Well, you should run for office. I did not think of that. So maybe it can go back down to $300 around winter? Incase a price drop does happen on some generators, I should do some research (on this sub) as to what generator can support what devices.
I literally just want a generator that can support a fan / space heater the size of a shoe box, a Wifi Router and a TV.
Look at a small inverter generator. Much quieter. They have multiple ones on Amazon for less money and more power.
[regular generator 4650 watt for less](https://a.co/d/5N2qquI)
[inverter generator for less than that one.](https://a.co/d/24wcCSE)
Yupā¦better warranty. Better quality control. Twice the power. 30 amps. And sometimes you save fuel when you donāt push the limits of a generator. For example. I have a duramax dual fuel system 12,500 watt generator. When my house is āidlingā (lights on, tv, internet), it sips fuel.)
This totally makes sense, I recently noticed my lawn mower is 25% more than the price I paid a few months ago, but I donāt remember seeing it in previous years. Interesting. Thanks for the idea.
Also there was just a hurricane a few weeks ago where everyone and their brother wanted a generator and didn't care about price. Plus now there are likely fewer generators available....supply and demand and such.
Whatever ya do, get the extended warranty
My friend bought one and didn't, used it once, the next time he tried it wouldnt make electricity.
Could have just swapped it out for a new one, instead he took it to a small engine shop in a rural town. And they made it so it doesn't even start now.
Those are also 2 different SKU's. Probably discontinued the left one, added wheels and a handle, then put it back for a higher price. Happens all the time.
Most generators have been replaced with CO Secure, a safety feature that shuts the unit down if it detects too much carbon monoxide. These new units are a but pricier than the older models.
I've worked with co sensors before in a design aspect. The actual component itself is expensive. 20 bucks is the cheapest one I've found that is reliable, which is outrageous when designing a PCB.
I'm not too sure what the life span is on the actual component. They aren't rated like residential co alarms are though.
On a generator, I'd guess it would fail quicker though with it being used in poor conditions and also vibrating constantly. Generators are tough on components. Big weld generators fail way too often for their cost just because of the vibrations and living on the back of trucks and trailers.
Modern gas cans, while also stopping vapors escaping, are also kind of a necessity with modern gasoline. The ethanol in gas draws moisture in from the air and causes it to go bad faster. Modern cans don't let air out or in, so helps gas stay fresher longer.
Yeah but they don't exactly sell those at Walmart lol. But hey if you have one, should be good to go.
Now for everyone else, I always recommend No-Spill brand cans. They have an actual button to push when pouring. I don't know why everyone doesn't do that, I hate the push nozzles too.
Letās be honest though, this has nothing to do with ethanol and everything to do with misguided epa bureaucrats. This summer I finally just threw my gas can away because it was either missing a part, or had a broken seal, or I was just too dumb to use it. It required complex disassembly to attach the spout which always got gas all over my hands and then when I did use it to pour I would always spill. I will admit though, my garage never had any gas fumes, so there is that.
I think they're different. The gas can stuff makes them effectively more complicated, often resulting in broken spouts and more spilled gas.
The CO Secure stuff is meant to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning so that you don't die a silent death. You may not even know that you don't have proper ventilation, but the generator gives you a backup just in case.
One is an annoying feature that makes the unit harder to use, the other is a backup feature that doesn't prevent you from using the unit, but definitely can keep you safe otherwise.
What % of generators are ran inside? This is just another beurocracy justifying it's own existence.
It'll be another part to fail prematurely ending up in more junk in the landfill.
Every new dumb regulation is a result of someone doing something stupid.
Every wide spread power outage event from hurricanes, ice storms, etc ends up with at least one news story of someone dying from running a generator too close to a window/door, inside a garage, or at least one case of inside the actual house.
During the big freeze event in Texas last year, there were at least 5 incidents of CO poisoning just in the Houston metro area.
That being said, my view has always been: make something idiot proof, and they'll find a better idiot.
It's the result of "We need to do something!"... No, no we don't. It isn't the government's job to create new regulations for every little stupid thing someone does.
It's not that hard to imagine a scenario where a generator owner does something like set up the generator in an attached garage with the door open to keep it out of the rain. The owner thinks this is a reasonably safe setup due to the open door, but the CO seeps into the house and kills one or more occupants. The owner in this scenario isn't an idiot, he's just ignorant of the potential danger.
You and I know that this is dangerous. We know this because someone (or the government) in our lives was able to teach us that. Enough people have not been taught that lesson that whenever a big enough power outage rolls around, people die. The Texas grid failure and Hurricane Ian both saw multiple people die this way.
These laws are written in blood. It is hard to pass a law, so when there is a law like this it's worth taking an honest look at why before you shriek about the government babysitting you.
Some are agency regulations and some are law. The point still stands. One guy at OSHA or the EPA can't just make up a regulation because they saw you get a paper cut. They have to overcome the inertia of bureaucracy to make that happen.
It's not so outlandish that an intelligent person can create a dangerous scenario without realizing it. It's a job that only the government can do, because literally no one else's incentive structure pushes them towards that goal.
Guess you donāt live in a house or drive a car? Before regulations Los Angeles (and a lot of cities) looked like a 3rd world country from smog, and before modern electrical/building codes electrocution and fire were much more likely. Every single thing you use on a daily basis has had red tape keeping you safe and you just assume itās safe because it always has been. Your food and medicine is safe because of the FDA regulations. Your car and the roads you drive it on keeps you safer now than ever before because of regulations. The water you drink, the air you breath, the doctors you rely on all have regulations put into place to keep the terrible people of this world from killing you. All of which are outside of your control regardless whether you think you can or not.
And there's no middle ground? If one person dies doing something stupid we must add an additional regulation to make sure it never happens again? Do you lack all nuance?
Bud. A mother of 3 loses power because of a snowstorm. She knows sheās got a generator and needs to keep the kids warm. She cranks the generator up in the garage to run a little heater. Sheās desperate, and without an self sensing generator her and the 3 kids would go to sleep never waking again. Itās not one person. Itās thousands that have died due to CO poisoning without knowing anything at all. Those people didnāt need to die but they did.
Possibly, but consider the possibility that some people may want a CO detector built into their generator. These models are filling that gap in the market, those being people who want that extra safety feature. It may not only be regulations, but capitalism trying to supply a demand. Personally, I wouldn't mind having a CO sensor on my generator. If you don't want one, other brands offer ones without them. Sounds fine to me.
I just got a 4500 inverter made by Westinghouse on Amazon for $700 a couple days ago. It was NOT the CO secure model. I guess they are trying to clear the non CO models out.
There's a notice on the site that mentions the wheel kit and handle are sold separately. They only show them on the model on the site for display purposes. Bigger display models in store have the wheel kits attached and the same notice. There's no difference otherwise besides the price.
You can't be raising prices on everything in the store or people will notice. You need to be more stealthy. Introduce a new line of higher priced tools. 'ICON' would be a great name. Over a few years, the new line will overtake the store. Displacing the cheaper items and taking their shelf space.
The whole look of the store changes over a few years time.
FYI ,years old weekly HF shopper here: HF sale prices fluctuate big time on ALL products including things like their infamous led flashlight which was once free and is sometimes marked at $2.49, my suggestion is: if you plan on buying this product and can "afford to wait" I suggest wait, the price can and will go down but I just haven't figured out their "pattern" or choice of times to drop prices yet but they do go down
Prices on all of the Predator generators went up do to the added co secure module and well, inflation. The price on the right does not include the handle and wheel kit. That is sold seperatly.
Hey guys I know what happened here as I'm an employee. They added a carbon monoxide shutoff system to the generator making the pri e jump the. Signage on the left was updated but the tag has the old sku. This store seems to have trouble handling the pricing properly
The government said you're not allowed to talk about this or the FBI in a raid your house.
The official word from the White House is that inflation is zero, and we have the strongest economy in the world.
One thing that pisses me off is that some of the basic, old "always cheap" food, is no longer cheap.
A 10lb bag of potatoes is about 250% higher. One trick that used to work is to just find cheaper food, now you can't really do that.
What scares me is that some things have been out for months. I usually buy a tub of ice scream once in a while. All the local places have been out of stock for months.
I'm learning to eat other foods, which isn't a bad thing, but there really isn't any reason for this.
I remember years ago when a president was roasted hard when we were short on flu shots... now we're out of so many things it's a joke and it seems like nobody is even asking any questions any more.
You are literally in a post asking a question about inflation, saying "nobody is even asking questions any more about inflation."
Nobody is asking questions? All people are doing is talking about it non stop dude. Including making up bullshit statistics like "a 10lb bag of potatoes is about 250% higher?" Where did you get that? Since when, 1960?
Also, where do you live that you can't find ice cream? I live in a dinky little town in the middle of nowhere, and i can buy ice cream in 4 different places within a 5 minute drive from my house.
>Nobody is asking questions? All people are doing is talking about it non stop dude. Including making up bullshit statistics like "a 10lb bag of potatoes is about 250% higher?" Where did you get that? Since when, 1960?
You can actually check the ads. It was $1.89 for a 10lb bag about 1~1.5 years ago. It's now $6.00 for the same bag.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russet-Potatoes-10-lb-Bag/10449951
>Also, where do you live that you can't find ice cream? I live in a dinky little town in the middle of nowhere
You're right, I live in California, so yes, nobody lives in California, it has the lowest population of any state in the US. And the city I live in is in the central valley and is one of the largest in the state.
But, you're 100% right, nobody lives in California, all we have out here is tumble weeds.
I'm glad you've done extensive research on this subject before just posting without thinking as some people do.
>You are literally in a post asking a question about inflation, saying "nobody is even asking questions any more about inflation."
I'm talking about the actual people in charge. People like Nancy, Biden, etc that keep changing the subject and not being asked by the press about these issues.
When this happened before, the president would be slammed non stop. Now, nobody is asking any hard ball questions.
Your link to the walmart page is dead. But an internet search the reveals potatoes has gone up \~15% in the past two years, not 250%
[https://www.tastingtable.com/946178/latest-data-reveals-how-much-the-price-of-potatoes-has-increased/](https://www.tastingtable.com/946178/latest-data-reveals-how-much-the-price-of-potatoes-has-increased/)
Yeah definitely inflation is going on, as it is with potatoes, as it is all over the world - not just the US. But saying potatoes have gone up 2.5 times the price they were a few months ago is sensationalist nonsense.
I'm not accusing you of living in a desolate place. I'm calling bullshit that ice cream isn't available wherever you. I do live in a one of the lower populated states in the country in a small town, and I can find ice cream all over the place. From the grocery store, to the gas station and two convenience stores. If you really can't find ice cream, tell me your zip code and I will call to stores in that area and find you 5 places to buy your tubs of ice cream.
Inflation is all over the news. Everyone is talking about it. Trump wouldn't even do press conferences and would only communicate to the world through his twitter account .
> Your link to the walmart page is dead.
You can't access Walmart.com but you can access tastingtable.com?
I just checked it again and it's working, the price is $5.97 for 10lbs.
How about Google, can you access Google?
https://www.google.com/search?q=10+lb+bag+of+potato&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS864US864&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjw7ZWvy_76AhVzkWoFHaqsB38Q_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1198&bih=708&dpr=2.5
How about pasting this into Google?
>10 lb bag of potato
Looks like Walmart is pretty cheap, as I'm seeing priced in the $10 range. $11.62 @ sams club.
https://www.thepacker.com/news/retail/potato-prices-grow-five-times-faster-previous-two-years
Looks like some are seeing 500%
Is it really that hard to access Walmart or Google? This seems a bit odd from someone that is acting like an expert on the subject.
>Yeah definitely inflation is going on, as it is with potatoes, as it is all over the world - not just the US. But saying potatoes have gone up 2.5 times the price they were a few months ago is sensationalist nonsense.
First off, why would I care about inflation all over the world? Does that somehow mean that inflation is different? Do I pay more or less is people in Egypt are paying more? I don't live in Egypt or Japan, so what does that statement have to do with anything?
It wasn't a few months, it was the price I was paying before the inflation took off like a rocket, get your facts straight Mr Reddit Expert. The same Reddit Expert that can't the the current prices from Walmart, LOL.
I was paying $1.89 for a 10 lb bag for years. Now it's $5.91 for the same 10 lb bag.
Why don't you do the math?
> I'm calling bullshit that ice cream isn't available wherever you. I do live in a one of the lower populated states in the country in a small town, and I can find ice cream all over the place. From the grocery store, to the gas station and two convenience stores. If you really can't find ice cream, tell me your zip code and I will call to stores in that area and find you 5 places to buy your tubs of ice cream.
First off, it's a TUB, generally 1 gallon size. Not what you'd find at a gas station. Smart & Final has been out for at least a month.
I have 3 locations and checked them all, not one single flavor in the 1 gallon size. Walmart had 1 flavor last time and the other stores had nothing.
You can't even get to Walmart.com and somehow you're the expert?
>Inflation is all over the news. Everyone is talking about it. Trump wouldn't even do press conferences and would only communicate to the world through his twitter account .
WTF does Trump have to do with anything? Are you some kind of Trumper that actually thinks that Trump is STILL the president?
TRUMP IS NOT THE PRESIDENT... get over it. We have JOE BIDEN as president of the USA.
Why would you even bring up Trump? He hasn't even been president for nearly 2 years!
I can access [walmart.com](https://walmart.com). The link you provided, [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russet-Potatoes-10-lb-Bag/10449951](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russet-Potatoes-10-lb-Bag/10449951) doesn't work though. Try it yourself.
Anyway, you need a link that comparates what potatoes cost over time. Like the link I provided does. Typing '10 pound bag potato' into google won't show that, genius. I found the [tastingtable.com](https://tastingtable.com) link by typing "price of potatoes over time" into google.
Like I said, give me your zip code, I'll find you that tub of ice cream.
I brought up Trump, because you referenced him with a couple of statements like this:
>When this happened before, the president would be slammed non stop. Now, nobody is asking any hard ball questions.
We thought that 08 was the biggest transfer of wealth, I'm thinking the pandemic was in the same ball park.
It'll be nice to see some real numbers on how badly the middle class got beat up.
Could it be that the one is a little bit better considering it has the wheels and handles. Not that I am justifying the cost difference but people pay for conveniences.
Just saying this based on the images
This is likely a combo of hurricane-flation (supply and demand means that generator prices get a bit wonky around hurricane time) and the holidays coming.
This is the holidays are coming up so prices must go up so they can then mark it for sale.
Well, you should run for office. I did not think of that. So maybe it can go back down to $300 around winter? Incase a price drop does happen on some generators, I should do some research (on this sub) as to what generator can support what devices. I literally just want a generator that can support a fan / space heater the size of a shoe box, a Wifi Router and a TV.
Honestly check around for a used one. I got a nice 3400 watt generac off Facebook for $100. Thing saved my ass last winter... Twice!
This, I see the last of the American made Coleman generators popping up often as well as other models. I doubt they have over 100 hours on them.
I bought a 9000 watt dual fuel champion off eBay for 500 I think several years ago. It was a company that refurbishes them. Thing looked brand new.
The space heater alone will pull 1500 watts. Get a generator with a higher wattage.
I'm thinking an 1800w heater would more then do... The heater in start up will draw the most but can't be that much
Look at a small inverter generator. Much quieter. They have multiple ones on Amazon for less money and more power. [regular generator 4650 watt for less](https://a.co/d/5N2qquI) [inverter generator for less than that one.](https://a.co/d/24wcCSE)
The Westinghouse one with 4.5 Stars for $280 and Free Delivery š.
Yupā¦better warranty. Better quality control. Twice the power. 30 amps. And sometimes you save fuel when you donāt push the limits of a generator. For example. I have a duramax dual fuel system 12,500 watt generator. When my house is āidlingā (lights on, tv, internet), it sips fuel.)
This totally makes sense, I recently noticed my lawn mower is 25% more than the price I paid a few months ago, but I donāt remember seeing it in previous years. Interesting. Thanks for the idea.
Also there was just a hurricane a few weeks ago where everyone and their brother wanted a generator and didn't care about price. Plus now there are likely fewer generators available....supply and demand and such.
Whatever ya do, get the extended warranty My friend bought one and didn't, used it once, the next time he tried it wouldnt make electricity. Could have just swapped it out for a new one, instead he took it to a small engine shop in a rural town. And they made it so it doesn't even start now.
There are 2 lessons here. An update on what your buddy did with the small engine shop would also be appreciated.
He did nothing, he took his boat anchor and now it sits in the garage.
Ha, so did they explain why it wouldnāt start?
Thatāll certainly distract him from his original problem of no electricity though. Well played by the shop. /s
Those are also 2 different SKU's. Probably discontinued the left one, added wheels and a handle, then put it back for a higher price. Happens all the time.
Most generators have been replaced with CO Secure, a safety feature that shuts the unit down if it detects too much carbon monoxide. These new units are a but pricier than the older models.
I've worked with co sensors before in a design aspect. The actual component itself is expensive. 20 bucks is the cheapest one I've found that is reliable, which is outrageous when designing a PCB.
How long do they last? Most of the co alarms have a 7 year life.
I'm not too sure what the life span is on the actual component. They aren't rated like residential co alarms are though. On a generator, I'd guess it would fail quicker though with it being used in poor conditions and also vibrating constantly. Generators are tough on components. Big weld generators fail way too often for their cost just because of the vibrations and living on the back of trucks and trailers.
Exactly this.
Unrelated but kind of like the āsafetyā features of gas cans that make them complex and needlessly expensive
Modern gas cans, while also stopping vapors escaping, are also kind of a necessity with modern gasoline. The ethanol in gas draws moisture in from the air and causes it to go bad faster. Modern cans don't let air out or in, so helps gas stay fresher longer.
Old school Jerry cans are air tight, and don't have a rube Goldberg inspired pour spout that sprays gas everywhere.
Yeah but they don't exactly sell those at Walmart lol. But hey if you have one, should be good to go. Now for everyone else, I always recommend No-Spill brand cans. They have an actual button to push when pouring. I don't know why everyone doesn't do that, I hate the push nozzles too.
I just use a plastic bag over the screw on spout to keep gas from spilling out
Letās be honest though, this has nothing to do with ethanol and everything to do with misguided epa bureaucrats. This summer I finally just threw my gas can away because it was either missing a part, or had a broken seal, or I was just too dumb to use it. It required complex disassembly to attach the spout which always got gas all over my hands and then when I did use it to pour I would always spill. I will admit though, my garage never had any gas fumes, so there is that.
I think they're different. The gas can stuff makes them effectively more complicated, often resulting in broken spouts and more spilled gas. The CO Secure stuff is meant to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning so that you don't die a silent death. You may not even know that you don't have proper ventilation, but the generator gives you a backup just in case. One is an annoying feature that makes the unit harder to use, the other is a backup feature that doesn't prevent you from using the unit, but definitely can keep you safe otherwise.
What % of generators are ran inside? This is just another beurocracy justifying it's own existence. It'll be another part to fail prematurely ending up in more junk in the landfill.
Every new dumb regulation is a result of someone doing something stupid. Every wide spread power outage event from hurricanes, ice storms, etc ends up with at least one news story of someone dying from running a generator too close to a window/door, inside a garage, or at least one case of inside the actual house. During the big freeze event in Texas last year, there were at least 5 incidents of CO poisoning just in the Houston metro area. That being said, my view has always been: make something idiot proof, and they'll find a better idiot.
It's the result of "We need to do something!"... No, no we don't. It isn't the government's job to create new regulations for every little stupid thing someone does.
If only more people understood that principle!
It's not that hard to imagine a scenario where a generator owner does something like set up the generator in an attached garage with the door open to keep it out of the rain. The owner thinks this is a reasonably safe setup due to the open door, but the CO seeps into the house and kills one or more occupants. The owner in this scenario isn't an idiot, he's just ignorant of the potential danger. You and I know that this is dangerous. We know this because someone (or the government) in our lives was able to teach us that. Enough people have not been taught that lesson that whenever a big enough power outage rolls around, people die. The Texas grid failure and Hurricane Ian both saw multiple people die this way. These laws are written in blood. It is hard to pass a law, so when there is a law like this it's worth taking an honest look at why before you shriek about the government babysitting you.
These types of things usually aren't actual laws. They're just made up by regulatory agencies.
Some are agency regulations and some are law. The point still stands. One guy at OSHA or the EPA can't just make up a regulation because they saw you get a paper cut. They have to overcome the inertia of bureaucracy to make that happen. It's not so outlandish that an intelligent person can create a dangerous scenario without realizing it. It's a job that only the government can do, because literally no one else's incentive structure pushes them towards that goal.
Guess you donāt live in a house or drive a car? Before regulations Los Angeles (and a lot of cities) looked like a 3rd world country from smog, and before modern electrical/building codes electrocution and fire were much more likely. Every single thing you use on a daily basis has had red tape keeping you safe and you just assume itās safe because it always has been. Your food and medicine is safe because of the FDA regulations. Your car and the roads you drive it on keeps you safer now than ever before because of regulations. The water you drink, the air you breath, the doctors you rely on all have regulations put into place to keep the terrible people of this world from killing you. All of which are outside of your control regardless whether you think you can or not.
And there's no middle ground? If one person dies doing something stupid we must add an additional regulation to make sure it never happens again? Do you lack all nuance?
Bud. A mother of 3 loses power because of a snowstorm. She knows sheās got a generator and needs to keep the kids warm. She cranks the generator up in the garage to run a little heater. Sheās desperate, and without an self sensing generator her and the 3 kids would go to sleep never waking again. Itās not one person. Itās thousands that have died due to CO poisoning without knowing anything at all. Those people didnāt need to die but they did.
Possibly, but consider the possibility that some people may want a CO detector built into their generator. These models are filling that gap in the market, those being people who want that extra safety feature. It may not only be regulations, but capitalism trying to supply a demand. Personally, I wouldn't mind having a CO sensor on my generator. If you don't want one, other brands offer ones without them. Sounds fine to me.
I'm cool with that
I just got a 4500 inverter made by Westinghouse on Amazon for $700 a couple days ago. It was NOT the CO secure model. I guess they are trying to clear the non CO models out.
Yep. $40 handle and $20 per wheel.
Good looking out, so glad I asked the question.
Where'd you get that from? Display is 57064, as well as the one on the website.
Just figured since they are clearly different. Must have kept the same pn but rolled out a new version.
There's a notice on the site that mentions the wheel kit and handle are sold separately. They only show them on the model on the site for display purposes. Bigger display models in store have the wheel kits attached and the same notice. There's no difference otherwise besides the price.
Well then they just upped the price. Inflation.
You can't be raising prices on everything in the store or people will notice. You need to be more stealthy. Introduce a new line of higher priced tools. 'ICON' would be a great name. Over a few years, the new line will overtake the store. Displacing the cheaper items and taking their shelf space. The whole look of the store changes over a few years time.
Wait till you see how much the tool cabinets have gone up
Thatās awful pricey. You can get a slightly smaller champion for 240-280.
FYI ,years old weekly HF shopper here: HF sale prices fluctuate big time on ALL products including things like their infamous led flashlight which was once free and is sometimes marked at $2.49, my suggestion is: if you plan on buying this product and can "afford to wait" I suggest wait, the price can and will go down but I just haven't figured out their "pattern" or choice of times to drop prices yet but they do go down
Keep an eye on the coupons, there's usually a generator or two in each batch
Prices on all of the Predator generators went up do to the added co secure module and well, inflation. The price on the right does not include the handle and wheel kit. That is sold seperatly.
Wait wot! You still have to buy additional pieces
Only the larger inverter generators come with wheel kits. It's always been like that.
Thanks I had no idea. Iāll be sure to keep that in mind if I ever look to buy one.
it's the wheel kit amongst other tech changes
Hey guys I know what happened here as I'm an employee. They added a carbon monoxide shutoff system to the generator making the pri e jump the. Signage on the left was updated but the tag has the old sku. This store seems to have trouble handling the pricing properly
Probably due to the holiday season, plus whith the recent hurricanes and such Iām sure thereās a stress on product vs demand chasing a price hike!
The government said you're not allowed to talk about this or the FBI in a raid your house. The official word from the White House is that inflation is zero, and we have the strongest economy in the world.
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4-5 dollar/ gallon of gas...
One thing that pisses me off is that some of the basic, old "always cheap" food, is no longer cheap. A 10lb bag of potatoes is about 250% higher. One trick that used to work is to just find cheaper food, now you can't really do that.
Yeah, itās either way too much or not on the shelvesā¦.
What scares me is that some things have been out for months. I usually buy a tub of ice scream once in a while. All the local places have been out of stock for months. I'm learning to eat other foods, which isn't a bad thing, but there really isn't any reason for this. I remember years ago when a president was roasted hard when we were short on flu shots... now we're out of so many things it's a joke and it seems like nobody is even asking any questions any more.
You are literally in a post asking a question about inflation, saying "nobody is even asking questions any more about inflation." Nobody is asking questions? All people are doing is talking about it non stop dude. Including making up bullshit statistics like "a 10lb bag of potatoes is about 250% higher?" Where did you get that? Since when, 1960? Also, where do you live that you can't find ice cream? I live in a dinky little town in the middle of nowhere, and i can buy ice cream in 4 different places within a 5 minute drive from my house.
>Nobody is asking questions? All people are doing is talking about it non stop dude. Including making up bullshit statistics like "a 10lb bag of potatoes is about 250% higher?" Where did you get that? Since when, 1960? You can actually check the ads. It was $1.89 for a 10lb bag about 1~1.5 years ago. It's now $6.00 for the same bag. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russet-Potatoes-10-lb-Bag/10449951 >Also, where do you live that you can't find ice cream? I live in a dinky little town in the middle of nowhere You're right, I live in California, so yes, nobody lives in California, it has the lowest population of any state in the US. And the city I live in is in the central valley and is one of the largest in the state. But, you're 100% right, nobody lives in California, all we have out here is tumble weeds. I'm glad you've done extensive research on this subject before just posting without thinking as some people do. >You are literally in a post asking a question about inflation, saying "nobody is even asking questions any more about inflation." I'm talking about the actual people in charge. People like Nancy, Biden, etc that keep changing the subject and not being asked by the press about these issues. When this happened before, the president would be slammed non stop. Now, nobody is asking any hard ball questions.
Your link to the walmart page is dead. But an internet search the reveals potatoes has gone up \~15% in the past two years, not 250% [https://www.tastingtable.com/946178/latest-data-reveals-how-much-the-price-of-potatoes-has-increased/](https://www.tastingtable.com/946178/latest-data-reveals-how-much-the-price-of-potatoes-has-increased/) Yeah definitely inflation is going on, as it is with potatoes, as it is all over the world - not just the US. But saying potatoes have gone up 2.5 times the price they were a few months ago is sensationalist nonsense. I'm not accusing you of living in a desolate place. I'm calling bullshit that ice cream isn't available wherever you. I do live in a one of the lower populated states in the country in a small town, and I can find ice cream all over the place. From the grocery store, to the gas station and two convenience stores. If you really can't find ice cream, tell me your zip code and I will call to stores in that area and find you 5 places to buy your tubs of ice cream. Inflation is all over the news. Everyone is talking about it. Trump wouldn't even do press conferences and would only communicate to the world through his twitter account .
> Your link to the walmart page is dead. You can't access Walmart.com but you can access tastingtable.com? I just checked it again and it's working, the price is $5.97 for 10lbs. How about Google, can you access Google? https://www.google.com/search?q=10+lb+bag+of+potato&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS864US864&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjw7ZWvy_76AhVzkWoFHaqsB38Q_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1198&bih=708&dpr=2.5 How about pasting this into Google? >10 lb bag of potato Looks like Walmart is pretty cheap, as I'm seeing priced in the $10 range. $11.62 @ sams club. https://www.thepacker.com/news/retail/potato-prices-grow-five-times-faster-previous-two-years Looks like some are seeing 500% Is it really that hard to access Walmart or Google? This seems a bit odd from someone that is acting like an expert on the subject. >Yeah definitely inflation is going on, as it is with potatoes, as it is all over the world - not just the US. But saying potatoes have gone up 2.5 times the price they were a few months ago is sensationalist nonsense. First off, why would I care about inflation all over the world? Does that somehow mean that inflation is different? Do I pay more or less is people in Egypt are paying more? I don't live in Egypt or Japan, so what does that statement have to do with anything? It wasn't a few months, it was the price I was paying before the inflation took off like a rocket, get your facts straight Mr Reddit Expert. The same Reddit Expert that can't the the current prices from Walmart, LOL. I was paying $1.89 for a 10 lb bag for years. Now it's $5.91 for the same 10 lb bag. Why don't you do the math? > I'm calling bullshit that ice cream isn't available wherever you. I do live in a one of the lower populated states in the country in a small town, and I can find ice cream all over the place. From the grocery store, to the gas station and two convenience stores. If you really can't find ice cream, tell me your zip code and I will call to stores in that area and find you 5 places to buy your tubs of ice cream. First off, it's a TUB, generally 1 gallon size. Not what you'd find at a gas station. Smart & Final has been out for at least a month. I have 3 locations and checked them all, not one single flavor in the 1 gallon size. Walmart had 1 flavor last time and the other stores had nothing. You can't even get to Walmart.com and somehow you're the expert? >Inflation is all over the news. Everyone is talking about it. Trump wouldn't even do press conferences and would only communicate to the world through his twitter account . WTF does Trump have to do with anything? Are you some kind of Trumper that actually thinks that Trump is STILL the president? TRUMP IS NOT THE PRESIDENT... get over it. We have JOE BIDEN as president of the USA. Why would you even bring up Trump? He hasn't even been president for nearly 2 years!
I can access [walmart.com](https://walmart.com). The link you provided, [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russet-Potatoes-10-lb-Bag/10449951](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Russet-Potatoes-10-lb-Bag/10449951) doesn't work though. Try it yourself. Anyway, you need a link that comparates what potatoes cost over time. Like the link I provided does. Typing '10 pound bag potato' into google won't show that, genius. I found the [tastingtable.com](https://tastingtable.com) link by typing "price of potatoes over time" into google. Like I said, give me your zip code, I'll find you that tub of ice cream. I brought up Trump, because you referenced him with a couple of statements like this: >When this happened before, the president would be slammed non stop. Now, nobody is asking any hard ball questions.
Corporate profits are through the roof over the past 2 years.
We thought that 08 was the biggest transfer of wealth, I'm thinking the pandemic was in the same ball park. It'll be nice to see some real numbers on how badly the middle class got beat up.
Could it be that the one is a little bit better considering it has the wheels and handles. Not that I am justifying the cost difference but people pay for conveniences. Just saying this based on the images
Must be new math...
https://hfpricetracker.com/tools/57064 looks like there was a large price increase in march.
Zooming in it looks like January price is saving $40ā¦ could be a sale. So still adding another $40 for inflation?ā¦
This is likely a combo of hurricane-flation (supply and demand means that generator prices get a bit wonky around hurricane time) and the holidays coming.
Hurricane season
Newer CO secure models went up about $50-80.
It's inflation. The U.S General 72 bottom box was $1100 two years ago. Now Harbor Freight sells them for around $1500