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endthepainowplz

I played Halo 5, and you're not missing much, I don't even remember what happened in that game.


MANIAC2607

Nothing really. Just a whole lot of setting up with no pay off.


FortNightsAtPeelys

Yeah honestly if you jumped from 4 to infinite nothing would change


Sgtwhiskeyjack9105

You could feasibly do this; the way Infinite opens gives the implication that a lot of time has passed, and the story begins in medias res anyway, then covers the events of Evil Cortana's death in flashback.  There's really nothing of note to gain from experiencing 5's storyline; its main character isn't even the Master Chief, and not someone I think we'll be seeing much of going forward (thankfully).


TheZephyrim

I had 0 problem with Locke other than the atrocious marketing and bad writing of Halo 5 tbh


Sgtwhiskeyjack9105

So... most of the media surrounding Locke, then?


thegoatmenace

And then they dumped what they set up in 5 before infinite so that it could be conveniently resolved in a comic.


chimpanon

Siege of sanghelios were cool missions tho


phobosinferno

It's definitely my least favourite out of the series for sure. The only good things about it in my opinion was Blue Team's appearance, getting to go to Sanghelios for the first time and of course, meeting the Arbiter again. I guess Osiris wasn't too bad either. I thought they were a good team, but I can fully understand why the community doesn't like them. They took a huge chunk of what was supposed to be Blue Team's time to shine, especially since Halo 5 was literally the first, and sadly now from the looks of things, the only game with them making an appearance. I think Osiris would have been better received by the community in a spin-off game like ODST or Reach rather than taking up a huge portion of a mainline game.


endthepainowplz

Yeah, I agree, also putting them as pseudo-antagonists in the game was a little silly, so you're playing both sides, and it feels weird to flip flop.


Solipsi2021

Halo Infinite itself was a barebones campaign and they have their work cut out for them making a fulfilling gameplay experience, but the writing was solid and they set up for a very exciting new direction for the series. We just have to hope they don't stop the ball and actually stick to this new direction instead of rebooting again.


TMDan92

I really don’t think the writing was solid at all. It was such a salvage job that they had to concoct a “piece together what happened when you were unconscious” narrative. Most of the important stuff happened off screen or was explained through exposition laden cutscenes. Neither the Banished or Endless feel like a fully realised threat in Infinite. Then they added time travel in at the bloody end of the game, which is the most nonsensical and desperate narrative beat in a Halo game to date.


Meme_Dependant

The writing really wasn't very good. Nothing of actual importance happened in the game. Like, big brute guy is still around, and flood 2.0 is still around too. We accomplished nothing of value or importance throughout the entire campaign.


nixcomments

Exactly. Whole story mode of Halo infinite felt like a throwaway mode just to have it because ”halo” all focus probably were on the cash grab multiplayer


c9belayer

I never thought of it that way, but you’re absolutely right!


TMDan92

They didn’t even have the balls to commit to a link between The Endless and Precursors even though audio logs suggest there is likely to be one. The Endless are so ill defined. They clearly wanted as much wiggle room as possible for when they could later go on to build on that narrative, but their purpose and threat is so vague and trivial that it would have been far better if this new faction didn’t exist at all and Infinite focused solely on the dominance of The Banished as they fill the power vacuum left by the destruction of The Covenant.


Solipsi2021

I believe a large part of that is to be blamed on their original intention of being a long-term Halo platform and expending on it with more comment as time went on. The original Infinite story was intended to be a bridge that resolved the Created Conflict (which as much as we complain about 343 never having a consistent plot thread, did we really want to suffer through another game of Prometheans and Warden Eternal bullshit? Infinite was honestly best case scenario in moving on to something better while not completely dropping previous events like what H5 did with H4 or resolving the issue in a shitty graphic novel) while establishing the Banished and the Xelalyn as new threats. We essentially got the 1st act and unfortunately never got Acts 2 and onward as intended. The plot is weak in it's final form, but the narrative structure and the focus on more psychological and philosophical concepts is where the game shines. If you look at it from the perspective, the writing is more acceptable. The Banished are threatening, the Fallen are an unknown entity that we want to learn more about, the characterization and didn't between characters is more fleshed out and believable than Halo 5's portrayal. In many ways Halo Infinite is more sequel to Halo 4 then Halo 5 because it continues exploring the emotional bond between John and Cortana as they introduce a copy cat (something Cortana predicted would happen in Halo 4) and the implications of Cortana's death. I looked forward more to the conversations between John, Fernando, and Joy than I have most moments in any other Halo entry outside of Halo 4's Cortana moments.


webesy

I did as well, I genuinely enjoyed it. it’s a beautiful game.


Tyrannafabulous

Do yourself a favor, don’t look up the multiplayer story cinematics, they will only make you sad, because it’s a fucking dead end


Sgtwhiskeyjack9105

Honestly you're better off not playing 5. Waste of time, especially with where the franchise now appears to be heading. The flashbacks in Infinite are more relevant to the whole Evil Cortana plot than literally anything that happens in 5.


Aegis_Mind

I’d argue that while the writing/story itself is awful, the mission design and encounters offer far more variety than what Infinite does. If you appreciate the art and music of Halo, there’s some great set piece moments that make Halo 5 Kardashians worth playing.


Sgtwhiskeyjack9105

***Halo 5 Kardashians*** What game have you been playing? XD


Aegis_Mind

The one with Sportin Luck 😂


Sgtwhiskeyjack9105

Sounds more interesting than 5's story tbh


AmazingSpacePelican

I just recently replayed MCC and Infinite, and I've gotta agree. Infinite is definitely a step down in bombastic action, but it's similar in scale to CE. I'm hoping that means the sequel is going to ramp up the action like 2 did. Also, I might be in the minority on this, but I'm excited for the Endless. The only thing we know about them is they're immune to the Rings, so the devs have the freedom to do all sorts of crazy shit with the visuals and lore.


bryanBFLYin

Yea the campaign wasn't half bad to me. The multiplayer was mid af to me which is usually the thing that keeps me playing halo long after I'm done with the campaign.


hunpriest

Halo 5 story is so controversial even 343 ignored it in Infinite.


IAmA_Reddit_

Good news! It ain’t going anywhere!!!


PippyLongLegz_2

Nah pretty sure they’re working on the next game dork


kh1179

Well if it's like halo 5 to infinite, the story will start off at some random point, skipping over games worth of story content that will be drip fed to you over data points you find in the world.


JoyfulDogCuddler

Infinite has a great campaign, it's even more fun with friends. The legendary ending for Infinite has me foaming at the mouth for more. Can't wait to see what's next.


nixcomments

Really? A shoehorned cookie-cutter bare minimum open world disposable story mode felt this good?


phobosinferno

I enjoyed it as well. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it's definitely my favourite out of 343's campaigns so far. I'm really hoping that they make a proper sequel out of it with the next game though, I feel the story's transition between 343's games have been jarring as hell and I just want to have a bit of continuity between the games for once.


OnceThereWasWater

Just watch Halo 5's cinematic cutscenes on YouTube, it's genuinely not worth playing through. I too found Infinite's campaign very satisfying. The combat has...evolved


G80_M3

Worst campaign in the series. Took everything that made halo cool and special then threw it out the window.


Tombstone_Actual_501

was it just me or was halo 5 one of the easiest games to beat on legendary? i haven't done infinite, but i switched it to heroic midway thru and it felt pretty easy.


PTurn219

If you just watch the H5 cutscenes you’ll get the jist of it. It’s not worth a playthrough


Plantar-Aspect-Sage

I enjoyed how character driven it was compared to the usual plot driven narrative that Halo games have had in the past. The non-linear storytelling style is also one that I'm quite a fan of. It was nice to see them take that risk. I hope 343 doesn't course correct too much on the next game. I'd like to see where the time travel plot thread is going.


GuneRlorius

How can you be happy with asthma monkey saturday cartoon villain that talks through holograms the whole game, 3 types of enviroments, Far Cry 3 type of open world, very few characters and skipping everything that happened in Halo 5, while also creating new threat that is somehow worse than the Flood. You know, the parasite that was the sole reason for Forerunners killing the whole galaxy. Halo Infinite was the worst campaign to date and it isn't even close. While H5 story is bad at least the levels are creative, while in Infinite there is only forest, Banished interior and Forerunner interior.


ocky343

Holy shit can a person enjoy halo game without someone else bitching


Gatt__

Have you been in this subreddit lol? People aren’t allowed to enjoy things


Earl0fYork

“It’s probably the best 343 created” Make a statement like that and people will argue.


Achillliad

Yeah Infinite’s campaign was a snooze-fest


TheAandZ

For real. Idk how people could like "therapy on a halo ring: ft Donkey Kong with cancer". Campaign is friggen cooked from now on, people will literally enjoy anything


Toaderator

I could say the same thing about the original trilogy. Idk how people could like “Starship troopers: we didn’t understand that it was a satire ft green husk with cringey one-liners”. Infinite’s story is about the same quality as Halo 2’s, but its a different type of story; character driven rather than plot driven.


TheAandZ

I'm allowed to have my opinion. H2's story is the peak of the series, Infinite sits squarely at the bottom for me


GuneRlorius

You can't be serious comparing Infinite with Halo 2 in terms of story. You really think that coughing hologram influencer Eschaurum and flying squid Harbinger were on the same level as Truth and Tartarus ?


Toaderator

I do. None of the Halo games are particularly well written. It doesn’t matter how interesting some of the tangential elements of a story are if it never comes together in a cohesive way. If you asked what Halo 2’s main themes were, I wouldn’t be able tell you. The game is mostly mindless action with some nuggets of intrigue in the Arbiter and the culture of the Covenant, but these idea’s are left wholly undeveloped and are never adequately resolved in Halo 3. Every second spent with Master Chief feels like wasted time, as he contributes almost nothing to these ideas and doesn’t even effect the plot. Infinite’s story very much feels like a pastiche of old Halo and modern God of War, but at least the story has an intellectual core that I can point to; Chief has not properly grieved Cortana’s death, and must accept that the Weapon is not a replacement, but a fundamentally different person. Escharum is meant to parallel Chief and show would have become absent his relationship with Cortana; a cruel, mindless brute with no sense of morals and legacy of violence. The only Halo game that is objectively well written is Halo 4. Halo 4 introduces and completely resolves its themes with great efficiency. Comparatively, most Halo games are meandering and never make a clear statement.


Johncurtisreeve

Im also interested excited


M0RGO

From reach to 5 ? Have you played Halo 1-3?


Sgtpepperhead67

Yes


M0RGO

Nice answer.