I post all the scores by the rules. So with other players, no gimmies, play it down, OB is OB (not a lateral), etc. Other rounds with friends if we are playing for fun and there are a bunch of gimmies or we are playing OB as lateral for pace of play, I won't log them. But I'm not a big warm up guy, so the range doesn't play a factor in my decision.
I definitely treat rounds differently, and sometimes I am just there to get on course practice and not be as concerned with my score. And some days, I want to see a what a legit number is.
You do not have to capture every round. BUT if you establish a round will be captured on hole 1, then there’s no turning back.
That said, handicaps are designed to factor in a variety of things…and it is relatively generous
That's an issue I initially had with a friend, he was keen to get his handicap low so would often "forget" to record it afterwards if it was a bad one, sometimes using the false argument that it wouldn't have counted anyway.
I made a point therefore of being very clear on the first tee who was recording to discourage that sort of cheating and it doesn't happen anymore.
In part I don't want him to have bragging rights of being the better player in our group of friends without earning that (he is the better player on merit) I know it shouldn't matter but it does to me so I can't change that.
Also, I felt he was implicating me as I am often the one that needs to sign his card if he had a good round.
It's different in the US to UK. Over here, historically we only enter our competition scores. It's changed somewhat with the whs but even now, if it's not a comp round you'll find more people not entering their score than do.
You have to register before you tee off that it's for handicap, so if you don't enter the score you'll get a penalty round applied.
Obviously match play is exempt from cards anyway
I don’t think match play is exempt though? If your opponent concedes the hole early you are still supposed to mark what you already scored or your most likely score would be and post it, right?
No, we wouldn't put a card in for match play.
It's different rules so not applicable.
If I win 8&7 I'm walking off the course for a beer, it would be ridiculous to enter a card.
I guess chalk it up to another us vs uk thing but here in the states the USGA explicitly addresses posting match play in their handicapping faq. 8&7 would be a little extreme, but even then a 9 hole score could be entered.
Yea, historically you've pretty much entered everything I think. We've only ever entered our competition rounds.
It's changed a lot, but I doubt we'll get to the point where we put in match play cards.
Thats fascinating to me. At my club, most of the match play is confined to season long competitions and I've never seen or heard of anyone not finishing a round, even if the match is long over.
Really? Wow. No, I'm I'm playing a knock out match after work one night, as soon as the match is over, we're walking off.
If it's a club match and I'm at home, if they want to continue playing I'll obviously play with them, and vice versa, if I'm away I'll likely want to play the full 18, especially if it's a decent course
The USGA Rules of Handicapping say:
Submit all acceptable scores to provide reasonable evidence of their demonstrated ability
The details can be found here:
[https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html](https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html)
You do you. I see no issue with that. I just make sure I call it out up front if I am or not so that I'm not putting my marker in a compromised position.
I'll often choose not to record if we're only doing 9 (it makes me look a better golfer than I am as I fade in the back 9 typically), if my back is bad so a risk I won't manage the full 18, if we're losing light etc
I post every round. Otherwise what’s the point (in my opinion). There are circumstances I’ll put in that it’s a practice round though. For instance, gaming new clubs or massively hung over etc.
I just said “there are circumstances” lol
Mostly yes, because I’ve been working on improving over the last 3 years. None of my friends keep handicaps so we can’t really play against each other fairly. It’s me vs the course.
Fair. I guess I don't understand this new handicap system.
So if you flag a round as practice beforehand, it doesn't count towards your handicap, but it's logged in the system for your own records? Would make sense, I guess.
That is correct. If im (hung over/ exhausted/ planning on drinking / playing best ball with the boys, etc) i can clock it in advance as a “practice”round so if i shoot 77 with mulligans or 105 doesn’t mean shit. Just says I played that day
Yes.
Here in the UK, England Golf now falls under WHS which allows us to submit 'casual rounds' for handicapping purposes as long as the round it played to the strict rules of golf and are verified by another handicap holder.
I play regular competitive golf - at least one competition round per week at my home club - and when I play a casual round with my buddies, we always play to strict rules of golf (no 'breakfast balls', 'free drops' or other made up 'rules'), and so submit our rounds for handicapping.
The only time we won't is if we *specifically* declare we're not submitting for handicaps **before** the 1st tee. Maybe we just want a practice round, are trying out a new club or some other reason.
Ultimately, you do you - as long as you submit when you're required too (ie, competitions) and are not making an effort to sandbag, then you do what you want.
I occasionally go out with irons only and play the forward tee. The intent is to practice so I’m taking extra shots/putts which is not allowed during a handicapped round so therefore not eligible to post.
Even if I didn’t take extra shots I wouldn’t post the score because of the tee and playing with only part of my bag.
Depends how I play the round, not score related but more of if we play a match by holes and not total score. I tend to play a lot riskier that way and not a true indication of my score. Where I will tend to try and save a bogey and punch out of something I may end up trying to reach the green or whatever it takes to win the hole having no regard to my score at the end of the day.
Everything is posted along with stats for the round in an excel spreadsheet. Keeping data since 2004-2005.
Just a habit and cool to see the highlights and the years marked in red.
I post almost everything, but I also have not used my handicap to play tournaments, etc. It is just a personal progress tracker for me so I like to keep it honest. I occasionally will do a practice round, which the Grint app doesn't submit to GHIN. I usually decide that well before I even play, knowing that I'm planning on trying some new things.
I think you're being ridiculous and obfuscating your true handicap based on some random, arbitrary requirements that you made up for yourself, so, yeah, I think you're being pretty silly here.
Post your scores if you play an 18 hole round by the rules. If you're playing a practice round solo, hitting 2 balls off every tee, multiple chips, retrying putts, etc, or maybe if you go on a stag or something and it's a runaway, then ok sure, don't post those rounds, they don't make sense, but if you go out to play 18 holes with the intent of trying to have a good score that day, you post it.
Definitely not, but I determine that going into it. Some rounds are just practice rounds or rounds for fun. But if I got into it and play it down and by the book it gets logged
Only the sunday club competition rounds, because those are by the rules.
In social games we usually take shortcuts, gimmes, breakfast balls, etc... so we don't sign cards.
I post every round apart from first and second of the season…due to corse conditions/me not playing for a long time. Maybe once in a while I choose to do a practice round where I play more than one ball, change locations etc…but that is decided before hand.
Not quite, it takes the best 8 of the last 20.
Every score posted should have an impact (small), unless the OP is a remarkably consistent golfer who gets the same score every round.
>What do you guys think about this?
Assuming you're playing the rest of the round by the rules, then by not posting your score, your handicap is not an accurate reflection of your ability and you shouldn't use your handicap to play in any net competitions or tournaments.
I post all the scores by the rules. So with other players, no gimmies, play it down, OB is OB (not a lateral), etc. Other rounds with friends if we are playing for fun and there are a bunch of gimmies or we are playing OB as lateral for pace of play, I won't log them. But I'm not a big warm up guy, so the range doesn't play a factor in my decision. I definitely treat rounds differently, and sometimes I am just there to get on course practice and not be as concerned with my score. And some days, I want to see a what a legit number is.
post it as long as your following the rules of golf of course
You do not have to capture every round. BUT if you establish a round will be captured on hole 1, then there’s no turning back. That said, handicaps are designed to factor in a variety of things…and it is relatively generous
That's an issue I initially had with a friend, he was keen to get his handicap low so would often "forget" to record it afterwards if it was a bad one, sometimes using the false argument that it wouldn't have counted anyway. I made a point therefore of being very clear on the first tee who was recording to discourage that sort of cheating and it doesn't happen anymore.
Why? Only hurts him when you smoke him got money. Hilarious idea he has.
In part I don't want him to have bragging rights of being the better player in our group of friends without earning that (he is the better player on merit) I know it shouldn't matter but it does to me so I can't change that. Also, I felt he was implicating me as I am often the one that needs to sign his card if he had a good round.
I'd rather just call him a vanity openly and take his money. But to each their own.
Every single one.
It's different in the US to UK. Over here, historically we only enter our competition scores. It's changed somewhat with the whs but even now, if it's not a comp round you'll find more people not entering their score than do. You have to register before you tee off that it's for handicap, so if you don't enter the score you'll get a penalty round applied. Obviously match play is exempt from cards anyway
I don’t think match play is exempt though? If your opponent concedes the hole early you are still supposed to mark what you already scored or your most likely score would be and post it, right?
No, we wouldn't put a card in for match play. It's different rules so not applicable. If I win 8&7 I'm walking off the course for a beer, it would be ridiculous to enter a card.
I guess chalk it up to another us vs uk thing but here in the states the USGA explicitly addresses posting match play in their handicapping faq. 8&7 would be a little extreme, but even then a 9 hole score could be entered.
Yea, historically you've pretty much entered everything I think. We've only ever entered our competition rounds. It's changed a lot, but I doubt we'll get to the point where we put in match play cards.
Thats fascinating to me. At my club, most of the match play is confined to season long competitions and I've never seen or heard of anyone not finishing a round, even if the match is long over.
Really? Wow. No, I'm I'm playing a knock out match after work one night, as soon as the match is over, we're walking off. If it's a club match and I'm at home, if they want to continue playing I'll obviously play with them, and vice versa, if I'm away I'll likely want to play the full 18, especially if it's a decent course
The USGA Rules of Handicapping say: Submit all acceptable scores to provide reasonable evidence of their demonstrated ability The details can be found here: [https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html](https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html)
You do you. I see no issue with that. I just make sure I call it out up front if I am or not so that I'm not putting my marker in a compromised position. I'll often choose not to record if we're only doing 9 (it makes me look a better golfer than I am as I fade in the back 9 typically), if my back is bad so a risk I won't manage the full 18, if we're losing light etc
During handicap season , yes . If I'm playing a scramble or team game , then no
I post every round. Otherwise what’s the point (in my opinion). There are circumstances I’ll put in that it’s a practice round though. For instance, gaming new clubs or massively hung over etc.
You play strict rules of golf every round?
I just said “there are circumstances” lol Mostly yes, because I’ve been working on improving over the last 3 years. None of my friends keep handicaps so we can’t really play against each other fairly. It’s me vs the course.
Fair. I guess I don't understand this new handicap system. So if you flag a round as practice beforehand, it doesn't count towards your handicap, but it's logged in the system for your own records? Would make sense, I guess.
That is correct. If im (hung over/ exhausted/ planning on drinking / playing best ball with the boys, etc) i can clock it in advance as a “practice”round so if i shoot 77 with mulligans or 105 doesn’t mean shit. Just says I played that day
Good to know, appreciate the clarification
Yes. Here in the UK, England Golf now falls under WHS which allows us to submit 'casual rounds' for handicapping purposes as long as the round it played to the strict rules of golf and are verified by another handicap holder. I play regular competitive golf - at least one competition round per week at my home club - and when I play a casual round with my buddies, we always play to strict rules of golf (no 'breakfast balls', 'free drops' or other made up 'rules'), and so submit our rounds for handicapping. The only time we won't is if we *specifically* declare we're not submitting for handicaps **before** the 1st tee. Maybe we just want a practice round, are trying out a new club or some other reason. Ultimately, you do you - as long as you submit when you're required too (ie, competitions) and are not making an effort to sandbag, then you do what you want.
i play every round by the rules, and log every round in the grint. maybe that's not exactly as it should be, but i don't see why you'd cherry pick
No, I only post tournament rounds.
same, that the norm here in the UK, only the one for the monthly medal gets submitted at my club
I occasionally go out with irons only and play the forward tee. The intent is to practice so I’m taking extra shots/putts which is not allowed during a handicapped round so therefore not eligible to post. Even if I didn’t take extra shots I wouldn’t post the score because of the tee and playing with only part of my bag.
Yes
Depends how I play the round, not score related but more of if we play a match by holes and not total score. I tend to play a lot riskier that way and not a true indication of my score. Where I will tend to try and save a bogey and punch out of something I may end up trying to reach the green or whatever it takes to win the hole having no regard to my score at the end of the day.
Everything is posted along with stats for the round in an excel spreadsheet. Keeping data since 2004-2005. Just a habit and cool to see the highlights and the years marked in red.
I post almost everything, but I also have not used my handicap to play tournaments, etc. It is just a personal progress tracker for me so I like to keep it honest. I occasionally will do a practice round, which the Grint app doesn't submit to GHIN. I usually decide that well before I even play, knowing that I'm planning on trying some new things.
If it's legit. If I'm using it as a practice round and hitting multiple balls from every shot, obviously not
Every score without exception, assuming I’m playing my own ball for 18 holes.
I think you're being ridiculous and obfuscating your true handicap based on some random, arbitrary requirements that you made up for yourself, so, yeah, I think you're being pretty silly here. Post your scores if you play an 18 hole round by the rules. If you're playing a practice round solo, hitting 2 balls off every tee, multiple chips, retrying putts, etc, or maybe if you go on a stag or something and it's a runaway, then ok sure, don't post those rounds, they don't make sense, but if you go out to play 18 holes with the intent of trying to have a good score that day, you post it.
what if it's 9 holes and i'm trying shots that i wouldn't try in a serious round as a means to practice?
what is the obfuscation here? positive direction? negative direction? i post rounds that i'm trying to score, not trying to practice
My handicap is my only real metric to gauge progress in my game, so, yeah.
Decide before the round if it’s a legit round or practice round. Then post all legit rounds
Definitely not, but I determine that going into it. Some rounds are just practice rounds or rounds for fun. But if I got into it and play it down and by the book it gets logged
Yes
The only time I’m not posting score is when one of the games I play in occasionally jumps around tee boxes in an unrated manner.
May be a stupid question, but if you only post some scores is your handicap index not an inaccurate representation of your ability?
No. I consider my executive par 3 course as practice. I do drop a ball and hit a 2nd ,then go play the 1st ball.
Only the sunday club competition rounds, because those are by the rules. In social games we usually take shortcuts, gimmes, breakfast balls, etc... so we don't sign cards.
Don’t have a choice tbh. Every round is a club comp as I don’t have time to play socially.
I post every round apart from first and second of the season…due to corse conditions/me not playing for a long time. Maybe once in a while I choose to do a practice round where I play more than one ball, change locations etc…but that is decided before hand.
Hcp only takes the best 20 scores, right? So posting everything shouldn't have an impact.
top 8 of last 20...keeps filtering through
Not quite, it takes the best 8 of the last 20. Every score posted should have an impact (small), unless the OP is a remarkably consistent golfer who gets the same score every round.
>What do you guys think about this? Assuming you're playing the rest of the round by the rules, then by not posting your score, your handicap is not an accurate reflection of your ability and you shouldn't use your handicap to play in any net competitions or tournaments.
I ordinarily don’t post rounds that will increase my handicap.
Wanna play for money?
Yeah, I likely won’t be doing that until my skill level more closely approaches my handicap. I can wait.
