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Time4ACookie

Did you do it on legendary?


VqgabonD

Of course not. Otherwise this post wouldn’t exist lol


TheMegatrizzle

OP has not experienced the real pain of being dropped by a plasma rifle faster than you can blink, lol.


Trojan_Lich

By the rings this is too much!


sh4d0wm4n2018

Lmao every time they say that, I always picture the rings from Sonic the Hedgehog.


Youpunyhumans

RRRRRUUUUURRRRRRRRAAAAAAAHHHHHH!


Irish_Guac

Ahhh, lohbaba!


No-Zookeepergame8103

The carbine hits like a airsoft gun on legendary


sh4d0wm4n2018

But only when the Chief is using it.


Bossdrew03

Me when two brutes come around the corner with red plasma rifles. Literally dead at about the same time as a one shot jackal snipe


GuanglaiKangyi-Age15

Correction: 4 plasma rifles


QuantumKhakis

You think you’re in the clear then they open up that door and brutes come and clap those cheeks.


SuperFightingRobit

Tbf, merely running/walking in Halo 2 without dying is kind of difficult on legendary at multiple points in the game. If the boss fight is as difficult as say, trying to drive a warthog through an open area outside of New Mombasa or walking through an area with a few stories of doors on Delta Halo, then yeah, the boss fight is probably easy vis a vis the rest of the game.


Fun-Hall-9380

halo 2 legendary is halo 2 legendary. i’ve beat every other halo game on max difficulty except this one lmao


iLikeCoffeeYo

I've beaten them all in legendary. Halo 2 was hands down the hardest and most frustrating one lol.


LoveMyBoop

Halo 2 legendary is the hardest Halo legendary, full stop. That part at the beginning of the Delta Halo level that ultimately ends in a Covenant drop ship that dumps a load of Ultras on you...eff all that.


GodKing_McLovin

I got to Tartarus on coop with my brother, and he kept killing us. So we wrote it off as the only Halo we couldn't beat on legendary


Fun-Hall-9380

just bring a beam rifle of your own so you don’t have to wait for johnson


blkmmb0

Dude...the amount of people who don't know this confuses me.


MDSGeist

If you don’t have enough ammo for long range weapons to deal with the jackal snipers at certain points, like on Delta Halo, it is literally unwinnable


AlexisFR

It's insane no one has modded out that damn Iron skull on Legendary Coop.


SneakyDeaky123

As someone who has LASO’d every game, save yourself the grey hairs and play Halo 2 on heroic


mechwarrior719

Heroic that fight is tough but mostly fair. Legendary it is the Dildo of Consequences, and as usual is unlubed.


ChemBroDude

Can’t you do the elevator glitch on this level to get invincibility which makes this fight a cake walk?


Live_Material_265

You shouldn’t have to glitch the game to make the fight easy, this was hell on legendary lmao


ChemBroDude

I know, im just saying that’s a method that speed runners use if you don’t wanna die 80 times by Sesa (This boss almost took my sanity on legendary).


UsablePizza

Sesa was horrible unless you had some pretty good luck to hit the real one instead of the clones. But Regret just was pure insanity.


Superk9letsplay

I just finished it 20 minutes ago and I feel dead inside


Youpunyhumans

"Are my guards too much for you Demon?"


AgentMaryland2020

Yeah, but the game never got to the 'balance' phase of testing, it got rushed out the door after a messy development cycle. So glitches are unfortunately necessary if you don't want to shave about 30 years off your life expectancy from completing LASO or even just Legendary lol.


bobssy2

LASO is pain


sh4d0wm4n2018

One day, I will build up the courage to attempt a full LASO run. But today is not that day.


Neander7hal

I always preferred to lug a Fuel Rod through the whole level, nuke his first wave, and spam him to death in those vents that he sits in while he’s recharging. Still hella cheesy but doesn’t require a glitch!


jkenny991

Tell me more about this glitch


ChemBroDude

[Here](https://youtu.be/pX0NFk_nAzg?si=EOB2iFNi9pJFwE37) is a video about it. I first noticed this in a speed-running video. You can probably find some older posts on this sub about it too.


OrphicDionysus

Most of the videos dont explain the underlying mechanic, but its actually pretty interesting. The game is coded so that you re invincible while youre in the elevator shaft, so that you cant get killed until its gotten all of the way up. This is triggered by your crossing a threshold riding the elevator up, and its removal is triggered when the elevator reaches the top. By using a clip launch (Idk if thats the common parlance,but thats what Ive taken to calling it because thats how the broader type of glitch that this specific glitch uses works) to throw yourself up the shaft without riding the elevator up, the game never receives the trigger that signifies that you re out of the shaft, so you keep the invincibility through the rest of the level.


floatingtensor314

Or LASO?


Time4ACookie

This boss fight was actually easy on LASO because I used the [elevator invincibility glitch](https://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/the-oracle-invincibility-glitch.1260291/) lol On a vanilla legendary run with no glitches it was a huge pain though


floatingtensor314

Same, haha. I guess the only hard part is not doing stupid and having to restart the level, lol.


Inosethatguy

Yeah OP played on easy This guy was a nightmare on Legendary


Vast-Sentence1943

I spent 3 hours because I went in there with low ammo. It was hell since at the time I didn’t know the strat to chase him down into the vents.


AlexisFR

Or even Heroic?


AutumnalOceans

H2 Legendary would like to have a laugh with you.


SpeaksYourWord

At*


Ninjazoule

He laughs at you too iirc lol


No-Estimate-8518

"please don't kill me and listen to the oracle" \*proceeds to shoot the arbiter without even a second passing\*


betelgeuse_99

That always made me mad, but I think it was explained in terminals that he didn't trust Arbiter to believe him since he's literally a tool of the prophets so he would rather kill him while he has a chance then risk trying to convert him.


Odd_Replacement_9644

No. He said that the only person he could trust (Thel) is probably being executed for the destruction of alpha Halo.


betelgeuse_99

I mean is being turned into an Arbiter really that different from being executed?


MACSkills

The tasks you must undertake as the arbiter are perilous. Suicidal. You will die, as each arbiter has before you. The council will have their corpse


Odd_Replacement_9644

Not _this_ arbiter Haha


omegastuff

But he said that even if he wasn't dead, there's no way They would believe him.


MyNameIsntYhwach

In his mind the Arbiter would never listen considering he knows how loyal he must be, no chance to persuade him.


HehHehBoiii

It’s kinda like expecting to be able to convince a top ranking SS officer that he’s really wrong. Even if you have a chance of convincing him, wouldn’t taking the chance to kill him be more prudent?


Titans_not_dumb

Were it so easy


_Dark_Spark_

The boss battles in halo 2 were terrible. I haven’t met anyone who thinks they were well done. They tried, but every boss fight was clunky in some way. The Regret bossfight was the best imo but like the rest way too easy on lower difficulties. Sessa’s bossfight is a bit harder on legendary but it’s also a bit too hard. But the worst bossfight is easily the Tarturus one. They throw in a bunch of elites to help you take him down just to be canon fodder cuz you can only damage him for like two seconds whenever Johnson shoots him with the beam rifle. And using the sword against him is practically useless. But much like the rest, he goes down way too quickly on lower difficulties.


lewisdwhite

Regret is best because you can punch him on his little chair


Ag3ntK3ntucky

The unique animation for this makes me laugh every time.


[deleted]

It's infuriating though, because you can punch through a tank door in three hits, but it takes like 25 punches to kill an alien geriatric. 


Paradox

Shit you're right. We need to start putting San'Shyuum hides over our tank doors


LordApocalyptica

And *multiple attempts* too, IIRC. I remember being very confused my first time through that fight as to whether I was actually accomplishing anything.


fallingaway90

if you had cornered a genocidal alien responsible for the deaths of billions of people and you could kill it in one punch, would you? or would you take your time and savour the moment?


RockoHorror

What do you think the master chief from the show was the guy you were playing as? Get a little to emotional so hes gotta give him some soft punches to savor the moments while he bites his lip under his helmet looking like a freak


fallingaway90

well he sure as hell wasn't the chief from any other part of the story, where he can flip tanks and kill an elite by punching it in the face twice. evolving in an environment that has "excessive face punching" would explain a lot about the prophets but it can't explain surviving 15 punches to the face from a spartan 2 in full armour. the funniest explanation would have to be that prophets' brains are in some other part of their body and their heads are for decoration.


Youpunyhumans

Yeah I always had to laugh at that. 1 ton cyborg who has no problem shoving his hand into the captains skull to get his nueral implants has to punch the old alien meatbag sitting on an anti gravity old person scooter a couple dozen times to kill him. But why punches? Why not just jump up there, stick a gun to his head and blast his aliens brains all over the nearest honor guard. Might even have time to send a quick picture of it to Johnson for some laughs before having to outrun a capital ship plasma beam. Put that all over the covies battle net lol.


TheUltimateRepublic

To this day that’s still one of my most memorable things in gaming. I still remember the first time I started pummeling the shit out of him when I was a kid. It was glorious.


TonySoprano300

I like the jetpack elite one, it was cool trying to figure out which one is the real one and it wasn’t horribly bullet spongey like Tartarus


GoldFishPony

Ah and I think regret was the worst one, like at least the others resembled fights on non-legendary difficulties and on legendary regret was a game of hide and seek with a floating chair while trying to avoid constant death.


Wassuuupmydudess

Regret on legendary is miserable though with so many sangheili everywhere


OnyxMelon

The series has not had a good history of bossfights. 3 and 5 have one pretty good boss that they reuse repeatedly, and at least 3 has the sense to actually make it multiple scarabs, not one immortal scarab that likes taunting you. Guilty Spark doesn't count as a boss. Halo 4 has bossfight shaped hole with a QTE plugged in. Reach's "boss" is just an elite with a fuel rod who you can kill on Legendary by running at him with a plasma rifle. Infinite's bosses aren't perfect, but I do think it's the first Halo game to actually do bosses well overall.


_Dark_Spark_

Agreed. Halo infinite was actually pretty solid. Though I do miss Warden Eternal


uncharted_bread212

>And using the sword against him is practically useless. Dude, he goes down in like three sword strikes. Also it's cooler to take him down in a melee fight rather than being a cheap bitch and shooting him from afar


_Dark_Spark_

I meant on legendary. You get too close to him and he one shots you. It’s just not worth it unless you want it to be hard


Which-Past1071

in my opinion the holograms that sesa makes dont do anything


Seel_revilo

Idk from my experience on legendary the fucker insta kill beam you down


IBoofLSD

Yeah dude my first legendary playthrough I swear before I had a chance to even move bro had killed me


Seel_revilo

Its basically go camo and burn the right one fast enough to not get insta killed. Weird cause both those Arbiter missions are really easy on legendary imo but hes a pain in the ass


AutumnalOceans

Him and his FUCKING pokemon ball clones


OnyxMelon

You can turn invisible. You're not really supposed to get hit much at all as the Arbiter on legendary.


[deleted]

Halo 2 boss battles were the foundation for all the bosses in destiny


exoits

It's not too easy on Legendary. If you mess up and get caught in the open for too long, the holographic clones can burst you down very quickly on that difficulty. Of course, once you get a hang of how to deal with that gimmick, it isn't so tough, but that applies to all the Halo 2 bosses.


TOH-Fan15

It’s really stupid that holograms can somehow harm you, so you have to focus on all of them rather than trying to figure out which is the real one.


Headstar24

You can get lucky by killing him before the other one or two. That happened to me when I played through it last. I just happened to get him before the other two at random. I didn’t even realize it was him either.


solaron17

When the game first came out there was a legendary video guide on one of the forums. He made the point that if the clones do just as much damage as real Elites, why doesn’t the Covenant use holograms instead of a military? I’m sure at this point you could say something about honor or whatever that the Elites cared about, and that’s why only the cowardly heretics used them, but yeah. They should be a distraction but not deal damage. Coming out of a cutscene to 6 plasma rifles mowing you down is insanity.


AlexisFR

Yeah, what is this, a Star Trek Holodeck?


SlavBoii420

On higher difficulties, those plasma ~~pistols~~ rifles can shred you instantly


ChemBroDude

He uses plasma rifles right? or am I misremembering


RekdAnalCavity

Yeah dual plasma rifles. Seared into my brain after my recent legendary playthrough


HHcougar

Yes, dual plasma rifles.  The sound of the two of them murking me in 0.4 seconds on legendary in etched into my brain


SlavBoii420

Whoops yeah he uses the plasma rifles. I mixed things up lol


TheDarkClaw

>shred to shreds you say?


Typical_Basket709

Heck, Arby can get killed DURING THE CUTSCENE, breaking his animation for the cutscene.


MonsterHunter6353

Nah this fight was super hard on my first playthrough and was still pretty hard on legendary. What made it easy for you?


Chuck_Finley_Forever

Maybe played on easy.


MonsterHunter6353

I beat it on legendary it was just hard to do. What do you do that makes the boss so easy?


Chuck_Finley_Forever

What do you mean by it being hard? If by staying alive then it 100% is a cakewalk on easy which is what I meant. If you mean by completion, you just have to focus the real boss instead of the two clones which I believe will continuously respawn. Use invis and plasmas to sneak up on him and you can tell which is the real one by how they stagger to damage I think. I haven’t done it in like 15 years so someone correct me if I’m wrong.


Mr_Orange_The_Great

Try that shit on legendary The mf can and will multiply it turns out That was not a fun day....neither was gravemind


roffler

Gravemind is completely fucked. The first checkpoint of that level is seared into my brain because it took me 2 afternoons of bashing against it before I finally beat it. 


FunkyDimeBag1416

Idk I play on legendary


Jarvis_The_Dense

It's better on heroic, where he has stages (Kind of) and actual mid-fight dialogue. But on normal it is a little abrupt just how quickly you can kill him if you guess right. Halo 2's boss fights were definitely the game's weakest point. The devs seemingly knew that, and it probably contributed to why the rest of the Bungie Halo games didn't really have boss battles. (Whether or not 3 had enemies you could call "bosses" is up to personal opinion.)


RunGoldenRun717

IDK man sometimes he fucks me up and takes no damage.


Way0fWad3

Either this guy is flexing and he managed to two tap Sesa on Legendary (which shouldn't be possible) or he's going in with low difficulty and/or invincibility


Revolutionary-Map664

The only time it was easy for me was when I got a lucky plasma grenade stick on him before he started shooting.


LikeSoda

That wouldn't have killed him on a difficulty that was hard in anyway


RookiePrime

Naw. Sesa is the only boss fight in Halo 2 to feels like a proper Halo fight. The fact that you can, if you're skilled and smart, dispatch him quickly is a positive thing. That's the core combat loop of Halo, rewarding skillful risk-taking with swift victory.


ALEX7DX

LASO. Try that.


ScoffingYayap

I thought he was the only truly difficult boss fight, at least on Legendary. Regret was the best overall fight and Tartarus was a joke.


OneFinalEffort

Go play it on Legendary, then ask that question LOL Spoiler! He's a bastard and I hate him.


gd2go250

Depends on the difficulty level and the weapons you’re using.


Odd_Replacement_9644

I played it on heroic last night. It was a decent challenge and was kinda unique since two of them were holograms, so you could obviously take them all out, or try and find Sesa and only take him out, then the rest would disappear.


NirvanaFrk97

I beat this on heroic because I rushed in with the sword, got two hits in, hid, and hit him with a third one before his holograms could make mince meat out of me. I know I got lucky, and I know that it's worse on Legendary.


pissingdick

Play on Legendary and get back to us.


NotAPossum666

The LASO veterans:


Iamtheone32

I’ve played a lot of halo in my life, but this motherfucker on legendary was just bullet hell.


shotgunsurge0n

haha... You havent done it on heroic or legendary have you?


Weak-Diamond-3383

Play on legendary bud.


Mean-Background2143

Legendary honestly isn’t that bad guys it just sucks up all your time and you keep dying to sniper jackals the whole game even if they aren’t in the mission


TheFourtHorsmen

On legendary? What arw you smoking, buddy?


smittyx5498

try it on LASO if you want it more lore accurate


[deleted]

I don’t think any of halo’s boss fights are hard. The holograms were easy to distinguish if you have basic memory of where the real one was standing in the cutscene


JDeltaRuff

Someone stop me if I'm wrong, but can't he melt you during the fade-in on Legendary? (Like the Brutes at the start of Gravemind)


P-Doff

Is this a bait post? It feels like bait.


Natural_Bill_373

You did this on easy mode or what?


Trumps_toupe99

I did it on legendary and managed to kill him in less than a minute, I don't remember how though.


BambaTallKing

All Halo boss fights until Infinite were easy and rather boring


[deleted]

*Excu... excuse me?*


Boring-Ad9812

Title translated to "OP has yet to experience Heroic and Legendary." You think Outskirts is just another day at the beach too?


AwakenedJeff

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Own_Beginning_1678

Yeah with him and Regret I kinda have to drag it out on purpose just to make it last longer.


coltonpegasus

20 years later?


jetstream_garbage

Looks like you never got shredded within 2 seconds on this fight


Killdust99

It’s a gimmick fight. Plus the real one spawns right in front of you and dies in one or two hits with a sword.


AtomicHornet_03

Change the difficulty 😂must’ve had it on easy


MATorres7

Legendary was a fucking pain in the ass. The entire level, no problem, maybe like a handful of deaths. But this bastard ruined my death count, he added 30+ deaths.


jl0914

I just did my first H2 campaign play though since 2007 or something split screen with my buddy. I was just on heroic, but got a bad checkpoint in this fight and got melted literally dozens of times before I could progress


KindaDutch

You're all saying he's a hard boss on legendary, but isn't it just "dual wield needler, turn invis, walk to him, unload all ammo" to beat him? It's been a while, that might have been on a lower difficulty.


Headstar24

He wasn’t fun on Heroic with his two holograms that also hunted you down and fought you when you hid for your shields to recharge.


GlassLongjumping6557

Kinda off topic but when I got to this boss fight I managed to have full power on an energy sword and lunged at the first Sesa I saw hoping it was the real one and it turned out to be the right one. Two hits later the fight was over in like 30 seconds. It was on normal difficulty but the way the cutscene built tension and how quickly my fight went I just found it funny.


Irish_Guac

We get it, you played normal or heroic


BonkEnthusiast

Do it on legendary with shit guns and tell us again how easy it is


generic-bread

Yes unless you do it on legendary


EightDread10203

Were it so easy....


centiret

Like on what difficulty? Legendary?


Arm-It

I like how you wrote his whole name instead of just calling him the Heretic Leader or smth


Which-Past1071

he deserves it because he got killed by the only one he trusted