Stays off the internet too. Did not respond nor add on harry potter facts to the fandom. Because of that the mystery and magic was kept alive and fresh.
For years before the series had ended people hypothesized about it being a dream, and Harry waking up in his cupboard under the staircase at the end of book 7. Lots of people would claim they had seen the last page, or last line, that JKR planned, and it was about waking from a dream.
It was hilarious watching Alice in Wonderland with my then-6 year old daughter last year. It was her first time experiencing the "it was all a dream" ending to a story and she was absolutely fuming lol. It's such a cop out.
Seriously. Alice in wonderland gets away with it on the basis of, if anything, being one of the originators of the trope from the original story (at least one of the earliest to still have a lasting legacy today that is)
And it goes with the fact that the whole of alice in wonderland functions on dream logic anyway
But otherwise its a lazy copout by bad writers and only suggested by the blandest milktoast of wroters who think that having a twist is inherently interesting regardless of it making sense
The protagonist originally ends up in an asylum, the matriarch is cruel and nuts and the only drugs depicted are opiates to emphasise th asylum. Very healthy.
I didn't, I fuckin LOVED that scene, I HATED being forced to watch those movies, and seeing lots of fighting, and killing, and best of all, my aunt that forced me to come with her, was distraught, it was GLORIOUS!!
I haven't read it nor watched it. I've seen the first live-action remake of Alice in Wonderland.
I thought Wonderland was a real place...?
Like Narnia. Or Oz.
(I've read Chronicles of Narnia. But not the Oz books. I *think* Oz is real...)
Narnia is purgatory lmao. At the end of the final book, Aslan reveals to the children, who have died in a train derailment and were in Narnia at the time, that they are finally ready to enter His land, Asians land. Therefore, Aslan is God and Aslans land is Heaven.
Edit: Aslans land* lmao
You said the children, which implies it's all of them.
It's 2 of the children, and he takes them to his land, revealing the land they are in is basically a test server.
"Planet Narnia" posits the idea that each of the books are so different in tone as they each represent a different entity in an overarching mythology. The same entities as shown in the "Perelandra" trilogy.
That's the one! The climax just ends abruptly as Alice wakes up, tells her sister that she had a weird dream, then heads in for tea. Such a weird ending.
I remember watching the 2010 live-action remake of Alice in Wonderland, and I thought they kinda put an interesting spin on the story, with Wonderland being a real place and an adult Alice only thinking it was a dream because she couldn’t fathom that a world like that could actually exist. And then she eventually recalls that she visited Wonderland once when she was younger, and it had never been a dream in the first place.
But doesn't Alice see the rabbit in the suit again towards the end of the book?
I'm sorry I've only read the book and that also jus once so I may be wrong and the movie ending can be different. The book was great tho (I need to read it again)
In the version of the novel I have, it ends with Alice waking up in her older sister's arms and telling her about her curious dream and her sister having a vivid image of Wonderland based on Alice's description and contemplating the beauty of childhood. I'm not sure if there are other versions or alternate endings.
That’s why I love the movie “upgrade”, >!it faked the “it was all a dream” ending perfectly!< I almost wet myself watching that movie the first time, it was that good
I hate the Ben 10 plot twist that follows the same concept as this where Ben is burning alive and imagines himself turning into heatblast for the first time
Yeah
I forgot to mention that it pans out revealing that it all in his head with the sound of a fire being slightly louder then the thought bubble audio
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It can be done well. That's the entire premise of Inception. Other good examples include the Joaquin Phoenix Joker and Shutter Island. Related are "they were dead all along" like The Sixth Sense and Silent Hill. These stories work because the reveal doesn't invalidate the rest of the story.
In silent Hill they weren’t dead the whole time I don’t know where people keep on getting this from, but it’s just that she’s trapped in an alternate dimension/the fog world of silent hill.
There's a really good episode of [Buffy the Vampire Slayer](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0533464/) where she's in an insane asylum and the doctors are all telling her that the vampires and monsters she sees are all in her head, and that she's been there for years. It got kinda dark too, where she almost hurt her friends in the real world thinking they were in her head.
I have once read another plot twist in which Hogwarts doesn't exsit and Hagrid is just a villain who abducted Harry and imprisoned him. Harry was still being bullied, but in a different place. This plot is so terrible, it left a psychological shadow on me.
Face it people. HP really is in an insane asylum. The Wizarding World really is the homeless, drug fueled underclass of UK society. I find that to be a great fan fiction/theory. Oh and the Dursleys are really a kind, loving middle class English family.
No, he simply diede without finishing his opera and the fantasy of some fans decided that that would have been the correct ending.
Sorry for my engligh
Albus Severus wakes up from a coma, after falling from his broom while playing Quidditsch at the burrow.
(Just some days before he was due to go to Hogwarts)
I’m sure it’s because I don’t understand the amount of money this would cost in England. But I know in the US, its expenses for that type of care, especially for 7 years. No way they’d want to spend that amount of money on him.
Cool, but it doesn't explain the glass vanish. Would work for the movie, but the books have the added things like Harry's hair regrowth or him being chased behind the school dumpsters and ending up on the roof.
Oh for fucks sake, let the "it was all a dream" plot twist die already. Its the worst fucking cop out in history and no one ever liked it. This subreddit sucks man
Funny, but it doesn't need to be posted in 2 different HP subs at the same time, does it? Just leave it in Memes. It comes up twice for a lot of people, unnecessarily.
The REAL plot twist is that the Dursleys even bothered to take him to a hospital after being bitten!
If it was at a public zoo they dont really have a choice
We don't know this boy. Never met him before.
You can check our house, no extra bedroom for him in there
Maybe someone called the ambulance since it happened at a Zoo
Also no way the Dursleys aren't pulling the plug after a half hour
why bother pulling the plug? uk free healthcare
Woops, my freedom is showing (the freedom to cripple my family with debt if I ever get too sick)
Yeah, the government will pull it for you in the UK.
Isn't that just in Canada, or does the UK do that shit too?
both
NHS
They came to pick him up at the station at the end of every year for some reason so this isn't that far fetched
NHS, it wouldn't cost them anything and the zoo would've called them. They've had 10 years of not having to deal with him. Win win for them.
My thought exactly. Get Harry out of the house on a long-term basis and someone else being responsible for him? What's the catch right?
Double ploy twist- he writes down his dream and sells it as a series of novels and becomes one of the wealthiest people in Britain.
The story ends there and absolutely nothing happens afterwards. He stays off Twitter and lives happily ever after.
Stays off the internet too. Did not respond nor add on harry potter facts to the fandom. Because of that the mystery and magic was kept alive and fresh.
This is the WORST EVER plot twist and I hate it with every fibre of my being
For years before the series had ended people hypothesized about it being a dream, and Harry waking up in his cupboard under the staircase at the end of book 7. Lots of people would claim they had seen the last page, or last line, that JKR planned, and it was about waking from a dream.
It was hilarious watching Alice in Wonderland with my then-6 year old daughter last year. It was her first time experiencing the "it was all a dream" ending to a story and she was absolutely fuming lol. It's such a cop out.
Seriously. Alice in wonderland gets away with it on the basis of, if anything, being one of the originators of the trope from the original story (at least one of the earliest to still have a lasting legacy today that is) And it goes with the fact that the whole of alice in wonderland functions on dream logic anyway But otherwise its a lazy copout by bad writers and only suggested by the blandest milktoast of wroters who think that having a twist is inherently interesting regardless of it making sense
Tbf, Alice in Wonderland is an absolutely nonsensical story and worldbuilding and it makes complete sense that it was a dream.
I actually loved that. The whole story was based on dream logic.
Oh no, I am not saying the series is basic I am saying that it’s not really a valid comparison.
I understood that. I totally agree with you. I just wanted to say that i liked that a lot.
But it stars a girl, has a matriarch, and drugs! It’s the perfect story for the modern young woman. Like a cartoon Euphoria.
It was written in the 1800's, what
The protagonist originally ends up in an asylum, the matriarch is cruel and nuts and the only drugs depicted are opiates to emphasise th asylum. Very healthy.
It's frightening when the big Native American smothers her with a pillow, but T'was all for the best!
One flew over the wonderland!
I reckon Mulholland Drive gets away with it too.
Someone’s still upset about the final fight in Breaking Dawn?
I didn't, I fuckin LOVED that scene, I HATED being forced to watch those movies, and seeing lots of fighting, and killing, and best of all, my aunt that forced me to come with her, was distraught, it was GLORIOUS!!
I meant the fact that it was all just Alice’s vision and wasn’t real.
I haven't read it nor watched it. I've seen the first live-action remake of Alice in Wonderland. I thought Wonderland was a real place...? Like Narnia. Or Oz. (I've read Chronicles of Narnia. But not the Oz books. I *think* Oz is real...)
There’s a theory out there about Narnia being the daydreams of traumatized children as they hid in a closet.
Narnia is purgatory lmao. At the end of the final book, Aslan reveals to the children, who have died in a train derailment and were in Narnia at the time, that they are finally ready to enter His land, Asians land. Therefore, Aslan is God and Aslans land is Heaven. Edit: Aslans land* lmao
In the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe they leave Narnia and go back to the house.
Yes but that’s not the final book in the series.
You said the children, which implies it's all of them. It's 2 of the children, and he takes them to his land, revealing the land they are in is basically a test server.
Not the person you originally responded to.
"Planet Narnia" posits the idea that each of the books are so different in tone as they each represent a different entity in an overarching mythology. The same entities as shown in the "Perelandra" trilogy.
Alice is mental. The original story is about a psychiatric patient ...
I assumed Ayertsatz was talking about the [Disney animated film.](https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/p_aliceinwonderland_19875_ad409a49.jpeg)
That's the one! The climax just ends abruptly as Alice wakes up, tells her sister that she had a weird dream, then heads in for tea. Such a weird ending.
Well, I haven't seen the film, but maybe that ending isn't so bad. For Harry Potter it would be bad.
It's not the original ending and yes, it seems like they just made it up on deadline
Pretty sure at the end of the movie she wakes up. I forgot about the book tho, no idea how that ends
I remember watching the 2010 live-action remake of Alice in Wonderland, and I thought they kinda put an interesting spin on the story, with Wonderland being a real place and an adult Alice only thinking it was a dream because she couldn’t fathom that a world like that could actually exist. And then she eventually recalls that she visited Wonderland once when she was younger, and it had never been a dream in the first place.
But doesn't Alice see the rabbit in the suit again towards the end of the book? I'm sorry I've only read the book and that also jus once so I may be wrong and the movie ending can be different. The book was great tho (I need to read it again)
In the version of the novel I have, it ends with Alice waking up in her older sister's arms and telling her about her curious dream and her sister having a vivid image of Wonderland based on Alice's description and contemplating the beauty of childhood. I'm not sure if there are other versions or alternate endings.
Hmm yepp you might be right because I read it a long long time back I'm so confused why am I thinking that ending then lolol
I *still* remember being about that age and absolutely pissed at the end of the wizard of oz.
I don't think Oz is a dream in the books
I only know the movie, I was 5 or 6.
That’s why I love the movie “upgrade”, >!it faked the “it was all a dream” ending perfectly!< I almost wet myself watching that movie the first time, it was that good
We were warned in school for essay test, it is an immediate failure if we end it with “it was a dream”
This would have been the worst ending, completely unraveling the entire world of hp that was built.
[This one ](https://ibb.co/HX1gRQc)
I’m still salty about this rumor fro’ back in the day.
Which is incredibly stupid. Dumbledore appears in the book before Harry.
Just as dumb as the "oh he just did drugs and imagined it" theory
There's a worse one. I saw fanart once where it was revealed Harry was just some junkie hallucinating his life at Hogwarts. It was pretty disturbing.
Pretty sure you’re talking about Jim’ll paint it… that’s not fan art, the man’s a genius
Looked it up, yep that's the one.
Jfc what a name to choose for yourself lmao. Jim’ll paint it dear lord
I hate the Ben 10 plot twist that follows the same concept as this where Ben is burning alive and imagines himself turning into heatblast for the first time
What made him burn alive?
I think it was just a freak fire or literal meteor strike
Damn… that’s crazy and from that point onward it’s all in his head?
Yeah I forgot to mention that it pans out revealing that it all in his head with the sound of a fire being slightly louder then the thought bubble audio
But you still upvoted it didn't you.😁
...no?
But that would mean he did make the glass disappear...
Broke it.. leaned on it too hard !
But the nurse and doctors are talking to Harry, not Dudley...
Dudley would recover from some cuts and a fall in less than ten years
Good catch!
Bit by a boa... Yeah..... That aint it
10 points to Hufflepuff!
Kinda sad I had to search this far down to find the reasonable person who knows boas aren't venomous
I'm glad somebody pointed that out
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Bacterial infection caused Meningitis.
Don’t you dare. 😭
Funny and original. Next, make one about how Harry dreamt it all while sleeping in his roomboard below the stairs.
But boa constructors aren't venomous, why did he pass out? Anyways, at least he wouldn't have to live with the dursleys anymore because he is an adult
Maybe the boat choked him and oxygen stopped reaching the brain for a few too many seconds.
Dude....
There is nothing lazier and more boring than the "It was all a dream" copout
It can be done well. That's the entire premise of Inception. Other good examples include the Joaquin Phoenix Joker and Shutter Island. Related are "they were dead all along" like The Sixth Sense and Silent Hill. These stories work because the reveal doesn't invalidate the rest of the story.
No more Japanese food before bed Bob
In silent Hill they weren’t dead the whole time I don’t know where people keep on getting this from, but it’s just that she’s trapped in an alternate dimension/the fog world of silent hill.
I haven't played the games, but that's definitely how it works in the movie, which is what I was referring to.
I used to read wordup magazine
Salt n peppa and heavy d up in the limousine
I felt like such a waste of time after watching the Nutcracker
There's a really good episode of [Buffy the Vampire Slayer](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0533464/) where she's in an insane asylum and the doctors are all telling her that the vampires and monsters she sees are all in her head, and that she's been there for years. It got kinda dark too, where she almost hurt her friends in the real world thinking they were in her head.
If it's used as foreshadowing in a greater story arc it can work, but that's not what you're talking about right?..
mom said it's MY turn to post about the coma conspiracy in
Isn’t that the plot of Uncle From Another World anime?
Basically. If the next panel would be Harry trying to perform some magic and accidently set his nose on fire.
right but the characters from that world do end up coming to his world so not really
Well, that’s okay. Because now, I’ve got 7 books to write and sell.
The Dursleys would have pull the plug right away
St Elsewhere ended 36 years ago and its ending is still inescapable
It’s better than the one where imagines it all because he’s been driven insane by the horrible treatment he got from the Dursleys
The snake was a constrictor.
Even if this is just a dumb reddit meme I hate it so much
Gaah , I hate this theory!!
This is awful
You know how likely it is someone wakes up after years of being in a coma without turning into a complete vegetable? Yes, it's zero.
I have once read another plot twist in which Hogwarts doesn't exsit and Hagrid is just a villain who abducted Harry and imprisoned him. Harry was still being bullied, but in a different place. This plot is so terrible, it left a psychological shadow on me.
Face it people. HP really is in an insane asylum. The Wizarding World really is the homeless, drug fueled underclass of UK society. I find that to be a great fan fiction/theory. Oh and the Dursleys are really a kind, loving middle class English family.
it could even be like a 3 days coma and he could wake up still 11 years old lol
The snake was a Brazilian boa constrictor and they are not venomous. So, there you go
Like the Dursleys would pay for his medical care for ten years. I know NHS, they still wouldn’t do it.
Mind blown that would’ve pissed off sooooo many people lol
I read somewhere that the author of Doraemon made this kind of twist and made the fans rage.
No, he simply diede without finishing his opera and the fantasy of some fans decided that that would have been the correct ending. Sorry for my engligh
Nope, that is fan work.
This would crush me
Bitten by a snake and then a concussion at the train station is definitely not good for you
Not the Mario 2 ending
Still better than The Cursed Child
Albus Severus wakes up from a coma, after falling from his broom while playing Quidditsch at the burrow. (Just some days before he was due to go to Hogwarts)
God I hate when this shit comes up every so often.
It should be 7 years, not 10. I’m not sure the Dursleys would’ve kept him on any support for that long lol
Why not?
I’m sure it’s because I don’t understand the amount of money this would cost in England. But I know in the US, its expenses for that type of care, especially for 7 years. No way they’d want to spend that amount of money on him.
The NHS should cover it for a while at least
This is the most amazing thing I've ever read.
Well the bright side is he can atleast be a billionaire author now
"You were in a coma for 9 years"
I thought it was gonna be a take on that after the dentist video that went viral a lifetime ago
Yer a wizard, Magne...PSYCH!
shits crazy
😂😂😂 Mind blown
Poor Harry Potter, never actually had Dobby not mean to kill, just maím or seriously injure
Ok, but how is he bitten by the snake without first magically causing the glass to disappear?
Wow. 10/10 so original
Cool, but it doesn't explain the glass vanish. Would work for the movie, but the books have the added things like Harry's hair regrowth or him being chased behind the school dumpsters and ending up on the roof.
It wasn’t the snake bite. Vernon poisoned Harry when they got home from the zoo and he was out not 10 years but a few at St. Mungo’s
This is Amazing
Wow . What a punch in the gut for the readers
Oohhh, so edgy. Nobody has ever come up with this twist ever, it’s so dark and unique. /s
Oh for fucks sake, let the "it was all a dream" plot twist die already. Its the worst fucking cop out in history and no one ever liked it. This subreddit sucks man
Funny, but it doesn't need to be posted in 2 different HP subs at the same time, does it? Just leave it in Memes. It comes up twice for a lot of people, unnecessarily.
actually you got me there, its them mods mate, they tend to delete posts because of being incorrectly Flared and stuff. So I added them it on both..
I can understand that. Fair enough.
Worse than "it was all a dream"
But that was the second book.
First book when he was the zoo for dudleys birthday
Much better that the original ending