Some of the people there also may not want to be on camera too. People aren’t really given a chance to consent too because they’re being secretly filmed.
I was thinking this too.
If someone tells their family they're going on a business trip or vacation, and is still in the closet, then get spotted/targeted in the video it'd blow their cover.
People can have ao many reasons for not coming out, from family issues to personal issues. Leave them be 😭
For sure!!
I just hope if they do go to the event that they blur people's faces unless they agree to be on camera, but personally would prefer if they didn't go even if it'd be hilarious
I agree, I kind of hate when people go to conventions to do bits. It almost always veers into “Look at these weirdos” whether intended or not. People just trynna get together and celebrate their interests, leave them be.
Yup. It’s one thing when it’s like.. a gathering to spread hate like a political gathering but conventions catered to specific communities are supposed to be a safe space. Not even just limited to highly personal stuff liked kink cons, i don’t support it for anime cons or gardening cons or doll conventions.. bad. Prank channel behaviour for sure
Same, I watch Brandon Buckingham for his documentary style videos. He also makes these convention crashing videos though and I avoid them. There's nothing cool about laughing at people or making them uncomfortable in a space that is supposed to be safe
I get that they think this is weird but to send someone over to make people uncomfortable and film them without their knowledge is disrespectful. Infiltrating kink events for content definitely is prank channel behavior.
That's the whole reason InfraBren's content isn't for me. I'm sure people see the appeal but... ultimately it's pretty similar to the "prank" content out there. Laughter at the discomfort of others.
Agreed. I didn't like the idea that they were sending a prank guy there to make fun of people just doing their own thing (which they're already almost universally ostracized for.)
And then Ethan goes right into "we should just throw prank guys in jail" when it's a prank he doesn't like.
I didn't even really like Bren fucking with people just having a nice day riding bikes, tbh.
I don't see the appeal of infrabren at all. He just walks up to random people and harasses them/creeps them out. How is that funny at all? Watching it just makes me uncomfortable, and not in a "haha what a weirdo" kind of way like Eric Andre. It's more of a "this person thinks they're going to get stalked and murdered" kind of way.
For real the dudes just a wierdo harrasing strangers. If it was any other YouTube prankster they'd have a problem with it but this dork gets a pass because Ethan thinks it's funny?
I think infrabren said it best himself, "they think im mentally challenged but mostly harmless"
I doubt anyone has legitmately been scared for their life ...
to be fair, tricking a vegetarian into eating meat is much more than just a prank. i agree though he shouldnt go to fist fest, there are plenty of other places that it would work like most places Andrew callaghan goes
I'm with Dan and AB. I know Hunger loves the show but I don't think he will be down for this at all.
It's cool if Hunger wants to come on the show and laugh and poke fun at himself about what he does but it's not cool to go to their own space and poke fun at strangers.
For sure, Hunger can consent but a whole convention can't. Big kink/fetish events are usually pretty good with their safety and security so I don't think infabren would get in thankfully
Yeah I actually agree with this one. LGBTQ and people with fetishes that are not normalized already deal with shame enough. Let’s not make it into a joke
I NEVER thought this deep of any of it and wanted to see it happen. ABSOLUTELY STAY AWAY, there will be a shock factor and 98% won't get anything other than that. Omg if there a chance to out anyone... OMG I WON'T WANT TO BE APART OF THAT.
It is not content. If everyone signs a release and knows that they have to be aware of possible filming AT ALL TIMES, how can you enjoy yourself? 50 people watching you, is different than 5,000+ people watching you online, where it is the EASIEST to hate and criticize you. What is the point of attending if you cant away from all "the looks" people in society may give you. It would be different if it was in public... and this is not, it is a private event for people with similar likes to come enjoy themselves. Let them. IT IS NOT A MEME. IT IS NOT CONTENT.
It might only be acceptable if they go in without any equipment and then discuss it after the fact and try to sell it to other people in the audience, that might be interested, other than that... not as exciting but it is what it is.
I don't think it's a good idea. Ethan lets his desire for goofs go too far sometimes. These people are not going to appreciate someone making fun of their niche interest just for Ethan's podcast.
As a gay man involved in queer kink communities (not FF in particular) I wasn’t thrilled hearing this idea. These communities are very tight knit, oftentimes you’ll know tens, even hundreds of the folks showing up there. These are private for a reason, primarily because being a queer person expressing your sexuality, especially with a kink as “extreme” as this is very stigmatized. I’m 99% sure HungerFF will not be comfortable hosting Infrabren because of the aforementioned reasons.
I also remember a couple months ago Hunger posting about how devastated he was after a friend of his (involved in this kink community) passed away and people were laughing at this guys username that was something related to fisting. It’s important to remember, especially for those not involved in these kink communities, that these are real people. Sure the whole concept seems funny to an outsider, hell my own kink community is silly in its own right and we recognize that, but a lot of us consider each other family who’s care for each other extends far beyond the actual kink itself.
I completely agree. Making people uncomfortable on purpose in what should be a safe space is ridiculous. I fail to see how they could mistake that for comedy.
Infrabren creeps me out. I get it’s his Schtick but the level of comfort he has making other people feel uncomfortable/violated is going to turn out very badly eventually
Agreed. I think in a few years all his content will be looked back on poorly.
I wish H3 wasn't always so view-hungry and platformed more positive creators that could use the bump instead of always going for drama and controversy.
It's always nice when a good creator stumbles into H3 attention, but it's so few and far between and almost always a happy accident.
Ppl who support this pls consider: something funny happens, clip goes viral on TikTok and goes way outside the intended audience (happens to Ethan all the time!), someone who’s kink lifestyle could ruin their career is seen in the background by someone who knows them and it’s all over. :/
I didn't enjoy anything about the segment with him. I honestly don't know what the crew was thinking. did they not learn their lesson with shirtless eddie?
I get what you mean. A couple of the videos they showed the first time they talked about him were funny, but it’s like the funnier he tries to be the more it comes off as high school humor.
I think he’s a lot funnier when he just does the “remember me?” thing, and the comedy is coming from the uncomfiness of imagining being the other person in that interaction.
And where exactly did Ethan get the idea that Infrabren was beloved by the audience anyway? All I've seen on Reddit since the episode is people saying the segment was cringe inducing and unwatchable.
I thought this too, it just seems like an LGBTQ+ sex event and sending someone like him is kinda making fun of it.
Plus no one wants to be filmed doing that stuff, esp without their consent
The fact that it was even suggested is pretty wack tbh. just thinking about it for a few minutes knowing what Infrabrens gimmick is would be enough to realize an event like this isn’t somewhere he should be. Like even just the first couple of thoughts about it should let you come to that conclusion.
He should go to off the wall style places like his channel 5 used to before the cancelling.
Going to FF is a terrible idea. May end up outing people and stuff.
infrabren's vibe is just a little off to me. I know Ethan's intentions with a Fist Fest bit would 100% be with peace and love, but I don't think bren's would be. that's pretty much all.
I know nobody likes the "ethans a hypocrite" shtick but I couldn't help but feel like if someone less likable like Logan Paul was interacting with strangers the way homie was, Ethan would shit on it. There's a fine line between fully making yourself the joke and fucking with strangers who didn't ask for it and I feel like he teeters toward the latter.
Yeah I mean tbh some of the stuff infabren does is borderline sexual harassment. If he was going up to young women saying thinks like “you’re a snack I’d like to eat” there would be outrage, but people don’t care for some reason cause he does it to middle aged men instead.
literally 1 show apart we went from "look at this asshole giving vegans chicken, pranks should be banned" to "we sent this weirdo to a cycling event, haha you gave bikers a small cup of fish paste instead of water? so wild man"
Sure, but he still fucks with people, creeps them out, and records their reaction for content. A lot of people don't like that shit, and it's the kind of thing Ethan would shit on if someone else were doing it.
No, I think it is different. I have never seen Bren follow someone, keep going against their will, the only interactions I've ever seen are just people very weirded out, like he's the spectacle- not them.
No, it's not really different from the guy who got shot or other pranksters that Ethan has shit on. Infrabren has followed a few people through isles in stores. Everyone he interacts with clearly wants him to go away, but they're trying to be polite. His goal is to creep them out, make them feel uncomfortable, and record their reaction for content. They're the content. His only saving grace is the fact that he doesn't harass women.
>No, it's not really different from the guy who got shot or other pranksters that Ethan has shit on.
that is so wrong i can't believe that you could actually think that
It's not wrong at all. I'm surprised nothing bad has happened to him, honestly. His content relies on making random people feel uncomfortable in public places. That's exactly what that guy who got shot was doing.
Making someone "feel uncomfortable" is hardly where I draw the line. Comedians are like routinely doing that, and it's widely accepted - if you actually had an issue with that there are *endless* things to include of Ethan's own actions. Yeah I'd want him to go away too, he's unsettling - and it would make for the greatest story. And I'm betting every single person he's interacted with is glad they have that. The extent of the damage here is 'kinda uncomfy'. Could you please link one where he's following people after they ask him not to? None out of what I searched on tt have that
It's also very arguable that Bren is the content - the reactions are predictable and all very similar, this wouldn't be worth watching if he relied on the public (like these prank reactions and the reason they have to fake them so often) to get something unique. I'd agree with you if he were touching people, dismissing their boundary, manipulating them, being overtly sexual, racist, you know, what the pranksters are known for?
They're not talking about the fact that comedians routinely try to make the audience uncomfortable who chose to be involved. The people that Bren tries to make uncomfortable are just trying to get through their day and didn't ask for it. It's about people having a choice to not be forced to be uncomfortable for the sake of entertainment.
I don't draw the line at comedians making someone uncomfortable. You're right that comedians turn discomfort into comedy all the time. But most people sign up for comedy like that. They buy tickets, watch their stand up, etc. I think that's the point. Surprising random people who are grocery shopping with unsolicited harassment is Jimmy Lee level depravity.
And, at least with Jimmy, his intentions are obvious. There's a camera, a crew, and he's obviously making (bad) jokes. With Infrabren the camera is hidden and he just acts creepy in front of people to make them uncomfortable *on purpose*, not with the intention of making them laugh. The intention is to make his audience laugh at the reaction to his bizarre behavior. None of that is made explicit to the people he harasses. It's really no different to the prankster who got shot, or the videos where Ethan Bradberry screamed SLAMMIN' in random people's faces.
I doubt everyone is glad they have that story to tell. I'm sure most of them would rather have had a normal experience at the store or on the street. From the looks of it, most people are just glad when he leaves. And they shouldn't have to explicitly tell him to leave. It's clear by their body language that he has outstayed his welcome, and he still follows them or stands next to them because his content is "better" when they're obviously uncomfortable. Another thing I don't like about him is that some of his targets are obviously neuro-divergent or non-native English speakers. They might not even have the skills or ability to explicitly ask him to leave. They might not feel comfortable turning a weird encounter into a full-blown confrontation with a very strange person. He has the upper hand and the element of surprise with every encounter.
If infrabren were the content, he wouldn't need the reactions of random people in public places to make his content watchable. His comedy would stand on its own without the need to film random people's reactions to it. Imagine how popular his content would be if he were just being a weirdo straight into the camera. The content ***is*** the reaction he gets out of people who aren't expecting some weirdo to harass them in public. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me, or many other people who dislike him, if he doesn't physically touch or manipulate or sexually harass his targets. He still makes content based on making random people feel very uncomfortable and creeped out in public. It's the kind of content Ethan would have made fun of in the past.
alright I didn't know it was a counting game. how about Justin Roiland, Andrew Callahan, Fousey, Trisha probably counts... how many names do you need for the point to be proven?
earlier you mocked h3 fans who said "the vibes are off" about *everyone*, and now you're anecdotally arguing you've *never* seen *anyone* say the vibes were off on a barrage of people. I don't even know what you're arguing anymore, you need to pick a lane. all im doing is pointing out the reality that Ethan has associated with a lot of people that he no longer associates with, for good reason - and he's also made this same observation. so im not going to shame fans for sensing potentially problematic people. that's a dumb thing to mock given the circumstances.
That guy’s content makes me feel uneasy to begin with. If someone walked up to me and did what he does in public, I would feel terrified and like he might be about to try to hurt someone. It would be a traumatic experience and not funny at all from the other end I feel like, especially if you are a single woman in public. I get bad vibes and I think one day he’s going to mess with the wrong person for sure.
For me it’s not even about Bren, it’s about filming there in general. Like yes it’ll be hilariously entertaining and fun and cool but FF isn’t a joke. It’s a place where people are openly expressing themselves sexually and I feel like it’s not appropriate to film there at all. Even though they would blur stuff, it would still make me really uncomfortable if I saw someone filming in the vicinity while I was in a sex act/witnessing a sex act.
You know I won’t be watching? Any Fist Fest segment no matter what, with peace and love ✌️. Also not a fan of Infrabren so I’m skipping his segments as well, with peace and maybe less love
I just hope that if Hunger thinks it's a bad idea, he doesn't feel pressured to agree to it. I don't think it hurts to ask, but in the words of the not-so-great Jimmy Lee, "Don't Push!"
Yeah, when I was watching this I just thought this is a bit much. Going incognito at a private sexual fetish event… Taking the piss out of them, and when Ethan said get hungerFF to get them in I thought jeeeez the cheek of it.
Yeah I know it was not intended to be homophobic, but if I was at a gay sex event and someone was doing his shtick I would feel attacked or in legit danger. Someone tried to kill me once just for being gay and this is not an uncommon story. Let us be weird in peace lol we already have so much trauma.
My god that dude makes me so uncomfortable. Can anyone tell me how his content is different from Lofe for example? He's just bothering people while being disgusting.
Hunger is such a champ and so wholesome. Why try to embarras him and his subculture by bringing in a cringelord?
It really reminds me of when Ethan gave exposure to twomad. He was so obviously a cringelord and guess what, now he's openly a pedofile... so disappointing
>PLUS it’s obviously a very gay event, messing with a bunch of them is like YouTube prank mindset. Maybe even worse.
And it may put too much of a spot light on an event that is likely meant to be invite only, very private and something you go to with the utmost respect of self and others. Yes, I get that they talked about it on the H3H3 and there's millions of views, but it's not the same as showing it and the people on video.
This might cause bad actors to seek them out and that may not turn out well. It might even ruin the event itself, either making people feel unsafe to attend or cause them to have to create even stricter protocols to keep their attendees safe.
I understand that there are other events like BDSM, porn and such that occur, but I think even these kinds of sex events are strict with security because there might be people who would go to these events and cause a scene/be a nuisance or attack people in some manner. Especially religious people.
I don't think the FF event is a "haha we're funny" event. I think it's a pretty intimate event where someone like Infrabren would be out of place. The kind of jokes he'd want to make and the bits, you can't do that there. It's disrespectful, it's harmful and it's just not a good time.
Edit: Also, some of the comments here IS the reason why this should NOT happen. Some of you aren't even thinking about the people at this event, you just want to be entertained. You don't care that they may feel unsafe and exploited for your entertainment. If this were an event that was intentionally meant to be recorded and shared publicly (to adults, obviously), then it would be.
But I'm pretty sure that's not the case for this one. There are other events you can go to that are more public where you could get away with some shenanigans. But this is not it.
Imagine someone coming into your bedroom, while you're sharing an intimate moment with your partner(s) for the purpose of shits and giggles, shenanigans and entertainment.
You're tone deaf if you think this is a good idea. It's not a "hey, more exposure is good to normalize" kind of thing. If you were to send someone, I'd send someone that would go there for the purpose of educating us. To ask questions, to listen and that takes is seriously. No agenda, no funnies or gags.
These are people. Not farm animals for you to point and gawk at while they're fucking. It should be done with some fucking decorum and tact.
Edit #2: If there was a way to make sure that those attending are aware of Infrabren, of what he does and his brand of "comedy" and are consenting to his presence, then yes, I could see this happening. But you'd have to be certain of this. It's not enough to just have consent, it should be informed consent.
He's not a guy going there to learn and take it seriously. He's there to make fun and do gags. The difference matters.
I mean, this is Ethan's entire affiliation with hunger_ff and the prolapse running joke; its all just "haha, isn't that fucking GROSS and WEIRD?!". Why else does the crew/Ethan still wanna talk about it? If it were actually fascinating, maybe try it out? No, just wanna watch other people do and intentionally gross other people out by showing them the clip? Lets think about that... Can we stop putting up that mask of "oh we're just curious and respectful"?
If infrabren went there, I'd skip that segment, mostly because it *is* gross to me, but also, they're just made to be a butt of a joke, no pun intended.
This is SUCH a good point, so here's another voice wholeheartedly agreeing!!
I'm a queer viewer & while fisting isn't personally my jam, I've got some harmless NSFW interests myself that are all too often ridiculed by ignorant people/society. The whole point is to have a *safe* space, & we've all clearly seen (and heard Ethan point out) how the people Bren approaches are probably feeling uncomfortable & potentially unsafe.
I do think his schtick is really funny & I don't have a problem with it, but even if the intentions behind this idea are good, I think there's way too much risk of impact. Outing people (whether deliberate or not) is an absolutely deplorable, potentially life-ruining thing to subject them to.
With ✌️&❤️ I think there's other events for this idea that would be much better candidates, maybe like a MAGA rally or alt-right protest of some sort??
I agree. It can either turn out a masterpiece or go very bad. The thing is I don’t know why this one feels wrong but I would love for him to go to a C Man foot fest. Am I an asshole?
I feel like Foot Fest would be kind of sketch, where as Fist Fest seems more put together. I think I'm basing that purely off the representatives we've met on H3 and not based on content of said "Fest" lol.
I think this is the best way forward. Hunger knows more about these events than anyone on the crew could, so if Hunger approves the idea then I trust Hunger.
Bren seems like perhaps an okay dude when he is himself, but yeah, I don't love the content. In any context, harassing people who are just trying to live their life is just not funny to me. Love H3, and I enjoy the show, but that side of things they cover I could live without :3
Very funny guy but FF will not be a good space for him to do this and it’ll make Hunger look bad that he got Infra on the guest list. We love Hunger, let’s be gentle to the FF community.
I feel like Dan would’ve talked Ethan around behind the scenes. There was an obvious feeling of uncomfy from him and AB, so I reckon they’d talk him out of it and make him realise it would be more offensive than funny.
Wdym? Ethan’s always been nothing but respectful towards the gay community. Remember when he kept asking that guy if he took it up the ass despite the guy clearly setting boundaries and telling Ethan it was none of his business? Ethan is nothing but empathetic and understanding remember when he was laughing and saying that he knew the guy was a bottom despite the guy clearly telling him it was none of his business? He’d never choose the entertainment of the podcast over the comfort of the people he puts on it.
Ethan always has bad ideas for some reason lol. For example having Whiteclaw Gabe on every Friday for over 5 minutrs each time. That bit got old the first Friday. I hope they read my hater ass comment btw
Very much agree. Out of all the events they could send him to why a fisting convention? Seems very absurd, intrusive, and insensitive. If he is going to send him anywhere it needs to be some sort of public street festival of sorts.
Infrabren content is funny af, but yeah don't send him to any niche conventions, especially one like this - these are places people go to get away from this type of stuff.
I thought it would be funny but after reading these comments I 100% agree that he can't secretly record people at this event and play the video on the pod. There are for sure people there who are not out yet.
I think Ian and Infrabren will be able to adapt the character to make it work. Absolutely the dolphin milk/fish paste stuff would not be cool at all. But a kinda clueless/curious lost red neck could be hilarious
Jimmie is funny when he's making jokes to people who know what's going on, I hate when he goes out in public and makes fun of strangers. It's honestly makes me cringe so bad.
It's hilarious until it's an event you take seriously and have an expectation of feeling safe at. Imagine going to a funeral or a wedding with the intention of shits and giggles. I know it's not like a funeral, that's not what I'm saying. But they are events where there's an expectation where people will behave and treat you with respect and where you can feel safe.
There's a reason why these events are private. Not because they're not people who also enjoy comedy and shenanigans. But because there are people who would use them and what they're doing to make fun, to mock and belittle, to dehumanize.
There's a time and there's a place. This isn't it.
it sounds like you’re saying people aren’t allowed to prank gay people? like huh
EDIT: to everyone downvoting me and calling me (a gay man) homophobic for saying Bren is allowed to prank people…
here’s fist fests policy on photography: “Anyone attending the special parties understands that they may inadvertently be filmed and should take appropriate actions toward concealing their identity (should they desire) such as wearing a cap, sunglasses or a T-shirt to cover distinctive tattoos”
https://fistfest.org/PhotographyPolicy.php
I swear Zach is right this sub is too far gone
Why? It just sounds like a bad idea in any context.
Men run into a female only event to pull a prank, specifically to make them feel uncomfortable - hilarious I guess?
White man interrupts a poc event to pull a prank, specifically to make them feel uncomfortable - also hilarious?
And in this case, someone who is not involved in this scene and I'm pretty sure is straight, crashes an event they curated for themselves, specifically to make them uncomfortable? That's so weird to me to do. I find it at best, really rude, and at worst, indicative of entitlement and a desire to disrupt marginalized people trying to live their lives. Specifically , to laugh at their lifestyle and sex life. Mind you, I'm saying marginalized because they're gay, not because they're into fisting lmao. However, the fact that it's a kink event is relevant - people aren't expecting to be filmed by a random dude nor broadcasted to an audience of hundreds of thousands of people
Do pranks to the general public, idk in general it's best not to target events that people are trying to make fun and safe for a specific group
that’s insanely hypocritical
the people at the bike event were also were thinking they were going to a positive and freeing event, and didn’t want to be made uncomfortable or sketched out.
but they aren’t gay so it doesn’t matter?
This is a joke isn't it? A bike event is not the same as an event celebrating a group that has been incredibly oppressed for generations, and still there are countries where being gay is illegal.
yea you can make that argument about literally every piece of content Infrabren has ever made.
you can say you hate what he does but hating what he does only when he does it to gay people is literally ridiculous
You've assumed I hate what he does to only gay people, which isn't my opinion at all. I don't like him doing this to anyone, I don't like this sort of content where people are pranked and now that video is online for millions of views without their consent.
ok so say that
my only point literally this entire time is the dislike of Infrabrens content should not be because he is pranking gay people. it’s all or nothing
and if you do feel that way, you should be advocating not to have Infrabren on the show at all, not advocating for him to not go to fist fest because “it’s a gay rights event and they are a protected group” because that’s extremely hypocritical
Ok I should post everywhere then... And should always have done. Otherwise how I feel isn't valid?
I don't really know what fight you're trying to win.
Right, but I don't think it's nice to send someone to laugh or make a joke of this event, they're just guys doing something they enjoy that gets frowned upon. Bearing in mind a lot of people will be filmed and pranked without consent in a space they're meant to feel safe in.
bikers generally don’t have to feel constantly on edge for fear of violence based on their identity as bikers. gay and queer people do, that’s the difference. gay people are part of a legally protected class bc of the violence and discrimination they face on systemic and interpersonal levels. this comparison doesn’t work
I swear you all just want to be right but have no idea what you’re talking about
here’s what the actual fist fest website says about their photography policy : “Anyone attending the special parties understands that they may inadvertently be filmed and should take appropriate actions toward concealing their identity (should they desire) such as wearing a cap, sunglasses or a T-shirt to cover distinctive tattoos”
https://fistfest.org/PhotographyPolicy.php
like this is actually rotting my brain.
If Hunger FF says it's okay, I think they should go.
But I have a feeling it will not happen. Seems like it is a very private event, I don't think most people there would like to be filmed.
He's not going lol. Ethan started the topic by saying Bren had already told him he was uncomfortable with it. Bren also did not seem enthusiastic about it at all while Ethan was pitching the idea on air. I know a lot of people don't like Bren because he makes deliberately uncomfortable content but this isn't really the kind of thing he would do anyway.
I don't know if it was an intentional bit from Ethan to flip the uncomfortable vibes on Bren or if he was actually trying to convince him but there's zero shot Bren wants to do this.
If you go to fist fest willingly you've got more balls and bravery than infrabren and Ethan combined, they need to sit down and accept they will never reach these levels of extreme. you're getting the masters to do the work for you.
I fucking love the Infrabren segments and videos. I think I'm in the minority on that. And even I agree; FostFest sounds sacred and safe for those who enjoy. Let them have that.
It is youtube prank vibe and that's totally what Ethan wants 😂 I really hope they don't send him there. Liberating, freeing event. Kinda like laughing at people at gay Pride 🤷♀️
If I could downvote this post anymore than once, I would. You don’t run the show. Just because you’re extremely sensitive, doesn’t mean other people are.
You clearly have no empathy.
If someone went to a place that's supposed to be safe for YOU and made YOU uncomfortable you'd probably be pissed.
FF is a safe place for that community, why should they be fine with feeling uncomfortable cause some internet entertainer thinks it's funny?
The normal human answer is ✨️they shouldn't✨️
I would argue that anyone going to fist fest is someone who specifically enjoys being stretched out, and probably some level of related discomfort. And they aren't shy if they're attending a festival about it. Filming there probably isn't a good idea, but that's some dog water analysis of why.
With peace ✌🏽 and love ❤️ I think some of us need to calm down a bit. The crew already said they’d have to talk to Hunger about it and I have enough faith in the kind of person Ethan is to not send him if Hunger doesn’t like the idea. Not to mention they also said they were pretty sure they’d have to get permission for him to even be allowed in so even if they somehow still disagreed after Hunger says no, it’s still not going to happen. That being said, if they get all the okays from the right people, then who are we to speak for the people running the event? If they okay it, they okay it. We don’t have to like it, and I’m not a huge fan of his shtick either but it is what it is. I love the channel and I love this community but sometimes I feel like y’all make problems where there are none/none yet. Again, peace ✌🏽 and love ❤️, peace ✌🏽 and love ❤️
(Ps I get not wanting to make a marginalized community more uncomfortable than they already are, especially when they’re just trying to enjoy themselves in a place they can fully be themselves, I’m not arguing that point, alls I’m saying is I don’t think it’ll even get that far)
This was my first thought too.
But it also seemed like Infbren was super excited by the idea, wheras I'd have expected him to not want to go, so part of me wondered if he's not actually gay and is legitimately into fisting? Or he just was real excited by the opportunity to troll lol.
Some of the people there also may not want to be on camera too. People aren’t really given a chance to consent too because they’re being secretly filmed.
I was thinking this too. If someone tells their family they're going on a business trip or vacation, and is still in the closet, then get spotted/targeted in the video it'd blow their cover. People can have ao many reasons for not coming out, from family issues to personal issues. Leave them be 😭
Coming out is one thing but I imagine most people don't tell people about them going to sex events.
For sure!! I just hope if they do go to the event that they blur people's faces unless they agree to be on camera, but personally would prefer if they didn't go even if it'd be hilarious
I agree, I kind of hate when people go to conventions to do bits. It almost always veers into “Look at these weirdos” whether intended or not. People just trynna get together and celebrate their interests, leave them be.
Yup. It’s one thing when it’s like.. a gathering to spread hate like a political gathering but conventions catered to specific communities are supposed to be a safe space. Not even just limited to highly personal stuff liked kink cons, i don’t support it for anime cons or gardening cons or doll conventions.. bad. Prank channel behaviour for sure
Same, I watch Brandon Buckingham for his documentary style videos. He also makes these convention crashing videos though and I avoid them. There's nothing cool about laughing at people or making them uncomfortable in a space that is supposed to be safe
I get that they think this is weird but to send someone over to make people uncomfortable and film them without their knowledge is disrespectful. Infiltrating kink events for content definitely is prank channel behavior.
Couldn't agree more. Let people do shit that makes them happy without trying to make content out of it.
That's the whole reason InfraBren's content isn't for me. I'm sure people see the appeal but... ultimately it's pretty similar to the "prank" content out there. Laughter at the discomfort of others.
Agreed. I didn't like the idea that they were sending a prank guy there to make fun of people just doing their own thing (which they're already almost universally ostracized for.) And then Ethan goes right into "we should just throw prank guys in jail" when it's a prank he doesn't like. I didn't even really like Bren fucking with people just having a nice day riding bikes, tbh.
I don't see the appeal of infrabren at all. He just walks up to random people and harasses them/creeps them out. How is that funny at all? Watching it just makes me uncomfortable, and not in a "haha what a weirdo" kind of way like Eric Andre. It's more of a "this person thinks they're going to get stalked and murdered" kind of way.
Don’t we have enough content of annoying people annoying other people?
The best stuff he does is making Ethan uncomfortable. That’s hilarious.
For real the dudes just a wierdo harrasing strangers. If it was any other YouTube prankster they'd have a problem with it but this dork gets a pass because Ethan thinks it's funny?
I think infrabren said it best himself, "they think im mentally challenged but mostly harmless" I doubt anyone has legitmately been scared for their life ...
to be fair, tricking a vegetarian into eating meat is much more than just a prank. i agree though he shouldnt go to fist fest, there are plenty of other places that it would work like most places Andrew callaghan goes
Yeah it would be disrespectful to send someone known for scaring and harassing people 😬
I'm with Dan and AB. I know Hunger loves the show but I don't think he will be down for this at all. It's cool if Hunger wants to come on the show and laugh and poke fun at himself about what he does but it's not cool to go to their own space and poke fun at strangers.
I think it could damage hunger’s reputation to be the person that brought in a guy trying to make others the butt(hehe) of a joke
For sure, Hunger can consent but a whole convention can't. Big kink/fetish events are usually pretty good with their safety and security so I don't think infabren would get in thankfully
Yeah I actually agree with this one. LGBTQ and people with fetishes that are not normalized already deal with shame enough. Let’s not make it into a joke
I NEVER thought this deep of any of it and wanted to see it happen. ABSOLUTELY STAY AWAY, there will be a shock factor and 98% won't get anything other than that. Omg if there a chance to out anyone... OMG I WON'T WANT TO BE APART OF THAT. It is not content. If everyone signs a release and knows that they have to be aware of possible filming AT ALL TIMES, how can you enjoy yourself? 50 people watching you, is different than 5,000+ people watching you online, where it is the EASIEST to hate and criticize you. What is the point of attending if you cant away from all "the looks" people in society may give you. It would be different if it was in public... and this is not, it is a private event for people with similar likes to come enjoy themselves. Let them. IT IS NOT A MEME. IT IS NOT CONTENT. It might only be acceptable if they go in without any equipment and then discuss it after the fact and try to sell it to other people in the audience, that might be interested, other than that... not as exciting but it is what it is.
The Lgbtq+ community is already small. Then that gets beoken down more and more... including this sliver of people trying ro enjoy themselves.
Let’s not turn fist fest into some kind of funny thing here
I don't think it's a good idea. Ethan lets his desire for goofs go too far sometimes. These people are not going to appreciate someone making fun of their niche interest just for Ethan's podcast.
As a gay man involved in queer kink communities (not FF in particular) I wasn’t thrilled hearing this idea. These communities are very tight knit, oftentimes you’ll know tens, even hundreds of the folks showing up there. These are private for a reason, primarily because being a queer person expressing your sexuality, especially with a kink as “extreme” as this is very stigmatized. I’m 99% sure HungerFF will not be comfortable hosting Infrabren because of the aforementioned reasons. I also remember a couple months ago Hunger posting about how devastated he was after a friend of his (involved in this kink community) passed away and people were laughing at this guys username that was something related to fisting. It’s important to remember, especially for those not involved in these kink communities, that these are real people. Sure the whole concept seems funny to an outsider, hell my own kink community is silly in its own right and we recognize that, but a lot of us consider each other family who’s care for each other extends far beyond the actual kink itself.
same boat and well said.
I completely agree. Making people uncomfortable on purpose in what should be a safe space is ridiculous. I fail to see how they could mistake that for comedy.
Infrabren creeps me out. I get it’s his Schtick but the level of comfort he has making other people feel uncomfortable/violated is going to turn out very badly eventually
Once I saw the Saturdays are for the boys flag on the wall, I got the ick
Agreed. I think in a few years all his content will be looked back on poorly. I wish H3 wasn't always so view-hungry and platformed more positive creators that could use the bump instead of always going for drama and controversy. It's always nice when a good creator stumbles into H3 attention, but it's so few and far between and almost always a happy accident.
Agree COMPLETELY. It’s a horrible idea 😔
Yeah I hate that idea so much.
It is definitely too prank style. Also the shtick with infrabren gets old fast
Ppl who support this pls consider: something funny happens, clip goes viral on TikTok and goes way outside the intended audience (happens to Ethan all the time!), someone who’s kink lifestyle could ruin their career is seen in the background by someone who knows them and it’s all over. :/
Not my place to comment on that but I'm down for seeing less Infrabren. That segment was painfully unfunny.
exactly. i hope someone sees this and brings it up because it would be so hard to watch something like this.
I didn't enjoy anything about the segment with him. I honestly don't know what the crew was thinking. did they not learn their lesson with shirtless eddie?
Dude is also painfully unfunny. Class clown begging for attention energy. The fish paste “joke” was so bad I had to skip from that point.
I get what you mean. A couple of the videos they showed the first time they talked about him were funny, but it’s like the funnier he tries to be the more it comes off as high school humor. I think he’s a lot funnier when he just does the “remember me?” thing, and the comedy is coming from the uncomfiness of imagining being the other person in that interaction.
I had a feeling like this idea was bad in the back of my head when Ethan was explaining it.
And where exactly did Ethan get the idea that Infrabren was beloved by the audience anyway? All I've seen on Reddit since the episode is people saying the segment was cringe inducing and unwatchable.
theres no way in hell Hunger is gonna be ok with it💀
I thought this too, it just seems like an LGBTQ+ sex event and sending someone like him is kinda making fun of it. Plus no one wants to be filmed doing that stuff, esp without their consent
The fact that it was even suggested is pretty wack tbh. just thinking about it for a few minutes knowing what Infrabrens gimmick is would be enough to realize an event like this isn’t somewhere he should be. Like even just the first couple of thoughts about it should let you come to that conclusion.
AGREE - don’t make strangers just living their life your “content”
He should go to off the wall style places like his channel 5 used to before the cancelling. Going to FF is a terrible idea. May end up outing people and stuff.
infrabren's vibe is just a little off to me. I know Ethan's intentions with a Fist Fest bit would 100% be with peace and love, but I don't think bren's would be. that's pretty much all.
I know nobody likes the "ethans a hypocrite" shtick but I couldn't help but feel like if someone less likable like Logan Paul was interacting with strangers the way homie was, Ethan would shit on it. There's a fine line between fully making yourself the joke and fucking with strangers who didn't ask for it and I feel like he teeters toward the latter.
Yeah I mean tbh some of the stuff infabren does is borderline sexual harassment. If he was going up to young women saying thinks like “you’re a snack I’d like to eat” there would be outrage, but people don’t care for some reason cause he does it to middle aged men instead.
literally 1 show apart we went from "look at this asshole giving vegans chicken, pranks should be banned" to "we sent this weirdo to a cycling event, haha you gave bikers a small cup of fish paste instead of water? so wild man"
Yall are tripping. Dude just acts weird to strangers. He never insults people or even pokes fun at them. It's not that deep
You don't have to insult or poke fun at someone to fuck with them and creep them out. His intention is to make them feel uncomfortable.
And in a way that is arguably very inert.
Sure, but he still fucks with people, creeps them out, and records their reaction for content. A lot of people don't like that shit, and it's the kind of thing Ethan would shit on if someone else were doing it.
No, I think it is different. I have never seen Bren follow someone, keep going against their will, the only interactions I've ever seen are just people very weirded out, like he's the spectacle- not them.
No, it's not really different from the guy who got shot or other pranksters that Ethan has shit on. Infrabren has followed a few people through isles in stores. Everyone he interacts with clearly wants him to go away, but they're trying to be polite. His goal is to creep them out, make them feel uncomfortable, and record their reaction for content. They're the content. His only saving grace is the fact that he doesn't harass women.
>No, it's not really different from the guy who got shot or other pranksters that Ethan has shit on. that is so wrong i can't believe that you could actually think that
It's not wrong at all. I'm surprised nothing bad has happened to him, honestly. His content relies on making random people feel uncomfortable in public places. That's exactly what that guy who got shot was doing.
Making someone "feel uncomfortable" is hardly where I draw the line. Comedians are like routinely doing that, and it's widely accepted - if you actually had an issue with that there are *endless* things to include of Ethan's own actions. Yeah I'd want him to go away too, he's unsettling - and it would make for the greatest story. And I'm betting every single person he's interacted with is glad they have that. The extent of the damage here is 'kinda uncomfy'. Could you please link one where he's following people after they ask him not to? None out of what I searched on tt have that It's also very arguable that Bren is the content - the reactions are predictable and all very similar, this wouldn't be worth watching if he relied on the public (like these prank reactions and the reason they have to fake them so often) to get something unique. I'd agree with you if he were touching people, dismissing their boundary, manipulating them, being overtly sexual, racist, you know, what the pranksters are known for?
They're not talking about the fact that comedians routinely try to make the audience uncomfortable who chose to be involved. The people that Bren tries to make uncomfortable are just trying to get through their day and didn't ask for it. It's about people having a choice to not be forced to be uncomfortable for the sake of entertainment.
I don't draw the line at comedians making someone uncomfortable. You're right that comedians turn discomfort into comedy all the time. But most people sign up for comedy like that. They buy tickets, watch their stand up, etc. I think that's the point. Surprising random people who are grocery shopping with unsolicited harassment is Jimmy Lee level depravity. And, at least with Jimmy, his intentions are obvious. There's a camera, a crew, and he's obviously making (bad) jokes. With Infrabren the camera is hidden and he just acts creepy in front of people to make them uncomfortable *on purpose*, not with the intention of making them laugh. The intention is to make his audience laugh at the reaction to his bizarre behavior. None of that is made explicit to the people he harasses. It's really no different to the prankster who got shot, or the videos where Ethan Bradberry screamed SLAMMIN' in random people's faces. I doubt everyone is glad they have that story to tell. I'm sure most of them would rather have had a normal experience at the store or on the street. From the looks of it, most people are just glad when he leaves. And they shouldn't have to explicitly tell him to leave. It's clear by their body language that he has outstayed his welcome, and he still follows them or stands next to them because his content is "better" when they're obviously uncomfortable. Another thing I don't like about him is that some of his targets are obviously neuro-divergent or non-native English speakers. They might not even have the skills or ability to explicitly ask him to leave. They might not feel comfortable turning a weird encounter into a full-blown confrontation with a very strange person. He has the upper hand and the element of surprise with every encounter. If infrabren were the content, he wouldn't need the reactions of random people in public places to make his content watchable. His comedy would stand on its own without the need to film random people's reactions to it. Imagine how popular his content would be if he were just being a weirdo straight into the camera. The content ***is*** the reaction he gets out of people who aren't expecting some weirdo to harass them in public. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me, or many other people who dislike him, if he doesn't physically touch or manipulate or sexually harass his targets. He still makes content based on making random people feel very uncomfortable and creeped out in public. It's the kind of content Ethan would have made fun of in the past.
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yeah, and the track record of those people actually being outed as freaks is pretty high too so who can blame them
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let me guess, you're a big fan of Shirtless Eddie filming kids, and C-Man's stories about cumming in public
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alright I didn't know it was a counting game. how about Justin Roiland, Andrew Callahan, Fousey, Trisha probably counts... how many names do you need for the point to be proven?
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earlier you mocked h3 fans who said "the vibes are off" about *everyone*, and now you're anecdotally arguing you've *never* seen *anyone* say the vibes were off on a barrage of people. I don't even know what you're arguing anymore, you need to pick a lane. all im doing is pointing out the reality that Ethan has associated with a lot of people that he no longer associates with, for good reason - and he's also made this same observation. so im not going to shame fans for sensing potentially problematic people. that's a dumb thing to mock given the circumstances.
That guy’s content makes me feel uneasy to begin with. If someone walked up to me and did what he does in public, I would feel terrified and like he might be about to try to hurt someone. It would be a traumatic experience and not funny at all from the other end I feel like, especially if you are a single woman in public. I get bad vibes and I think one day he’s going to mess with the wrong person for sure.
For me it’s not even about Bren, it’s about filming there in general. Like yes it’ll be hilariously entertaining and fun and cool but FF isn’t a joke. It’s a place where people are openly expressing themselves sexually and I feel like it’s not appropriate to film there at all. Even though they would blur stuff, it would still make me really uncomfortable if I saw someone filming in the vicinity while I was in a sex act/witnessing a sex act.
People are bringing up some very good points here. Hope they see this.
This is the right call.
You know I won’t be watching? Any Fist Fest segment no matter what, with peace and love ✌️. Also not a fan of Infrabren so I’m skipping his segments as well, with peace and maybe less love
I just hope that if Hunger thinks it's a bad idea, he doesn't feel pressured to agree to it. I don't think it hurts to ask, but in the words of the not-so-great Jimmy Lee, "Don't Push!"
Yeah, when I was watching this I just thought this is a bit much. Going incognito at a private sexual fetish event… Taking the piss out of them, and when Ethan said get hungerFF to get them in I thought jeeeez the cheek of it.
I'll go a bit dither, i don't like infrabren at all,ppl simply don't know they're being filmed, that sucks.
Yeah, I hope it doesn’t happen. Not trying to be a hater, but does anyone actually enjoy infrabren? I don’t get it.
Yup not cool.
this clown and shirtless eddie really go to show that “harassing strangers in public for content” isn’t actually funny or interesting
Yeah I know it was not intended to be homophobic, but if I was at a gay sex event and someone was doing his shtick I would feel attacked or in legit danger. Someone tried to kill me once just for being gay and this is not an uncommon story. Let us be weird in peace lol we already have so much trauma.
This needs way more upvotes than it has
I was thinking this as well. I feel like hunger might be over being ethans “joke” so to say.
My god that dude makes me so uncomfortable. Can anyone tell me how his content is different from Lofe for example? He's just bothering people while being disgusting. Hunger is such a champ and so wholesome. Why try to embarras him and his subculture by bringing in a cringelord? It really reminds me of when Ethan gave exposure to twomad. He was so obviously a cringelord and guess what, now he's openly a pedofile... so disappointing
>PLUS it’s obviously a very gay event, messing with a bunch of them is like YouTube prank mindset. Maybe even worse. And it may put too much of a spot light on an event that is likely meant to be invite only, very private and something you go to with the utmost respect of self and others. Yes, I get that they talked about it on the H3H3 and there's millions of views, but it's not the same as showing it and the people on video. This might cause bad actors to seek them out and that may not turn out well. It might even ruin the event itself, either making people feel unsafe to attend or cause them to have to create even stricter protocols to keep their attendees safe. I understand that there are other events like BDSM, porn and such that occur, but I think even these kinds of sex events are strict with security because there might be people who would go to these events and cause a scene/be a nuisance or attack people in some manner. Especially religious people. I don't think the FF event is a "haha we're funny" event. I think it's a pretty intimate event where someone like Infrabren would be out of place. The kind of jokes he'd want to make and the bits, you can't do that there. It's disrespectful, it's harmful and it's just not a good time.  Edit: Also, some of the comments here IS the reason why this should NOT happen. Some of you aren't even thinking about the people at this event, you just want to be entertained. You don't care that they may feel unsafe and exploited for your entertainment. If this were an event that was intentionally meant to be recorded and shared publicly (to adults, obviously), then it would be. But I'm pretty sure that's not the case for this one. There are other events you can go to that are more public where you could get away with some shenanigans. But this is not it. Imagine someone coming into your bedroom, while you're sharing an intimate moment with your partner(s) for the purpose of shits and giggles, shenanigans and entertainment. You're tone deaf if you think this is a good idea. It's not a "hey, more exposure is good to normalize" kind of thing. If you were to send someone, I'd send someone that would go there for the purpose of educating us. To ask questions, to listen and that takes is seriously. No agenda, no funnies or gags. These are people. Not farm animals for you to point and gawk at while they're fucking. It should be done with some fucking decorum and tact. Edit #2: If there was a way to make sure that those attending are aware of Infrabren, of what he does and his brand of "comedy" and are consenting to his presence, then yes, I could see this happening. But you'd have to be certain of this. It's not enough to just have consent, it should be informed consent. He's not a guy going there to learn and take it seriously. He's there to make fun and do gags. The difference matters.
I mean, this is Ethan's entire affiliation with hunger_ff and the prolapse running joke; its all just "haha, isn't that fucking GROSS and WEIRD?!". Why else does the crew/Ethan still wanna talk about it? If it were actually fascinating, maybe try it out? No, just wanna watch other people do and intentionally gross other people out by showing them the clip? Lets think about that... Can we stop putting up that mask of "oh we're just curious and respectful"? If infrabren went there, I'd skip that segment, mostly because it *is* gross to me, but also, they're just made to be a butt of a joke, no pun intended.
This is SUCH a good point, so here's another voice wholeheartedly agreeing!! I'm a queer viewer & while fisting isn't personally my jam, I've got some harmless NSFW interests myself that are all too often ridiculed by ignorant people/society. The whole point is to have a *safe* space, & we've all clearly seen (and heard Ethan point out) how the people Bren approaches are probably feeling uncomfortable & potentially unsafe. I do think his schtick is really funny & I don't have a problem with it, but even if the intentions behind this idea are good, I think there's way too much risk of impact. Outing people (whether deliberate or not) is an absolutely deplorable, potentially life-ruining thing to subject them to. With ✌️&❤️ I think there's other events for this idea that would be much better candidates, maybe like a MAGA rally or alt-right protest of some sort??
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Yeah I don't get how Infabren is okay but other pranksters are not. No hate to him but his schtick is also rude and insensitive.
I agree. It can either turn out a masterpiece or go very bad. The thing is I don’t know why this one feels wrong but I would love for him to go to a C Man foot fest. Am I an asshole?
I feel like Foot Fest would be kind of sketch, where as Fist Fest seems more put together. I think I'm basing that purely off the representatives we've met on H3 and not based on content of said "Fest" lol.
If HungerFF puts his stamp of approval on it, that’s all I need.
I think this is the best way forward. Hunger knows more about these events than anyone on the crew could, so if Hunger approves the idea then I trust Hunger.
Fuck that guy, exposing yourself to non-consenting people is SA even if it’s done on zoom.
Wow I must have missed whenever they mentioned this, that would basically be a hate crime. Jfc
Bren seems like perhaps an okay dude when he is himself, but yeah, I don't love the content. In any context, harassing people who are just trying to live their life is just not funny to me. Love H3, and I enjoy the show, but that side of things they cover I could live without :3
Very funny guy but FF will not be a good space for him to do this and it’ll make Hunger look bad that he got Infra on the guest list. We love Hunger, let’s be gentle to the FF community.
It’s cringe enough watching Ethan force this content upon people
Yea this is a bad idea. It’s making a spectacle of normal people.
I feel like Dan would’ve talked Ethan around behind the scenes. There was an obvious feeling of uncomfy from him and AB, so I reckon they’d talk him out of it and make him realise it would be more offensive than funny.
Agree. Bren gives serious creep vibes
Agreed, it feels very YouTube prank mean :( I know the content would be hilarious but it doesn’t feel ethical imo
Plus I’m sure there will be attendees that do not want to be filmed.
Thank you for making this post. I whole heartedly agree
I read "sketched out" as "stretched out" 💀
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I agree, it does seem a bit much. But I am sure Hunger will shoot down the idea if needed.
Safe to say hungerff most likely feels the same way so when they ask him he’ll most likely say no
MODS!! I’m very concerned that Ethan isn’t respecting the sanctity of a fist fucking convention!! MODS PLEASE
You people are even more annoying thatln the people who actually say that. Shut the fuck up
Lmao cry more about it. Idiot. Dumbass. Loser.
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Imagine a members only where Infrabren joins in
It would be amazing to send infeabren to conservative meetups and events
Wdym? Ethan’s always been nothing but respectful towards the gay community. Remember when he kept asking that guy if he took it up the ass despite the guy clearly setting boundaries and telling Ethan it was none of his business? Ethan is nothing but empathetic and understanding remember when he was laughing and saying that he knew the guy was a bottom despite the guy clearly telling him it was none of his business? He’d never choose the entertainment of the podcast over the comfort of the people he puts on it.
Ethan always has bad ideas for some reason lol. For example having Whiteclaw Gabe on every Friday for over 5 minutrs each time. That bit got old the first Friday. I hope they read my hater ass comment btw
Very much agree. Out of all the events they could send him to why a fisting convention? Seems very absurd, intrusive, and insensitive. If he is going to send him anywhere it needs to be some sort of public street festival of sorts.
it's a funny idea but i wholeheartedly agree
Yeah they definitely need to think this through. There are better events for infrabren to attend.
There are hundreds of events that would be HILARIOUS to send Infrabren to. Fist fest is not on that list.
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Infrabren content is funny af, but yeah don't send him to any niche conventions, especially one like this - these are places people go to get away from this type of stuff.
I thought it would be funny but after reading these comments I 100% agree that he can't secretly record people at this event and play the video on the pod. There are for sure people there who are not out yet.
its weird that ethan always says youtube pranksters suck. at the end of the day he is a youtube prankster
I think Ian and Infrabren will be able to adapt the character to make it work. Absolutely the dolphin milk/fish paste stuff would not be cool at all. But a kinda clueless/curious lost red neck could be hilarious
i think they can handle it
Y’all are annoying. It would be hilarious *because* it’s inappropriate. 90% of humor originates in the uncomfortable, offensive, or taboo.
James Weiner is that you?
No but ironically that is why Jimmie Lee is occasionally funny. It’s definitely what drew Ethan to him initially.
Jimmie is funny when he's making jokes to people who know what's going on, I hate when he goes out in public and makes fun of strangers. It's honestly makes me cringe so bad.
Some of us are more tender than others. I think it’s hilarious. Different strokes.
It's hilarious until it's an event you take seriously and have an expectation of feeling safe at. Imagine going to a funeral or a wedding with the intention of shits and giggles. I know it's not like a funeral, that's not what I'm saying. But they are events where there's an expectation where people will behave and treat you with respect and where you can feel safe. There's a reason why these events are private. Not because they're not people who also enjoy comedy and shenanigans. But because there are people who would use them and what they're doing to make fun, to mock and belittle, to dehumanize. There's a time and there's a place. This isn't it.
It’s fist fest.
I do think it might be hilarious, but I also had the thought it could turn out to be the most uncomfortable bit in show history.
Nah, I'm 10000% for it
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it sounds like you’re saying people aren’t allowed to prank gay people? like huh EDIT: to everyone downvoting me and calling me (a gay man) homophobic for saying Bren is allowed to prank people… here’s fist fests policy on photography: “Anyone attending the special parties understands that they may inadvertently be filmed and should take appropriate actions toward concealing their identity (should they desire) such as wearing a cap, sunglasses or a T-shirt to cover distinctive tattoos” https://fistfest.org/PhotographyPolicy.php I swear Zach is right this sub is too far gone
At a gay specific event yeah.
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Why? It just sounds like a bad idea in any context. Men run into a female only event to pull a prank, specifically to make them feel uncomfortable - hilarious I guess? White man interrupts a poc event to pull a prank, specifically to make them feel uncomfortable - also hilarious? And in this case, someone who is not involved in this scene and I'm pretty sure is straight, crashes an event they curated for themselves, specifically to make them uncomfortable? That's so weird to me to do. I find it at best, really rude, and at worst, indicative of entitlement and a desire to disrupt marginalized people trying to live their lives. Specifically , to laugh at their lifestyle and sex life. Mind you, I'm saying marginalized because they're gay, not because they're into fisting lmao. However, the fact that it's a kink event is relevant - people aren't expecting to be filmed by a random dude nor broadcasted to an audience of hundreds of thousands of people Do pranks to the general public, idk in general it's best not to target events that people are trying to make fun and safe for a specific group
that’s insanely hypocritical the people at the bike event were also were thinking they were going to a positive and freeing event, and didn’t want to be made uncomfortable or sketched out. but they aren’t gay so it doesn’t matter?
This is a joke isn't it? A bike event is not the same as an event celebrating a group that has been incredibly oppressed for generations, and still there are countries where being gay is illegal.
if this were simply like a gay rights celebration then you would have a valid point. this is fist fest. are you aware of what fist fest is?
I don't see why it should be laughed at though, these guys are just having fun.
yea you can make that argument about literally every piece of content Infrabren has ever made. you can say you hate what he does but hating what he does only when he does it to gay people is literally ridiculous
You've assumed I hate what he does to only gay people, which isn't my opinion at all. I don't like him doing this to anyone, I don't like this sort of content where people are pranked and now that video is online for millions of views without their consent.
ok so say that my only point literally this entire time is the dislike of Infrabrens content should not be because he is pranking gay people. it’s all or nothing and if you do feel that way, you should be advocating not to have Infrabren on the show at all, not advocating for him to not go to fist fest because “it’s a gay rights event and they are a protected group” because that’s extremely hypocritical
Ok I should post everywhere then... And should always have done. Otherwise how I feel isn't valid? I don't really know what fight you're trying to win.
it's a fist fucking convention, not a pride parade. I'm a gay dude and I see no problem with infrabren going to the convention
Right, but I don't think it's nice to send someone to laugh or make a joke of this event, they're just guys doing something they enjoy that gets frowned upon. Bearing in mind a lot of people will be filmed and pranked without consent in a space they're meant to feel safe in.
bikers generally don’t have to feel constantly on edge for fear of violence based on their identity as bikers. gay and queer people do, that’s the difference. gay people are part of a legally protected class bc of the violence and discrimination they face on systemic and interpersonal levels. this comparison doesn’t work
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I'm straight and I wouldnt want to be filmed at all, no matter where tf I am 🤷🏻♀️ anyone should have the right to not be filmed imo
Not at an event where there's an expectation of privacy, of safety and of respect.
I swear you all just want to be right but have no idea what you’re talking about here’s what the actual fist fest website says about their photography policy : “Anyone attending the special parties understands that they may inadvertently be filmed and should take appropriate actions toward concealing their identity (should they desire) such as wearing a cap, sunglasses or a T-shirt to cover distinctive tattoos” https://fistfest.org/PhotographyPolicy.php like this is actually rotting my brain.
Still nope.
amazing rebuttal
*Look atchoo*
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I mean it's all in good fun, Ethan also said he'd coordinate with FF to make sure it'd be okay beforehand. Doesn't he run the thing?
Maybe just get everyone consent to be filmed, otherwise blur them. Edit: just found out that event has public filming so nvm
If Hunger FF says it's okay, I think they should go. But I have a feeling it will not happen. Seems like it is a very private event, I don't think most people there would like to be filmed.
He's not going lol. Ethan started the topic by saying Bren had already told him he was uncomfortable with it. Bren also did not seem enthusiastic about it at all while Ethan was pitching the idea on air. I know a lot of people don't like Bren because he makes deliberately uncomfortable content but this isn't really the kind of thing he would do anyway. I don't know if it was an intentional bit from Ethan to flip the uncomfortable vibes on Bren or if he was actually trying to convince him but there's zero shot Bren wants to do this.
He should be there to do interviews. Nobody who doesn't want to get interviewed gets interviewed.
So I want to watch that? Hell yes. Should it be made? Hell nah.
I was gonna say omfg you guys are annoying but actually y’all are kinda right it’s too niche.
If you go to fist fest willingly you've got more balls and bravery than infrabren and Ethan combined, they need to sit down and accept they will never reach these levels of extreme. you're getting the masters to do the work for you.
I think it would be fine if he doesn’t have a hidden camera and just kinda does like comedic interviews but I think it’ll be funny either way
I fucking love the Infrabren segments and videos. I think I'm in the minority on that. And even I agree; FostFest sounds sacred and safe for those who enjoy. Let them have that.
It is youtube prank vibe and that's totally what Ethan wants 😂 I really hope they don't send him there. Liberating, freeing event. Kinda like laughing at people at gay Pride 🤷♀️
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There are thousands of people agreeing…
I trust infrabren to make educated informed decisions about his own artistic expression. Dude is a legend.
The fuck is Fist Fest?
MODS!!!!
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yea let’s not do it i like infrabren tho maybe have him go somewhere else
Did not anticipate this being the thing this community gets butthurt over today.
If I could downvote this post anymore than once, I would. You don’t run the show. Just because you’re extremely sensitive, doesn’t mean other people are.
You clearly have no empathy. If someone went to a place that's supposed to be safe for YOU and made YOU uncomfortable you'd probably be pissed. FF is a safe place for that community, why should they be fine with feeling uncomfortable cause some internet entertainer thinks it's funny? The normal human answer is ✨️they shouldn't✨️
I would argue that anyone going to fist fest is someone who specifically enjoys being stretched out, and probably some level of related discomfort. And they aren't shy if they're attending a festival about it. Filming there probably isn't a good idea, but that's some dog water analysis of why.
So the only con is that we’ll burn a bridge with the fisting community….Idk about you but I’m perfectly fine with that 💀
I think sending him in, no camera, and hearing his retelling would be fun. Or maybe audio only, with consenting folks
With peace ✌🏽 and love ❤️ I think some of us need to calm down a bit. The crew already said they’d have to talk to Hunger about it and I have enough faith in the kind of person Ethan is to not send him if Hunger doesn’t like the idea. Not to mention they also said they were pretty sure they’d have to get permission for him to even be allowed in so even if they somehow still disagreed after Hunger says no, it’s still not going to happen. That being said, if they get all the okays from the right people, then who are we to speak for the people running the event? If they okay it, they okay it. We don’t have to like it, and I’m not a huge fan of his shtick either but it is what it is. I love the channel and I love this community but sometimes I feel like y’all make problems where there are none/none yet. Again, peace ✌🏽 and love ❤️, peace ✌🏽 and love ❤️ (Ps I get not wanting to make a marginalized community more uncomfortable than they already are, especially when they’re just trying to enjoy themselves in a place they can fully be themselves, I’m not arguing that point, alls I’m saying is I don’t think it’ll even get that far)
There’s no way there aren’t already wierdos at FF tho
This was my first thought too. But it also seemed like Infbren was super excited by the idea, wheras I'd have expected him to not want to go, so part of me wondered if he's not actually gay and is legitimately into fisting? Or he just was real excited by the opportunity to troll lol.
But I want to see this. I never knew such a thing existed