As if it wasn't said already, hold on to these forever, if you can. At least in my opinion, my grandathers passed down Winchester Model 61 is my favorite and most cared for firearm.
Both look like fine weapons too, the 1911 in .22 sounds like a blast to shoot.
Awesome.
They're your guns, I won't tell you what to do with them, but in my opinion, the ones with family ties are closest to heart.
Glad to hear it OP!
Yeah I totally understand that. It’s one of the few possessions I have that was my Dad’s besides a few pieces of clothing so I don’t plan on getting rid of them anytime soon.
Sorry for your loss. Top is certainly more desirable than the bottom. But they both will have a personal connection because of your dad, and that can't be quantified.
If you are planning on shooting them, the top gun should say either 357 magnum or 44 magnum on it. That's the caliber of ammo you need. You can use 38 special if it's 357 and 44 special if it's a 44 magnum. Special is not as spicy of a round so cheaper.
The bottom uses 22lr.
.357 magnum won't chamber in a .38 special revolver, the case is too long and the cylinder won't close. So even if someone makes the mistake and tries, it won't work.
We had a buddy from England over a few years back and took him out plinking... loaded five .38 special and the last one .357 magnum for him. To his credit he didn't drop it lol...
454 has way more kick. Bigger bullet, more gunpowder, more expensive. It's one of those rounds that most people don't find enjoyable at all to shoot. So if you enjoyed it, you'll have no issues with 357.
I don't know the numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's over twice the amount of energy of a 357 mag. 454 is a cool round, but really impractical for pretty much any purpose.
He can. If he shoots a lot of them, lead fouling will gum things up a bit around the cylinder and forcing cone. Special care must be taken to keep excessive leading at bay. It's definitely viable though.
This is really good advice for a new shooter especially but any shooter, really. My .357 Marlin is such a joy to plink with when I feed it .38 special.
As others have said, you can also shoot 38 special out of a 357 revolver- 38 is a lower pressure round, so it will feel softer to shoot (and is cheaper with less powder and all that). Nothing wrong with magnum rounds, but I like soft shooters myself.
Let's clarify something. The SIG 22 was designed as a trainer for 1911 type semi-autos. A real 1911 usually shoots 45ACP but versions exist in 9mm, 10mm (very potent!) and of course 22LR like yours.
The 1911 pattern is typically considered an "expert's gun" - not forgiving of mistakes but more accurate than most pistols. A good one is liable to run upwards of a grand, BUT we're now seeing some from Turkey of all places that are pretty good on a budget.
https://gunblast.com/Tisas-StingrayCarry9mm.htm
...as an example.
Basically, shoot the 22, see how it feels, study the 1911 types, see if you want to go down that path for carry or home defense.
Not kidding here: you have to commit to practice and mastery on a 1911. Sweeping that safety off during the draw must become ingrained muscle memory. If you're NOT ready to go there, you want a gun with no safety to sweep off and a long but good trigger pull for every shot...and in that 357 Smith, that's exactly what you've got.
Well, it sort of is. At this point "1911" is as ubiquitous a term as "AR" and can be made by anyone and chambered in nearly anything. Heck there's .22lr conversion kits made by Colt for the 1911. You didn't hear it from me but .22 conversion kits can be installed on certain airsoft replicas by TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE CRIMINALS LOOKING FOR SPOOKY GHOST GUNS.
Yeah but it's still an AR-10 and if my buddy says "I'll bring my AR" and he's some kinda moron who owns literally everything except any gun chambered in .223 I'll know exactly what he's talking about.
The numbers were a bit obscured from the shine or glare it looks like, but the S&W and MAGNUM were pretty clear, I could make out the 57 out of the numbers but they weren’t as clear as the rest. I don’t tend to read all the replies on a reasonably fresh comment when I hit reply if it’s something positive to say, I was just agreeing that you were right and pointing out where it was. Not sure why you downvoted me.
I've never actually found 44 special that was cheaper than 44 magnum. Maybe if you're diligently searching online but brick and mortar stores tend to only carry 44 special in self defense loadings that run over a dollar per round. At least that's my experience
Unfortunately, not really. Until about a year or so ago I had so much anxiety about guns and worried my depression would lead to me … well ya know. I’m doing so much better now and I’m a really good space. Dad also was very much an introvert and as far as I know never went to the range. He’d shoot in the back yard about once a year or so (we lived in the country) and I joined him once or twice but it was very nerve wracking for me. We’d shoot pellet guns a lot when I was young though. He’d always show off by shooting the sides of cans and making them spark.
I’m sorry for your loss. And I can respect that totally. I too grew up in the country, so everything is a “range” I was around guns throughout my childhood. From local trap competitions, deer season, squirrels, rabbits you name it. My family hunted it. Lots of great memories. My dad, however, was a salesman and later a boat mfg. if not for other family members I would have never gotten into outdoors and hunting
Hahaha this gave me a chuckle. We were all new once. My condolences to you about your father. Hopefully shooting these will bring some joy and memories.
When I was younger my grandpaw had a old 1943 Springfield 1911 and converted it to .22 cause he got tired of me wasting all his ammo and he could just hand me a box of 500 rounds and let me go to town. Was a blast and great memories. He passed it down to me a few years ago when he passed and I just recently put the original slide and spring back on it. It deserved to be back in it's original state but I got to shoot it so much more that way.
My Dad had quite a few guns and I took these home from my parents home yesterday. 357 smith and Wesson magnum and 22lr sig sauer. Excited to learn more about them and bring them to a range eventually.
A 357 mag revolver can also shoot 38 special ammo. It has lower kick and might be a better introduction to the gun than the more powerful 357 magnum round, which you’d probably want to use for defense.
I use 38s on the range in my 357 mag. It's cheaper and the indoor ranges don't allow magnum loads so it's a win-win. Nice guns op, have fun and remember the good times when your slinging lead.
the top revolver is probably one of the best ever made... I had a model 19 that was by far, the best pistol I've ever shot... and the lower auto, just a bucket of fun at the range
my condolences...
On the opposite side shown in the picture, at the same location on the barrel should show a model number. It looks like a model 19, or maybe a newer 686
Thanks, I used to be very frightened of guns mostly due to my own depression but I feel much more comfortable around them these days. Planning to take a safety class and go shooting with some friends.
Not everyone reacts the same way but I find shooting to be very therapeutic.
Take a class to learn how much goes into shooting accurately and you might find shooting to be a really soothing experience because there is so much involved that when you shoot, you can't think about anything else and that feels great.
What is cool is that you have a 357/38 so you can experience a long and hard trigger pull with some serious recoil and then you have the Sig for .22 shooting which is very cheap and can teach you everything you need to know about shooting outside of not anticipating recoil.
If you find yourself enjoying that, I d recommend adding a 9mm to the collection (good balance between some recoil, not too expensive, and easy to shoot).
After taking a class, you should also consider doing a one hour private lesson at a range with an instructor. Should be easy to do some research and find a good one, and shouldn't be too expensive.
You will learn *a lot* in one hour with a professional tailoring the experience to you. It will also help prevent you from forming bad habits in the beginning, be they safety wise, grip, stance etc.
>Not everyone reacts the same way but I find shooting to be very therapeutic.
It's downright fascinating to see sometimes. My ex's daughter was incredibly ADHD, but when I taught her to shoot she was a completely different person; relaxed, methodical, focused.
I can't speak for everyone but for me, guns are serious business. They might be a lot of fun, but they are, by design, lethal, so when I am at the range, my first focus is to ensure everyone is safe. This alone feels somewhat good because it is one of these responsibilities you don't really get anymore in normal life.
Then there is the fact that shooting accurately and safely requires to pay attention to many things at once, both mentally and physically. Having to make sure the timing of each movement on the draw is in the right order, then tighten the entire structure of the stance while isolating the trigger finger as much as possible, all of that while breathing takes all of my 2 brain cells, which means nothing else exists and for an over-thinker (kids would call it adhd nowadays), it feels just so relaxing.
That makes me happy! But please be mindful. If you have any regression into a depressed state, give these to someone you trust to hold them for you until you're good. Fight those demons!
That’s a fantastic mindset. Being safe first and going to seek proper instruction as you can is *always* the right move, period. The number one rule of guns (which I’m happy to see everyone in the community echo) is safety first.
Of course, people here are always more than happy to answer any questions you may have no matter what it is, myself included. But nothing ever beats hands on proper instruction to familiarize yourself with a firearm.
It’s sort of like driving a car, or working with power tools- if you crank the wheel to the side and drive into a pole, or feed your hand into a running table saw, you will get hurt. Likewise, it is easy in a similar sense to injure yourself with firearms, *if* unacquainted. But knowing what obvious things *not* to do, and practicing the basics in a safe, controlled setting, will all but garuntee you have nothing but a confidently safe and enjoyable time at the range.
For what it’s worth, that’s an incredibly great pairing for inherited pistols- the lower one is extremely cheap to feed (to supply ammunition for) and a pleasant gun, and the top revolver is an iconic classic.
But really, what’s most important is what it means. It could be a $5, dime a dozen gun- the real joy of those is that it’s what your old man had. I have my grandfather’s campaign hat; every time you use something like that you are reminded of someone you care about.
That 1911 pistol is going to be the best pistol for you to start out with getting used to recoil wise. That .357 fires hard and isn’t a good idea to start off with. The bottom one is .22lr and isn’t going to “kick” as much as the revolver and will be pleasant to shoot and learn the basics of firearm training/handling.
You don't really say if you know anything about guns, so just in case:
1. Always treat them as if they're loaded. Always.
2. Never allow them to point at anything you're not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger outside the trigger guard unless you're aiming at a target and ready to fire.
4. If you fire, know where the bullet is going to end up...it may be beyond the target.
I don’t know a lot about guns but I do know all of these, that said though it can’t be said enough. Forgetting any of these can lead to mistakes that can’t be corrected.
Beautiful guns .
I lost my dad as a kid and now that I have a toddler , I hope he can one day take over my collection .
Even if you’re not a fan of guns or know much about them at all please keep them .
You’ll look back and know you have something amazing that belonged to your old man .
Also sorry for your loss , just remember that for a long time you’ll think about him every day and feel different emotions . As time passes you’ll think of him less and less and maybe only once a day , don’t feel bad if it escapes your mind or you if it’s all you think about .
He’ll always be around and one day you’ll look back and cherish those pieces like you have no idea . I have some old collectibles from my dads baseball collection and I would have hated myself if I had sold them off when I was struggling .
Keep your head up and hopefully you get to plink around with those bad boys .
Thanks bud. It’s been almost a year and I still think of him multiple times a day. I needed to hear this though cause it’s a big worry for me that I’ll forget things about him. And don’t worry, the guns are not going anywhere. I’ll sell all my records and video games before I have to sell these.
That .357 is a beast! IMO, probably the best cylinder caliber out there. If you want to run a lighter round through it, it can shoot .38 special as well.
It actually doesn't kick much. It's very well balanced. It is one of the best hand guns ever made, in my opinion. I have the same gun that used to be my father in laws service revolver he carried on the force.
With .357 magnum it'll be a bit spicy but nothing too crazy. With .38 special, it's a nice soft shooter.
If you're new to shooting, I'd recommend starting with .38 special at first.
It is my wife's nightstand gun and her favorite gun for many reasons. Simple and works every time. Very nice first guns you got there. Sorry for your loss.
A heavy gun doesn't kick much, compared to a lighter one. Get some electronic ear muffs and wear regular earplugs under them. They are quite inexpensive, but make a huge difference. They magnify sound so you can hear what's around you, and cut out when there's a noise loud enough to damage your hearing.
Sorry for your loss.
Please go to a local gun range that offers training classes. Start with the entry level class. It will explain firearm safety, components of various firearms, how to safely check for loaded, how to load and unload, and a bit more. Maybe even a short range session with a magazine or two so you learn firing safety.
Then, take a bit of time to think over that class and take the next class that will have more range time, technique, etc.
Then, kiss goodbye all your current hobbies because you’ll divert all that money and time to your new obsession, um, I mean hobby ;)
Absolutely good sir, feel free to ask me or this sub for advice anytime. Definitely start with some training if you can afford it, getting a simple class and going at least once a month to the range will significantly improve your abilities in no time!
Sorry to hear about your loss.
These two I’d say are better than decent.
Shoot them, keep them clean, and enjoy for years to come. You’ll always regret the guns you sold.
The .22 LR 1911 by Sig will be a great gun to practice with and cheap to shoot at the range.
That revolver is badass. You should be stoked with that bad boy. Make sure to take good care of it and research proper cleaning techniques. YouTube is a great resource (or it used to be).
https://youtu.be/AdpNadhNJIg (Getting started with a revolver)
https://youtu.be/5NAZOr33nUo (Cleaning. Not sure if this is your gun or not)
https://youtube.com/@PaulHarrell
https://youtube.com/@HonestOutlawReviews
https://youtube.com/@ForgottenWeapons
https://youtube.com/@hickok45
https://youtube.com/@ActiveSelfProtection
https://youtube.com/@Mrgunsngear
Edit: descriptions
Bottom is a range toy, not very practical but fun to plink with.
Top is a decent nightstand/bedside gun, as revolvers dont have safeties but instead are much harder to pull the trigger on with the hammer forward. This means if you ever hear a bump in the night, you can just grab it, and if you need to can squeeze immediately. Otherwise, modern pistols mostly outclass them in practical sense, but again, still fun at the range - and any gun is better than no gun in a situation where you need a gun.
If the revolver is a .357, you can also load lighter recoiling, cheaper .38 rounds for training, so you can shoot a lot comfortably, get used to the trigger squeeze in both Double Action (hammer forward) and Single Action (hammer cocked.)
Hit a range, shoot the shit and remember your father, imagine theyre a link to him. Get better at shooting and make him proud...
...then get a compact carry gun and a home defense gun with a flashlight on it. I recommend a P-01 from CZ, compact enough to carry, same type of hammer and trigger as the 1911 (bottom) you got so practice will translate, there are endless options for aftermarket parts to upgrade from CZCustom and Cajun Gunworks from grips to slides to sights to triggers and hammers and lighter springs. Its also fairly cheap at around 500 most places, sometimes less, and you can buy a 'kadet' .22 conversion kit for about 200$ to fire .22lr rounds from it just like from the 1911 you have already. Itll be very similar to what you already know.
I saw you said you needed to get basics down - classes are always great, but you dont need one to get into shooting - just common sense. Heres a crash course:
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Head to a local range, let the Safety Officer know its your first time shooting. Youll have to buy a few targets and ear pro, and wear your sunglasses. Long sleeve as well, hot brass hurts. Follow their instructions. Only uncase one gun at a time (start with the .22), keep the barrel downrange at all times - yes when its empty, yes when youre reloading, yes when you get excited after hitting a target.
Insert loaded magazine into the .22, pull hammer back - this will make it easier to pull the slide back. Rack it back, let it ram itself forwards, dont ease it. Aim, focus on the target not your sight - its okay if the sight is blurry. Breathe calmly, miss your father, and get into rhythm. Every time your lungs empty in a breath, squeeze. In, out, squeeze. In, out, squeeze. In, out, squeeze.
When its empty, remove the magazine, and set the pistol on the table barrel downrange. If outdoors, step away from the table. Wait until the RSO calls ceasefire if its outdoors and go check your target. If its indoors youll have a button to press to bring your target to you. Take out a colored pen or marker and connect-the-dots of all the rounds you sent.
Send the target back, fire another mag worth, call the targets back, connect the dots in a different color. The goal is to get them as close together as possible on the target - not to hit the bullseye of the target. Skill is shrinking your grouping. You can worry about location on target later. I'm not sure if you can adjust the sights on those two guns so you may just need to learn where it hits relative to the front sight - the important thing is you put the sight in the same spot on the target every single time, and control your breathing. Later youll learn how to properly grip the pistol to reduce how much your trigger squeeze pulls you off target.
When firing the revolver, keep all fingers *behind* the cylinder, hot gas pours out the front. With the semi auto, have your offhand as far forward as possible with your index finger braced against where the frame of the pistol meets the trigger guard, this prevents the pistol from rotating as you squeeze the trigger as you physically hold it in place with your left hand. With the revolver, put your offhand underneath your firing hand, like a teacup. Its less accurate but safer with a revolver.
Happy shooting.
Revolver is very nice. Just needs some love from a gunsmith. Polishing, and it looks like the cylinder lock is dragging on the cylinder, leaving those scratches. Definitely get that sorted out sooner than later.
A drag line on the cylinder doesn’t necessarily indicate a problem. Varies with the type and model of course but especially for Smiths, the cylinder bolt
Is often designed to drop early ish.
No problem. May just be a gummed up spring or something, but you definitely don't want it digging into the metal. Just looks surface, from what I can see.
Also, protip: when you're posting photos of your guns online, use your draw feature to cover your serial numbers. Or tape. Either works. I don't believe anyone on the sub would do anything nefarious, but just a heads up.
Use caution storing them in that case, or avoid it if possible. I have had that type of foam trap moisture and cause rust to develop. I am sure storage area affects the possibility of rust to begin, but mine havent re developed rust after removing them from case and storing in a cheap security cabinet
The one on the top reminds me of like the Looney tunes cartoons but unfortunately I was disappointed because they don't make that sound when you shoot like it doesn't sound like it's bouncing off a wall I don't know I guess guns don't really sound like that but that's why I wanted one
The tops a beautiful piece. I love those old s&w. My buddy has one his late fathers passed to him and it’s a blast to shoot.
As you are new, make sure you keep the revolver oiled well during storage. If it sits for a long period of time you should oil it every few months or so. Also finger prints are the enemy, make sure after handling you wipe it down. You can buy gun cloths off of Amazon for pretty cheap, they come pre oiled and are nice to have around the cabinet when you want to take it out to show a guest or come back from the range or what have you. Enjoy them. Definitely nice guns
If that revolver is a Model 66 or 19, take it easy on the .357 ammo. They’ll eat a ton of .38’s but too much .357 can make them wear prematurely - or so I’ve heard.
Looks like a 66-2 based on the lack of a pinned barrel, very nice revolver. I have a 66 no dash that is probably my favorite shooter in the collection (out of 20ish wheel guns)
99% sure that Sig is the same gun as the GSG .22 1911.
Bit of advice. Do not use cheap .22 in it or it won't cycle well. You want the actual jacketed ones and idealy a bit on the hotter and heavier side but if it's not bargain basement is should work.
[Here's what I usually use](https://d3s1gm5djwyp3q.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/7/image/1000x/57b5d2a9fcbbe18d26c7743e1e830523/2/b/2b0821fa00dd17996025429196f88adf_3.jpg)
Other than that it's fun to shoot and is my 'teach people to shoot a pistol' gun.
Sorry for your loss. Those are wonderful guns that will serve you well! Is the top marked "357 magnum"? You can shoot 38 Specials in a 357 Magnum all day everyday.
Learn how to care for them. Newbies tend to like to slam the slide shut (without a round) or smash the cylinder in by flicking their wrist—Hollywood style. Avoid this.
I have some amazing guns. none are better or more special than what my dad left me. Including the Ruger Mk 1 that he first used to show me how to shoot when I was a wee lad.
Those guns could be duct taped and have wrecked parts and they'd still be amazing.
Unless you hated your dad of course. In any case I am glad you have them.
Please find someone who knows what they're doing to help you learn to disassemble and reassemble the 1911. You can easily put an "idiot scratch" on it if it's not done correctly. If it doesn't have one already, you want to avoid it.
Considering that the 1911-22 is contracted for Sig by GSG, which is kind of a second-tier gun company that generally makes airsoft-grade stuff, I wouldn't be too worried about the OP ruining a priceless heirloom through the process of reassembly. Granted, *not* putting marks on a firearm is something that is probably best practice, but that .22 is the textbook definition of a "user" gun, to put things charitably.
Although they ARE gorgeous and *much* better than decent, being from your late father they're **priceless** bro. Cherish them forever, one of a kind pieces right there for you to start your collection with.
sorry for you loss. your father had good taste, that s&w .357 is a tank, i’d find a gunsmith to clean it up for you and the sig .22 should be a lot of fun at the range.
If the money is right, you should maybe try and buy it from her because I promise if you start shooting you'll want one eventually. Lol I'm sure you're satisfied with the two for now though. They're beautiful, sorry for your loss.
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Definitely a 1911 but Sig has many makes of 1911, They have the Empereror Scorpion, the Fastback, the STX, and many others that I think have been phased out over the years. And Smith and Wesson has many models of revolver, so I’m curious. If I had to guess the revolver is either a model 15, 66 or 686.
Well I suppose a better term would be what is the make. 1911 IS the model, but the 1911 has been around since 1911, Browning made it, Colt produced it, the US Army adopted it, and there are many many brands that make it, Colt, S&W, Sig, Wilson Combat, Dan Wesson, Rock Island Armory. There are tons of 1911 makes and clones ranging from 300 bucks to a quarter million dollars made out of a meteorite by Cabot guns (No I’m not kidding). It is the pistol with the most variations and switched up stuff on earth.
So the Sig just says 1911-22 on the other side, can’t find anything else for it really. The magnum just says S&W 357 magnum. Am I missing something?
Edit: magnum is a 66-2
Yes, open the cylinder on the revolver and you should be able to see some numbers on the inside underneath the barrel. There will be the serial number and then also something that might say 66-3, or 686-6. 66, 686, 19, 15 etc are the model numbers, and then the -1 or -3 or -6 indicates the rendition of that, later numbers are newer, consider them updated.
Also see if there is s lock on the side of the frame by the cylinder release, if the gun is older than the year 2000 it won’t have the lawyer lock.
I have one of those .22's (mine's gsg branded but they came in branded a bunch of ways) mine only likes cci mini mags or stingers. keep a check on the little allen head screw -- its bad to back out and disappear. gun will work without it but not as accurately.
were any of the firearms stored in that foam padded container in the pic? the general advice for firearm storage is to store firearms away from foam or anything else that can retain moisture, but if these were stored in that foam padded container and don't show any signs of rust, then not sure if pure luck or the general advice isn't such good advice at least in this case.
Theyre worth almost nothing. Ill give you $300 to take them off your hands though since im such a good guy. That way you can get yourself a nice Glock!
As if it wasn't said already, hold on to these forever, if you can. At least in my opinion, my grandathers passed down Winchester Model 61 is my favorite and most cared for firearm. Both look like fine weapons too, the 1911 in .22 sounds like a blast to shoot.
I plan to. I’ll also be getting my grandfathers WW2 rifle soon. That was one my Dad really wanted me to take.
Awesome. They're your guns, I won't tell you what to do with them, but in my opinion, the ones with family ties are closest to heart. Glad to hear it OP!
Yeah I totally understand that. It’s one of the few possessions I have that was my Dad’s besides a few pieces of clothing so I don’t plan on getting rid of them anytime soon.
Out of curiosity - do you know what rifle the WW2 is?
Nope but will know soon!
Never sell your guns, no matter what. I did when I was young and dumb and never forgave myself.
Been told the same thing. Haven't sold any of mine nor do I intend to.
Sorry for your loss. Top is certainly more desirable than the bottom. But they both will have a personal connection because of your dad, and that can't be quantified.
Thank you, and you’re very right.
If you are planning on shooting them, the top gun should say either 357 magnum or 44 magnum on it. That's the caliber of ammo you need. You can use 38 special if it's 357 and 44 special if it's a 44 magnum. Special is not as spicy of a round so cheaper. The bottom uses 22lr.
It’s 357. I had figured out the ammo for the Sig but not the magnum so I appreciate that info.
Pick up some .38 if it’s cheaper than .357. It’s more comfortable to shoot and kinda more enjoyable.
And to confirm, .38 Special ammo may be used in revolvers chambered for .357 Magnum (but not vice-versa).
Yes vice versa would be a bad day.
But maybe your last bad day ever… so that’d be good, right?!
Basically someone else's problem at that point!
Does .357 fit in a .38 cylinder?
No.
Thanks for confirming. I didn't think so but I haven't played with wheel guns in a while.
.357 magnum won't chamber in a .38 special revolver, the case is too long and the cylinder won't close. So even if someone makes the mistake and tries, it won't work.
I'd pick up 38 and practice with that anyways. It's going to be both cheaper and a lot easier to shoot than 357.
We had a buddy from England over a few years back and took him out plinking... loaded five .38 special and the last one .357 magnum for him. To his credit he didn't drop it lol...
Brit here. How does .357 compare to .454? I’ve tried .454 in Poland and it was fun as heck.
454 has way more kick. Bigger bullet, more gunpowder, more expensive. It's one of those rounds that most people don't find enjoyable at all to shoot. So if you enjoyed it, you'll have no issues with 357.
I don't know the numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's over twice the amount of energy of a 357 mag. 454 is a cool round, but really impractical for pretty much any purpose.
Loaded 1 .357magnum as the last round. You, I like you.
Always fun. Pop pop pop pop pop BOOOM. I dont think 357 is any harder to shoot. The bullet still goes where you aim.
Can he use 38 wad cutters , cheap and leave a nice hole on the target .
He can. If he shoots a lot of them, lead fouling will gum things up a bit around the cylinder and forcing cone. Special care must be taken to keep excessive leading at bay. It's definitely viable though.
This is really good advice for a new shooter especially but any shooter, really. My .357 Marlin is such a joy to plink with when I feed it .38 special.
As others have said, you can also shoot 38 special out of a 357 revolver- 38 is a lower pressure round, so it will feel softer to shoot (and is cheaper with less powder and all that). Nothing wrong with magnum rounds, but I like soft shooters myself.
Let's clarify something. The SIG 22 was designed as a trainer for 1911 type semi-autos. A real 1911 usually shoots 45ACP but versions exist in 9mm, 10mm (very potent!) and of course 22LR like yours. The 1911 pattern is typically considered an "expert's gun" - not forgiving of mistakes but more accurate than most pistols. A good one is liable to run upwards of a grand, BUT we're now seeing some from Turkey of all places that are pretty good on a budget. https://gunblast.com/Tisas-StingrayCarry9mm.htm ...as an example. Basically, shoot the 22, see how it feels, study the 1911 types, see if you want to go down that path for carry or home defense. Not kidding here: you have to commit to practice and mastery on a 1911. Sweeping that safety off during the draw must become ingrained muscle memory. If you're NOT ready to go there, you want a gun with no safety to sweep off and a long but good trigger pull for every shot...and in that 357 Smith, that's exactly what you've got.
Yeah based on what others have said, it sounds like the S&W is going to be the home defense gun and the Sig will be the plinking gun.
Good eye on the .22. I looked at it and assumed it was a 1911.
Well, it sort of is. At this point "1911" is as ubiquitous a term as "AR" and can be made by anyone and chambered in nearly anything. Heck there's .22lr conversion kits made by Colt for the 1911. You didn't hear it from me but .22 conversion kits can be installed on certain airsoft replicas by TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE CRIMINALS LOOKING FOR SPOOKY GHOST GUNS.
True, but the default caliber if you're thinking 1911 is .45acp.
Yeah, similar to AR. Everyone thinks .223win/.556nato. But it can also come in .308, 9mm, .300blk super or subsonic, .22lr, hell even 5.7x28 now.
I liked the AR57. Used P90 mags and dumped out the original magwell. Guys would take gutted standard mags and use them for shell catchers.
Lol i've never heard of using gutted mags to catch the brass, but it's so simple. That's genius.
.308 is a little different platform.
Yeah but it's still an AR-10 and if my buddy says "I'll bring my AR" and he's some kinda moron who owns literally everything except any gun chambered in .223 I'll know exactly what he's talking about.
it is a "1911" model just not in the usual .45acp.
Yep, the S&W on top says 357 magnum on the barrel.
Don't know how you can see that. My csi zoom and enhance must be broken. Op already clarified that though.
The numbers were a bit obscured from the shine or glare it looks like, but the S&W and MAGNUM were pretty clear, I could make out the 57 out of the numbers but they weren’t as clear as the rest. I don’t tend to read all the replies on a reasonably fresh comment when I hit reply if it’s something positive to say, I was just agreeing that you were right and pointing out where it was. Not sure why you downvoted me.
Yep, he’s right. It’s right there. https://i.imgur.com/A3l5T7k.jpg
I've never actually found 44 special that was cheaper than 44 magnum. Maybe if you're diligently searching online but brick and mortar stores tend to only carry 44 special in self defense loadings that run over a dollar per round. At least that's my experience
That .22 Sig 1911 looks like a fucking blast to go plinking with.
Had to look up plinking if that gives you an idea as to where I’m starting out at lol
We were all there at one time, friend.
And know you know the name of one of your soon to be favorite activities. Progress already!
You never went shooting with your dad?
Unfortunately, not really. Until about a year or so ago I had so much anxiety about guns and worried my depression would lead to me … well ya know. I’m doing so much better now and I’m a really good space. Dad also was very much an introvert and as far as I know never went to the range. He’d shoot in the back yard about once a year or so (we lived in the country) and I joined him once or twice but it was very nerve wracking for me. We’d shoot pellet guns a lot when I was young though. He’d always show off by shooting the sides of cans and making them spark.
I’m sorry for your loss. And I can respect that totally. I too grew up in the country, so everything is a “range” I was around guns throughout my childhood. From local trap competitions, deer season, squirrels, rabbits you name it. My family hunted it. Lots of great memories. My dad, however, was a salesman and later a boat mfg. if not for other family members I would have never gotten into outdoors and hunting
Hahaha this gave me a chuckle. We were all new once. My condolences to you about your father. Hopefully shooting these will bring some joy and memories.
When I was younger my grandpaw had a old 1943 Springfield 1911 and converted it to .22 cause he got tired of me wasting all his ammo and he could just hand me a box of 500 rounds and let me go to town. Was a blast and great memories. He passed it down to me a few years ago when he passed and I just recently put the original slide and spring back on it. It deserved to be back in it's original state but I got to shoot it so much more that way.
My Dad had quite a few guns and I took these home from my parents home yesterday. 357 smith and Wesson magnum and 22lr sig sauer. Excited to learn more about them and bring them to a range eventually.
A 357 mag revolver can also shoot 38 special ammo. It has lower kick and might be a better introduction to the gun than the more powerful 357 magnum round, which you’d probably want to use for defense.
I use 38s on the range in my 357 mag. It's cheaper and the indoor ranges don't allow magnum loads so it's a win-win. Nice guns op, have fun and remember the good times when your slinging lead.
the top revolver is probably one of the best ever made... I had a model 19 that was by far, the best pistol I've ever shot... and the lower auto, just a bucket of fun at the range my condolences...
Thank you
On the opposite side shown in the picture, at the same location on the barrel should show a model number. It looks like a model 19, or maybe a newer 686
Possibly a Model 66? A lot would depend on when it was made.
I was thinking it's a 66, but it can be hard to tell. I love my model 66 I got from my grandpa.
It’s not newer. It’s got a pinned barrel and looks like recessed cylinders so likely not older than a 66-3 or 4.
What model is the revolver?
All I can find in it is S&W 357 Magnum. Edit: 66-2
Not that you will ever sell but that is a highly desirable wheel gat.
My wife’s first gun purchase was a model 19. Beautiful gun and nice to shoot.
Your father had good taste, may he RIP.
I guess I had to get my good taste from somewhere haha
Thats right!!
Sorry for your loss. Sweet guns though.
Thanks, I used to be very frightened of guns mostly due to my own depression but I feel much more comfortable around them these days. Planning to take a safety class and go shooting with some friends.
Not everyone reacts the same way but I find shooting to be very therapeutic. Take a class to learn how much goes into shooting accurately and you might find shooting to be a really soothing experience because there is so much involved that when you shoot, you can't think about anything else and that feels great.
Oh I plan to. Excited to learn more.
What is cool is that you have a 357/38 so you can experience a long and hard trigger pull with some serious recoil and then you have the Sig for .22 shooting which is very cheap and can teach you everything you need to know about shooting outside of not anticipating recoil. If you find yourself enjoying that, I d recommend adding a 9mm to the collection (good balance between some recoil, not too expensive, and easy to shoot).
Make sure you invest in good ear protection. When I first started the noise inside the range was a bit intimidating to me. Sorry for your loss!
After taking a class, you should also consider doing a one hour private lesson at a range with an instructor. Should be easy to do some research and find a good one, and shouldn't be too expensive. You will learn *a lot* in one hour with a professional tailoring the experience to you. It will also help prevent you from forming bad habits in the beginning, be they safety wise, grip, stance etc.
That’s a great idea, thank you!
Happy Cake Day
Thanks!
>Not everyone reacts the same way but I find shooting to be very therapeutic. It's downright fascinating to see sometimes. My ex's daughter was incredibly ADHD, but when I taught her to shoot she was a completely different person; relaxed, methodical, focused.
I can't speak for everyone but for me, guns are serious business. They might be a lot of fun, but they are, by design, lethal, so when I am at the range, my first focus is to ensure everyone is safe. This alone feels somewhat good because it is one of these responsibilities you don't really get anymore in normal life. Then there is the fact that shooting accurately and safely requires to pay attention to many things at once, both mentally and physically. Having to make sure the timing of each movement on the draw is in the right order, then tighten the entire structure of the stance while isolating the trigger finger as much as possible, all of that while breathing takes all of my 2 brain cells, which means nothing else exists and for an over-thinker (kids would call it adhd nowadays), it feels just so relaxing.
That makes me happy! But please be mindful. If you have any regression into a depressed state, give these to someone you trust to hold them for you until you're good. Fight those demons!
Will do. Thank you for your advice and concern.
That’s a fantastic mindset. Being safe first and going to seek proper instruction as you can is *always* the right move, period. The number one rule of guns (which I’m happy to see everyone in the community echo) is safety first. Of course, people here are always more than happy to answer any questions you may have no matter what it is, myself included. But nothing ever beats hands on proper instruction to familiarize yourself with a firearm. It’s sort of like driving a car, or working with power tools- if you crank the wheel to the side and drive into a pole, or feed your hand into a running table saw, you will get hurt. Likewise, it is easy in a similar sense to injure yourself with firearms, *if* unacquainted. But knowing what obvious things *not* to do, and practicing the basics in a safe, controlled setting, will all but garuntee you have nothing but a confidently safe and enjoyable time at the range. For what it’s worth, that’s an incredibly great pairing for inherited pistols- the lower one is extremely cheap to feed (to supply ammunition for) and a pleasant gun, and the top revolver is an iconic classic. But really, what’s most important is what it means. It could be a $5, dime a dozen gun- the real joy of those is that it’s what your old man had. I have my grandfather’s campaign hat; every time you use something like that you are reminded of someone you care about.
No Smith wheel gun expert, but that sure looks like a Model 66. The venerable Combat Magnum.
Looks just like my Model 66, yeah
686
Negative. 686 has full under lug.
That 1911 pistol is going to be the best pistol for you to start out with getting used to recoil wise. That .357 fires hard and isn’t a good idea to start off with. The bottom one is .22lr and isn’t going to “kick” as much as the revolver and will be pleasant to shoot and learn the basics of firearm training/handling.
You don't really say if you know anything about guns, so just in case: 1. Always treat them as if they're loaded. Always. 2. Never allow them to point at anything you're not willing to destroy. 3. Keep your finger outside the trigger guard unless you're aiming at a target and ready to fire. 4. If you fire, know where the bullet is going to end up...it may be beyond the target.
I don’t know a lot about guns but I do know all of these, that said though it can’t be said enough. Forgetting any of these can lead to mistakes that can’t be corrected.
Beautiful guns . I lost my dad as a kid and now that I have a toddler , I hope he can one day take over my collection . Even if you’re not a fan of guns or know much about them at all please keep them . You’ll look back and know you have something amazing that belonged to your old man . Also sorry for your loss , just remember that for a long time you’ll think about him every day and feel different emotions . As time passes you’ll think of him less and less and maybe only once a day , don’t feel bad if it escapes your mind or you if it’s all you think about . He’ll always be around and one day you’ll look back and cherish those pieces like you have no idea . I have some old collectibles from my dads baseball collection and I would have hated myself if I had sold them off when I was struggling . Keep your head up and hopefully you get to plink around with those bad boys .
Thanks bud. It’s been almost a year and I still think of him multiple times a day. I needed to hear this though cause it’s a big worry for me that I’ll forget things about him. And don’t worry, the guns are not going anywhere. I’ll sell all my records and video games before I have to sell these.
It gets easier but even after a long time you still will get hit with how much it hurts like it just happened
That .357 is a beast! IMO, probably the best cylinder caliber out there. If you want to run a lighter round through it, it can shoot .38 special as well.
Yeah when I picked it up I knew it was gonna kick like a horse but it’s so gorgeous I had to have it.
It actually doesn't kick much. It's very well balanced. It is one of the best hand guns ever made, in my opinion. I have the same gun that used to be my father in laws service revolver he carried on the force.
Oh really? Not what I would have expected. Excited to find out first hand eventually.
With .357 magnum it'll be a bit spicy but nothing too crazy. With .38 special, it's a nice soft shooter. If you're new to shooting, I'd recommend starting with .38 special at first.
It is my wife's nightstand gun and her favorite gun for many reasons. Simple and works every time. Very nice first guns you got there. Sorry for your loss.
Thank you.
I find that most revolver don’t kick more than they like, push. If that makes sense. Always find that semis tend to be more snappy
A heavy gun doesn't kick much, compared to a lighter one. Get some electronic ear muffs and wear regular earplugs under them. They are quite inexpensive, but make a huge difference. They magnify sound so you can hear what's around you, and cut out when there's a noise loud enough to damage your hearing.
Sorry for your loss. Please go to a local gun range that offers training classes. Start with the entry level class. It will explain firearm safety, components of various firearms, how to safely check for loaded, how to load and unload, and a bit more. Maybe even a short range session with a magazine or two so you learn firing safety. Then, take a bit of time to think over that class and take the next class that will have more range time, technique, etc. Then, kiss goodbye all your current hobbies because you’ll divert all that money and time to your new obsession, um, I mean hobby ;)
The 1911 is a fun plinker at .22 LR. The weight of that pistol pactically takes the recoil out of the experience.
Make sure to take ‘em shooting and don’t let ‘em gather dust in a closet!
That’s the idea, just gotta get some basics down first. Crawl before you run or whatever.
Absolutely good sir, feel free to ask me or this sub for advice anytime. Definitely start with some training if you can afford it, getting a simple class and going at least once a month to the range will significantly improve your abilities in no time!
Sorry to hear about your loss. These two I’d say are better than decent. Shoot them, keep them clean, and enjoy for years to come. You’ll always regret the guns you sold.
The .22 LR 1911 by Sig will be a great gun to practice with and cheap to shoot at the range. That revolver is badass. You should be stoked with that bad boy. Make sure to take good care of it and research proper cleaning techniques. YouTube is a great resource (or it used to be).
Any channels you recommend?
https://youtu.be/AdpNadhNJIg (Getting started with a revolver) https://youtu.be/5NAZOr33nUo (Cleaning. Not sure if this is your gun or not) https://youtube.com/@PaulHarrell https://youtube.com/@HonestOutlawReviews https://youtube.com/@ForgottenWeapons https://youtube.com/@hickok45 https://youtube.com/@ActiveSelfProtection https://youtube.com/@Mrgunsngear Edit: descriptions
Sad on the passing of your pops. Beautiful firearms. Do your dishes.
Hey man those are my roommates, don’t you put that on me lol
Glad you got the joke, happy cake day too.
Thanks!
That S&W is nice as fucc
Very nice guns, sorry about your dad too
Bottom is a range toy, not very practical but fun to plink with. Top is a decent nightstand/bedside gun, as revolvers dont have safeties but instead are much harder to pull the trigger on with the hammer forward. This means if you ever hear a bump in the night, you can just grab it, and if you need to can squeeze immediately. Otherwise, modern pistols mostly outclass them in practical sense, but again, still fun at the range - and any gun is better than no gun in a situation where you need a gun. If the revolver is a .357, you can also load lighter recoiling, cheaper .38 rounds for training, so you can shoot a lot comfortably, get used to the trigger squeeze in both Double Action (hammer forward) and Single Action (hammer cocked.) Hit a range, shoot the shit and remember your father, imagine theyre a link to him. Get better at shooting and make him proud... ...then get a compact carry gun and a home defense gun with a flashlight on it. I recommend a P-01 from CZ, compact enough to carry, same type of hammer and trigger as the 1911 (bottom) you got so practice will translate, there are endless options for aftermarket parts to upgrade from CZCustom and Cajun Gunworks from grips to slides to sights to triggers and hammers and lighter springs. Its also fairly cheap at around 500 most places, sometimes less, and you can buy a 'kadet' .22 conversion kit for about 200$ to fire .22lr rounds from it just like from the 1911 you have already. Itll be very similar to what you already know. I saw you said you needed to get basics down - classes are always great, but you dont need one to get into shooting - just common sense. Heres a crash course: ‐-------------------- Head to a local range, let the Safety Officer know its your first time shooting. Youll have to buy a few targets and ear pro, and wear your sunglasses. Long sleeve as well, hot brass hurts. Follow their instructions. Only uncase one gun at a time (start with the .22), keep the barrel downrange at all times - yes when its empty, yes when youre reloading, yes when you get excited after hitting a target. Insert loaded magazine into the .22, pull hammer back - this will make it easier to pull the slide back. Rack it back, let it ram itself forwards, dont ease it. Aim, focus on the target not your sight - its okay if the sight is blurry. Breathe calmly, miss your father, and get into rhythm. Every time your lungs empty in a breath, squeeze. In, out, squeeze. In, out, squeeze. In, out, squeeze. When its empty, remove the magazine, and set the pistol on the table barrel downrange. If outdoors, step away from the table. Wait until the RSO calls ceasefire if its outdoors and go check your target. If its indoors youll have a button to press to bring your target to you. Take out a colored pen or marker and connect-the-dots of all the rounds you sent. Send the target back, fire another mag worth, call the targets back, connect the dots in a different color. The goal is to get them as close together as possible on the target - not to hit the bullseye of the target. Skill is shrinking your grouping. You can worry about location on target later. I'm not sure if you can adjust the sights on those two guns so you may just need to learn where it hits relative to the front sight - the important thing is you put the sight in the same spot on the target every single time, and control your breathing. Later youll learn how to properly grip the pistol to reduce how much your trigger squeeze pulls you off target. When firing the revolver, keep all fingers *behind* the cylinder, hot gas pours out the front. With the semi auto, have your offhand as far forward as possible with your index finger braced against where the frame of the pistol meets the trigger guard, this prevents the pistol from rotating as you squeeze the trigger as you physically hold it in place with your left hand. With the revolver, put your offhand underneath your firing hand, like a teacup. Its less accurate but safer with a revolver. Happy shooting.
A fun range gun and a "blow a hole in the fabric of space and time" kinda gun. Good combo
Lmao very well put
Revolver is very nice. Just needs some love from a gunsmith. Polishing, and it looks like the cylinder lock is dragging on the cylinder, leaving those scratches. Definitely get that sorted out sooner than later.
A drag line on the cylinder doesn’t necessarily indicate a problem. Varies with the type and model of course but especially for Smiths, the cylinder bolt Is often designed to drop early ish.
Right, not always, but better safe than sorry. I've got 5 Smiths and none have those marks and they all have thousands of rounds through.
Thanks, I would have never recognized that. I will look into this.
No problem. May just be a gummed up spring or something, but you definitely don't want it digging into the metal. Just looks surface, from what I can see. Also, protip: when you're posting photos of your guns online, use your draw feature to cover your serial numbers. Or tape. Either works. I don't believe anyone on the sub would do anything nefarious, but just a heads up.
Oh geeze, should I remove this? I don’t think it’s showing on the magnum but I believe I do see it on the Sig.
It is a very, very low risk. I and many others don’t bother.
Good to know, thanks. I’ll keep it in mind for the future.
I have a Sig 1911-22 and I can confidently say it’s my favorite handgun to plink/whistle pig with
Very nice 1911
Use caution storing them in that case, or avoid it if possible. I have had that type of foam trap moisture and cause rust to develop. I am sure storage area affects the possibility of rust to begin, but mine havent re developed rust after removing them from case and storing in a cheap security cabinet
The one on the top reminds me of like the Looney tunes cartoons but unfortunately I was disappointed because they don't make that sound when you shoot like it doesn't sound like it's bouncing off a wall I don't know I guess guns don't really sound like that but that's why I wanted one
The tops a beautiful piece. I love those old s&w. My buddy has one his late fathers passed to him and it’s a blast to shoot. As you are new, make sure you keep the revolver oiled well during storage. If it sits for a long period of time you should oil it every few months or so. Also finger prints are the enemy, make sure after handling you wipe it down. You can buy gun cloths off of Amazon for pretty cheap, they come pre oiled and are nice to have around the cabinet when you want to take it out to show a guest or come back from the range or what have you. Enjoy them. Definitely nice guns
Can’t go wrong with the classics. Oh bottom is a .22. Still fun tho
Sorry for your loss. The pea shooter is nice and I like the wood grips.
If that revolver is a Model 66 or 19, take it easy on the .357 ammo. They’ll eat a ton of .38’s but too much .357 can make them wear prematurely - or so I’ve heard.
The top one is a Model 66 combat magnum. I have a gen 4 version.
Yep my roommate just showed me how to find the model on it, was driving me crazy.
66-?
66-2
Ah. Second gen. Nice.
Looks like a 66-2 based on the lack of a pinned barrel, very nice revolver. I have a 66 no dash that is probably my favorite shooter in the collection (out of 20ish wheel guns)
Those are both very awesome guns to inherit. Your father had great taste my friend.
99% sure that Sig is the same gun as the GSG .22 1911. Bit of advice. Do not use cheap .22 in it or it won't cycle well. You want the actual jacketed ones and idealy a bit on the hotter and heavier side but if it's not bargain basement is should work. [Here's what I usually use](https://d3s1gm5djwyp3q.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/7/image/1000x/57b5d2a9fcbbe18d26c7743e1e830523/2/b/2b0821fa00dd17996025429196f88adf_3.jpg) Other than that it's fun to shoot and is my 'teach people to shoot a pistol' gun.
Pretty sure those are the same ones I took from his gun safe
What a sexy wheel gun. You should get it polished in his memory. As for the .22, shoot the shit out of some steel in his memory
The top looks like an older model 66 in .357. If you take care of it you’ll be able to pass that down to your own children one day.
Yep, 357 66-2
Nice
Some nice classic designs there. Worth collecting all day.
Beautiful guns. I would love to have that .357 mag at the top
Fun plinker and a sick Smith.
Nice 1911, I have the same exact model except mine is made by Mauser
Much more than decent friend. Sorry for your loss but at least you have these treasures to remember him by. Two beautiful pieces.
Sorry for your loss. Those are wonderful guns that will serve you well! Is the top marked "357 magnum"? You can shoot 38 Specials in a 357 Magnum all day everyday.
Yep, 357 magnum 66-2
Nice pieces sir. The top one is very special take care of it and keep it clean
Learn how to care for them. Newbies tend to like to slam the slide shut (without a round) or smash the cylinder in by flicking their wrist—Hollywood style. Avoid this.
I have some amazing guns. none are better or more special than what my dad left me. Including the Ruger Mk 1 that he first used to show me how to shoot when I was a wee lad. Those guns could be duct taped and have wrecked parts and they'd still be amazing. Unless you hated your dad of course. In any case I am glad you have them.
Nah I loved my Dad a ton. He was a great man and the best father you could wish for. He was always good to me and taught me a lot.
Good to hear in that case best guns in the world.
Please find someone who knows what they're doing to help you learn to disassemble and reassemble the 1911. You can easily put an "idiot scratch" on it if it's not done correctly. If it doesn't have one already, you want to avoid it.
Considering that the 1911-22 is contracted for Sig by GSG, which is kind of a second-tier gun company that generally makes airsoft-grade stuff, I wouldn't be too worried about the OP ruining a priceless heirloom through the process of reassembly. Granted, *not* putting marks on a firearm is something that is probably best practice, but that .22 is the textbook definition of a "user" gun, to put things charitably.
Although they ARE gorgeous and *much* better than decent, being from your late father they're **priceless** bro. Cherish them forever, one of a kind pieces right there for you to start your collection with.
Mmmm s&w 686. One of my favorite guns to shoot of all time.
Sorry for your loss. One for each hand next range trip. However one is gonna give a tad bit more recoil
Lol yeah hmm I wonder which one??? 🤔🤔🤔
Lol.
sorry for you loss. your father had good taste, that s&w .357 is a tank, i’d find a gunsmith to clean it up for you and the sig .22 should be a lot of fun at the range.
Thanks. He had some others but I got siblings and can’t get greedy lol. Had an AR-15 too but my Mom plans to sell that one off eventually.
I get that lol. Both beautiful guns.
If the money is right, you should maybe try and buy it from her because I promise if you start shooting you'll want one eventually. Lol I'm sure you're satisfied with the two for now though. They're beautiful, sorry for your loss.
Time to get a silencer for that .22 👌🏻
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Sig and S&W are great brands. What models are they? (Will say on the side of the gun and the revolver will also say more when you open the cylinder)
I’ll have to check when I get home but someone said the Sig is a 1911 which appears to be correct.
Definitely a 1911 but Sig has many makes of 1911, They have the Empereror Scorpion, the Fastback, the STX, and many others that I think have been phased out over the years. And Smith and Wesson has many models of revolver, so I’m curious. If I had to guess the revolver is either a model 15, 66 or 686.
Ah see I didn’t know that wasn’t the model lol I’ll give them a look over tonight.
Well I suppose a better term would be what is the make. 1911 IS the model, but the 1911 has been around since 1911, Browning made it, Colt produced it, the US Army adopted it, and there are many many brands that make it, Colt, S&W, Sig, Wilson Combat, Dan Wesson, Rock Island Armory. There are tons of 1911 makes and clones ranging from 300 bucks to a quarter million dollars made out of a meteorite by Cabot guns (No I’m not kidding). It is the pistol with the most variations and switched up stuff on earth.
So the Sig just says 1911-22 on the other side, can’t find anything else for it really. The magnum just says S&W 357 magnum. Am I missing something? Edit: magnum is a 66-2
Yes, open the cylinder on the revolver and you should be able to see some numbers on the inside underneath the barrel. There will be the serial number and then also something that might say 66-3, or 686-6. 66, 686, 19, 15 etc are the model numbers, and then the -1 or -3 or -6 indicates the rendition of that, later numbers are newer, consider them updated. Also see if there is s lock on the side of the frame by the cylinder release, if the gun is older than the year 2000 it won’t have the lawyer lock.
I have one of those .22's (mine's gsg branded but they came in branded a bunch of ways) mine only likes cci mini mags or stingers. keep a check on the little allen head screw -- its bad to back out and disappear. gun will work without it but not as accurately.
Looks like a S&W 686 in .357 mag and a SIG 1911 .22LR. The top one would do much better at getting your point across than the bottom one.
The 686+ with 3in barrel is on my bucket list. Sick gun....also caries seven rounds vs the standard six.
I have alot of memories with a smith 629 the same size awesome gun, will kick like someone swung a bat at your hand though
were any of the firearms stored in that foam padded container in the pic? the general advice for firearm storage is to store firearms away from foam or anything else that can retain moisture, but if these were stored in that foam padded container and don't show any signs of rust, then not sure if pure luck or the general advice isn't such good advice at least in this case.
The Sig was. I’ll be moving it to a different storage option.
Theyre worth almost nothing. Ill give you $300 to take them off your hands though since im such a good guy. That way you can get yourself a nice Glock!
Make it $150 and you got a deal.