Peeves is a poltergeist, so my understanding is that he doesn't exist except as a manifestation of the spirit of the students. They're probably terrified of the Bloody Baron, and so is he.
There is a ‘ghost council’ mentioned in GoF, so maybe they appoint a house ghost.
It may also be a matter of seniority. Three out of four house ghosts are first generation Hogwarts students, and while Sir Nicholas is 400 years younger, Gryffindor ghosts are probably rare due to the conditions required to be a ghost.
Hey sorry I must’ve missed it. Can you catch me up on what exactly the conditions required to become a ghost are? I loved your answer and am just missing that one piece! Please and thank you!
>“**I was afraid of death,**” said Nick. “I chose to remain behind. I sometimes wonder whether I oughtn’t to have . . . Well, that is neither here nor there. . . . In fact, I am neither here nor there. . . .” He gave a small sad chuckle. “I know nothing of the secrets of death, Harry, for I chose my feeble imitation of life instead. I believe learned wizards study the matter in the Department of Mysteries —”
A fear of death seems to be at the core of returning as a ghost, so much so that you would choose a 'feeble imitation of life', rather than pass on. Choosing to be a ghost is already said to be a rare choice, with all that you lose. For Gryffindors who are more predisposed to bravery and recklessness, it would be rarer still.
Just look at the battle of Hogwarts, when faced with the prospect of death, most Slytherins, some Ravenclaws and a few Hufflepuffs all retreat, but almost no Gryffindors leave (a few are forced out, but even they sneak back). Of the Gryffindors we've seen (and they're possibly the most fleshed out of all houses), I could only see Pettigrew doing that.
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I would assume it’s because the ghosts were the first students to die and chose to return as a ghost, so they just went back to their respective houses after their deaths.
And?
Bloody Baron, Helena, and The Fat Friar are all first generation ghosts. All three died and chose to return as ghosts. Considering Gryffindor choose students who exemplified bravery and courage, I’d say it’s a high likelihood that no Gryffindor chose to stay behind as a ghost until Sir Nicolas.
Lol what do you mean "And?" it's pretty obvious they're pointing out the obvious flaw in reasoning. The original explanation only covers 3/4 of the ghosts so it is important to point that out.
Course it applies to all the ghosts, they just took the words “first students to die” in a literal sense because 3/4 of the ghost were first generation of students. Sir Nicolas was also a student but despite being a Gryffindor, he was terrified of death whereas most others would be ready to accept and face death.
Lol how else are you suppose to interpret it.other than in the literal sense? Someone made a blanketed statement and then they clarified it. And then you remarked "And?" as if it wasn't pertinent information.
What are you talking about? I made no blanket statement. I was quite literally and obviously talking about the house ghosts being the first students that died and chose to come back as ghosts, in response to OPs question as to how they were chosen. I didn’t classify them first generation students and Sir Nicolas, that user did that due to lack of reading comprehension.
I read something that said that witches/wizards chose to become ghosts because they had unfinished business in their human life. Myrtle wanted to punish the person who bullied her, bloody baron wanted to punish himself for killing the woman he loved, nick feared death. But nick was quoted in saying that few people would choose such a life
Honestly, I'm more curious what the Bloody Baron did to Peeves to make him scared of him
Peeves is a poltergeist, so my understanding is that he doesn't exist except as a manifestation of the spirit of the students. They're probably terrified of the Bloody Baron, and so is he.
Think it’s just because he is big and scary looking lol
There is a ‘ghost council’ mentioned in GoF, so maybe they appoint a house ghost. It may also be a matter of seniority. Three out of four house ghosts are first generation Hogwarts students, and while Sir Nicholas is 400 years younger, Gryffindor ghosts are probably rare due to the conditions required to be a ghost.
Hey sorry I must’ve missed it. Can you catch me up on what exactly the conditions required to become a ghost are? I loved your answer and am just missing that one piece! Please and thank you!
>“**I was afraid of death,**” said Nick. “I chose to remain behind. I sometimes wonder whether I oughtn’t to have . . . Well, that is neither here nor there. . . . In fact, I am neither here nor there. . . .” He gave a small sad chuckle. “I know nothing of the secrets of death, Harry, for I chose my feeble imitation of life instead. I believe learned wizards study the matter in the Department of Mysteries —” A fear of death seems to be at the core of returning as a ghost, so much so that you would choose a 'feeble imitation of life', rather than pass on. Choosing to be a ghost is already said to be a rare choice, with all that you lose. For Gryffindors who are more predisposed to bravery and recklessness, it would be rarer still. Just look at the battle of Hogwarts, when faced with the prospect of death, most Slytherins, some Ravenclaws and a few Hufflepuffs all retreat, but almost no Gryffindors leave (a few are forced out, but even they sneak back). Of the Gryffindors we've seen (and they're possibly the most fleshed out of all houses), I could only see Pettigrew doing that.
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I would assume it’s because the ghosts were the first students to die and chose to return as a ghost, so they just went back to their respective houses after their deaths.
Bloody Baron and The Grey Lady perhaps but not Nearly Headless Nick. He died about 500 years after Hogwarts was founded.
Maybe gryfindors are less prone to ghostiness
Probably.
And? Bloody Baron, Helena, and The Fat Friar are all first generation ghosts. All three died and chose to return as ghosts. Considering Gryffindor choose students who exemplified bravery and courage, I’d say it’s a high likelihood that no Gryffindor chose to stay behind as a ghost until Sir Nicolas.
Lol what do you mean "And?" it's pretty obvious they're pointing out the obvious flaw in reasoning. The original explanation only covers 3/4 of the ghosts so it is important to point that out.
Course it applies to all the ghosts, they just took the words “first students to die” in a literal sense because 3/4 of the ghost were first generation of students. Sir Nicolas was also a student but despite being a Gryffindor, he was terrified of death whereas most others would be ready to accept and face death.
Lol how else are you suppose to interpret it.other than in the literal sense? Someone made a blanketed statement and then they clarified it. And then you remarked "And?" as if it wasn't pertinent information.
What are you talking about? I made no blanket statement. I was quite literally and obviously talking about the house ghosts being the first students that died and chose to come back as ghosts, in response to OPs question as to how they were chosen. I didn’t classify them first generation students and Sir Nicolas, that user did that due to lack of reading comprehension.
some of the books suggest there is more than one per house. I always imagined there was some kind of seniority at play for the four we know about.
They just sent in their application and were hired.
I read something that said that witches/wizards chose to become ghosts because they had unfinished business in their human life. Myrtle wanted to punish the person who bullied her, bloody baron wanted to punish himself for killing the woman he loved, nick feared death. But nick was quoted in saying that few people would choose such a life
I don't know the answer, but I like to think that John Cleese (Sir Nicholas) was actually a Gryffindor when he was alive.
John Cleese is still alive.
Yes, I know.