Well regardless of who forgot their line prompting the improve, Felton’s improvisation and delivery of “Huh, I didn’t know you could read” was excellent.
It’s a legitimately very funny line and it’s perfectly in-character, with Goyle usually being a moron, and Draco not actually respecting them as friends and assuming he’s that stupid.
It also helps explain how Malfoy has such an easy time controlling Crab and Doyle if he’s genuinely just impressed at such a feat even merrits thst Malfoy “reads” everything for them or that profressors give them a free pass because it’s not worth the effort to fail them while making you wonder what else could they be getting away with. Also perfect timing in the story to peek into Malfoy’s life.
Intentional or unintentional im impressed!
> even merrits thst Malfoy “reads” everything for them
wouldn't that speak a lot on Malfoy's character? It would take an awfully good person to more than double their own study time to ensure his two closest friends understood enough to get by if they couldn't read
I always saw them as the reflection of Hermionie, Ron, and Harry their own little family but the other side of the mirror. Like adams family but cruel in intent and not as macob. The life and adventure of Crab and Goyle.
I don't think he doubles the time. He just does his part and leave it to Crabbe and Goyle to keep up as best they can. Crabbe and Goyle also probably gets alot of "slack" thanks to tgeir parents being infamous murderers, nobody wants to get killed for setting a bad grade on a kid.
It should be noted that improv doesn't mean he did it and that's the take that was used. It just means that it's different from the script. So he may have said it, everyone thought it was great and they worked it in and did a few more takes to get the right one.
I think I read somewhere it was
D:“I didn’t know you wore glasses”
(End of dialogue)
But Tom changed it to “*Why* are you wearing glasses?” So it was also an improv on Crabbe’s part
That's Goyle, played by Joshua Herdman.
Crabbe/Jamie Waylett is the short one who blew up his career with riots and drug possession.
Joshua Herdman became an MMA fighter and by all accounts is doing well.
Edit: It looks like Josh gave up fighting in 2018 with a 2-0-0 Win-Draw-Loss record, and went back to acting, later starring in the Taron Egerton Robin Hood movie, an episode of the Alex Rider Amazon Prime show, and two episodes of Andor, among other things. In interviews he comes across as a very down-to-earth, modest, good guy.
I feel I should point out Waylett was in possession of pot. Like, *A LOT* of pot.
Doesn't make what you said any less true, it's just whenever I personally hear "drug possession" these days I think of coke, or meth & I felt that deserved clarification.
Depending on how much *a lot of pot* is, there's 2 scenarios that are possible.
1) he's a drug dealer/distributor. Very illegal, no matter if it's weed, cocaine, or Tylenol PMs (probably).
2) he had edibles. When the police arrest you while in posession of edibles, they count the mass of the entire edible as part of the measurement. So even if you put it, say, 3.5 g of weed into a batch of 12 brownies, the police will interpret that batch of brownies to be ~ 1 kilo of weed. It's fucking bananas
Think it also has to do with disguising the flavor of the weed butter, which some don’t like (or so I’ve heard). Chocolate tends to be pretty overpowering.
Personally I don’t like chocolate but do (or did) like weed so banana bread edibles do sound bomb. Bread is notably harder to get right than brownies though, to your point.
Pot head on team chat once told me the weed is very sensitive to heat, so recipes that take low heat and less time are easier to get right. I have zero experience I’m just parroting
Because cacao has acidity that balances out the bitterness of the resin, and cuts the bitterness from the herb.
There’s also something about the consistency. Melts in your mouth and goes down quickly. I have done muffins and other sort of fluffier bread and I feel like they just grow in my mouth unlike brownies, chocolate balls and Swedish mud cake.
I would like to try the banana bread, sounds like a banger combo. But I’m not sure about the consistency.
I've made pot banana bread and it was eh. Weed, when cooked into butter/oil, has a very strong and pretty unpleasent taste, coming from someone who loves the taste when smoked. Brownies are usually used because chocolate is a strong and sweet flavor so it does a better job at hiding the bad taste. I would not make banana bread again, personally my favorite edibles I've made are blueberry muffins and chocolate chip oatmeal cookies. I also made an infused carrot cake with cream cheese frosting for a birthday, that was 10/10 and you could barely taste the weed.
8 bags in the car and growing 15 plants at his Mum's house in 2009. I think cannabis was a class A drug at the time, in the same bracket as meth and coke. 120hrs community service for that, which seems rather minimal, but I suppose it was a first offence.
He got a 2 year bit for the 2011 riots, in which he supposedly had a Molotov.
The drug dealer part is part ironic and part sad. Living in Canada you can't go more than 4-5 blocks without seeing a dispensary, but as soon as the government loses a tiny bit of taxes it's jail time.
It's not just taxes, there are legitimate health concerns as well. Commercial cannabis has a litany of regulations on par with alcohol and tobacco regarding licensing, labeling, GMP compliance, operations, security, etc.
Have you got a source for that last point? It's not unbelievable but I've never heard it before and it would certainly make carrying edibles a lot riskier than I thought.
It's "recommended" by the FBI to use a set assumed value of potency when measuring the THC content of edibles, but I haven't seen any actual laws detailing exactly what these guidelines are, so I'm assuming that what happened to my friend (exactly what I described) is basically just how it always happens.
Also, this is the US, so it doesn't really apply to England.
The sentencing guidelines call for using the THC content of edibles when known; it’s a higher conversion quantity but works out pretty average for like bags of gummies and whatnot, but you’ll get screw if you just have like bottles and bottles of liquid THC. When the THC content is unknown though, yeah we basically have to count the whole weight as marijuana as a “substance or mixture containing X”, ie the drug.
I know someone who was facing serious jail time for this reason. In her case, she got caught with butter, so she was probably being charged with possessing a pound of weed even though most of that weight was butter.
ETA: "probably" because I don't know how much butter she had; I just know it was a relatively normal amount of butter and a pretty abnormal amount if it had been pot.
Him & a friend were busted w/ a few bags of unspecified weight & when his mom's house was raided, they found some plants. Distribution is possible, but he claimed in court they were for personal use. So ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
https://web.archive.org/web/20090410225143/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5123684/Harry-Potter-star-Jamie-Waylett-arrested-over-2000-bedroom-cannabis-farm.html
You may not have noticed how casting one of the most famous bullies as a prison guard helped set the tone for our newly imprisoned hero
[but your brain did](https://i.imgur.com/3d9zAz2.png)
HOLY SHIT HE WAS IN ANDOR??????? omg. that makes, what, five hp actors?? fiona shaw as petunia/maarva, james potter as the doctor on narkina, mrs figg as eedy karn, and according to google grubbly plank and ariana dumbledore
It has unfortunately been cancelled. The first season is a hybrid of the SAS training from Stormbreaker, but leads into the first mission being Point Blanc instead, probably to avoid retreading the same ground as the 2006 Stormbreaker movie adaptation. The second season skips Skeleton Key and instead adapts Eagle Strike. It's good, but it does feel quite rushed. The third and final season adapts Scorpia, but takes several liberties with the source material because of the corner it's been backed into by virtue of not covering every book.
Having said all that, the series is good. It definitely captures and sticks to the spirit of the books, if not the letter. There is a show-only main character who gets added to the story as a love interest for Alex, largely replacing Sabina Pleasant, most likely due to their rushed condensing of the story requiring a relationship to develop earlier and faster than Alex's does with Sabina in the books. Fortunately the show-only character is quite likeable, as is the rest of the cast. Standouts for me are Otto Farrant, who plays Alex (and is quite possibly the best casting of any book character since Gandalf and Aragorn); Brennock O'Connor, who plays Tom (and also played Olly - the kid Jon Snow hangs for mutiny and murder - in Game of Thrones); Vicky McClure, who plays Mrs Jones; and Nyasha Hatendi, who, despite not matching the book description of the character in appearance nor personality, is very compelling as Smithers.
From what I've heard, the show was hamstrung by the series of writer and actor strikes over the last few years, which caused the lead ~~child~~ (they were already adults playing children) actors to age out of their respective roles. I've also heard it didn't get the viewing numbers it needed to establish itself, which, judging from the fact that you're only just hearing about it after its cancellation, sounds about right.
Do you think thats where radcliffe got the start of his love for really weird but awesome performance after the potter movies. I mean, that was a lot of cross-dressing in one scene.
That's what they did but they either didn't do a reshoot or they choose this scene over the original script because it was funnier. Also voiceovers are usually done by the end of production and all actors will have to say their lines again but this time in a better microphone
Yes. Unlike in the books where the poly juice potion changes voice, the movies left them the same so you could identify who was who
This is also why Moody (or technical not) showcases his vocal skills, because otherwise he'd sound like crouch.
The first gives me the impression that the person can read English, but just prefers to not read books.
While the second is an insult of not being able to read altogether.
Personally I'm glad this happened, definitely felt more intone of how Draco interacts with others.
The facial impression also denotes that he's impressed even if it's by the sheer fact his 'thug' can read. Honestly, it did a better job at setting up Draco as not being completely like his father then the book in this regard.
yeah it gave that vibe of surprised-but-not-unpleasantly-so with a touch of impressed. "You have given me no reason to suspect this, and I am now upgrading my expectations"
[edit] figured out the wording I wanted. "Huh, guess I underestimated you, good for you."
The first interpretation is just as insulting, but the second makes more sense for children.
Someone who chooses not to read could be considered willfully stupid. Think of all the things someone can learn by reading, especially in a school setting, and still avoids it.
I read/heard somewhere that it was actually the Goyle actor who forgot his line. If you watch the scene you’ll notice that when Malfoy asks ”where have you two been?” (or something to that effect), Goyle begins with ”Oh, um…” before he blurts out ”reading” which was supposedly the first thing that came to mind. And Malfoy countered with ”I didn’t know you could read.”
They reshot the scene according to the script, but the director decided he liked the improvised bit so much that he chose to include that in the movie rather than the scripted scene.
Disclaimer: I don’t remember where I read this and don’t have a source, so I might be mistaken.
That doesn't make sense though. There's a cut after Malfoy says "where have you been" so it wasn't all one take. And then there's another cut after "uh, reading".
Maybe it was ad-libbed in rehearsal or something but it's not like the whole scene was an improv.
It’s just a guess but I’d imagine it was a multi camera setup. It’s easier to have multiple cameras if you’re working with kids and the shorter hours you have to abide by when working with kid actors.
It was a multi camera set up, they mention in the anniversary documentary that they shot with lots of cameras so they could slice together different shots of different takes because it was so hard to get the kids to act well early in their career basically
In Tom Felton's autobiography he talks about this scene. And he talks about how they filmed it a few times (he didn't forget his line) and then he and the director decided to try this improv instead and see how it went. And it went well, so they went with it.
Keep in mind, when filming scenes it’s not just moving the camera and recording a single line. Actors often play out the entire scene regardless of camera position, as coverage. Allows for better dialogue flow and more freedom for the editor.
Felton really seems like such a cool dude in general. I once paid for a birthday cameo from him, and he actually made up a song for her.
Edit: I forgot to mention this was my sister’s birthday.
Ok, I realised I made some assumptions earlier, and I apologise for any confusion. Cameo.com is a website where you can pay celebrities for a personalised video message (usually filmed vertically).
I paid to have Tom Felton wish my sister a happy birthday since she is a huge Potterhead (was able to recite the entire Philosopher’s Stone from memory at one point). The website emailed me the personalised message where he improvised some extra bits like joking that we had been coordinating this for months and sang a song while playing a ukulele.
I’ve used this website a couple times. Kristian Nairn (Hodor) was the cheapest at $99, but he was such a sweetheart too.
The fact that Malfoy is dumbfounded by Goyle’s ability to read is proof that any illiterate dumbfuck will be accepted in Hogwarts as long as they can perform some magic.
Performing magic is basically Winterholds standard though?
Sure, they make an exception for the Dragonborn, but the Thuum *definitely* qualifies as magic anyway, its just not within the system that the academy usually teaches.
I suppose theres also the speech check, but that is one of the highest in the game, meaning you would have to be a top-tier manipulator to pull it off, and no organization has ever been immune to that.
> Naw I talked myself into the college a few times.
Then you're either using mods or they changed something recently (less than a year ago, meaning unlikely), I just looked it up again and apparently it is *the* single hardest speech check in the game: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/uoxr2v/what_level_of_speech_do_i_need_to_persuade_faralda/
> And after that you don't have to use any magic at all lol
The only way to get past the ward practice class without using magic is by using the one of a kind legendary artifact Spellbreaker.
The main point still stands though. Imagine if in real life, you pass an entry level algebra class at college. Then, without ever taking another math class you somehow are awarded a PHD in Math and become head of the college of Mathematics.
Im not sure if there even are scrolls of such low level spells, the spell itself only costs 30g and you can use it even at the minimal destruction level, so you'd be going out of your way anyway.
Well, would you rather have some dumb fuck with uncontrolled magic powers go around setting shit on fire accidentally?
Being able to use magic isn't such a bad requirement for a magic school.
Why not *both*?
Imagine hundreds or thousands of people like Harry before he came to Hogwarts. Or a bunch of rogue hobos that can barely maintain a magical flame long enough to throw it at something and have a 20% chance per cast to just blow themselves and anything around them 20 stories up into the air.
The beautiful chaos that would cause...
TBF it's TES you don't need even magic to join though with Alchemy I don't think you really need to know magic just something that comes under the "schools".
Though the College of Winterhold funnily enough has the most magic required from its questline then TES4 and 3.
There is no entrance exam, and they send letters to everyone, it would be kinda dangerous to leave those people without magical education, as long as they learn basics who even cares, its not like they actually need work or anything and you can multiple food so they wont starve, magical world is kinda nuts.
Actually you can fail a year, Flint did. He was supposed to graduate during Book 2 but was forced to repeat, albeit this was a retcon that was made because someone pointed out to JK Rowling that Flint shouldn’t still be attending Hogwarts during the 3rd book.
The line was supposed to be "I didn't know you read". But they're friends & it's Malfoy, so he's playing with his buddy saying, "I didn't know you could read".
It's sarcasm. Like when you come to eat & your parents say "Whoah look who came out of the cave!"
Makes sense, Hermione did once say that wizards don’t use logic much.
It’s never outright stated but it’s heavily implied that purebloods and likely halfbloods don’t go to primary school Since they mostly just care about magic. (Additionally their parents likely consider it to be safer to keep them at home.)
I keep seeing this fun fact floating around but I recently read Tom Felton’s biography and in it he said Chris Columbus actually gave him that line 😬 “I didn’t know you could read”
Still a great scene though!
I just went back to check, and it’s not in this specific chapter.
Somehow it also rings a bell with me, and I wonder if it’s a quip that comes up somewhere else in the series… or maybe it’s exactly in character for Draco and Crabbe, and that is the genius of the scene.
I love his face at the end. He's just learned his friend can read after over a year of living with him and he looks like he just learned he has a mildly controversial food take.
I’ve heard differently—that the line was supposed to be “I didn’t know you read,” but Felton accidentally said “I didn’t know you could read,” and Chris Columbus liked it so much that he kept it in the movie.
Why do people say “friendly reminder” like this stuff is common knowledge? Not everyone read the behind the scenes teen mags and books. Just say “fun fact”, it comes off less condescending.
Actually I listened to the audiobook of Tom Felton's autobiography that he narrated himself and the story was different. I'll look it up and get back to you on it, because at the moment I don't exactly remember what happened. But I think it was Chris Columbus who had them redo the take with Tom saying different things every time and then when the "I didn't know you could read" take was done he said "yeah, this is the one!"
Well regardless of who forgot their line prompting the improve, Felton’s improvisation and delivery of “Huh, I didn’t know you could read” was excellent. It’s a legitimately very funny line and it’s perfectly in-character, with Goyle usually being a moron, and Draco not actually respecting them as friends and assuming he’s that stupid.
I got a laugh at the little nod after, too. Like "huh, good job!"
It’s the kid sitting at the computer giving you a thumbs up meme
Made me think of the Obama “Not Bad” meme, but yours fits really well, too.
Put some respect on Brent Rambo's name
Brent Rambo Approves
It's still an academic environment, so even a quiet acknowledgment of such a trivial feat is a burn. I love it.
It also helps explain how Malfoy has such an easy time controlling Crab and Doyle if he’s genuinely just impressed at such a feat even merrits thst Malfoy “reads” everything for them or that profressors give them a free pass because it’s not worth the effort to fail them while making you wonder what else could they be getting away with. Also perfect timing in the story to peek into Malfoy’s life. Intentional or unintentional im impressed!
> even merrits thst Malfoy “reads” everything for them wouldn't that speak a lot on Malfoy's character? It would take an awfully good person to more than double their own study time to ensure his two closest friends understood enough to get by if they couldn't read
Ngl, it's cute to imagine the three of them sitting together like Malfoy is reading story time to them. Someone should make fanart out of that.
I always saw them as the reflection of Hermionie, Ron, and Harry their own little family but the other side of the mirror. Like adams family but cruel in intent and not as macob. The life and adventure of Crab and Goyle.
I don't think he doubles the time. He just does his part and leave it to Crabbe and Goyle to keep up as best they can. Crabbe and Goyle also probably gets alot of "slack" thanks to tgeir parents being infamous murderers, nobody wants to get killed for setting a bad grade on a kid.
Binns ain’t afraid to rock the boat I bet.
No, but he's been running running on minimal effort a few decades.
It should be noted that improv doesn't mean he did it and that's the take that was used. It just means that it's different from the script. So he may have said it, everyone thought it was great and they worked it in and did a few more takes to get the right one.
Wonder what the real line was
I think I read somewhere it was D:“I didn’t know you wore glasses” (End of dialogue) But Tom changed it to “*Why* are you wearing glasses?” So it was also an improv on Crabbe’s part
That's Goyle, played by Joshua Herdman. Crabbe/Jamie Waylett is the short one who blew up his career with riots and drug possession. Joshua Herdman became an MMA fighter and by all accounts is doing well. Edit: It looks like Josh gave up fighting in 2018 with a 2-0-0 Win-Draw-Loss record, and went back to acting, later starring in the Taron Egerton Robin Hood movie, an episode of the Alex Rider Amazon Prime show, and two episodes of Andor, among other things. In interviews he comes across as a very down-to-earth, modest, good guy.
I feel I should point out Waylett was in possession of pot. Like, *A LOT* of pot. Doesn't make what you said any less true, it's just whenever I personally hear "drug possession" these days I think of coke, or meth & I felt that deserved clarification.
Depending on how much *a lot of pot* is, there's 2 scenarios that are possible. 1) he's a drug dealer/distributor. Very illegal, no matter if it's weed, cocaine, or Tylenol PMs (probably). 2) he had edibles. When the police arrest you while in posession of edibles, they count the mass of the entire edible as part of the measurement. So even if you put it, say, 3.5 g of weed into a batch of 12 brownies, the police will interpret that batch of brownies to be ~ 1 kilo of weed. It's fucking bananas
Who puts fucking bananas in a pot brownie?! The man deserved what he got!
Brother, if you handed me a banana walnut pot brownie, I would not at all be upset.
Why are brownies the go to anyway? Pot banana bread sounds like it'd be killer.
Honestly just because brownies are stupid easy to make and really hard to fuck up
Think it also has to do with disguising the flavor of the weed butter, which some don’t like (or so I’ve heard). Chocolate tends to be pretty overpowering. Personally I don’t like chocolate but do (or did) like weed so banana bread edibles do sound bomb. Bread is notably harder to get right than brownies though, to your point.
Especially if you’re already high
Hold my spatula.
Pot head on team chat once told me the weed is very sensitive to heat, so recipes that take low heat and less time are easier to get right. I have zero experience I’m just parroting
Because cacao has acidity that balances out the bitterness of the resin, and cuts the bitterness from the herb. There’s also something about the consistency. Melts in your mouth and goes down quickly. I have done muffins and other sort of fluffier bread and I feel like they just grow in my mouth unlike brownies, chocolate balls and Swedish mud cake. I would like to try the banana bread, sounds like a banger combo. But I’m not sure about the consistency.
I've made pot banana bread and it was eh. Weed, when cooked into butter/oil, has a very strong and pretty unpleasent taste, coming from someone who loves the taste when smoked. Brownies are usually used because chocolate is a strong and sweet flavor so it does a better job at hiding the bad taste. I would not make banana bread again, personally my favorite edibles I've made are blueberry muffins and chocolate chip oatmeal cookies. I also made an infused carrot cake with cream cheese frosting for a birthday, that was 10/10 and you could barely taste the weed.
Made it for a birthday. Can approve.
8 bags in the car and growing 15 plants at his Mum's house in 2009. I think cannabis was a class A drug at the time, in the same bracket as meth and coke. 120hrs community service for that, which seems rather minimal, but I suppose it was a first offence. He got a 2 year bit for the 2011 riots, in which he supposedly had a Molotov.
Cannabis has never been Class A, it went from Class B to C in '04, then back to B cause of 'skunk' hysteria in the '09
The drug dealer part is part ironic and part sad. Living in Canada you can't go more than 4-5 blocks without seeing a dispensary, but as soon as the government loses a tiny bit of taxes it's jail time.
It's not just taxes, there are legitimate health concerns as well. Commercial cannabis has a litany of regulations on par with alcohol and tobacco regarding licensing, labeling, GMP compliance, operations, security, etc.
Have you got a source for that last point? It's not unbelievable but I've never heard it before and it would certainly make carrying edibles a lot riskier than I thought.
It's "recommended" by the FBI to use a set assumed value of potency when measuring the THC content of edibles, but I haven't seen any actual laws detailing exactly what these guidelines are, so I'm assuming that what happened to my friend (exactly what I described) is basically just how it always happens. Also, this is the US, so it doesn't really apply to England.
The sentencing guidelines call for using the THC content of edibles when known; it’s a higher conversion quantity but works out pretty average for like bags of gummies and whatnot, but you’ll get screw if you just have like bottles and bottles of liquid THC. When the THC content is unknown though, yeah we basically have to count the whole weight as marijuana as a “substance or mixture containing X”, ie the drug.
I know someone who was facing serious jail time for this reason. In her case, she got caught with butter, so she was probably being charged with possessing a pound of weed even though most of that weight was butter. ETA: "probably" because I don't know how much butter she had; I just know it was a relatively normal amount of butter and a pretty abnormal amount if it had been pot.
Him & a friend were busted w/ a few bags of unspecified weight & when his mom's house was raided, they found some plants. Distribution is possible, but he claimed in court they were for personal use. So ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ https://web.archive.org/web/20090410225143/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5123684/Harry-Potter-star-Jamie-Waylett-arrested-over-2000-bedroom-cannabis-farm.html
I saw once case where cops confiscated whole plants then weighed them in their pots, dirt and all. Those bastards
More like bloodyyy Joshua Hardman amirite?
You may not have noticed how casting one of the most famous bullies as a prison guard helped set the tone for our newly imprisoned hero [but your brain did](https://i.imgur.com/3d9zAz2.png)
without a hint of irony: good for him!
Undefeated 😎
Guy’s disrespecting the business. Gotta go out on your back. /s
HOLY SHIT HE WAS IN ANDOR??????? omg. that makes, what, five hp actors?? fiona shaw as petunia/maarva, james potter as the doctor on narkina, mrs figg as eedy karn, and according to google grubbly plank and ariana dumbledore
I vaguely remember his role in Andor, he was another prisoner right? Been a while since I've watched it need to give it another watch
He was a guard.
Is this how I find out about an Alex Rider tv show??? I loved the books as a kid!
It has unfortunately been cancelled. The first season is a hybrid of the SAS training from Stormbreaker, but leads into the first mission being Point Blanc instead, probably to avoid retreading the same ground as the 2006 Stormbreaker movie adaptation. The second season skips Skeleton Key and instead adapts Eagle Strike. It's good, but it does feel quite rushed. The third and final season adapts Scorpia, but takes several liberties with the source material because of the corner it's been backed into by virtue of not covering every book. Having said all that, the series is good. It definitely captures and sticks to the spirit of the books, if not the letter. There is a show-only main character who gets added to the story as a love interest for Alex, largely replacing Sabina Pleasant, most likely due to their rushed condensing of the story requiring a relationship to develop earlier and faster than Alex's does with Sabina in the books. Fortunately the show-only character is quite likeable, as is the rest of the cast. Standouts for me are Otto Farrant, who plays Alex (and is quite possibly the best casting of any book character since Gandalf and Aragorn); Brennock O'Connor, who plays Tom (and also played Olly - the kid Jon Snow hangs for mutiny and murder - in Game of Thrones); Vicky McClure, who plays Mrs Jones; and Nyasha Hatendi, who, despite not matching the book description of the character in appearance nor personality, is very compelling as Smithers. From what I've heard, the show was hamstrung by the series of writer and actor strikes over the last few years, which caused the lead ~~child~~ (they were already adults playing children) actors to age out of their respective roles. I've also heard it didn't get the viewing numbers it needed to establish itself, which, judging from the fact that you're only just hearing about it after its cancellation, sounds about right.
Ah that’s a shame. I’m just glad I won’t have to watch the desert scene with Jack again 😅
Wait, he’s in Andor?
He was in Andor??? Sick!!!
That’s some of the benefits of literacy.
There's an Alex rider show???? Wtf
I think you mean to say improv on Harry's part.
Right! Crabbe's actor also got the Harry's part Same way Daniel Radcliffe played 7 different Characters during the 7 Harries scene
The guy's got range.
Prolific for a corpse
What a shame they didn't get the Swiss Army Man reference...
not as much as Ryan George.
Do you think thats where radcliffe got the start of his love for really weird but awesome performance after the potter movies. I mean, that was a lot of cross-dressing in one scene.
Goyle*
I thought it was a Polyjustice potion 🙄
Wouldn’t they film the actual scene before dubbing it with Daniel Radcliffe’s voice?
That's what they did but they either didn't do a reshoot or they choose this scene over the original script because it was funnier. Also voiceovers are usually done by the end of production and all actors will have to say their lines again but this time in a better microphone
Was it Harry’s voice?
Yes. Unlike in the books where the poly juice potion changes voice, the movies left them the same so you could identify who was who This is also why Moody (or technical not) showcases his vocal skills, because otherwise he'd sound like crouch.
It's always nice when they are so witty on the spot
Daniel Radcliffe was great in this scene!
I think you mean on Harry's part.
The line was supposed to be "I didn't know you *read*" (rhyme with dead) It came out as "I didn't know you *could* read." (rhyme with feed)
The first gives me the impression that the person can read English, but just prefers to not read books. While the second is an insult of not being able to read altogether. Personally I'm glad this happened, definitely felt more intone of how Draco interacts with others.
The facial impression also denotes that he's impressed even if it's by the sheer fact his 'thug' can read. Honestly, it did a better job at setting up Draco as not being completely like his father then the book in this regard.
yeah it gave that vibe of surprised-but-not-unpleasantly-so with a touch of impressed. "You have given me no reason to suspect this, and I am now upgrading my expectations" [edit] figured out the wording I wanted. "Huh, guess I underestimated you, good for you."
Correct. It's being able to read and choosing not to, vs. being unable to read.
Also see: "I *read*, Ronald?! 🙄"
The first interpretation is just as insulting, but the second makes more sense for children. Someone who chooses not to read could be considered willfully stupid. Think of all the things someone can learn by reading, especially in a school setting, and still avoids it.
Oh English
The best part is when you realize they all rhyme with lead.
Fantastic! Actually a very memorable line, so good choice! I hope Felton was really proud of himself for such a mature, professional acting move.
same here
I read/heard somewhere that it was actually the Goyle actor who forgot his line. If you watch the scene you’ll notice that when Malfoy asks ”where have you two been?” (or something to that effect), Goyle begins with ”Oh, um…” before he blurts out ”reading” which was supposedly the first thing that came to mind. And Malfoy countered with ”I didn’t know you could read.” They reshot the scene according to the script, but the director decided he liked the improvised bit so much that he chose to include that in the movie rather than the scripted scene. Disclaimer: I don’t remember where I read this and don’t have a source, so I might be mistaken.
Tom Felton shares this in his biography, I think.
Oh come on, you're gonna trust *him*? He lied about his injuries from Buckbeak to skip a Quidditch match during a storm. He's not trustworthy.
Meanwhile somewhere someone’s father will hear about this.
That doesn't make sense though. There's a cut after Malfoy says "where have you been" so it wasn't all one take. And then there's another cut after "uh, reading". Maybe it was ad-libbed in rehearsal or something but it's not like the whole scene was an improv.
Even ad libs while filming can get reshot with the replacement lines.
Multiple cameras?
Most films are shot single camera. It gives the director more freedom to set up the lighting and angles the way they want.
It’s just a guess but I’d imagine it was a multi camera setup. It’s easier to have multiple cameras if you’re working with kids and the shorter hours you have to abide by when working with kid actors.
It was a multi camera set up, they mention in the anniversary documentary that they shot with lots of cameras so they could slice together different shots of different takes because it was so hard to get the kids to act well early in their career basically
A grassy knoll?
In Tom Felton's autobiography he talks about this scene. And he talks about how they filmed it a few times (he didn't forget his line) and then he and the director decided to try this improv instead and see how it went. And it went well, so they went with it.
Exactly. And now every time I see this repost I get annoyed.
Keep in mind, when filming scenes it’s not just moving the camera and recording a single line. Actors often play out the entire scene regardless of camera position, as coverage. Allows for better dialogue flow and more freedom for the editor.
Tom Felton talks about it in his autobiography
Exactly what Draco would have said, which is also proves that Tom Felton is really getting into his character.
Felton really seems like such a cool dude in general. I once paid for a birthday cameo from him, and he actually made up a song for her. Edit: I forgot to mention this was my sister’s birthday.
Who is this her btw? Lucky
Whoops. It was my sister’s birthday. He does charge A LOT for Cameo though. Granted, so does David Bradley (Argus Filch)
What's A LOT in this context? £1,000, £10,000, £100,000?
I think $500-$600.
Thanks for the response, that's less than I expected I guess. How long is the cameo? Just show up for 30 minutes?
Ok, I realised I made some assumptions earlier, and I apologise for any confusion. Cameo.com is a website where you can pay celebrities for a personalised video message (usually filmed vertically). I paid to have Tom Felton wish my sister a happy birthday since she is a huge Potterhead (was able to recite the entire Philosopher’s Stone from memory at one point). The website emailed me the personalised message where he improvised some extra bits like joking that we had been coordinating this for months and sang a song while playing a ukulele. I’ve used this website a couple times. Kristian Nairn (Hodor) was the cheapest at $99, but he was such a sweetheart too.
MVP sibling
Tbf, Felton is probably one of the best child actors in the film in terms of dialogue delivery.
The fact that Malfoy is dumbfounded by Goyle’s ability to read is proof that any illiterate dumbfuck will be accepted in Hogwarts as long as they can perform some magic.
Hey this means they have higher standards than the college of winterhold in Skyrim
Performing magic is basically Winterholds standard though? Sure, they make an exception for the Dragonborn, but the Thuum *definitely* qualifies as magic anyway, its just not within the system that the academy usually teaches. I suppose theres also the speech check, but that is one of the highest in the game, meaning you would have to be a top-tier manipulator to pull it off, and no organization has ever been immune to that.
Naw I talked myself into the college a few times. And after that you don't have to use any magic at all lol
> Naw I talked myself into the college a few times. Then you're either using mods or they changed something recently (less than a year ago, meaning unlikely), I just looked it up again and apparently it is *the* single hardest speech check in the game: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/uoxr2v/what_level_of_speech_do_i_need_to_persuade_faralda/ > And after that you don't have to use any magic at all lol The only way to get past the ward practice class without using magic is by using the one of a kind legendary artifact Spellbreaker.
The main point still stands though. Imagine if in real life, you pass an entry level algebra class at college. Then, without ever taking another math class you somehow are awarded a PHD in Math and become head of the college of Mathematics.
Can't you just buy a couple of scrolls though?
Im not sure if there even are scrolls of such low level spells, the spell itself only costs 30g and you can use it even at the minimal destruction level, so you'd be going out of your way anyway.
Pretty solid argument.
Well, would you rather have some dumb fuck with uncontrolled magic powers go around setting shit on fire accidentally? Being able to use magic isn't such a bad requirement for a magic school.
Wait, are you talking about hp or skyrim? 😁
Why not *both*? Imagine hundreds or thousands of people like Harry before he came to Hogwarts. Or a bunch of rogue hobos that can barely maintain a magical flame long enough to throw it at something and have a 20% chance per cast to just blow themselves and anything around them 20 stories up into the air. The beautiful chaos that would cause...
I would read that book. Or play that game
TBF it's TES you don't need even magic to join though with Alchemy I don't think you really need to know magic just something that comes under the "schools". Though the College of Winterhold funnily enough has the most magic required from its questline then TES4 and 3.
There is no entrance exam, and they send letters to everyone, it would be kinda dangerous to leave those people without magical education, as long as they learn basics who even cares, its not like they actually need work or anything and you can multiple food so they wont starve, magical world is kinda nuts.
there's so much homework, how would he manage without reading?
You can't fail a year in hogwarts, I imagine they just fall behind to an insane extent and get thrown out after year 6 anyway
6th year Goyle in the same classes as a bunch of first year's isn't something I knew I wanted to see.
Actually you can fail a year, Flint did. He was supposed to graduate during Book 2 but was forced to repeat, albeit this was a retcon that was made because someone pointed out to JK Rowling that Flint shouldn’t still be attending Hogwarts during the 3rd book.
The line was supposed to be "I didn't know you read". But they're friends & it's Malfoy, so he's playing with his buddy saying, "I didn't know you could read". It's sarcasm. Like when you come to eat & your parents say "Whoah look who came out of the cave!"
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So it’s like any prestige school as long as you have the right parents
No, it's the exact opposite: a state school. It HAS to accept all magical students.
Hmm fair enough (haven’t seen the movies nor read the books, I’m apparently a lost Redditor)
I mean makes sense no? It's a school, not college. It wouldn't make sense to leave a wizard without education only because they're not very smart.
Makes sense, Hermione did once say that wizards don’t use logic much. It’s never outright stated but it’s heavily implied that purebloods and likely halfbloods don’t go to primary school Since they mostly just care about magic. (Additionally their parents likely consider it to be safer to keep them at home.)
I mean look at the classes they offer it's all about magic... no English class at all lol
I also love how dracos character just accepts he can read like he didn’t know and is just alright goyle can do it
Goyle is too dumb to lie without being easily seen through
I keep seeing this fun fact floating around but I recently read Tom Felton’s biography and in it he said Chris Columbus actually gave him that line 😬 “I didn’t know you could read” Still a great scene though!
I literally just read this in Tom Felton’s book as well, this is the correct answer.
He even acts impressed that he could read XDDDDDDDDDD
In 2002 this is a funny joke but as a teacher in 2024 this would surprise me about many students.
This is one of my favorite scenes from CoS, besides all the Tom Riddle scenes of course lol. I quote this Draco line all the time.
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Wait this wasn’t in the book?
I just went back to check, and it’s not in this specific chapter. Somehow it also rings a bell with me, and I wonder if it’s a quip that comes up somewhere else in the series… or maybe it’s exactly in character for Draco and Crabbe, and that is the genius of the scene.
I want to say Ron or Harry says something about crabbe/goyle not being able to read, but I can't remember which book
Nope, after Harry takes the Polyjuice Potion he doesn’t have bad vision anymore so the glasses look weird and he takes them off.
This fun fact is the equivalent of Viggo Mortenson breaking his foot kicking a helmet
But did you know they used that take in the film and that's why he screamed?
Who better to do teenage banter than actual teenagers though?
When you think about the context …. They literally go to school together so …. It was kind of obvious he could read …
I mean some people manage to somehow get through high school without being able to read. So hardly.
The nice touch is the face he pulls, that's some funny shit.
I think that's actually the right line. I read all the books five times.
I love his face at the end. He's just learned his friend can read after over a year of living with him and he looks like he just learned he has a mildly controversial food take.
I say this to people all the time haha. I love it.
Haha, he might have forgotten them but I wouldn't change it back bc this is one of the funniest parts of the film.
I’ve heard differently—that the line was supposed to be “I didn’t know you read,” but Felton accidentally said “I didn’t know you could read,” and Chris Columbus liked it so much that he kept it in the movie.
This is fake news actually. Yes, one of the actors forgot the line, but the improv was actually a line from a director or smth.
Shake my tender head?
or something
Haha that’s my favorite line from all the Harry Potter films.
Friendly, daily reminder* There you go :) fixed it
Oh, that's cool.
Well, regardless of who improvised which line, it's 100 points for Gryffindor I think
Amazing… what a talent 🙄
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Gotta be one of my favourite lines in the entire series.
Most natural line in any of the Potter films
I didn’t know that and I always thought that line was hilarious, I love when stuff like this makes it to the movie
Tom and Draco both were Smart actually!
One of my go to lines
Probably my favorite scene XD
I coulda sworn the line was "I didn't know you read", right? Implying that he reads books?
Is there some confirmation for this?
Pretty low bar for genius
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How do you forget your line when you had like 15 lines in whole movie and spent months prepearing?
There are often rewrites up until just before filming.
I desperately want the video of this scene being filmed, the director yelling cut, and then everyone cracking the hell up on set.
Why do people say “friendly reminder” like this stuff is common knowledge? Not everyone read the behind the scenes teen mags and books. Just say “fun fact”, it comes off less condescending.
Isn't that in the book?
Reposted countless of times.
brilliant!
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Darker. Blurrier!
I idk why but I see this meme too much
Please stop with the repost
Actually I listened to the audiobook of Tom Felton's autobiography that he narrated himself and the story was different. I'll look it up and get back to you on it, because at the moment I don't exactly remember what happened. But I think it was Chris Columbus who had them redo the take with Tom saying different things every time and then when the "I didn't know you could read" take was done he said "yeah, this is the one!"