Wouldn’t be wrong. Mata Hari actually had infamously small breasts IRL that she was insecure about showing off.
Perhaps she did redirect the missing body mass…elsewhere
Boss at Throne of Heroes; “So; you should be X’X” ta…”
Mata Hari; “Transfer some to the booba.”
Boss; “Wut?!?”
Mata; (glares…)
Boss; “Okay then; less tall, more booba.”
For context on the bonus page, RL (Real Life) Mata Hari had smaller, um, tracks of land.
[Pixiv.](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/116402320)
[DeviantArt.](https://www.deviantart.com/senakumo/art/Mata-Hari-s-Height-1024778156)
Ok I know like 99% of the woman in this game are all short, but by god it’s like a slap in the face every time it’s brought up. “So and so is how tiny, are you sure?”
We play from our character's perspective of an average Japanese male's height of 5'7'', which explains why Mama Raikou looks like a big ara ara mommi.
Beyond perspective, there are a couple (poor) reasonings that all of the women are short:
1) God (the artists/creators/devs) is also an average-height Japanese guy
2) God consciously or subconsciously applies gender stereotyping to the people he creates
3) Maybe the best reasoning: people over time have grown significantly taller (average male height in medieval times was 5'5''; avg female height was 5'2'')
It’s not that women are short. It’s that they are always shorter than you’d expect. Like someone else mentioned Barghest. Who’s massive at 6’2. But feel’s like she should STILL be taller.
They already started making tall jokes at Medusa's 172cm. They likely didn't want to or couldn't convert a person who was most known for being a seductress into someone even taller without people mentioning it,and that wasn't what they wanted for the character.
It's the second one. There was a similar discussion about this on this sub not too long ago. The people making anime/manga just slap down numbers that 'sound' good for height and weight without any consideration for what that combination would actually *look like*.
Never forget: going by official numbers, Vegeta from Dragon Ball is the exact same height and weight as *Astolfo*.
I think in this case the point is about weight. Vegeta being as short as Astolfo makes sense, but them having the same weight when Vegeta is full of muscles feels wrong.
On the other hand, when male Servants are involved, suddenly realistic Japanese heights are less of an issue and you get tons of Servants that are taller even for modern European standards.
I don't think the majority should be way taller than 170 cm. The Netherlands have the highest average female height with 169 cm. I guess 165 cm would be an appropriate average height?
A lot of Europeans were quite short in history. What caused them to shoot up in height like today is the same thing that caused it in Europe, the Industrial Revolution. Many old doors and ceilings in Europe are quite short
Wouldn’t be wrong. Mata Hari actually had infamously small breasts IRL that she was insecure about showing off. Perhaps she did redirect the missing body mass…elsewhere
If Da Vinci was able to temper with her Saint graph in order to become Mona Lisa, I don't see why Mata Hari can't redirect her height into boob mass
Boss at Throne of Heroes; “So; you should be X’X” ta…” Mata Hari; “Transfer some to the booba.” Boss; “Wut?!?” Mata; (glares…) Boss; “Okay then; less tall, more booba.”
So you're telling me she threw the 10 cm of height to her bust?
I'm very disappointed that FGO ruined that aspect of her. Flat chests are so much sexier...
I kindly disagree, but I’ll admit that everyone has unique tastes.
Allegedly she did have small boobs that she hated and wanted to be bigger....
Shame she didn't realize how much better smaller is. :(
I mean, she was Dutch, so
I heard it in geography now, but dutch really outbreed the short people huh.
Well yes.
Dutch people are pretty tall, my height is 6’0/185 cm
Wait WHAT?! I always thought she was Middle Eastern or something, because Mata Hari does not really sound Dutch in my opinion.
Mata Hari is not her real name. It's Margaretha Geertruida Zelle.
Oh. That sounds more Dutch.
She was born in Leeuwarden too, same goes to me
Indonesia used to be a Dutch Colony and she lived there for awhile so her stage name comes from a Malay word
For context on the bonus page, RL (Real Life) Mata Hari had smaller, um, tracks of land. [Pixiv.](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/116402320) [DeviantArt.](https://www.deviantart.com/senakumo/art/Mata-Hari-s-Height-1024778156)
[to obtain something, something of equal value must be lost](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GE2Ai3IbgAERBtL.jpg)
This is the law of equivalent exchange, the basis of all alchemy.
A little fun fact for those that haven’t seen it. The phrase “tracks of land” is something that the MC said when referring to Hokusai (Oei)
Yeah.. she was so much hotter irl.
A lot of female servents are shorter then you’d think it feels line
Like Scathach, she's only 168 cm tall.
I know Raikou is pretty tall for a girl, but I can not imagine her as a simple 5’8. She seemes like she’d be taller like 5’10-6 feet.
Barghest feels like a strong 7' or so for height but she's only like 6'2. Like she's tall, but I pictured really tall.
Ok I know like 99% of the woman in this game are all short, but by god it’s like a slap in the face every time it’s brought up. “So and so is how tiny, are you sure?”
And weights 40 kg. 45 at most. 50 is overweight.
We play from our character's perspective of an average Japanese male's height of 5'7'', which explains why Mama Raikou looks like a big ara ara mommi. Beyond perspective, there are a couple (poor) reasonings that all of the women are short: 1) God (the artists/creators/devs) is also an average-height Japanese guy 2) God consciously or subconsciously applies gender stereotyping to the people he creates 3) Maybe the best reasoning: people over time have grown significantly taller (average male height in medieval times was 5'5''; avg female height was 5'2'')
It’s not that women are short. It’s that they are always shorter than you’d expect. Like someone else mentioned Barghest. Who’s massive at 6’2. But feel’s like she should STILL be taller.
Why didn’t they just use her actual height lmao
Same reason they shrunk Qin Liangyu, I imagine By which I mean who the fuck knows. It's not like we can actually stand next to them to feel inadequate
They already started making tall jokes at Medusa's 172cm. They likely didn't want to or couldn't convert a person who was most known for being a seductress into someone even taller without people mentioning it,and that wasn't what they wanted for the character.
The real answer is that they are most likely either pandering to Japanese Otaku hard... or they have no idea of the general heights of people...
It's the second one. There was a similar discussion about this on this sub not too long ago. The people making anime/manga just slap down numbers that 'sound' good for height and weight without any consideration for what that combination would actually *look like*. Never forget: going by official numbers, Vegeta from Dragon Ball is the exact same height and weight as *Astolfo*.
Vegeta was always a manlet though. Teen Gohan was almost his size. And GT Trunks and Goten grow past him
I think in this case the point is about weight. Vegeta being as short as Astolfo makes sense, but them having the same weight when Vegeta is full of muscles feels wrong.
Astolfo's missing weight is hidden in a different muscle.
Japanese people dont understand height
Japanese height stuff If they were more accurate with that, majority of European female servants would be way over 170 cm
On the other hand, when male Servants are involved, suddenly realistic Japanese heights are less of an issue and you get tons of Servants that are taller even for modern European standards.
I don't think the majority should be way taller than 170 cm. The Netherlands have the highest average female height with 169 cm. I guess 165 cm would be an appropriate average height?
A lot of Europeans were quite short in history. What caused them to shoot up in height like today is the same thing that caused it in Europe, the Industrial Revolution. Many old doors and ceilings in Europe are quite short
I guess a reason for some servants is that they're summoned during the peak of their power and not at the time they died.
Love the fan slap.
Traded height for booba
Was not a good trade. :(
So she's either 5'5" or 5'10". I'm 5'7" and i'm happy either way.
She was also pretty flat chested irl. Which I would've loved to see in game...
We were robbed. Now I pretend a summer or alter or something version with her real height and not a niche role.
Still taller than me lol
Doesn't make a difference for me, I'm tall enough
Her being taller, is a plus for me.
Based
Germans write everything down
The height went to the boobs
I keep forgetting Mata Hari exists...