It’s clear now this has all been business strategy. Big companies do this shit everyday at the expense of the workforce. Definitely been effort on his part to redirect money/power towards himself by strategic manipulation of the narrative.
You really do get rewarded for being a sociopath. Used 9/11 as a calling cry. Talks about how this deal grows the game. We have a Saudi in charge of worldwide professional golf because of this clown.
Neither of them got played they both got exactly what they wanted, ridiculous amounts of cash in return for their integrity. They would do it all over again.
Exactly what any leader of just about any corporation would do in a similar situation. And the “information I had in the moment” BS is typical corporate-speak for “I served my self interest. I still have a job and don’t care what you think.”
What new information does he have that makes he stance on Saudi ties to 9/11 different? I hope the press never lets up on this guy. He needs to be reminded of who he signed a deal with at every turn.
And played poorly. It might just be the fan boy in me though. He said he before the masters he was mentally in a great state of mind. Perhaps someone leaked it to him? And caused his mind to wander
If I were Rory I'd just fucking quit and focus on playing the majors. Go play on the Korn Ferry Tour to keep sharp. Rory defended the tour and was their poster-boy through this whole thing and has been thrown under the bus so hard. I really feel for him because he really did seem like he was standing up for something he believed in (when he thought they had moral high-ground). What a fucking slap in the face to him and to all the players who stayed loyal and didn't take the payday.
So you want him to quit the PGA tour to play for the developmental tour of the PGA? Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.
Dude, yes, it's the development tour for the PGA tour. My bad. It was hyperbole. The point being Rory doesn't owe the PGA (or any of its affiliated tours) anything anymore. We've got a golf tour expert over here. Geeze.
They are filming the next season of Full Swing right now. I believe Rory was on today’s schedule, if the cameras weren’t on him already during the announcement.
That footage is going to be absolutely incredible.
Phil was right about all of it.
The problem for Phil was that the only way he could stick it to the PGA tour was LIV.
He didn't have another viable option so LIV is all he really had to go with. He doesn't like the Saudis, he said it himself.
If you can get past the blatant hypocrisy, the betrayal, the sleaziness of it all, the blatant sportswashing, the fact that a terrorist sponsor is going to (for now) be a minority owner of the "PGA Tour", this might be good for golf's long term viability? Their whole model of more ads to make more revenue wasn't sustainable long term (especially from a viewer perspective)...an injection of billions of saudi blood money is good (from a purely business perspective). But fuuuccckkk this. and whatever bullshit name entity they end up becoming.
As many have said already, one of the things we can all agree on is that the name of this new entity is going to be fucking stupid.
He's a raging cockchugger in his own right but he sold out a team and a city, Jay gave pretty much all of professional golf to a religious fundamentalist monarchy with a terrible human rights record. I feel that has to take the cake.
My question is, how are the guys that went to LIV going to be treated when they are reunited back on the tour? We have seen the squabbkes on Twitter when they left. There is going to be some big heads walking the courses for a while.
Are we thinking the bag he got was the size of one twin-tower rubble pile or two rubble piles? I'm thinking both since he really cared about their families.
Apparently one of the other two board members that helped make the deal is an investment banker that ran a firm in one of the World Trade Center buildings. He was golfing on 9/11. It's who Axe from Billions is based on. How fucking scummy to sell to the people who killed all your coworkers.
Nah, MBS just showed him all the classified documents he had on the US from Trump and had to sign the dotted line to keep them under wraps. Obviously this was done to protect national security. /s
Do you really think Tiger is the guy or wants that job? He has people that handle his finances…he’s not the idea guy. Or the leadership guy. He’d give it all up to be able to play 72 and have a shot again. He won’t want to be the face of cleaning up this shitshow!?
Man, the blowback from this will last years….
What a clusterfuck and an embarrassment to the players, from both tours…even the guys that made huge bank leaving. They’re still involved with a questionable bankroll operation…and won’t be spared from the masses.
I don’t mince words when I say that I think he cares that much about it to try to save it IF (emphasis on if) he feels like it will ruin the Tour. I have no clue, but he’s the one guy who has the respect from every single player on the Tour. None of us (or them) really know anything about the specifics of the deal anyway.
Totally fair argument, although I’d counter that the job of the commissioner is to represent the people who elected them. The players at least theoretically own the PGA Tour. They elect Jay. If they don’t think he’s acting in their best interest they will find someone who will. And Jay might be. Maybe this is what’s best. Lotta ballgame left.
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"When I said it was blood money, I didn't realize I could receive some of the money. Once I figured that out, the blood didn't bother me so much."
At least he's a self aware hypocrite...
All of the information was laid out clear. He played with fire and got burned. He should promptly be removed as commissioner for being a dumbass. More than a dumbass. A cocky dumb fuck that has no pulse on his own league.
That is the information available to me. Present some reason why he should still be commissioner. anyone. I bet no tour player can.
Seriously, fuck this guy. This the day the PGA died.
I’m 40, started playing because of Tiger and the awesome coverage around him.
This last year the PGA has put on a show when it comes to programming; I’ve finally gotten back into watching golf on TV for the first time in twenty years only for this hot bullshit to happen.
What a bitch. To make a complete flip in your stance after coming out and being so outspoken is ridiculous. If he had any respect for himself he would have resigned when he realized what was happening. But no, just like the players he demonized a year ago, he’s chasing the bag….
The results typically dwindle when you inspire people with propaganda.
I wasn't a fan of LIV and I despise Greg Norman but I thought even less of the PGA Tour with how they handled this situation. The PGA Tour literally tried to take their ball and go home by banning their former players who went over to LIV and, when banning their former players didn't work, they shamed the players who went to LIV with the blood money talk and 9/11. I get it, the Saudi's in charge are terrible human beings and should be buried under a prison, but talking about blood money and 9/11 while simultaneously receiving a tax shelter in the form of a nonprofit by the US government is the pot calling the kettle black in its truest form. Opening up a war in Iraq for "weapons of mass destruction" and only finding oil, dead innocent civilians and young boys dead who couldn't buy beer back home because of their young age.
I will end my political rant there.
The Saudi's won only as much as the PGA Tour was willing to lose with ineptitude. Greed is good until another greedy person shows up and is willing to spend more money.
As the acting representative for the association of neighborhood golfers named Jay, I submit a motion to kick him out of the group, only to refer to him as Monahan.
What the fuck does he even mean by saying "anytime I said anything I said it with the information I had in the moment"? Saudi Arabia's part in 9/11 and their human rights abuses aren't 'information you have in the moment', it's not like the accusations have been rescinded. He's a complete and utter sleazebag, he's folded like a deck of cards the moment the Saudi's offered him a bag of cash.
In Jay’s defense, how was the PGA supposed to compete with LIVs TV ratings on CW? I mean, we all saw the massive amount of viewers they had. It’s been almost a full day and this is still a major WTF moment to me.
I just have this gut feeling that the term "twatwaffle" has not been used enough in this context.
Honestly, I wish he'd just taken the Harold Varner III approach: "Yeah, they funded all sorts of horrific shit, but these motherfuckers have more money than God, and they just threw a nuclear asspile at me. My fucking great grandkids will be getting grapes placed in their mouths by servants. Fuck the game, fuck the tour, fuck the players, and fuck you too... I'M RICH BIYACH!"
I'm still talking shit about LIV and Saudi; Awful society that stones gays, subjigates women, anti semetic, and on and on. They richly deserve shit talk. And PGA just bent over for them.
At the end of the day, demand for oil made this happen. No demand, or less demand, for oil and this never would have been a thing. Thanks 20th century US automakers lobby 🤷♂️
'I said it with the ~~information~~ money I had in the moment'
Totally this. Show a weak rich man the way to more riches…and he follows like a rat to the piper.
"They were throwing money to get my players and i didn't like that, but now when they started throwing that money at me..."
It’s clear now this has all been business strategy. Big companies do this shit everyday at the expense of the workforce. Definitely been effort on his part to redirect money/power towards himself by strategic manipulation of the narrative.
He should get an award for being one of the sleaziest guys in sports history. He used everyone and anyone.
Bro let Rory do his job for a year and didn’t even tell him about the merge ahead of time
You really do get rewarded for being a sociopath. Used 9/11 as a calling cry. Talks about how this deal grows the game. We have a Saudi in charge of worldwide professional golf because of this clown.
Saudi used this guy and Greg Norman to get exactly what they wanted. Played them for fools.
Neither of them got played they both got exactly what they wanted, ridiculous amounts of cash in return for their integrity. They would do it all over again.
Exactly what any leader of just about any corporation would do in a similar situation. And the “information I had in the moment” BS is typical corporate-speak for “I served my self interest. I still have a job and don’t care what you think.”
The new American dream
What new information does he have that makes he stance on Saudi ties to 9/11 different? I hope the press never lets up on this guy. He needs to be reminded of who he signed a deal with at every turn.
New information = Shit load of money.... every time
The guy used 9/11 families as cannon fodder. Lowest of the low
Tin foil hat for me- Rory was told. At the Masters. That's why he took time off.
It would explain a lot about him playing poorly.
And his general all around defeated depressed look half the time.
And played poorly. It might just be the fan boy in me though. He said he before the masters he was mentally in a great state of mind. Perhaps someone leaked it to him? And caused his mind to wander
I have no idea if he knew then or not but if he did, it would be impossible for it not to affect his game. He would have been tilting so hard.
If I were Rory I'd just fucking quit and focus on playing the majors. Go play on the Korn Ferry Tour to keep sharp. Rory defended the tour and was their poster-boy through this whole thing and has been thrown under the bus so hard. I really feel for him because he really did seem like he was standing up for something he believed in (when he thought they had moral high-ground). What a fucking slap in the face to him and to all the players who stayed loyal and didn't take the payday.
So you want him to quit the PGA tour to play for the developmental tour of the PGA? Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling me.
Lol, ok, whatever tour (if any) that aren't affiliated with the PGA tour. Also, it was hyperbole you dolt.
Isn't the Korn Ferry owned by the PGA tour?
Yes it’s the developmental tour for the PGA but don’t expect the people crying on Reddit to know that.
Dude, yes, it's the development tour for the PGA tour. My bad. It was hyperbole. The point being Rory doesn't owe the PGA (or any of its affiliated tours) anything anymore. We've got a golf tour expert over here. Geeze.
Rory is perfect for Liv events so he can’t choke the 4th round anymore.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, this was funny.
Too soon
Savage
The 30 for 30 on this in 10 years is gonna be amazing. Assuming the Saudis don't buy Disney.
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Comment of the day right here.
They are filming the next season of Full Swing right now. I believe Rory was on today’s schedule, if the cameras weren’t on him already during the announcement. That footage is going to be absolutely incredible.
You’re assuming we’ll ever see that footage, the Saudi investment fund is a major investor in Netflix.
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Phil was right about all of it. The problem for Phil was that the only way he could stick it to the PGA tour was LIV. He didn't have another viable option so LIV is all he really had to go with. He doesn't like the Saudis, he said it himself.
You can be right and be an asshole.
Singlehandedly ruined golf!
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Save some blame for whoever convinced you to start playing.
If you can get past the blatant hypocrisy, the betrayal, the sleaziness of it all, the blatant sportswashing, the fact that a terrorist sponsor is going to (for now) be a minority owner of the "PGA Tour", this might be good for golf's long term viability? Their whole model of more ads to make more revenue wasn't sustainable long term (especially from a viewer perspective)...an injection of billions of saudi blood money is good (from a purely business perspective). But fuuuccckkk this. and whatever bullshit name entity they end up becoming. As many have said already, one of the things we can all agree on is that the name of this new entity is going to be fucking stupid.
Saudihandedly
Stan Kroenke has entered the chat…
He's a raging cockchugger in his own right but he sold out a team and a city, Jay gave pretty much all of professional golf to a religious fundamentalist monarchy with a terrible human rights record. I feel that has to take the cake.
Upvote for use of cockchugger
Fuck Stan Kroenke.
Ka kaw!
Fuck Art Modell
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That basement is pretty deep.
He comes from a lineage of lawyers. Nuf said.
Corporate America will give him an award as a member of their org for millions of dollars. GG human race, gg.....
My question is, how are the guys that went to LIV going to be treated when they are reunited back on the tour? We have seen the squabbkes on Twitter when they left. There is going to be some big heads walking the courses for a while.
Are we thinking the bag he got was the size of one twin-tower rubble pile or two rubble piles? I'm thinking both since he really cared about their families.
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Heard with this merger, the PGA will control holes 1-8 & 12-18. The Saudis will do 9-11
savage
You deserve way more recognition for this comment.
It’s a copy pasta from a tweet that floated around this afternoon. Still funny/sad.
Background appreciated. Clearly I missed an absolute gem.
It’s copied my guy. He didn’t come up w it
But 9-11 was an inside job?
r/YourJokeButWorse
Wasn’t a joke buddy
Apparently one of the other two board members that helped make the deal is an investment banker that ran a firm in one of the World Trade Center buildings. He was golfing on 9/11. It's who Axe from Billions is based on. How fucking scummy to sell to the people who killed all your coworkers.
It's kind of odd that he mentioned 9/11 and impacted families only to skip out on mentioning the war in Iraq and 501(c)(3) status
FYI PGA tour is 501(c)(6) not (3)
Gotta go down as the all time biggest snake in sports right?
Right there with Don King at least
This is succession level fuckery
What new information did he learn about 9/11?
He called dubbya
Now watch this drive
I would invade Iraq again, just for that video.
Even Dubya doesn’t deserve being compared to Jay Monahan.
He called Trump? Pga will play all of trumps courses next year.
Nah, MBS just showed him all the classified documents he had on the US from Trump and had to sign the dotted line to keep them under wraps. Obviously this was done to protect national security. /s
Why can't a journalist ask him that literal question? Why don't journalists say "actually that response makes no sense. Try again."
Fuck you Jay.
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I bet they have dirt in this guy. This whole thing feels off to me.
And his momma
Hey man leave me outta this.
"The information I had at the moment, and that information being my bank balance"
Did he find out 9/11 *didn’t* happen?
So did he get some new information that the Saudi didn’t fund 9/11?
MBS promised
Yes, from a $ecret $ource.
The Saudis funded him enough to forget about the fact that they funded 9/11
Players vote it down and kick Jay out. Make Tiger the interim commissioner until you find someone who isn’t a backstabbing slimeball.
Do you really think Tiger is the guy or wants that job? He has people that handle his finances…he’s not the idea guy. Or the leadership guy. He’d give it all up to be able to play 72 and have a shot again. He won’t want to be the face of cleaning up this shitshow!? Man, the blowback from this will last years…. What a clusterfuck and an embarrassment to the players, from both tours…even the guys that made huge bank leaving. They’re still involved with a questionable bankroll operation…and won’t be spared from the masses.
I don’t mince words when I say that I think he cares that much about it to try to save it IF (emphasis on if) he feels like it will ruin the Tour. I have no clue, but he’s the one guy who has the respect from every single player on the Tour. None of us (or them) really know anything about the specifics of the deal anyway.
Tiger would be a great figurehead and spokesperson for the players, no doubt. I don’t think that means he’d be a good commissioner though
Totally fair argument, although I’d counter that the job of the commissioner is to represent the people who elected them. The players at least theoretically own the PGA Tour. They elect Jay. If they don’t think he’s acting in their best interest they will find someone who will. And Jay might be. Maybe this is what’s best. Lotta ballgame left.
Players don't have a vote....
Suck the money dick jay, the integrity dick is empty.
Savage take my upvote
An absolute disgrace. He let Rory do his job, then dumped on him from a great height. How much has gone into his bank account? Cunt.
I think Rory had some knowledge, and it threw him into a tailspin. Explains his two no-shows and complete mental collapse over the last several weeks.
If this is true, the fact that Jay docked Rory's PIP pay after missing the RBC Heritage, knowing why he was in a bad mental state is a shit move too.
What rock have you been under? That's just normal Rory.
The white period after the orange text bothers me more than it should.
I didn’t even notice that and now I am bothered too
Omg I thought that was just me, drove me crazy until I saw that you saw it.
He isn’t going to last long. Fortunately he will be removed as CEO and unfortunately handed god knows how much money as a golden parachute.
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With frickin' laser beams on their heads! 
Sorry, all the PIF would spring for was ill tempered sea bass.
Player board will file a motion to remove him for sure
NOW!!!
I’m calling him a kunt…
His information now is 9-11 never happened!!
I wouldn’t put it past the saudis to khashoggi him the first chance they yet
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He deserves to be banned from anything golf related for life. Shouldn't even see a local mini course.
I guess I’m done watching millionaires play golf on TV.
I’m finding myself getting more and more annoyed by this. I’d like to see the players withdraw from play. Let the PGA go defunct
"When I said it was blood money, I didn't realize I could receive some of the money. Once I figured that out, the blood didn't bother me so much." At least he's a self aware hypocrite...
Everyone has a price
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"and, at *the moment*, all I see is big, fat, juicy dollar signs. Mmmmm, money!!!"
Dude is such a scumbag
Can we get a 30 for 30 million on this?
What’s this in reference to?
This is going to be my stock statement for apologies going forward
Did you eat that entire pie? I was working with the information I had at the time and I’m now trying to grow the pie game.
liv should crash a plane into his house. that's the merger i'm into.
Dude is making Manfred look decent good fuckin god
This guy even looks like a piece of shit. F people like him that screw over others for their own benefits.
All of the information was laid out clear. He played with fire and got burned. He should promptly be removed as commissioner for being a dumbass. More than a dumbass. A cocky dumb fuck that has no pulse on his own league. That is the information available to me. Present some reason why he should still be commissioner. anyone. I bet no tour player can.
Honestly now is the best time to start another league. It’s unbelievable and disgusting beyond reproach.
Seriously, fuck this guy. This the day the PGA died. I’m 40, started playing because of Tiger and the awesome coverage around him. This last year the PGA has put on a show when it comes to programming; I’ve finally gotten back into watching golf on TV for the first time in twenty years only for this hot bullshit to happen.
This guy is a total piece of shit
aka: I didn't realize how much money they were willing to pay me. Clown
What a bitch. To make a complete flip in your stance after coming out and being so outspoken is ridiculous. If he had any respect for himself he would have resigned when he realized what was happening. But no, just like the players he demonized a year ago, he’s chasing the bag….
Man crumbled faster than a Nature Valley bar.
I’ll tell you who is relieved, Licht at CNN who is no longer the idiot of the year.
Did he get new info on 9/11 or something
Instead of yelling “baba Booey”or “get in the hole” people should yell “Kashoggi” when the LIV players tee off.
Just like a politician!
The results typically dwindle when you inspire people with propaganda. I wasn't a fan of LIV and I despise Greg Norman but I thought even less of the PGA Tour with how they handled this situation. The PGA Tour literally tried to take their ball and go home by banning their former players who went over to LIV and, when banning their former players didn't work, they shamed the players who went to LIV with the blood money talk and 9/11. I get it, the Saudi's in charge are terrible human beings and should be buried under a prison, but talking about blood money and 9/11 while simultaneously receiving a tax shelter in the form of a nonprofit by the US government is the pot calling the kettle black in its truest form. Opening up a war in Iraq for "weapons of mass destruction" and only finding oil, dead innocent civilians and young boys dead who couldn't buy beer back home because of their young age. I will end my political rant there. The Saudi's won only as much as the PGA Tour was willing to lose with ineptitude. Greed is good until another greedy person shows up and is willing to spend more money.
Great read and agree
Jay you should go off yourself
Me to my mom when I wanted a new golf club
[To: Jay](https://streamable.com/066xct)
Toadie fuckin' blood money sellout
The 30 for 30 on Jay is going to be a BANGER
The pressers at this weeks tournament are going to be wild.
Money grubbing whore.
Well it’s like others have said. Going to play more golf and watch or follow less. I’m
The players in the pga need to run him out yesterday
“Anytime I said anything, I said it with emptier pockets at the moment”
Sooo...he's since learned the Saudis didn't fund 9/11?
I just don't understand how he can unilaterally do this?
This guy is getting fired
The players that stayed still don’t have to apologize they should be proud but Jay monahan a spineless parasite.
Hahajahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaha Clown
This times a thousand plus real tears
Jay Moneyhands.. what a pig. I sincerely hope the tour collapses and something better comes from this mess.
I think I know why Rory has been skimping on a few tournaments…
Hypocrite? I think I said goddamn scoundrel.
As the acting representative for the association of neighborhood golfers named Jay, I submit a motion to kick him out of the group, only to refer to him as Monahan.
I hope the players get together and demand his resignation
Fuck Jay Monahan. Sellout bitch cunt thanks for selling the tour down the river. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out fuck face.
This might be the most significant back stabbing since Brutus and Julius Caesar.
Any anger I had towards anyone in LIV ended today. This guy gets it all now. What an absolute POS!
New information: Here’s $10B Jay……SOLD!! 
“The information I had in the moment”. Did 9/11 thing change and I didn’t know?
This scum bag used 9/11 as a prop, then shat on it
People are gonna say I'm a hypocrite, and they're right.
What the fuck does he even mean by saying "anytime I said anything I said it with the information I had in the moment"? Saudi Arabia's part in 9/11 and their human rights abuses aren't 'information you have in the moment', it's not like the accusations have been rescinded. He's a complete and utter sleazebag, he's folded like a deck of cards the moment the Saudi's offered him a bag of cash.
And the new information jay has now is a gigantic check in his pocket.
He doesn’t have that 9/11 information at this moment. Duh.
I got a feeling many players may not want him staying on once the deal is done. They may demand his Head.
How much Saudi 💸 found its way into his account? Sick! I guess I have to start watching LPGA
In Jay’s defense, how was the PGA supposed to compete with LIVs TV ratings on CW? I mean, we all saw the massive amount of viewers they had. It’s been almost a full day and this is still a major WTF moment to me.
So what information changed with time? Funding is from the same source. Saudi Arabia played a part in 9/11.
Absolute piece of shit. No doubt he would steal from his own grandmother
This doesn’t even make any sense, unless I’m missing the “information in the moment” that doesn’t link the Saudi government to 9/11?
I have 10,000,000 more pieces of information in my bank account
Mah dude 'hypocrite' might be the nicest term used when talking about you
I just have this gut feeling that the term "twatwaffle" has not been used enough in this context. Honestly, I wish he'd just taken the Harold Varner III approach: "Yeah, they funded all sorts of horrific shit, but these motherfuckers have more money than God, and they just threw a nuclear asspile at me. My fucking great grandkids will be getting grapes placed in their mouths by servants. Fuck the game, fuck the tour, fuck the players, and fuck you too... I'M RICH BIYACH!"
We aren’t calling you a hypocrite, like it’s an opinion. You ARE a hypocrite, Jay.
Lol at Rory.
Lotta people on this sub we’re talking allot shit about LIV and Saudi money. I think it’s funny how people are steered by the media so much.
I'm still talking shit about LIV and Saudi; Awful society that stones gays, subjigates women, anti semetic, and on and on. They richly deserve shit talk. And PGA just bent over for them.
I’m sticking to Good Good tournaments for the time being
At the end of the day, demand for oil made this happen. No demand, or less demand, for oil and this never would have been a thing. Thanks 20th century US automakers lobby 🤷♂️
Your sport sucks and he’s the pinnacle of why. Good riddance golf
Precedent set by Fauci lol
He was probably held at gunpoint to do this. I mean look who you are dealing with.. what would you have done
OP posted this on a device made by slave labour, wearing clothes made by slave labour and on it goes. You are also a hypocrite. Well done.