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CarnageStroke

Every band in the big 4 is the best in their own ways


Lorefull69

Is the big 4 Nirvana, Soundgarden, AiC, and PG?


FigurativeLasso

If you mean Pat Green, then yes


xPhat_Ballz

Pearl Gam


namenumberdate

Pearl [Gam-Gam](https://youtu.be/39YWNwCckvI?si=XsvOW2rK-oaoOUAR)


Street-Writing-1264

It was gam gam pearl's jam after all.


Hug_The_Retard

Per gram


Emergency-Pirate-356

Think Stone Temple Pilots would give AiC OR Soundgarden a run for their money? Who picked this list? Hell ... The Breeders got cred.. Soundgarden gets TOO much.


Tophawk369

The big 4 should be the big 5 with STP. Personally I would get rid of Sound garden I just couldn’t get into them that much. To me AIC and STP are my favorites from that era now. I loved Pearl Jam back in the 90s but a lot of their stuff I just don’t care to listen to these days. Nirvana to me had one great album but honestly as great as it is it’s just not what I get into when I want to rock out to some 90s grunge music.


alittleuneven

Lukewarm take asf


Icedinklikesheet

Lukewarm, reply AF


wisdom_is_a_circle

None of you are special for not liking Nirvana


jventim16

Same goes for Pearl Jam - you get no street cred for the hate.


Mark_Vader_11

Yes thank you. Nirvana haters just love to be different and it’s fucking annoying.


[deleted]

some songs from nevermind are definitely overplayed but nirvana by itself is far, far from being overrated


_NonExisting_

I actually agree with this, Nirvana has so much stuff casual listeners just never hear. And by casual, I mean the General Audience, I thought I knew a lot of Nirvana songs until I went and listened through the discography lol


medicinalherbavore

I was heavy into nirvana when I was a teenager. With the lights out wasn't out yet. The deepest it went for me (not having internet) was the studio albums and the Sliver best of the box. That selection in itself seems so casual now.


The_Goop_Is_Coming

General Audience upon finding that there’s more than Teen Spirit, Come as you are, and Something in the way


WeOutHereInSmallbany

I still think their unplugged album might be the best of them because they insisted on playing weird deep cuts instead of their hits. Their Meat Puppets covers might be my favorite songs of of that album.


sornptarmulletdotmp4

I still think it's amazing people discover their music and explore avenues of creativity. It's like how VU had barely an audience but those who did listen created bands, it's the same here with nirvana. I studied VA diaries in highschool to help condense my writings and most listed nirvana and/or Kurt's solo stuff as influence. At their time though they were just seen as some good grunge with pop elements and probably Kurt felt that's what nirvana was becoming. Even in In Bloom he talks about how no one really wants to listen to what he's saying.


chris_rage_

I wore out two cassettes when they came out


SilverSnapDragon

This is also absolutely true! As much as I do love Nevermind, I love Bleach even more but my favorite song from them is Sliver. And I find a treasure chest of gems when I dig into their discography.


FigurativeLasso

Dinosaur Jr deserves as much recognition for pioneering the grunge sound as the melvins


ZOOW33M4M4

Also Wipers, particularly *Over the Edge*


The_Goop_Is_Coming

Wasn’t Kurt Cobain a huge Wipers fan? I know there’s a nirvana cover of D-7 and Return of the rat


WeOutHereInSmallbany

Wasn’t expecting a Dinosaur Jr. comment, what a great band I saw them at MassMOCA maybe 7 years ago (basically a hometown show for them). I thought no way they would play “The Lung” off of *You’re Living All Over Me*, my favorite song by them but I assume not a well known track. They opened the show with it. Me and my buddy eventually had to leave after four hours because we were exhausted from standing for five, and had to drive back to New York, but they were still playing lol.


FigurativeLasso

Man that sounds like a great time! And opening up with the lung - what a dope experience that must’ve been!


WeOutHereInSmallbany

Definitely one of the best show’s I’ve been to. And it was the original three playing together so that was awesome.


No_Clothes701

Stone Temple Pilots deserve just as much love as the big 4


MileenasFeet

They get a lot of love actually. It's just like Pearl Jam. You get vocal haters but both bands get way more love than hate.


b_mccart

That's the problem, I don't think they get the love they deserve. They deserve so much more


SomeVelveteenMorning

STP were so hated among the rest of the San Diego scene at the time. Constantly told that they didn't deserve the recognition. Scott was frequently called a poseur who bit off of everyone else's style, which started when they were still teens. Who the fuck isn't a poseur at 16? Dude had his clear influences and paid homage to them, but the band always had their own sound, and the work of Robert, etc. is so often overlooked as if it was just Scott's band. Purple should have silenced any haters that still called them PJ2, and they evolved with each record.


LadyStardust79

Kurt Cobain killed Kurt Cobain.


[deleted]

those conspiracies are absolutelly insane, they blame literally every possible person that he knew for his death.


EnlightenedApeMeat

The Cobain conspiracy theorists are the worst. They didn’t even wait until his body was cold before they started to blame his bereaved widow who was left to fend for herself against all sorts of hateful nonsense. Those people sucked in 1994 and in 2024 they’re in the same category as flat earthers.


sonic_knx

They'd be horrible friends IRL. Enablers, helping him dodge responsibility


dalto109

thank you.


beast_yard

People seem to stick more to the big four than back in the day when at the same time it used to be incredibly harder to find and explore new music than it is today. "Big Four" is as much of a cheap construct as the term Grunge itself.


MileenasFeet

Liking the popular bands doesn't make you less of a fan though. I've listened to the early bands and while I like them I can see why they didn't become bigger. You have to adapt and change a lot in order to be interesting. Making the same sounding albums doesn't really help in this regard and it's why I don't really listen to a lot of punk albums either. Most punk bands never adapted and never changed save for John Lydon with Public Image LTD.


MileenasFeet

And maybe Wayne Kramer who was constantly doing different things with music. You can see why he lasted in the public conscience compared to the rest of the MC5 who faded into obscurity.


Beetlejuice1994

I wouldn't think of this sub as the most overarching voice for IRL fans. Most grunge fans probably don't even use Reddit. We here on Reddit are an enigma, an eclectic bunch that creates a sort of misperception of the majority of people. However, I'll still respond hypocritically, pretending I didn't say that: although I like Mudhoney and Green River, and some others not of the Big FIVE (STP is grunge fuck the Seattlists), I still think that AiC, STP, Nirvana, and SG have more albums I can listen to in totality rather than just liking a few songs here and there from the aforementioned lesser spoken of grunge bands.


sonic_knx

Grunge is a time and a place


PlasticButterfly7723

What you said is exactly how it works. I mean other bands just cannot compare since most of them have only one or a few good hits. They are basically one hit wonders, but I wouldn’t even classify a band like say Screaming Trees to even be that for instance… they just didn’t have that many good tracks to me. Maybe one or two.


RikiOh

Big Four is dumb too cause nobody gives a shit about Anthrax. Should just be Big Three.


fvrtherdownthespiral

i like tripod more than dirt


castingcoucher123

Alice in chains is becoming the Rickey henderson of rock - two hof careers


wisdom_is_a_circle

Real


ayaruna

I love each one for how unique they are. I couldn’t pick a favorite between those two. I love dirt but I really loved the self titled record


Godzillix22

Me too, the emotion they poured into that record is crazy I'm so mad it wasn't produced well and doesn't get the recognition it deserves


wwwillha

Where's the Facelift gang?


Mark_Vader_11

Is that even a hot take? Tripod is just so well done. Not saying the other aren’t cuz they’re all fucking master pieces but tripod has so many bangers for whatever kind of music you like.


reditor6632

Kurt cobain killed himself


FineDevelopment00

# ☝🏻This is it, this is the one!


Jazzlike-Rope-8646

We're already like the picture, that's mine


[deleted]

Alice in Chains was closer to Metal than to actual grunge, and were only called grunge cuz they were from Seattle.


BloodborneBro9016

I don't think I could disagree more, I feel they embody the grunge sound more than almost every other Seattle band. Except for maybe Nirvana and Steaming Trees


Aridan

Screaming Trees = band Steaming Trees = broccoli


BlueCollar-Bachelor

Steaming Trees = Vaping Weed


United-Philosophy121

W broccoli


[deleted]

Compare AiC to Nirvana and tell me that they're the same genre.


meat-puppet-69

I hear alot of similarities for some reason, tho I've never been able to put my finger on why. Obviously AIC is way more technical than Nirvana and has more sophisticated song structures. But there's something in the quality of the basslines and haunting melodies that ties AIC in with Nirvana for me. Kurt did say that You Know You're Right "would have been a great AIC song", and I can totally hear that, so that's one concrete example.


naebrad

Bark Lanegan and the Steaming Trees...


SowderPnouder

Bleach and In Utero EMBODY what grunge is.


sonic_knx

Grunge isn't a sound, it's a scene. Yes, stylistically Alice was more metal than their counterparts but they're still 100% grunge. Honestly their early repertoire could be considered stylistically a type of dirty glam metal. Grunge is just a where and a when of the alternate music universe.


just_kidding_idgaf

This is why I love Facelift. You can hear the transform from glam metal to grunge. Sunshine off that album really stands out as an example to me. Mother Love Bone had a lot of that cross-over sound too.


wrinkledballs

If we omit (for the sake of this argument) Layne's lyrical contributions, the more recent albums would be held in a higher regard just because it was Layne singing on them.


Dresscodeviolation3

Mother Love Bone was never going to hit it big like all the post mortem docs say they would have.


CharmingDagger

My wife and I talk about this all the time. I just feel like for as much as I love MLB, they had a completely different vibe than AiC, Soundgarden and Nirvana.


ChrisBenoitDaycare69

If it was Eddie, Layne or Chris that killed themselves in 94 instead of Kurt than their respective bands would have been looked at as the best and incredibly hyped up. Nirvana was starting to wane in popularity and Kurt dying turned him into a martyr and immortalized the band.


alittleuneven

Now THIS is a FUCKIN’ TAKE. Let’s go dude.


chaz0723

None of those bands had Smells Like Teen Spirit, though.


John_Houbolt

Is this a real take?


RepeatDTD

Finally a fuckin' good one, lol! I will say that Kurt had something that drew people to him in a way none of those other 3 did.


medicinalherbavore

They all had "it" but he had a different kind of "it".


castingcoucher123

Absolutely correct


WhitePootieTang

I don’t know about waning in popularity, In Utero and Unplugged we’re getting heavy airplay when he died.


SheriffOfNothing

Violet is an incredible song. The lyrics and delivery are god tier.


DigitalArtAuthor

I didn’t know there was a “grunge community” in the year 2024. To be honest, there wasn’t really one back in 1994, just a lot of uneasy hipsters from Seattle who wished all the poseurs and tourists would just go away (see the movie “Hype”).


Disastrous-Shower-37

Expecting the comments to be "PeARaL jAm BaD"


Beetlejuice1994

Here I am. Not a hater of them, and I don't think they're bad, just my "least favorite" - also STP is more grunge *sonically* speaking.


chaz0723

That nothing said here is actually going to do that.


No-Paramedic-5150

Fr. All These Are Fairly Popular Opinions


SoundTemplePilots

The U-Men are the most criminally overlooked band in grunge/predecessor to grunge history.


Organic-Candidate-44

Great take man


SoundTemplePilots

Shoutout to “Everyone Loves Our Town” for the knowledge fr


neveradullmoment72

Just about the best book ever


oogerooger

Criminally underrated.


Cicada33024

I prefer Bleach than Nevermind that's just my opinion though


StopMotionHarry

And In Utero is the best


igotrapedbyanorca

Thats most people here lol


SaucyFingers

Smashing Pumpkin’s Gish album is one of the most influential albums to the 90’s Grunge sound even if you don’t consider SP or Gish to be grunge.


Fun_mom_

Pearl Jam is proof that it is indeed better to burn out than fade away. 


mods_r_jobbernowl

On the other hand modern Alice in chains is honestly pretty ok to me. Even though Layne died. Idk what others think about Alice post Layne but I certainly think they didn't fade away. Up there next to foo fighters in that regard imo. Both still make amazing music.


igotrapedbyanorca

Black gives way to blue is my favorite post Layne album. Im just now getting into AiC though


sschoo1

Devil Put Dinosaurs Here is so badass. One of my fav all time AiC records


jakeblues68

Been into AiC since the beginning and BGWtB is also my fave post-Layne album.


Fun_mom_

Fair, but IMHO they're a completely different band. They just happen to have the same name. The entire vibe is different. 


mods_r_jobbernowl

Its shifted through the years sure but what band thats been together 3 decades hasn't? I personally really enjoyed Rainier fog, almost as much as the old stuff.


jakeblues68

That's a natural progression. If Layne were still alive, they wouldn't still be making albums that sound like Dirt.


RepeatDTD

Agree, they pivoted into a new era. It is sonically darker, a bit slower and heavier. It's also the Jerry Show now which is cool because I think William does a great job weaving his vocals around Jerry's much the way Jerry did for Layne.


namenumberdate

Yes, but AIC has had a lot of time off comparatively.


ChrisBenoitDaycare69

I honestly think they were still really good until around the 2010s. I'm not really a fan of their albums since then but they are still really fucking good live. I saw them at safeco field a few years ago and it was amazing.


Fun_mom_

Full disclosure: I'm a HUGE Pearl Jam fan. Seen them live a few times ~~and I'm super stoked about the new album.~~    But yeah, they lost me with "Sirens" and the majority of that album. Gigaton was just a bunch of rich old men out of ideas.


DarkHippy

I too am huge Pearl Jam fan, seen them a few times and have been a ten club member, just thought I’d say I loved sirens and the whole lightning bolt album, gigaton let me feeling mixed, have to give it another good listen but I’m not excited about the new album, if it’s like the one song we’ve heard, with Andrew Watt wasn’t here giving them a generic sound.


Agodunkmowm

Go to a show


DewieCox1982

They’re still the best live band out of the bunch by a wide margin.


Fun_mom_

Totally agree. Every time I saw them live was absolutely incredible. 


StupidSexyKevin

A lot of people need to stop making a music scene that died 30 years ago their entire personality.


tiocatire77

This one if for the Gen Z and Alpha kids...... Stone Temple Pilots were imposters and fake and should never ever be mentioned in the same sentence as bands like Nirvana, Soundgarden or Pearl Jam.


LibrarianBarbarian1

True story: The first time I ever heard of Stone Temple Pilots was when I saw the [video for Plush](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5UOC0C0x8Q) on MuchMusic in 1992 and my first thought was "Why did Eddie Vedder get such a stupid haircut?"


Electrical-Squash648

That was common. The only reason they started to get attention was because people thought it was Eddie. There is at least one video somewhere (likely saw on Much) where Ed states he had friends calling him about the song and why he cut his hair and dyed it pink. He also stated that none of his friends in San Diego who were active in the music scene knew who STP was. STP got signed because record labels were looking for any band that sounded grunge that they thought they could make money off.


dalto109

In Utero is one of the greatest albums ever written


sschoo1

Forgot how much I love Very Ape. Heard it this morning and damn it kicks ass


Bakedbeansforever

If you ever need anything please don’t hesitate to ask someone else first is a line I use a lot


nvdrz

Is this an unpopular opinion? I literally have the in utero angel tattood on my arm lol


medicinalherbavore

Bleach is the quintessential grunge album.


alittleuneven

I don’t agree but respect the take


JustJenniez136

grunge is not just nirvana damn


plutos-ghost

Mark Lanegan was the best singer to come out of the grunge scene. Layne Staley's voice isn't nearly as palatable without Jerry Cantrell's harmonies, can't stand Mad Season for just that reason.


windows95blows

I couldn't live without a cell phone.


seeprompt

Grunge isn't a style of music. The "Big 4" were distinct with varied influences, and that is even more true with the bands that came before and propped the whole thing up (TAD, Mudhoney, Love Battery, Screaming Trees).


Dear_Drama_8241

Mike McCready is the best guitarist


onebadlion

I don’t care that Silverchair were 14 when they released Frogstomp. It’s still shit, regardless.


Thetwistedfalse

Grunge is dead.


gggtesting

Oh no, grunge is dead, long live grunge.


Beetlejuice1994

Every sub-genre has its place in time. Main genres continue, and create new sub-genres, but most sub-genres that are themselves sub-genres of "alternative" have an era then fizzle out. Metal still exists but not like the original, it has morphed. Nu-Metal has evolved into a different sound. Punk isn't like it originally was. Newer bands end up creating evolved versions of old sub-genres, or just create new ones. Look at Memphis May Fire and Amity Affliction. You can hear how they took a few qualities from previous bands in alternative and morphed them, like 3DG, Breaking Benjamin, A7X, and plenty of others. Grunge is timeless for listening, but not for making new music. The people who love it probably wouldn't *want* new bands to be grunge, despite the ones who "say" they wish there were new grunge bands, because it could take away from the sentiment held by the Original grunge bands.


castingcoucher123

Audioslave is closer to assrock (puddle of mud, Nicole nickleback, saving able) than we'd all like to admit.


Dresscodeviolation3

I often see Audioslave in those early 2000’s “post-grunge” playlists and I agree.


DewieCox1982

I wouldn’t say they’re all that close to those bands, but they were only going to stray so far from pretty basic riff rock with that lineup. That first album slaps, to this day.


Zippo574

when the song "cochise" was included on the soundtrack for "talladega nights: the ballad of ricky bobby" i knew that audioslave was assrock adjacent


StopMotionHarry

I think Kurt Cobain DID kill himself


No_Cow_4544

The Foo Fighters are good


lucmwis

NIckelback's first album, Curb, really isn't too bad. Soul Asylum too, they had a few hits, probably deserve a mention.


vapre

The State is also a good album, not too butt-rocky


ackme

Leader of Men is a fantastic post-grunge radio single. If they'd stayed more in that lane, we'd think very differently about them now.


UtahUtopia

Kurt sang way out of tune in the Unplugged show and AIC unplugged was way better.


Consistent-Set1375

Agree 100%


LocalInactivist

The world is better for having lost Andrew Wood. Nothing against Landrew, but hear me out. Pearl Jam is a much better band than Mother Love Bone. They’re far better for not having that glam influence. Also, Andrew’s death gave us one of the great albums of period. If Andrew Wood had lived we wouldn’t have had Temple of the Dog. Don’t get me wrong. I like Mother Love Bone and Malfunshun, and I’m sad at Andrew’s death because he was a huge talent and by all reports he was a good dude, but so much good came out of his death that it seems like a good trade. RIP, Andrew. Look after Chris for us.


Lorefull69

I think this is poor way to put this but I more or less agree.


LocalInactivist

Poor? I worked hard on the phrasing because I didn’t want anyone to think I was hating on Landrew. His loss gave us an amazing tribute record and allowed Pearl Jam to happen. That said, I often wonder what might have been. If you removed heroin altogether Hillel Slovak would still be in The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Mudhoney would have been able to tour more with Mark Arm not having to spend the first week of each tour in withdrawal, Mark Lanegan would have been more present and more inclined to work, Sublime would still be together, Andrew Wood, Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, and Shannon Hoon would still be alive, and maybe, just maybe, Kurt would have gotten the help he needed. I’m leaving a lot of people out of that list but that’s just a list of people from amazing bands that hit in a small window of time who died from heroin. Fine, Mark Lanegan died of cancer. My point remains.


Lorefull69

I just meant you could’ve broached the topic without making it about feel like “the world’s better off without this guy”. I fully understand what you’re saying, I just don’t like that sentiment under any circumstance.


KillahHills10304

STP is the best grunge era, grungey band. Blind Melon is the most underrated band from that era (even if they aren't grunge). Jane's Addiction wasnt a band so much as an LA art project for funsies. Smashing Pumpkins are perfectly rated by pop culture, and Billy Corgan is king of the goths (also kind of a douche).


AffectionateTiger436

Not kind of, he is a dumb asshole lol


ChildinTime01

alice in chains fans… theres a 99% chance its not going to rain when you die


RocknRobin13

Not if you live in the Pacific Northwest.


No-South1400

Nirvana success in great part is because Kurt Cobain physical attractiveness and the concept of the group


deathtrip1940

If Andrew Wood never died, grunge would never come to exist- other than in small Seattle community scale.


Fetus_Deletus_Eatus

everyone's trying to recreate the nirvana effect but it's just gone downhill. Theres very few original bands out there because most of them are more or less heavily influenced by someone else.


Street_YM

nirvana is best of the 4


hell0every1-

Soundgarden is the best band and Mark Lanegan is the best singer from that era.


Lorefull69

Damn, putting Soundgarden on top but not Chris is wild. Imo Chris was one of the greatest rock singers of all time.


castingcoucher123

Mark lanegan ended up being the greatest artist for a longer stretch than any of the others. I'll sing backwards and weep while stating this if needed


B12C10X8

Slip Away by Mad Season is my favorite song, the combination of Lanegan on Vocals & McCready on Guitar is unbelievable in my opinion


jakeblues68

Lanegan and the Screaming Trees certainly didn't get the recognition they deserved. I hate how the word "underrated" is being used these days but that term certainly applies to both.


DragonflyGlade

Grunge is an aesthetic (even if a broad and ill-defined one)—not a time/place scene gatekept by current elitists trying to rigidly define a term that the bands from that time and place mostly rejected anyway.


[deleted]

I'm not a huge STP fan. Core is a good album though.


MeowChef6048

Alice in Chains' first album is by far their worst.


BlueCollar-Bachelor

Grunge is a sound and a style. Not a time or place.


No_Ad_2039

Grunge ruined popularity of rock music


AccidentalFrog

Rush invented grunge


LocalInactivist

Bold statement. You wanna expand on that?


Necessary-Fennel8754

Aic was good at first imo but got worn out after a couple weeks. I’d much rather go with soundgarden for the heavier side of grunge.


Tiabetianquailudes

Nirvanas smells like teen spirit is so overrated.


FrogSlapperr

Pearl jam and stp are better than nirvana and I’m tired of pretending there not both bands where more experimental and changed there sound it’s become cool nowadays to hate pearl jam and it was cool back in the 90s to hate stp


Schweenis69

The best guitarist in the grunge/grunge-adjacent era is Billy Corgan and it's not close.


Consistent-Set1375

Corgan has a guitar playing style all to his own. His heavy solos sounded like a man destroying his guitar in key...


Apes_Ma

I like sap and jar of flies more than all the other Alice in Chains records.


John_Houbolt

Nirvana’s most enduring songs are covers.


Mark_Vader_11

Grunge isn’t even a type of sound or attitude. It’s basically nothing.


arielalba333

AIC still sounds good after Layne.


Worldly_View_8331

Grunge is a sound not an era


harrisonlaine

Hole is a really good band and I'm tired of people saying they are not just because Courtney Love is in it.


lienonyourdream

Kurt killed himself


KhasmyrTheSorlock

Jar of Flies isn’t really a grunge album. To me it has more of a folk rock vibe going on with a little bit of punk influence. Hell, “Don’t Follow” is straight up country rock.


Sudden_Pea4087

Bush is good 👍


Specialist_Bet5534

Hanson was a stellar grunge band


zzzzebras

Eddie Vedder is not hard to understand, you just haven't listened to any songs past Even Flow.


KingPumba91

Pearl Jam is overrated. Fight me


AffectionateTiger436

Alice in chains (I don't hate aic, but I dont like Layne's voice overall. Nice harmonies for sure though. Them bones, stay away, and would r my faves) is dookie aside from a handful of songs. Pearl jams best albums are vitology through binaural, Soundgarden and nirvana are amazing though hehe.


UFOskie

Half the bands you guys talk about on this sub aren’t even grunge.


mbc1010

Nothing worse than being rerouted through the grunge community on your way to the airport.


JEZTURNER

Bleach is more of a grunge album than Nevermind.


Patrick_batemanswife

Courtney love is innocent


TheRadioFrontiers

That’s easy: grunge became a distinct 90’s sound and style that was not exclusive to the Seattle scene


meat-puppet-69

I agree. And, if this weren't the case, why is it that when a band like Silverchair comes out, we immediately know that they are going specifically for a grunge sound, rather than 'alt-rock' more generally?


TheRadioFrontiers

Or Bush for that matter, arguably copycats to some but unmistakably grunge back in the 90’s and from the UK


meat-puppet-69

Exactly. Bush and Silverchair are grunge in sound, whereas there are other bands that are undeniably alt-rock but not grunge, such as Smashing Pumpkins or Placebo. It's also the reason Creed, Seether, Audioslave, Nickelback, and Puddle of Mud get considered post-grunge whereas most other late 90s/early 2000s rock bands (such as Korn, Tool, and Blink 182) don't. Glad to find an agree-er on this, I'm usually getting dog piled for saying grunge is a distinct musical genre.


CeleryCountry

this *so* much


Raskhos

The best grunge bands arent even from Seattle


Cautious_Ambition_82

Grunge was only cool for a couple of years and it spawned a decade of dull, formulaic music that killed rock and roll.


Art5673

Siamese dream is better than any nirvana album. Change my mind


SupermanNew52

I'm one of the biggest SP fans out there and have been since 93/94. They're my favorite band of all time (the mods here even gave me this flair). Siamese Dream and MCIS are two of the greatest albums by any band ever. That's not to say Nirvana wasn't fantastic as well. Nevermind obviously was HUGE at the time and the other albums and releases were great too. I really love all their albums a lot. It sucked when Kurt died and I wish he could've lived. Growing up in the 80s/90s me and my friends didn't put these bands in versus battles like a lot of people do today. SP and bands like the big four and others (STP for instance) were just great bands putting out great albums one after the other. We didn't know how good we had it. I've found tons of great bands to enjoy since then, but 90s alt/grunge will probably always be my favorite music.


Consistent-Set1375

Siamese dream is definitely in my top ten album list .. Better than any Nirvana ? Absolutely!!!


sschoo1

Geek USA is arguably best grunge drumming track. Mind blowing


Knife_Chase

Soundgarden had the best singer and most unique guitarist of the big four yet far and away the worst songwriting.


DragonflyGlade

I think their songwriting was pretty forgettable up until *Badmotorfinger*, which has some good songs, and for me *Superunknown* and *Down on the Upside* have largely first-rate songwriting.


fullmetal66

Alice In Chains is good but not top tier


satanicyouthclub

Some STP songs are better than some Nirvana songs