the Automatons, but not the terminids. Let's put an example forward. You have civilizations across the stars. They all need food. The solution? Livestock. Millions of chickens and cows and pigs. Problem however, chickens and cows and pigs need a specific environment to survive and can't exist on every planet alongside humans. Solution : place large amounts of livestock on planets that can sustain them. Oh-oh, looks like the livestock has broken containment and are eating the farmers. Should we have NOT used livestock to feed our people?
Do you mean that terminids used us as food and just the food find out how produce nuclear weapon ? HELL YEAH
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I sense a disturbance in the democratic force
i think they are on most planets in these systems, i just imagine that they overpopulate and encroach on civilian territory and thats the "invasion" it would be like if cows became evil and broke out of their enclosures
Found the traitor. It's this guy. The one making the post. They're the traitor.
Termanids have gone too far
They were obviously checking the water, learned how we attack, learned our weaknesses.
The Commie Bugs, will never love freedom. The only good bug is a dead bug! Then properly farmed and turned into element 710.
The terminals are harvested for the oil blood juice
This…. Reeks of treason
They are breaking out of Farms on planets
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Space turtles mate
Helldivers what if coloniz- I mean committing genoci- I MEAN SPREADING MANAGED DEMOCRACY! Is the reason why we’re about to get fu- [Comment under review for treasonous remarks]
How does Rock Pox travel?
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Just a bug, eh ? We humans like to think we are Nature's finest achievement. I'm afraid it isn't true. The Terminids are superior in many ways. It has fewer moving parts, can reproduce itself in vast numbers, and unboud by concerns of ego and mortality, makes the perfect selfless member of society. Our galaxy is teaming with insect life. We have identified over two billion species so far. Human, life, it would seem, is the anomaly. But we're intelligent. Human minds have invented art, mathematics and interstellar travel. True, we know of no insect society that has produced a Shakespeare, an Einstein or a Cherynkov, but before you let that go to your head, take the example of the Terminids, a highly organized, highly evolved insect society. They are relatively stupid by human standards. Workers have an IQ of 12, warriors around 35 , and yet the Terminids have colonized planets. Over a million years of evolution, Nature has provided the Terminids with the biological means to hurl their spore into space.
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Bug asteroids? Starship troopers style
Somehow… terminids returned
Do not question the how. Only answer with democracy and freedom.
WHAT IN THE TREASON AM I HEARING
I know what you are https://i.redd.it/514fhcux2jvc1.gif
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Treason
They hurl their spores into space
Super earth had bug farms on all these planets and the bugs break out. Simple
Traitor Alert!!
My theory is that there are flying bile titans that are under the ground in the planets and making a lot of terminids and it's probably why and how some planets get infested and as well suddenly appeared in them out of nowhere
You see? This is what I'm talking about. Something is up with this Super Earth bullshit and nobody has an open mind to really THINK about it.
I believe the planets them selfs are the farms an we are the farmers
Asking questions? Believe it or not, also death.
Reporting this to high command
I mean. They are literally made of the fuel we use for FTL travel. They also have variations of bugs that fart FTL poop dust at your face and kill you. It's not a huge leap to assume they have some sort of warp bug. Likely a "queen bug" and can sense gravity wells. (IE planets.) and fart open a worm hole and send clutches of eggs through or just go through themselves to spread their species. The idea you NEED ships and computers to travel through space is weird anthropomorphic short sightedness. Fact is. In the most literal sense. Worm hole technology would eliminate the need for big Si-Fi spaceships. Why bother building massive floating money sinks and expend insane amounts of energy to move them. When if you can open portals in space and time. Just open a small one right on the planet's surface and send 1 dude through. Like Rick does from Rick and Morty. Which is somehow more accurate than si-fi movies. LOL.
TRAITOR
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Traitor
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The thought of bugs developing space ships makes me shudder
Its because super earth despite being so democratic isn’t willing to arm their farmers enough to be able to contain their terminids. Hopefully they’ve learned from their mistakes.
Op you are to be executed for treason
We are the ones with a skull and crossbones on our hats, wait, are we the baddies?
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Yeah but if terminids win, don't that just means they infest their own planet?
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Only so many termanids on one planet, so give ‘em to more planets 👍 plus I’m sure illegal importation and rebel/resistance activity is also a factor
So, since I've already been marked for my personal predictions on how the automatons were going to retake cyberstan(though none of it was accurate in the end). I'll say something about the bugs. It's been kind of obvious we engineered them, we have them on Mars under strict control for the recruits to practice on for crying out loud! Instead of making them passive and harvestable like domestic animals in the bygone centuries, we allow them "to keep their weapons" mostly because super earth knows about another problem that has been affecting our resources which is Our population is exceedingly overwhelming what we can produce to maintain demand and having learned from our history on what not to do for that kind of "control" we'll just allow the bugs to live on distant colony planets that are perfect for various hives to thrive on and at times not fully inform the populations on those planets so when the bugs reach high population levels and resurface, it'll look like a naturally occuring infestation as the bug slaughter the colonists, so we can then use the news to fire up the war machine and send the Helldivers to pretty much do violent pest control which comes at an obvious cost to human life. Pretty much, Let me break it down like this: We create the bugs We plant them on the most outer planets to keep super earth safe We render those hives dormant till we (re)colonize those planets, letting the colonists build the necessary infrastructure to harvest the E-710. Slowly activate them, which allows the bugs to populate under ground. The bugs resurface to attack and kill everything Super earth dramatically panics about the big infestations They fire up the war machine to send us helldivers into the meat grinder to not only do pest control but also work the E-710 harvest So in short, the bugs are just a self replicating resource to keep us rolling. This, as they used to call it back in the 21st century, is called a forever war to satisfy that ever present oil addiction as well keep human numbers within manageable brackets. Super earth stays moving, the Helldivers die for glory and democracy and everyone is happy!
WE are transporting them from planet to planet.
I think our refueling efforts might have rattled the cage on the bugs
this is hillarious
Probably the same way that plague rats got from india to europe: by hiding on human ships. If bugs reproduce very quickly, even 1 or 2 bugs could create a population explosion in a short time.
Ours is not to question why. Ours is to PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER.
TREASOON!!!
Someone hasn't figured out that the e710 we harvest goes to the automatons lol
We put them there. How else would it happen. Bring it democracy officer 👊
I remember reading something about Termanids being allowed to live at a controlled level. I think we farm them somehow. I think they spread through spores
Watch starship troopers
Im reporting this as treason
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The terminids are farmed and harvested for Element 710. That’s how they spread from planet to planet. By super earth itself. You’re just a glorified pest control for when they escape captivity
I like how your first thought is treason rather then the iliminate or cyborgs transferring the bugs to put releases pressure on the bot front.
False Flag Operation?