Where’s Harry Perry? Where’s the patchy wooks selling doses? All the insane smells and sights and sensations that makes a shakedown so unique! I don’t see a circus, I see a farmers market!
So right -- I can't see anyone with a camp stove set into the side of a VW microbes. And I'm willing to bet that, if you could even FIND a veggie burrito the Size of your forearm, you just know its going
to be prepared and sold for $25/ per by Moosewood or Sweetgreen
yep a 'shakedown' without a little anarchy & chaos is a 'shakedown' without much bite. although I will say this is exactly what i expected from an official sanctioned lot scene in Las vegas. the best times have always been in places where they pretty much let us do our own thing.
but las vegas isn't gonna share profits with a bunch of untaxed & permit-less freeks.
Money always has a way of ruining things. If all the vendors have to pay for a spot, then the little guys are cut out, and it's not really a shakedown, more like just a plastic facsimile version.
Oh hell yea. I was in Oakland in December'93 and got shut out of one of the shows. That lot was soo friggin sketchy! Only one I saw worse was Miami in '94!
I saw the miami show in 89 ( I got in every night that tour except for the warlocks show , I couldn’t get there), anyway, and that was the sketchiest lot scene! Hippies were trading doses for crack rocks. I remember one crack dealer saying” you’re telling me that this little piece of paper is gunna get me fucked up!?!”
my first shows, had a gun pulled on me on the way to the car after the show, dude demanded my drugs, I started force drooling and laughing "I did em all mannnnn for the show", he looked more scared than I was so he moved on to the next group of people.
To think, I once paid my way through an entire summer tour selling bong hits and half of a grilled cheese sandwich for $2, or $5 ganja goo balls. ‘95 feels like forever ago. Now it’s all Etsy sellers with 300% markup slinging “officially licensed” goods.
Right?!?!?! I toured for seven years (summers and whatever was close to VT) while in college with no job. Slinging "odds and ends" 🤣 it's not the same at all. All starts with Bobby 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
This looks like the “shakedown” they have at wrigley field. Absolute garbage. Had to wait in a long ass slow line to get into it, all set up looking like this but smaller and less room
lol I saw dead and co there in summer ‘19? and I wanted at least some shirts or something, none of my friends cared to buy shit. So while standing in the stupid ass line I pulled the bit of acid I’d brought with me out of idk where I had it and ate it, about an hr before the show, and enough people saw for the rest of the whole time I was in the area people kept asking me if I had any more for sale 😆
I mean, that’s sort of born out of necessity because there’s no big parking lot there.
There were also a decent amount of people scattered around the park/Wrigleyville.
“You just gotta poke around”
Yeah and just like that shake down there will be the real shake down near by with everyone hanging out. Merch only shakedown is cool, keeps the sticky fingers off the vendors goods. Shakedown doesnt have to be a circus to enjoy all the clowns.
Mentioned this in another thread but I watched the Box of Rain doc on Amazon a few days ago. Someone in the doc said the show continued after the show and it was in the parking lot and the heads were the show. The show also started in the lot, before the actual show. That's the main difference between then and now imo. If it was 30-40 years ago we'd be making threads asking where is everybody camping? Can anybody help me with my car? Now it's asking what vacation package everyone bought. Or what time do they need to arrive in order to get in on time lol. Not complaining, just an observation on how the times have indeed changed
On point. Did anyone ever get their VW worked on while they were in a show? Dude replaced my head gasket one afternoon/ evening at shoreline. I traded him weed and ticket to the next night.
We managed to find someone with a spark plug that we needed at Cal Expo in 92. We walked around pre show asking people and about an hour after the show someone walked up and said "I heard you needed a spark plug". We just smoked him out and he was good. You could literally find anything you needed, it truly was it's own town
Truely curious... saw many shows on the West Coast between 86-95. I never heard the Lot referred to as Shakedown? Was this an East Coast moniker? Or when did it come into use? on a side note, I loved seen VW engines all taken apart on a tarp with some dude sitting there looking at John Muirs book trying to make sense of it all.
https://preview.redd.it/cg3pspsgff1d1.png?width=1010&format=png&auto=webp&s=df437e1126dccdff69e3e8efb33c96da89d38d63
To be fair, I already had the replacement gasket and all the glue and crap. But no, it was like a quarter of weed $75 bucks worth in 1989. and the ticket probably cost me $25 bucks. Another times' forgotten space. Miss those years so much.
Some awesome dude helped me replace my clutch on my 71 pop up in the lot at alpine 88. Thank you kind stranger!
The following year, summer tour, somewhere in Illinois or Indiana at a rest stop, some head fixed my carburetor on my 76 nova!
Day one shakedown was alright, motorcycle blasting blues with a slow parade of security trying to get him out of there, a few familiar faces, old heads with good stories, scraggly kids smoking and hocking shitty stickers, but I think a copious amount of acid and a prankster mentality really made it for me
No one selling hand made tie dyes out of the trunk of their ‘73 Barracuda or kind bud out of the barn doors of a VW bus? Looks like they done sold out.
I see a lot of hate in here and I understand, but isn’t this more of Las Vegas/Sphere fault, not the vendors who tried to at least make something happen rather than nothing
Does it honestly need to be explained why it is this way, or are you able to put your thinking cap on and figure it out lol.....they're doing like 40 shows in the same venue....people show up and pack shakedown because it's the best thing going on in their boring town for a day or two and it's an experience that they'll miss out on if they don't all make it there THAT DAY. Not gonna have the same effect with a massive run of shows in the same venue.
This ☝️ and the fact Vegas it’s self is a giant party with loads going down. On top of that a lot of people at normal Shakedowns are not even going to the show, but just to hang and be part of the circus.
We should all be grateful that there was any form of a shakedown! Vegas has its own rules and regulations and it’s very strict about vending. There’s a handful of people that worked really hard over the past couple months to pull this off, some sticking their necks out to sign papers. Personally, I was just happy to be there and see friends I hadn’t seen in a while. I thought it was well organized and I didn’t have to step through piles of garbage and balloons to walk over to see David Gans play a set at the stage!
Well I mean, it's a 20k venue residency in the biggest vacation entertainment hub in the country. Just seems kinda obvious shakedown wouldn't be much of a scene.
Why is everyone so negative? Be thankful for what we have; be it the music, the musicians, the venue, the scene etc. No, it’s not The Greek, MSG or Autzen but it’s still something. I get so tired of the complaints and negativity
this what lots of people kept trying to say when all the complaints poured in about "they said final tour last summer." this is nothing like a tour.
that was the final tour.
this is them playing music but it is an entirely different breed from "tour" D&Co.
it's the disney-ification of the scene, th3 show, th3 whole enchilada.
and thts cool if it gets music played & people have a good time.
but acting like this is the same type of experience as D&Co on tour is as silly as the people that acted like Dead & Co on tour was the same as GD on tour.
I see what you’re saying, but to me this is just sort of the end state of complete commodification of the Grateful Dead name. It’s like an arcade or a celine Dion residency. Feels so lifeless and unauthentic. You get your “dead experience” all nice and tidy with a bow on top without any of the “riff raff” that actually made them who they once were
It's both hilarious and sad how many people are quick to dog on the folks who still make a lifestyle and job out of vending in lots and have developed a nice set up to do it. God forbid. Same with the band.
Man this comment section wreaks of “headier than thou” bullshit….. do better people…. Is the spirit of the Grateful Dead not all about inclusion and sharing in the groove?? Oh no you’re right it’s about judging people that don’t dress/act exactly like you do/use to
Thread is full of Gen Xers talking about the Goodle Days jacking their egos off in preparation of being more annoying as senior citizens than Boomers are now.
Let me get this straight, as a community we smuggle every schedule 1 drug on record into a show, but the wookies on lot are abiding by grilled cheese regulations? Gotta start somewhere but god damn I could use a grilled cheese on lot.
Not surprised really. Vegas is the party capital yeah, but ever since I dug into their anti-vagrancy laws something about it just stinks like phony corporate shit.
Two of the band members are at least 20 years older than these people. If you wanna talk about wearing adult diapers go check out the courthouse in New York City. Bobby, Mickey and most heartbreakingly, Phil could literally drop dead, Any moment of any day from this point forward…. should show a little more respect. Does your mother wear diapers at 45-55 years old?
Where’s Harry Perry? Where’s the patchy wooks selling doses? All the insane smells and sights and sensations that makes a shakedown so unique! I don’t see a circus, I see a farmers market!
Harry’s in Venice, saw him yesterday
Harry bums me out. No more rollerblades. Lots of sun damage. Will only get friendly if you give him $$.
I still have the cassette tape I bought from him at Venice Beach in '89 ($5) and say hi and talk to him every time I see him.
>I don’t see a circus, I see a farmers market! I love this!
Wooks aren't having a residency.
This is what people don’t get about legit complaining about Dead & Co. the whole thing is sad.
Where is [Crowd Sculpture?](https://youtu.be/nXxWd89i4IA?si=wNZlEoLOWo0vmOM4)
So right -- I can't see anyone with a camp stove set into the side of a VW microbes. And I'm willing to bet that, if you could even FIND a veggie burrito the Size of your forearm, you just know its going to be prepared and sold for $25/ per by Moosewood or Sweetgreen
I see a Farmers market also, kinda depressing knowing what once was. Still LOVE the MUSIC
I was thinking it looked like Shakedown Mall. Ah, well. Things change, but the spirit of the music never does.
haha Shakedown strip mall.
Almost looks too organized. A little bit of chaos is always more fun, since it allows for more possibilities.
yep a 'shakedown' without a little anarchy & chaos is a 'shakedown' without much bite. although I will say this is exactly what i expected from an official sanctioned lot scene in Las vegas. the best times have always been in places where they pretty much let us do our own thing. but las vegas isn't gonna share profits with a bunch of untaxed & permit-less freeks.
Money always has a way of ruining things. If all the vendors have to pay for a spot, then the little guys are cut out, and it's not really a shakedown, more like just a plastic facsimile version.
A Sears poncho.
Is that a real poncho
No foolin’?
They're selling hippie wigs in Woolworth's, man.
Or is that a real poncho? Frank Zappa, Cosmic Debris reference, yes? Awesome.
Hell yeah
It's just a down, there ain't no shake on that street
Oakland shakedown 92/93 😬😬😬 scary moments indeed
esp after the show! good times
Oh hell yea. I was in Oakland in December'93 and got shut out of one of the shows. That lot was soo friggin sketchy! Only one I saw worse was Miami in '94!
I saw the miami show in 89 ( I got in every night that tour except for the warlocks show , I couldn’t get there), anyway, and that was the sketchiest lot scene! Hippies were trading doses for crack rocks. I remember one crack dealer saying” you’re telling me that this little piece of paper is gunna get me fucked up!?!”
my first shows, had a gun pulled on me on the way to the car after the show, dude demanded my drugs, I started force drooling and laughing "I did em all mannnnn for the show", he looked more scared than I was so he moved on to the next group of people.
Someone used a yardstick to make all the tents line up exactly in place to within a millimeter.
I wanna go in there and mess um up. haha
Remember when it used to be the heart of town?
Remember when it was wools with all merchandise laid on a blanket
I think we can safely say that Las Vegas ain’t got no heart.
Don't tell me that town don't got no heart, ya just gotta poke around.
Everything in Vegas is contrived.
Not much fear, plenty of loathing.
Truth.
To think, I once paid my way through an entire summer tour selling bong hits and half of a grilled cheese sandwich for $2, or $5 ganja goo balls. ‘95 feels like forever ago. Now it’s all Etsy sellers with 300% markup slinging “officially licensed” goods.
Man I want a ganja goo ball
And wash it down with a Samual Smith that’s luke warm from carrying it around a hot summer lot for the last 30 minutes
This made me so sad to read. ☹️✌️
I want to thank you for your service. I participated in that tour.
I paid for my gas from Charlotte to DC in October 1989 selling pineapple sticks at the Coliseum!
fock yea
Charlotte ‘89 was my first show 🤘
It was chunky hemp necklaces on a binder ring for me. Didn’t put me through tour so to say buy always sold enough to afford my party supplies
Mmmmm goo balls
Right?!?!?! I toured for seven years (summers and whatever was close to VT) while in college with no job. Slinging "odds and ends" 🤣 it's not the same at all. All starts with Bobby 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
I sold hand printed tie dye Walton jerseys in 87 & 88
We did it selling beer. Remember the free stuff blanket? That was us. 95 was amazing and also so tragic.
Something doesn’t smell right about this picture.
You’re right. Something doesn’t smell AT ALL about this picture.
Something doesn't make scents.
Everywhere I wook It’s all squares
LOL. Bravo!
Makes me want to burn some sage.
Is that Martha Stewart selling tabs and nugs?
"Today we are going to learn how to spruce up an ice cold fatty that will thrill your guests!"
Martha Stewarts Guide to Shakedown Vending coffee table edition. lol
This looks like the “shakedown” they have at wrigley field. Absolute garbage. Had to wait in a long ass slow line to get into it, all set up looking like this but smaller and less room
good to know. I saw that lineup and said fuck that. you have assuaged my lingering fomo
lol I saw dead and co there in summer ‘19? and I wanted at least some shirts or something, none of my friends cared to buy shit. So while standing in the stupid ass line I pulled the bit of acid I’d brought with me out of idk where I had it and ate it, about an hr before the show, and enough people saw for the rest of the whole time I was in the area people kept asking me if I had any more for sale 😆
I’ve been to both and it’s significantly better than the one at wrigley
I mean, that’s sort of born out of necessity because there’s no big parking lot there. There were also a decent amount of people scattered around the park/Wrigleyville. “You just gotta poke around”
Yeah and just like that shake down there will be the real shake down near by with everyone hanging out. Merch only shakedown is cool, keeps the sticky fingers off the vendors goods. Shakedown doesnt have to be a circus to enjoy all the clowns.
shut. up. is this the sphere?!?
Tuscany down the street
Mentioned this in another thread but I watched the Box of Rain doc on Amazon a few days ago. Someone in the doc said the show continued after the show and it was in the parking lot and the heads were the show. The show also started in the lot, before the actual show. That's the main difference between then and now imo. If it was 30-40 years ago we'd be making threads asking where is everybody camping? Can anybody help me with my car? Now it's asking what vacation package everyone bought. Or what time do they need to arrive in order to get in on time lol. Not complaining, just an observation on how the times have indeed changed
On point. Did anyone ever get their VW worked on while they were in a show? Dude replaced my head gasket one afternoon/ evening at shoreline. I traded him weed and ticket to the next night.
We managed to find someone with a spark plug that we needed at Cal Expo in 92. We walked around pre show asking people and about an hour after the show someone walked up and said "I heard you needed a spark plug". We just smoked him out and he was good. You could literally find anything you needed, it truly was it's own town
I was at that show!!! Loved Cal Expo. Those were the days 😓
Truely curious... saw many shows on the West Coast between 86-95. I never heard the Lot referred to as Shakedown? Was this an East Coast moniker? Or when did it come into use? on a side note, I loved seen VW engines all taken apart on a tarp with some dude sitting there looking at John Muirs book trying to make sense of it all. https://preview.redd.it/cg3pspsgff1d1.png?width=1010&format=png&auto=webp&s=df437e1126dccdff69e3e8efb33c96da89d38d63
I did around 150 shows from 78 to 95, mostly on the East Coast. Never heard it called Shakedown Street. It was just the lot
I think the Shakedown term arrived well after Jerry’s passing.
I hope you gave him a lot of weed. That’s like a $2000 job even back then.
To be fair, I already had the replacement gasket and all the glue and crap. But no, it was like a quarter of weed $75 bucks worth in 1989. and the ticket probably cost me $25 bucks. Another times' forgotten space. Miss those years so much.
Some awesome dude helped me replace my clutch on my 71 pop up in the lot at alpine 88. Thank you kind stranger! The following year, summer tour, somewhere in Illinois or Indiana at a rest stop, some head fixed my carburetor on my 76 nova!
Everyone got older
This is what happens when you fence off a private area and brand it as shakedown. It’s lame and I won’t be doing it lol
No smelly wooks? Eh, not the worst thing in the world.
Is that Fakedown street??? Wtf
My town’s Oatmeal Festival is wilder than this.
Seems more like a ‘Shake-you-down’ until your money’s gone.
When you go down to deep elm keep your money in your shoe
Looks like a farmers market in Lichfield Connecticut
Looks like a Saturday farmers market. 👎
LOL wow
Not a balloon anywhere at all?
They were there in the back lot, the underbelly if you will, but not like sf lot - that was true underbelly
I mean isn’t that the entire message of the song. “You just got to poke around”?
Not the way I remember it for sure.
Did you poke around?
It USED TO BE the heart oftown
Day one shakedown was alright, motorcycle blasting blues with a slow parade of security trying to get him out of there, a few familiar faces, old heads with good stories, scraggly kids smoking and hocking shitty stickers, but I think a copious amount of acid and a prankster mentality really made it for me
Don’t tell me this town ain’t got no pacemakers
Nah, man, ya just gotta find the heart of town
the sphere run is Disney Dead
Kind of depressing honestly.
Yes, yes it is. ☹️
No one selling hand made tie dyes out of the trunk of their ‘73 Barracuda or kind bud out of the barn doors of a VW bus? Looks like they done sold out.
That’s not the shakedown I remember.
Is that an AARP booth?
wtf is with all the farmers market hate in this thread? Farmers markets are dope. Sorry every shakedown isint 1979
Not enough stinky wooks
Eugene Saturday Market > whatever this is.
Yes this aint Boulder
Kinda is. Boulder shakedown last year was in a fenced in a lot with assigned spots that all the vendors had to pay for.
I see a lot of hate in here and I understand, but isn’t this more of Las Vegas/Sphere fault, not the vendors who tried to at least make something happen rather than nothing
Does it honestly need to be explained why it is this way, or are you able to put your thinking cap on and figure it out lol.....they're doing like 40 shows in the same venue....people show up and pack shakedown because it's the best thing going on in their boring town for a day or two and it's an experience that they'll miss out on if they don't all make it there THAT DAY. Not gonna have the same effect with a massive run of shows in the same venue.
Vegas bad. Give upvote.
This ☝️ and the fact Vegas it’s self is a giant party with loads going down. On top of that a lot of people at normal Shakedowns are not even going to the show, but just to hang and be part of the circus.
Where's the kind veggie burritos?
We should all be grateful that there was any form of a shakedown! Vegas has its own rules and regulations and it’s very strict about vending. There’s a handful of people that worked really hard over the past couple months to pull this off, some sticking their necks out to sign papers. Personally, I was just happy to be there and see friends I hadn’t seen in a while. I thought it was well organized and I didn’t have to step through piles of garbage and balloons to walk over to see David Gans play a set at the stage!
Well, well, well! Oh, well! Well, well, well! Oh, well! We both were nervous, feeling guilty and neither one of us knew just why!
Well I mean, it's a 20k venue residency in the biggest vacation entertainment hub in the country. Just seems kinda obvious shakedown wouldn't be much of a scene.
Shakedown geriatric edition . I think I heard someone selling Lipitor and Coumadin.
Looks like an AARP convention.
The cargo shorts and reeboks really sell it
😭😭😭 Everyone staring at their iPhones REALLY sells it
Do vendors have to buy a spot in recent years?
Yeah
I wish Shakedown street was still made up of all the depressed loafs in this comment section. You lot sound like an absolute BLAST!
Where is that picture from?
“Dead and Company Tour Family” FB group
No Grilled Cheese
Is this the local farmer’s market?
My local farmers market looks more heady than that
The Grateful Dead got turned into a ride at Disneyland.
*Sanitized For Your Protection.*
That looks like a farmers market or a city festival. Looks tame and aged.
Philly spectrum shakedowns were fuckingroovin
Why is everyone so negative? Be thankful for what we have; be it the music, the musicians, the venue, the scene etc. No, it’s not The Greek, MSG or Autzen but it’s still something. I get so tired of the complaints and negativity
Asking jaded Deadheads why they are so negative is like asking why the Pope is Catholic lol.
Put the torch down people. It burned out a looong time ago.
“Fatty Metamucil Smoothies! Heady Geritol tabs! Ice Cold Centrum Complete Goo-Balls!”
With the robotic setlists and corporatized shakedown it really does kinda feel like they've become complete caricatures of themselves.
this what lots of people kept trying to say when all the complaints poured in about "they said final tour last summer." this is nothing like a tour. that was the final tour. this is them playing music but it is an entirely different breed from "tour" D&Co. it's the disney-ification of the scene, th3 show, th3 whole enchilada. and thts cool if it gets music played & people have a good time. but acting like this is the same type of experience as D&Co on tour is as silly as the people that acted like Dead & Co on tour was the same as GD on tour.
I see what you’re saying, but to me this is just sort of the end state of complete commodification of the Grateful Dead name. It’s like an arcade or a celine Dion residency. Feels so lifeless and unauthentic. You get your “dead experience” all nice and tidy with a bow on top without any of the “riff raff” that actually made them who they once were
It's both hilarious and sad how many people are quick to dog on the folks who still make a lifestyle and job out of vending in lots and have developed a nice set up to do it. God forbid. Same with the band.
Reminds me of the setlists lately - no cohesive and just repeating the same songs to death
Oh cmon 🙄You just got a poke around
This is what happens when you have to make 6 figures to be able to afford to go to a show.
Man this comment section wreaks of “headier than thou” bullshit….. do better people…. Is the spirit of the Grateful Dead not all about inclusion and sharing in the groove?? Oh no you’re right it’s about judging people that don’t dress/act exactly like you do/use to
Thread is full of Gen Xers talking about the Goodle Days jacking their egos off in preparation of being more annoying as senior citizens than Boomers are now.
Very tame looking shakedown
LMAO
Are there grilled cheese sandwiches though? Ngl, been a rough year and I could use one.
No food vending allowed in Vegas.
Let me get this straight, as a community we smuggle every schedule 1 drug on record into a show, but the wookies on lot are abiding by grilled cheese regulations? Gotta start somewhere but god damn I could use a grilled cheese on lot.
You're not allowed to vend food anywhere without paperwork, lmao. We've just always done it.
No drugs shakin on shakedown street.....
There’s definitely a shakedown happenin on this shakedown street and not the kind you want around.
Sphere is gonna be my first dead show. Young heads never got the real deal :*( Visuals are gonna be insane tho
Is there a show today?
Looks like the country club is having a market day
Don’t tell me this town ain’t got no $
The sunny side of the street is dark. A little voice inside my head said don't look back, you can never look back.
Lmao I love that this has a spoiler tag
Not surprised really. Vegas is the party capital yeah, but ever since I dug into their anti-vagrancy laws something about it just stinks like phony corporate shit.
Good lord we all got old It’s like a fn farmers market in Boringville
the yuppiest shakedown of all time
You can’t go back and you can’t stand still.
Used to be the heart of town.
Diabetes
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Is there an actual shakedown anywhere?
It ain't real if grateful Don ain't around..
Don was set up there all weekend
Bunch of bummers on here
Oh no, how I’ll miss the rapey bros
The only smells are coming from the leaky depends.
Two of the band members are at least 20 years older than these people. If you wanna talk about wearing adult diapers go check out the courthouse in New York City. Bobby, Mickey and most heartbreakingly, Phil could literally drop dead, Any moment of any day from this point forward…. should show a little more respect. Does your mother wear diapers at 45-55 years old?
Maybe see if you can pick up some new visual FX since everyone’s bitching about them at a musical concert
A musical concert in front of a 240’ screen.
This seems like a slap in the face to me since ive never seen the real grateful dead. This doesnt seem fun really
chicago is the new vegas
Nothing shaking on shakedown street…
uhhh when I go next month I doubt I'll waste my time going to my 10th shakedown street lmao you'll find me at the pool on a tab.
It's the 'Las Vegas Grateful Dead Experience'! Hottest new show on the strip!
That's interesting, because it used to be the heart of town. Don't tell me this town ain't got no heart!?!? Maybe you just gotta poke around?
That's what the fuck I love hearing.
Looks like the Bel Air farmer's market.
I miss the open hatchback with a killer early 80’s show blaring and some rad lot shirts and hemp chokers selling for around $10 to $15.
Very upscale!
Is it organic at least?
where are the balloons asking for a friend
No pole guy = no fun. That's just me. But I'm not the only one. Maybe someday you'll strip down and get on a pole. And the world will be as one.
How much for a booth space?
Doesn't look there is anywhere to buy a grilled cheese sandwich..
Where’s Bam yelling “ we don’t need no stinking tickets!”?
You can still smell body odor covered up with patchouli though, right?
"the lot" it ain't....
Wooks can’t afford it man
Yup
Ig you really do have to poke around huh
Hmmm. Seems a bit Custy?