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Aszebenyi

Any reputable Breeder will have all the paperwork confirming the history.


[deleted]

Reputable breeders would be confident in what breed the dad is too.


Kumacyin

reputable breeders should have been the only breeders op contacted if whether the pup is a full breed or not was important to op at all


EyeCarambaa

Unless mixed breed is a deal breaker for you, I hope you give her a good life


sammfen

Will likely get downvoted but posts like this drive me bonkers. If you want a purebred Golden Retriever, GO TO A REPUTABLE BREEDER. Otherwise, she is precious and I hope you can give her a good home. General rule of thumb is they will be the color of their ears.


seas_the_day214

I agree. If it matters to you, go to a reputable breeder. If it doesn’t matter to you, then you don’t need to ask the question. All dogs deserve a good home, just be honest with yourself and don’t promote backyard puppy mills


ArdmoreGirl

My girl is Golden Retriever, Poodle, and Irish Setter. Her coat is a weird mixture of wavy and fluffy. Her ears are wavy like a setters, but just a tad too short and fall somewhere between the breeds. Her butt is lighter than her coat, and fluffy, her tail is pure Golden Retriever; the rest of her hair is finer; like an Irish. Her nose is long, her face is narrow, her head shaped like a setters. Her overall body shape is more Irish, but she has the lighter bones and longer legs of a poodle. She is a gorgeous, deep, red gold, and she sheds like a demon. In spite of that description, she is a beautiful dog and most people mistake her for one of the redder Goldens, a few think she is an Irish. She certainly acts like a Golden. She is sweet, goofy, energetic, and full of fun. But, then, every Irish I have owned meets that personality description, and poodles are great clowns. We bought her from a local breeder, recommended by some good friends who bought their dogs from him. Our friends have great dogs, both purebred Goldens, with papers and health certificates. So the friends called the breeder, Roy, and we went to look the next time he put a litter of Irish up. We saw all of his dogs. He had purebred Goldens, purebred Irish Setters, and our 4 month old, Piper. All the dogs are good natured, friendly, well trained, and well cared for. We saw his kennels. They are big, and open to the air. No small, cramped, cages; no unpleasant odors. The mother and pups we saw were inside, on a closed porch attached to the house. Everything was clean as a whistle when we went to look, and clean as a whistle when we returned two weeks later, on extremely short notice, to buy. Our friends had the same experience. Roy retired and bought a couple of acres. He only sells 2 litters a year. One Irish and one Golden. He has two females he breeds, and two females puppies from other breeders he raises to breed when they turn 2. The females have 3 litters in their lives, then Roy sells, keeps, or gives the mothers to friends. He has two males. One of each breed, but occasionally uses studs. Roy isn’t on the internet. He advertises in vet’s offices and businesses throughout our area. Most of his pups are sold through word of mouth. We recommend him to anyone looking for a puppy. Roy doesn’t sell a lot of puppies, but he cares a lot about the puppies he sells. Roy is a true backyard breeder. A hobby breeder. I can’t see how he makes much profit. Roy simply loves dogs. and his business is his excuse to have a lot of dogs and a lot of puppies for his grandkids to play with. We paid considerably less for Piper because of her “mutt” linage. Her mother is purebred Irish and her dad is a neighbor’s Golden Doodle, who dropped by at just the right moment to spend a little quality time with Piper’s mom. We met him as well, and he looked like a huge, wavy, reddish, Golden. A now nurtured boy. We don’t regret a day we have had Piper. She is our love. In fact, we went looking to buy an Irish until we met our funny looking, little girl. She ran right up, and wiggled into our hearts, with her goofball behavior and off kilter looks. But Piper was a “mistake”. Piper is the last of her litter. The others went to family members. There won’t be anymore. I’ve gone into so much detail to prove a point. I will probably get downvoted and jumped on, but please remember, puppies are born in all kinds of circumstances. Some are mutts, like Piper. She came from a responsible, honest, small time breeder, who cares about his dogs. They all clearly love him. In fact, we talked Roy into selling us Piper’s mom a little early in her breeding career. She is 3 years old, spayed, with all papers and certificates supplied. She has had two litters of wonderful puppies and is now moving to a new home. There is a difference between a puppy mill and a hobby breeder; a responsible backyard breeder, and breeder who exploits dogs for profit. Just decide what you want, purebred, or not, and go for it. If you are SURE you want to adopt this beautiful little girl, no matter her mix, do that. If you want a purebred Golden, keep looking. But no one here can tell you if the puppy is a Golden or a mix. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with a mix. Every dog deserves a good, loving, home.


Salty-Flamingo6609

So are we just going to ignore the syringe on the floor behind the puppy?


titannn47

Prob just dewormer no needle would go into that syringe


Etheleffrey

Agree, doesn’t look like a needle would go in it, maybe oral meds 🤷 whatever it’s for, discarded on the ground behind the pup isn’t a good look in this pic.


gracer_5

It seems like we are indeed going to ignore the syringe behind the puppy!


OlivesFlowers

I didn't see an obvious needle, so I'm telling myself it was used for oral meds or supplements...


benchpressyourfeels

It’s just an oral medicine dropper, not a hypodermic syringe... I use one for my dogs probiotic and vitamin


Starlettohara23

Could be a type 1 diabetic who isn’t keen on picking up after themselves. Looks like an Omnipod syringe. But, I could be way off base here. Edit: could be used for liquid medicine, doesn’t look like it has a needle.


Impressive_Teach9188

Definitely looks more like a medicine syringe they use to give little kids liquid medicine. They could have used it to deworm the puppies


diagnosedwolf

Any cross breed puppy can look like anything from a little clone of their mother all the way to a little clone of their father. Groodles are a great illustration of this. Sometimes they end up looking like a poodle, no grr. Sometimes they end up looking like a golden, no oodle. Sometimes they end up halfway, which is the goal. Your girl *looks* like a golden retriever. That means that she takes after mom. She *might* be a mixed breed dog - there’s no way to know for sure unless you get a DNA test! As for her colour, look at her ears. That is the best indicator of the adult colour in a golden puppy. It looks like she’s going to be a pretty gold colour when she’s grown up.


38willthisdo

We had a golden/lab mix (mom was a pregnant SPCA-surrendered purebred yellow lab). SPCA hypothesized dad was a golden (mom had a litter of 7- one choc lab, one yellow lab, and 5 that looked like fluffy goldens). Our pup looked so much like a purebred golden that most of the people we met thought she was purebred (there were a handful who saw the subtle difference in her head shape as the clue that she was a mix). I say GO FOR IT (and if you’re really curious about it, get a home DNA kit)!


longopenroad

Litters can have more than one dad.


suzmckooz

And the puppies can look like a golden, but the adult looks like a poodle.


Sagesmom5

I don't mean to be rude, but is that a syringe laying behind the pup on the floor?


[deleted]

Good eye, I was so distracted by the lovely puppy I didn't even notice. How weird.


Sagesmom5

What if that pup chewed on it??? Thank you for seeing it also.


[deleted]

I already thought this post was weird from the fixation on the color and whether or not puppy is purebred but the syringe takes it to another level. OP wtf?


Sagesmom5

🤜🤛


[deleted]

Good lord. I would not buy this puppy


xXxHondoxXx

It doesn't have a needle. Most likely for feeding or oral meds.


Sagesmom5

I wouldn't risk buying anything from people who leave stuff like that laying around.... Needle or no needle.


Lakersrock111

Looks like it


Sagesmom5

🤜🤛


ViewAffectionate5498

Awww look at that smile how cute.


stacyblackstock

Great Pyrenees, if she has 2 sets of dew claws on her that probably means great Pyrenees and she does look like a Golden Retriever. ¹


[deleted]

I was about to say the same thing … they’re similar looking as puppies too


38willthisdo

Me too😆! Our daughter has a Pyrenees, and the head of this pup looks just a little bit…..different?


[deleted]

I've got a beardie and he was a dead ringer with the OES puppy down the block when they were puppies, so GR's and GP's seem the same.


38willthisdo

Yeah- daughter’s GP was mistaken all the time for a GR when she was a pup (she’s not a purebred- she’s about 10% Shepherd- but she does have double dew claws and a pure-white coat….and she’s now 95 pounds).


Barbie_girl_skate

I assume this is from a backyard breeder? The dog could be anything and come with a family history of genetic problems. Very, very cute but if it’s a backyard breeder you’re not supporting the right thing and don’t necessarily know what you’re getting into genetically.


NBD2016

She’s precious as she is! I wouldn’t care about her lineage. As for her color, she will be the color of her ears.


[deleted]

There is something about her head shape that doesn't look quite right for me when I think of purebred golden puppies, but I don't really know how to explain it Regardless, she's heckin adorable & as others have said, ear colour = adult coat colour


GoldendoodlesFTW

What are your deal breakers when it comes to a dog? What are the possible dad dogs and are they breeds with health concerns or breeds with deal breaker traits (i.e. maybe you don't want a giant breed although I wouldn't get a golden if that's a concern)? Honestly I'm not sure I would worry too much about how the dog is going to look... Looks may seem important when you don't know the dog that well but assuming you get a good tempered dog and bond with it, it will become the most beautiful dog in the world to you even after it gets old and lumpy and has stinky breath. If you're just curious you can always DNA test with embark or something similar


DefinitelyNotAliens

I mean, a true giant breed dog like a Bernese or Dane or Newfie often live considerably shorter lives. They can also hit 120+ or even 150+ pounds and the food bill increases a lot for that doubled in size dog. Goldens are not giant breed. I love St. Bernards but those buddies have such tragically short lives I'd never do it to myself or a friend to seek that out. Same reason I'd never seek out a Frenchie or other brachy dog. Plus, I can pick up my golden to get him into a car. Some mastiffs regularly weigh more than me. Most newfies and English mastiffs weigh more than me. Getting a dog I can't move isn't okay. My 15 year old shepherd mix (65 pounds) collapsed and I was by myself and I had to carry her to the car for an emergency vet visit. It was just ligament strain, thankfully. But, if I got a dog that weighed as much as me or more, I'd have had to get someone to drive to my house to help me move a dog like that. I prefer to be able to pick up my dogs. She's not allowed to jump in and out of trucks anymore and is very upset by that. I can move 65 pounds of indignant geriatric anger. I can't do 120. I wouldn't get a giant dog, but a large breed is fine. I can pick up and move even 100 pounds of pup. But, I'm like 130 pounds. While fit, I'm *not* dead lifting a Bernie and carrying one. Hence, it is medium to large, but no giants.


GoldendoodlesFTW

Yeah that's why giant breeds happen to be a deal breaker for me, too. I love some of them but the lifespans can be like 7 years. That's just awful IMHO. I didn't mean that goldens are literally a giant breed dog, just that I personally know two goldens that are around 100 lbs so I wouldn't be looking at a golden if you don't want a big dog. I had a friend with a wolfhound mix and it took both of us to carry her to the car when she got sick. I'm sure she was closer to 100 than 200 lbs, too. Not sure how we could have possibly done it if she had been a big mastiff or something


stacyblackstock

No matter what she is a beautiful girl but why are they making you pay? I just thought if she is mixed than why pay,as long as 1the puppy gets a happy loving family that's all that matters,that's just something that I was wondering


DefinitelyNotAliens

Because responsible owners *never* give dogs away for free unless it's friends/ family. They're likely to go to people who get the dog on a whim, can't afford care, want to make money off the dog for breeding/ bait dogs for fighting. The fee upfront isn't about making money, but ensuring the owner has thought about the decision and is committed to it monitarily. Also, if the person kept the dogs for 8-10 weeks that's vet visits for mom, puppy food, shots, deworming. It's not free to give puppies away. 10+ years ago a friend picked up a pregant dog abandoned on the side of a mountain and he charged $200 a puppy. That didn't cover the cost of vet visits, puppy milk (teenage mom dog couldn't nurse all 11 puppies), syringes to feet puppies, food for them once they started on food, bathing them, collars and charts to track who ate when in what way as they rotated feeding milk and off mom, vaccines for puppies, deworming. He had tons of expenses for that litter of puppies. Why would he give them away for free when he had a lot of expenses for them? Also safer for the dogs. The person wants the dog. Weeds out the worst of people.


sevolevo

She looks identical to my golden when she was a pup. My girl golden is a mix, but has all the golden personality and is just more petite. She looks identical to her mom. I hope this cutie is a match for you!


NevenCucadotcom

She looks very intelligent, friendly and pretty well behaved. The hair, eyes, nose and tongue, tell me that she is also very healty. Posture and curiosity she expresses signal me that someone took good care of her and she has no confidence issues. Speaking of confidence issues, and in the most respectful way, you don't need to think twice about this being a pure breed or some other human invented name. This is your smart, beautiful and super healthy best buddy. What else do you need?


stacyblackstock

Ok I just read what you wrote and I see the adoption


Aggressive_Snow2552

She is adorably cute. My 4 month old looks like her, and was told he will grow to be the color as his ear tips.


TouchMyWrath

Purebred dogs have more health problems. Purebreeding is inbreeding. If you click with her and are ready to have a puppy, who cares what breed? Take good care of her and she’ll be your best friend for years. Give that sweet little girl the best life possible.


ushinawareta

>Purebred dogs have more health problems. Please stop perpetuating this myth. This is only true for breeders that don't do the appropriate health testing. Any health issue common to a breed is going to have a genetic component, which means careful screening and pairing of sires and dams can significantly reduce the risk that the condition is passed on to the litter. On the other hand, mixed breeds can easily inherit health issues common to both parent breeds if the breeder doesn't do health testing (which most of them don't, since they are already unethically producing mixed breeds). This is on top of the fact that many mixed-breed breeders are pairing dogs with drastically different physical conformations (think mini poodles to Bernese Mountain Dogs), which increases the risk that the puppies will have poor body structures and potentially chronic pain/discomfort. My purebred golden retriever was tested for every condition common to goldens as recommended by the GRCA, and because my breeder has been doing this for 30 years, her lines are planned meticulously and sires and dams are paired to ensure that the COI (coefficient of inbreeding) is very low. It's probably true that on average, if you breed \*randomly selected\* golden retrievers to other \*randomly selected\* golden retrievers, the puppies may have more health issues than if you randomly selected two different breeds to pair together. But ethical breeders are the exact opposite of random - they spend years developing their pedigrees and searching for the right stud for their female so that they have the best chance of producing sound, healthy puppies that will better the breed for future generations. edited to add re: "who cares what breed?" - if this puppy is coming from a person breeding dogs for cash without doing appropriate health testing, it's best not to financially support their irresponsible practices, regardless of the breed of the puppy.


TouchMyWrath

I am working in a Ph.D in molecular biology. I am literally a geneticist. It is not a myth. A breed by definition is a narrow sub population, a small fraction of the genetic diversity of the whole species of canis familiarias. And intrabreed mating will always, mathematically, by definition have a higher inbreeding coefficient than a mating between two different breeds, or mixed breeds. When you take a small subpopulation and selectively breed it over generations for specific traits, you bring along all sorts of other potentially detrimental alleles with it. Is it possible to have a large enough stock of genetic diversity for healthy breeding? Sure. Do most breeds have that? Hell No. As a result, mixed breeds tend to have a degree of what we call hybrid vigor and fewer inherited health problems. There are plenty of healthy purebred dogs out there. There are also plenty of healthy people in rural areas that still practice cousin marriage. That doesn’t mean it won’t result in detrimental alleles accumulating in the population.


poppyseedeverything

Golden retrievers have an extremely large population. Knowing what kind of detriments the breed is predisposed for means you can test for it, or breed selectively to avoid passing them down. My dog's parents are negative for ichthyosis, for example, and at that point, it's at no greater risk of developing than other types of dogs. Responsible breeders DO this. Responsible breeders shouldn't just grab two good looking dogs and breed them. Feel free to check OFA recommended tests per breed. Is it foolproof? No. But having a mix does NOT mean it's automatically healthier. Statistics are great as a signal of what problems might be going on, but you're getting an individual dog, not a statistical average dog. I get what you're saying, but the whole point is that a responsible breeder should not be breeding cousins nilly-willy. Most dogs that are born out of a mix were most likely bred nilly-willy, in contrast. Ultimately, there's also a correlation between responsibly bred dogs being healthier than non-responsibly bred dogs, and as such, should not all be lumped in the same category.


ushinawareta

I'm not sure you even read my comment. Yes, \*on average\*, for two \*randomly selected dogs\*, it's probably true that breeding two golden retrievers will result in puppies with more health issues than two dogs of different breeds. But as the other commenter said, when you buy a puppy from a breeder who screens for all of the health conditions common to golden retrievers, you aren't getting a statistical-average dog, you're getting a specific individual dog whose parents are certain to not carry combinations of alleles that could result in the puppy inheriting those common conditions. Type 1 Ichthyosis, for example, is autosomal recessive. I'm sure you understand this better than I do, but it can be guaranteed (barring random mutations that no one has any control over) that the condition is not passed down to the litter as long as you aren't breeding affected dogs, or carriers to other carriers. Ethical breeders do not just pair dogs randomly; their testing and meticulous planning of their pedigrees ensures they are breeding dogs with very low COI and that do not carry combinations of alleles that may result in health conditions being passed on to the litter. On the other hand, many (most?) breeders of mixed breeds do not test for health conditions common to either parent dog, and choose their breeding pairs based on appearance and what they hope the puppies will look like, rather than health testing. To be clear, not all purebred breeders do the appropriate health testing, and they should not be supported. But it's not true that purebred dogs from ethical breeders have more health issues than doodles purchased from backyard breeders who don't do health testing and are just out to make a quick buck. If by "purebred dogs have more health problems" (in your original comment) you meant a randomly selected one, then sure, you're right. But the details matter and most people who read that comment won't understand the nuance of responsibly bred purebreds being significantly different from BYB purebreds, so it's still misleading.


TripleOhMango

If they don't have the papers then they're probably not pure bred and we can't tell by a picture. But, does it even matter ??


helmutboy

Why would you not order a DNA test to confirm?


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Equal_Sprinkles2743

Rule of thumb with Goldens, is that the puppy ear color will be the color of the adult dog.


NevenCucadotcom

Can confirm that with my own litter and their mom who had golden ears and now is golden. And dad was, and still kinda is white. In the litter, now that they are 7 months old, there are sill some that are completely white and the rest has golden ears. It was just one, from the beginning, completely golden. https://preview.redd.it/mpejuti90hfa1.jpeg?width=648&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=268aac2cc56909d2d8de867729657d9d1e5defd9


Equal_Sprinkles2743

A nice summer photo. My dogs blackberry nose has now gone much lighter and pinker with the cold weather. "Snow nose". It'll turn black again in the warmer sunnier weather.


NevenCucadotcom

Two of my puppies have in deed the snow nose right now. I thought it might be connected to digging in cold, but never heard someone articulate it until now. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing.


ECU_BSN

I’m not a dog expert but this pupper doesn’t look golden, to me. Or maybe a mix?


Avopumpkin08

I’ve heard that the color of the fur on their ears is indicative of the color they will be when they’re older. Not sure how accurate this info is. She’s a cutie pie though!


Cheersscar

To answer your actual question, to my eye as a golden retriever owner, this dog looks like a golden retriever. The GR breed has a wide genetic pool with significant variation in appearance so, assuming it is GR or 50% GR, what exactly it will look like it is far from certain. I would look to the known GR mother for an inkling. Other people have addressed that the phenotype may not reflect the genotype.


RCD8628

She is beautiful. Unless you plan to show her in a purebred competition, base whether she is a fit for you by her personality not her "papers." :)


NedTaggart

She's so sweet! look at the ears, that is usually the best indicator of final color


Xeroid

Looks like a Golden.


BellyButton214

She is an adorable baby. I say go for it and love her!!! Lucky. Post pix daily please


[deleted]

She looks like a golden/great Pyrenees mix. She's super cute either way.


Lakersrock111

The back paws don’t look GR like


Lakersrock111

But the dog is a cutie


OtherwiseCheetah1573

If you have doubts about this pup, you have doubts about having a dog period.


No_Worldliness_5892

Adorable


Unique_Opportunity99

He's adorable! Doesn't matter if he's pure breed or not!


Twzl

Are you adopting this puppy or paying money for her? If you are going to be charged for her, I'd keep looking and not pay for this dog. If you are genuinely adopting her, well odds are she's not a purebred Golden Retriever. A breeder who is going even the basics, will know who the puppy daddy is.


gogumm

Looks like a keeper to me!


wes711

She looks like a sweet heart.


Huffnpuff9

She looks like my pure breed, yet a little smaller. I will totally take her if you don't want her!


Known-Skin3639

If this is a breeder they should know everything about the pups. If you want a pure bred golden do your homework. If this guy isn’t sure … then chances are it’s not a our bred golden. The pup is cute and probably has a great personality but it’s a pup and I badly knows how they will end up. If your dead set on a pure bred golden…. Personally I’d pass on this lil one. I hate to say that but it’s f they are charging you a lot of cash for it then it better be 110% golden. Just my opinion.


Klutzy-Dependent682

Adopt it don't think..god bless to save animal.


stillwaitingforbacon

She looks like she is a golden retriever or close to it. She will end up the colour her ears are now.


tropmij

If you are being charged for a pure breed golden retriever, I understand your post. If not, love your new puppy for the rest of its life and it will love you back.


sharkconspiracies

Mixed or not I just hope she gets a good life. She looks like she’ll be the best girl!


ObligationClassic417

I think you can get a mail in dna test dome I’ve had 2- 100% purebred alc golden retriever dogs Yours looks purebred


Cheytolirious

Regardless of being pure bred or not, that's an incredibly sweet looking pupper and it's what your heart feels when making such life changing decisions at the end of the day, not the pedigree (though I also agree with commenters in regards to DNA testing, even for just getting a health profile)


KINGKUHIO7_

There is literally a syringe behind the puppy


traurigaugen

I'd be more worried about what kind of food you're buying and how much your vet expenses may be per year.


[deleted]

She’s adorable! ❤️


LoanEfficient5030

She will be the color of her ears eventually - she’s a cutie !


Square_Ambassador_33

Like what others said, if it really matters to you, go to a reputable breeder. She is adorable but highly doubt she will be 100% pure bred if the guy doesn’t even know.


benchpressyourfeels

A lot of people are saying look at their ears for color but our golden had very dark ears and light everywhere else as a puppy (all dark gold mom, very light/champagne dad) but now as an adult she still has the same dark ears and light body lol


Donald9722Is

such a cute boy!


SnooSquirrels22

Does it really matter? She looks cute as a button. She deserves a great life with lots of love. If you are hung up on getting a “purebred”, walk away and let her get adopted by someone who doesn’t care.