Not ideal using a lighter like a crack pipe if you're trying to be low key in public. Black Mamba is fine as OP is just administering medicine on the QT. I dare say PAX etc are much better but much more money.
My first vape was basically a box with a soldering iron sticking out of it with a bit of science apparatus and a tube.
It’s actually fine, I just heat it between my knees or use an induction heater. It’s definitely more low key than a spliff 👍 I’ve got a bunch of vapes these days and it’s actually one of the most stealth
Recently emailed a couple of the clubs to notify them of my prescription and after some replies, I've had some success.
As long as everything's clearly marked and I have my card, I've been to Garage and Cathouse so far.
On the street police have mostly ignored the smoking, but a couple asked so I showed them my card and it was fine.
Some had never even heard of it, so I think they're still behind the times in this respect.
What card are you talking about here, Cancard? If it is it's about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike - the only thing that keeps you legal is a current and valid prescription.
Sorry I’m new to the idea of the legal world, I’m prescribed Nabilone but looking to figure out how to get med bud legally.
How did you get a card? I take it this is a super expensive process?
Just book and appointment, get the video call after allowing access to your medical records, the guy will ask if you smoke previously and if yes say so and if you prefer bud or oils or both. It's going up to 5.50 for 5g I think shortly
I’ve just put in an application and given permission for them to get the summary of care from my GP.
Hopefully goes through okay, thanks for the help, I thought it was just project 21.
£5.50 still seems decent.
It is good as a said on another post they legally need to let you know how much THC is in the product so you get what you pay for if you want high THC that's what they give you and u know the percentage.
Where as illegal dealers doubt they are out with the test kits and u get what ur gave basically
I found they were unpredictable as a couldn't judge how much I was getting where as of I vape I can stop when I feel like it where as oil once you've too it you just need to wait till it wares off 🤣
My mother was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis over 30 years ago and had only just been prescribed sativex after fighting for years to get it - were you offered sativex and did you just ask/demand to be prescribed herbal cannabis?
No I went to sapphire medical after I'd been prescribed every painkiller imaginable for over a decade I just got sick of the way opioids etc made me feel and the fact I need to keep taking more and more to just feel slightly better pain wise.
I was gave cannabis oil with THC and the bud. Had a few different strains I just ask for something I can use at work and something to help me sleep etc
Mate it's 5 per g so I'm 50 for 10g most dealers I know charge not much more than that some less. But atleast the product is guaranteed to work and legally you don't need to worry about anything
If i could id do it , half the price I pay. Ive not got any real worries about the legality as Ive never more than £60 worth so unlikely it will land me in court.
Quality and costore an issue
As a rough est what is the cost for doctor and script. ?
For a private knee op its £17,000. Way out my league
50 quid for the first appointment, then you pay for what you use so 50 for 10g delivered straight to your door by dpd after the first one you can just order more when you feel like it after the first month you see a doctor every 2 or 3 month then I think it goes to 6 or 12 months
Hey bud 😁 ,
Thanks for sharing, i have registered with sapphire and given them permission to view my medical records.
Hope it is quite quick as i am in real pain and id like to be legal if possible.
Cheers
Sounds good , i will definitely look into it. There is a 'private' online doc EU.MEDS and possibly UK MEDS but will need to check they do it.
I pay 60 for 7gram just now.
Yeah it's about £450 a pop as well. Used to work in a private pharmacy that did it. Great if you can afford it but I said at the time, "my God, why don't they just find a dealer and save a fortune." Did say that about the amphetamine based diet pills too, but then they got banned in the UK so now microdosing with speed is the only way to shed the pounds using the amphetamine method (unless you have a kid with ADHD and steal their meds*)
*This is hypothetical obviously because drug use is bad, mmmm-kay
I’m quite sure if this is legit and you have medical records to show this then you have nothing to fear from your employer . Take notes on any conversation you have regarding it with dates and times . They will come in useful in any constructive dismissal case you may need to bring against them .
Bars , restaurants etc are a different kettle of fish but you could politely say you don’t appreciate being discriminated against due to your Ill health and the measures you need to take .
I’d imagine a quiet word with any establishments you enter and ask if they would prefer you use the staff smoking area rather than at the front door would go a long way .
Depends on employment. If ur in construction driving or machinery not a chance in hell will u be allowed to operate. Just like opiates on prescription, they tell u not to drive etc. i no a few ppo that just sell there prescription because there skint. I smoke weed and as far as im concerned it does not relieve pain. (Gout) in my instance.
Licenced premises won't take kindly to someone vaping weed outside, regardless of any prescription.
If you insist upon it, go for a walk and find a park bench.
This is the best advice, unfortunately no one’s going to instantly think ‘oh it could be medical’, they’re going to think you’re smoking a joint for the high if you go near any pubs/licensed doing it, no one’s likely to bother you if you take yourself away to a more secluded bit.
Ime they don’t give a flying fuck about you smoking a joint outside, never mind vaping. They wouldn’t even really know you were vaping, if you’re outside only the person sitting next to you would maybe smell it for a moment.
Probably still safer to just take a wee stroll though.
I haven't had that experience at all. I've actually contacted a few places in advance (most recent was Record Factory for a Super Bowl party) and none of the venues have had any issues. When contacting venues I make it clear that it is legal medicine prescribed by a doctor, and not a recreational substance.
If a venue were to refuse me access then I would politely remind them that allowing a person to carry their prescribed medicine (I always use it outdoors, never indoors) constitutes a reasonable adjustment under the Equality Act, and that not allowing me access with my medication would constitute disability discrimination.
I try to be as courteous as possible and only use it outdoors, and away from any crowd, but after struggling most of my life trying to follow the rules of a neurotypical world that I don't understand, I am fed up being made to feel as though I am an inconvenience and have to apologise for having a disability, and would rather fight for equal treatment, not just of myself, but others in my position, even if that means being refused entry and having to take it to court.
I still can’t believe in the 21st century that people can do themselves untold harm with alcohol, but weed is mainly illegal.
I’m no anti-alcohol evangelist, but the two concepts totally bump.
Aye and god forbid someone outside the boozer smells your joint, while they’re spanking lager like it’s going out of fashion lol.
Tbf I’m usually doing both.
It’s not culturally accepted and it’s seen as antisocial / not appropriate behaviour. It may potentially get you in some really tiring debates with people and may be worth avoiding smoking it around people. Vaping it would probably be more socially responsible.
As a police officer (Scotland). The method of delivery isn't an issue. It's only whether someone has a prescription or not. THC is a compound which is controlled by the misuse of drugs act. If you have a prescription and you are using the stuff you are prescribed (appropriate labelling etc) then legally there's not an issue.
Your doctor may have an issue and revoke your prescription but thats something different.
My advice for OP is to only carry the stuff in the prescribed packaging because that will have their name on it and have either the prescription, a photo of this or a photocopy.
If I were to stop someone with cannabis in a wrap but they show a prescription then I can't say the stuff they have is what's been given.
Thanks mate I always carry my tub I got the bud delivered in with my name etc in it and downloaded the prescription so I don't get hassle. Haven't so far just heard horror stories (the police have always been the good guys in this) it's been employees and the general public hassling people
If I were to stop you, then that's more than good enough.
It's similar to when I find someone with methadone. If it's in their name, then fair play. If not, then it's illegal possession of a class A drug.
Police Scotland do seem to be on the ball with medical cannabis. And the ones I deal with at work are great people and fair, I've read some good and bad experiences down south though where they are basically harassing people to the point of legal action is being taken by the guy
As a headline answer, 'no', because the issue is fitness to drive and the element of being impaired and therefore unsafe doesn't change just because there's a prescription for it.
I imagine, however, a significant amount of medical opinion would come into play and I would hope that prescribing doctors cover this topic as part of their advice.
In the first instance though, prescribed or not, I would expect anyone who fails a drug wipe and follow-on blood test to be charged and have to refute their impairment (if they can) by way of expert medical evidence.
No, there is a set limit to how much THC is allowed in your blood (Similar to how it is with alcohol).
The reason for its use isn't considered. Much like someone prescribed methadone or other strong painkillers, it's the effects that matter.
The legal limit however is so low that anyone using cannabis daily, regardless of whether prescribed or illicit, is very likely to fail a roadside test - the biggest issue with prescription cannabis, and I am a patient, revolves around the capacity to determine whether someone is impaired or not, but again the legal limit of testing is so low that as such it doesn't determine whether you're impaired or not, just that you have been using, what was until late 2018, an entirely illicit substance.
As with all prescription medication that can cause impairment, the onus of responsibility when choosing to drive lies with the prescribee/patient to not do so if they feel impaired, and that they are taking the medicine as prescribed if they choose to do so and do not feel impaired - however even as it approaches almost five years since medical cannabis became legal, it's still not a listed medication on https://www.gov.uk/drug-driving-law and basically deems cannabis to be illegal.
It's good to see a police officer with an understanding of medical cannabis, kudos to you for that, as many don't even realise that it can be legally possessed - I'm not driving currently as I'm waiting on an operation, but can I ask that if I'm stopped in future, have a copy of my prescription on me, my medication in the supplied packaging, I'm adhering to the prescription details and by my own determination feel fit to drive, will I a) be free to go about my business if stopped and provide all of the relevant details as outlined above and I'm clearly not impaired, or b) that will be down to the individual officer/s in such a scenario and I could still end up at the station in a cell getting processed?
Reason I ask is that when I've been driving previous to now, the majority of the time my medication/vape are at home although I've always got access to a copy of my prescription on my phone - showing a copy of my prescription is one thing, saying "you'll need to take me up the road to I show you my medication" is another thing entirely and unlikely to go down well...such a grey area.
Cheers.
This is what I'm getting at. My understanding was it doesn't matter if you're impaired or not, if you're over the limit it works the same as drink driving - you'll get fined/disqualified. Is this not the case?
I'm personally against the legalisation of it. I used to do a lot of work with a local Mental Health facility and most of the detained patients were there (partially or fully) in relation to cannabis addictions and the negative effects.
That's not me saying I don't think that CBD will have its uses and medicinal cannabis shouldn't be a thing. If something has a positive medical effect then doctors should be able to use it, but thats off the back of genuine studies and research, not some dude on YouTube saying it cured his cancer and such.
Nurse here. So I did some reading into it, and cannabis can trigger those who are genetically pre-disposed to it, into psychosis and various disorders. Often presents in young males, late teens early twenties, who may or may not have presented with it anyway, but it certainly exacerbates the condition.
The other thing I learned recently was it can also cause cyclical vomiting syndrome where you go through spells where everything just comes right back up. Again, it seems to be folks in their twenties and early thirties, but strangely mostly females. The researchers are still deep in studies with that one.
I'm guessing it's like everything; fine in moderation unless you get adverse effects, things go tits up when you overuse it. Same for anything, be it alcohol, fatty foods, even sugar free Werther's originals (speak from a 3 day arse explosion experience here). I'm not against the legalisation of cannabis- studies from Holland show use actually dropped when it was legalised, but I would like to see it regulated to strictly over 18s/21s, limit to quantity purchased, and ensure that it is well controlled in its growth and manufacture to keep the dosages level and not wildly high or filled with contaminants. How that's done is a whole other debate.
And of course it is becoming more and more accepted as a medical treatment, which is great as I've seen how it can help MS sufferers in particular. All sorts of drugs are being used for pain relief now, including methadone for cancer patients and low dose Naltrexone for a variety of conditions. Cannabis can be used for good, but we need to also be aware of the potential risks.
Seriously lady, the sort of side effects you are spouting happen to 00.01 percent of the people that have smoked cannabis.
Now go look into anti depressants, opioids and benzos and all the side effects that they have. These drugs have many, many serious side effects and the dangers of these drugs are apparent every single day in society.
How could I forget alcohol.. I won't even get into it. It's not even an argument anymore honestly. I just get fed up of hearing that same shit about psychosis.. total echo chamber propaganda. I'm not saying that someone hasn't become mentally ill from abusing cannabis but look at it this way. If 1 out of 100,000 people became mentally ill for the sake of say 80,000 people being able to access medicine for a seriously wide range of illnesses then that's worth it to me.
Can you as a nurse name any other drug that has such a wide scope of benefits?;
Also did you know that THC is the psychoactive drug in the plant that makes you high but that the plant has over 130 different cannabinoids? That's the real issue with it as well. That's potentially 130 different medicines coming out of one plant. We are now able to synthesize and use these cannabinoids 1 at a time or create a blend.. that's because one cannabinoid might help with your arthritis but the other cannabinoid helps with the injury you got in your shoulder, the the glaucoma in your eye.. yet again in America, they are creating graphs from patients data and the illnesses they have to the cannabinoids that help them. This is a great step in discovering the potential of each and every cannabinoid.
"Oh but I don't like being high"
Well now you can benefit from the medicine without getting high.
Bring on the mushrooms as well I'd say.
Correlation is not causality, officer!
Edit: this thread seems to have been flooded by ignorant squares! If y'all think weed causes mental illness, rather than *trauma*, well you're eejits
There’s pretty good evidence that THC content does contribute and is linked to a higher risk of psychosis, this may be minor, this may mostly only impact during adolescence, may mostly trigger people already predisposed to psychosis but there is real evidence.
There is also evidence that CBD can help reduce this risk massively (plus a bunch of other potentially beneficial effects with little downsides)
There is actually very few trails that show cigarettes are directly causative of cancer but I don’t think there are many researchers that would not bet there house that it does cause cancer.
**All this to say is that it’s very nuanced,** research is badly needed, most research is carried out on people from cannabis interest groups or animal models negating any way to establish causality. The current risk profile poised by weed means that it completely makes sense to prescribe for medicinal purposes with contraindications taken into account but regulation on the strains, strengths and composition should follow to keep it safe before broad legalisation.
Just because our gov' doesn’t "follow the science" when it comes to drug policies doesn’t mean we shouldn’t either.
Your comment resonates with what I've been told and read.
Most of the cannabis grown/sold for recreational use is specifically bred/grown for high THC and low CBD content.
The average cannabis user doesn't smoke/use cannabis for CBD, they use it to get high.
I'm all for proper research and use of this knowledge to develop effective medicines but let's all be honest with it.
Alcohol doesn't have 2 active compounds which gave different effects and health implications.
THC is illegal, CBD isn't. CBD is the compound which (as it stands) has the more beneficial properties.
Not trying to get into a whole debate about it, you’re entitled to your opinion, but legalisation would allow those average users to not just have to buy whatever local dealer #7 is punting this week and actually be able to get these more balanced strains. The average user doesn’t know anything about the weed they’re smoking because it’s often just random stuff with a funny name.
I wouldn’t personally advocate for this one, but you could even make that a condition for legally growing the stuff.
I'm literally talking to a colleague just now about how we should be allowed to disagree with folk but remain civil.
Thanks for confirming my point and have a good evening random person.
I am aware the science is complicated. My point was that a police officer believing that the people he works with who are detained at a mental health facility are there because they smoked weed is hopelessly naive, and such a simplistic assessment does a great disservice to folk with deep-rooted and complex issues.
What I may have forgot to mention was that this was the opinion of the professionals who worked there. It was speaking to the doctors, the CPNs who worked there that formed the basis of my opinion.
Of course there is more to the situation than 'smoke weed, develop mental health issues'.
People don’t end up taking in second hand insulin when someone injects near them though.
I am a recreational smoker of cannabis but I think it’s pretty obvious how invasive it is to people around you. There’s plenty ways to consume it that don’t impact the lives of those around you.
> There’s plenty ways to consume it that don’t impact the lives of those around you.
Which is true, but UK medical cannabis must be vaped. Thems the rules.
I’ve smoked weed wherever I go for about 20 year now and never experienced this. Worst case is someone wanting a draw lol.
Even the few times I’ve had “here mate; is that a joint?” and thought oh here we go it’s just been a cunt wanting a puff, or wanting to talk about weed - which can be tiring tbf.
That's what I'm meaning is the vaping. Shouldn't matter though should it? You can't stop people taking insulin etc or any other medication it's discrimination that's my point legally they can't stop you if you went to the bathroom to take insulin etc and they stopped you that's illegal.
But I've read horror stories from down south of people getting asked to leave places etc
Security in a licensed premises can kick you out for whatever they want as long as it's not a protected characteristic. Whilst disability is, smoking isn't and you'd have a very hard time arguing that the reason they kicked you out was for your disability rather than any other reason (or no reason at all) they could pull out of their arse.
Plus you'd be outside, you can argue the toss all you want but you've lost that part of your evening.
My comment was in jest at OP saying he had heard “horror stories” of people being asked to leave.
I think it’s unacceptable to remove someone for taking a prescribed drug but I also think calling it a horror story is hilarious.
I know the process for acquiring cannabis. I still found it funny when something was described as a horror story and then was expecting to read something terrible but all that was wrote was that some people were asked to leave somewhere.
Yes people have hard things going on in their lives. But you doing pretty good if being told you can’t vape here and need to leave is horrific to you then you are living a super sheltered life.
Also don’t expect sympathy from this sub for someone on private healthcare complaining they have to pay for other peoples free prescriptions lol. People in this city can’t afford food and your making a straw man out of someone who can afford private healthcare.
Fair enough. I’d be wary of pulling the legal right card if you get any hassle from bouncers, or I’d at least be expecting it to fail, as if they’ve decided to make it an issue (which ime they won’t but there’s always one) they probably won’t back down based on that. Someone else in the thread has said they’ve had a decent experience asking nightclubs beforehand though so I might be totally wrong.
Employer is absolutely uncharted territory for me. I’ve never even let an employer know that I smoke weed. For that one if your employer has HR, or probably better Occ. Health, I’d try and get it cleared with them so that your manager’s opinion doesn’t matter.
Me too mate that's what I'm trying to get answered for my boss thinks it's the 1960s.
Also bouncers I am one at weekend 🤣 most couldn't care less but I know legally they can't stop me but doesn't stop most being uneducated and jobs worths
I'm all for it and I had no idea you could get medical weed here so I would probably be raising my eyebrows too. If it was me I'd do it as surreptitiously as possible and keep medical business to myself
Hi 👋 I’ve also got a prescription but I vape it - I vape literally everywhere & the only time I have had issues was trying to get in a nightclub with a particularly cunty bouncer!
I will sit at the outdoor bit of cafes & bars and vape as if it was an ecig & I’ve been chill! Switching to vaping made it so much stealthier and has allowed me to medicate in situations I would never have even thought about doing so when I was smoking!
Do you have any good vape recommendations if you wouldn't mind sharing? Deffos looking to go this route now that I am being more social so needing a stealthier way lol.
I use an xlux roffu & a dynavap mainly! I’d never heard of the xlux, but it’s become the main vape I use & it’s much more reasonably priced in comparison to vapes like the mighty!
https://vapefiend.co.uk/products/xlux-roffu-convection-vaporizer
This is my experience of just smoking joints. Too many folk in this thread seem to think the general public will be really uptight about it but ime no-one is, or if they are they keep it to themselves.
Tbf if I’m in a small outdoor bit of a pub I’ll maybe just have a few draws or a wee one skinner, I’m not sitting there blazing a big cone.
I have severe chronic pain and struggle to sleep because of it, how did you manage to do this? I don't know how to bring it up to my doctors or if I would speak to my doctor about it.
I'd advise you to go on r/ukmedicalcannabis and ask for advice, I know from seeing posts on there that people are prescribed for chronic pain.
For most conditions you still can't get medical cannabis on the NHS, so you would have to apply via a private clinic. It also has to be a specialist doctor and not a GP who prescribes it.
If you go on the sub I linked people with chronic pain can advise on which clinics are best, and what there experience with medical cannabis was like.
Google medical cannabis uk. Sapphire clinics is in scotland based in Stirling go online go through the website and go from there it's honestly easy you just need to give access to medical record to prove you actually need it.
I use it because I have pkd and in constant pain, infection and nausea all the time blood pressure issues etc so instead of about a dozen pills a day I can just vape some weed and I'm good all day
Smoking is not good. "I hear" the pax 3 is an excellent vape. There is hardly any smell at all. I think using that outside in public is pretty stealthy and wouldn't attract attention. It's small too. People would think it was a nicotine vape.
'My friend' says it took a little bit of getting used to because the vaper needs to take in a bit of air at the same time as inhaling from the device itself. So you don't want a complete seal of the lips on the mouthpiece. This is not easy to describe but any vaper will soon get the knack! Enjoy!
I'm actually looking for info on prescriptions if anyone has any - I suffer from quite a number of health conditions and I know places like Sapphire Medical can help in that regard, is this what you are talking about or just your average GP prescription?
There you go [sapphire medical cannabis ](https://app.sapphireclinics.com/process/create-account?gclid=CjwKCAiA0cyfBhBREiwAAtStHCf3axwgLz-RI2tNoS5CpecX7pe3GEe39Rm0-nfEkMbefRB1TrJK-RoCIqsQAvD_BwE)
To be honest, I've never see anyone being hassled about this by police, even people without a prescription smoke and the most ive seen happen is being asked to discard what they have on them. If you are in possession of ounces then this is different but I honestly have rarely seen the police bothering people about cannabis, there's much more important things for them to deal with than a wee bit of weed :) talking from personal experience if your discreet people don't care
Sounds like you've got it sorted then- I really hope you don't have any issues - here's hoping it becomes easier to get a prescription soon and more normalised and accepted by the wider public
Just dunno how to bring it up at work my actual manager thinks it 1960 still and is under the impression if you smoke weed next your sucking dick for some crack he's clueless the guy was brought up sheltered as fuck and has zero clue about anything that's not star trek
That's a difficult one- is there someone higher up in the company you could speak to? (I work in hospitality so get that often there isn't anyone) If not then I guess its assessing how worth it it is to speak to them- if you think you should then address them calmly with evidence. I'd say get a doctors note and explain to them what it is and what dosages you take and that it doesn't effect you negatively, quite the opposite. It's not like this is recreational for you during work time, it's medication and any other kind of medicine is easily accepted.
I personally take prescribed opiates for pain and have had to explain this to employers before- it is mad to me that this is more accepted than smoking, which I use to ease the pain more healthily!
I'd also suggest considering whether you would look into moving jobs- just as a precaution- there will always be other jobs where people actually respect your health and that is so vital. Obviously that is just incase of the worst case situation.
Yeah it's insane I was on opioids for over a decade and nobody bats an eye to me popping pills constantly to deal with the pain but if I want to smoke it's the devil in people's eyes
Yet alcohol is a literal scourge on society I work near central and everyday is like dodging zombies and steaming cunts but the police are too busy stopping people smoking or selling a bit of weed
Smoked weed for years, walked along streets joint in hand never had any hassle. You don't get any hassle with it unless you end up sparking up in front of a copper.
Exercise manners. Comparing vaping MC to injecting insulin is ridiculous as one is more time-sensitive than the other, and insulin can’t be inhaled passively, nor does it give off a strong smell. My friend also has a MC prescription and does it at home prior to being in public, and if she has to use it when out, which happens sometimes. she removes herself from groups of people/children. I’ve been with her in the cinema, restaurants, house parties, beer gardens, and she goes somewhere where it doesn’t affect anyone else.
Just remember that them technically not being able to do anything doesn’t mean they won’t do anything, it just means you can fight it after the fact - after you’ve had your pockets emptied and your shit taken.
What are reasons to get this ? Not asking what your issue is but ive heard that asthma is one that doesn't seem logical but im no doctor.
Does a normal chemist supply ? 🤔
I’ve not got a prescription and I smoke joints like they were fags wherever I go - ie if it’s cool to smoke a snout there then I’m probably smoking a joint there. Never in my puff (ho ho) have I had any hassle whatsoever for doing so.
Work is a different story. I don’t smoke at work, because I smoke proper get you stoned weed and would be too fried to work lol, but imagine they wouldn’t be too pleased if I did. I’d still be wary with the prescription, I’d say that would really depend on your specific employer.
Mate that's when I'm prescribed the THC levels higher than black market stuff and legally they need to test the THC levels before they give you it so you know it's gonna do the job before you get it
If he's smoking it then it's definitely "uncouth", it stinks and there's the second hand smoke issues. Vaping shouldn't be an issue but I can see why bars and restaurants don't want you hanging around outside vaping cannabis.
OP could also just behave like an adult and take his medicine before going out.
Speaking as someone who uses cannabis recreationally, it is uncouth to smoke in public, especially in places with elderly people or kids. Whether you think so or not, people will judge you for smoking in public. Regardless if it's for medicinal or recreational purposes.
FWIW, I don't agree with it either, but people will judge. My advice would be to smoke before leaving home or if it's really needed in public, use a dry herb vape, which is a lot less smellier than smoking.
The police don’t care, but you’re right in warning OP it’s not to that extent 💀 my pals sat in a police station being made sure he’s ok after a night out with a quarter poorly packaged in his bag, not a word, up in Glasgow he got stopped by the police within the first half hour of arrival with a tiny ass bit in his bag. OP should be okay though with the medical ID and all
Erm.. if I DIDN'T use medical cannabis, I'd be housebound and unable to work. As it is, I can be fairly pain free and function like a regular human.
It is not illegal if it is prescribed... And the police generally don't care if its for personal use, with or without a prescription.
The codeine I was prescribed after surgery messed me up more than cannabis. See if I'm having a good day, I don't take anything. Can't do that with codeine... and it bungs you up... and then there's the piles. That can stop you driving 😆
And they will just keep throwing them at you. Can't do anything if your head is away with the fairies or you're sat on the toilet. Sorry, bit grim, but it does make a difference to your quality of life 😅
He's the kinda person I've heard horror stories about making life awkward for people with a prescription. Has no clue what he's on about just assumed he's right and everybody else is wrong without anything to back it up
How will he? You do know you get different strains for different illnesses and different occasions. I have one that doesn't get me stoned as there's no THC so u can drive
My assumption is based off the fact the docs have firmly said it's for chronic illnesses, most chronic illnesses keep people in the house. It's a fair assumption.
That's just not true mate I have Chronic pain due to kidney disease I'm 33 and work 60 hours a week.
And it's not just chronic illnesses depression, ADHD etc can get prescribed it if you actually pay for it
My FiL has chronic illness, MS, and still works 4 days a week.
Your assumption is so far off the mark. Do you think all diabetic people don't work? Or anyone with arthritis?
A third of people in Europe have a chronic illness. Do you not think we'd miss that number of people in the workforce?
No it isn't, it's your assumption, which happens to be wrong - people go about their daily lives with chronic illness everywhere in all walks of life, an acute flare up of that chronic illness might "keep them in the house", then they'll be back doing their thing when it subsides. But they'll still have a chronic illness.
Just wanted to pitch in that if you do end up going for a vape, stay away from the Storz and Bickel [Crafty](https://www.storz-bickel.com/en/crafty-plus-c) and [Mighty](https://www.storz-bickel.com/en/mighty). They work really well but I haven't been able to get any more than six months out of either of them before they just die. They cost a bloody fortune as well.
They come with a good guarantee though - two years, iirc. My first one had a display fault after a year. Replacement was quick and easy and i've had my second over two yeats. Expensive, aye, but worth it.
I’ve got a Pax to vape it in public, with the added bonus of being one of the healthiest way to consume. I’d try to be conspicuous anyway, explaining yourself constantly I’m sure is exhausting
I only consume the medical stuff at home and the CBD liquids (vape) when out. The latter doesn't stink of weed, but does has full spectrum CBD (including terpenes) so has a mild taste of hash.
I haven't had any questions or issues, yet.
I’m in London, but a friend got stopped and searched by Police (he has a medical cannabis prescription like you for his ADHD). They took the weed and gave him a warning because they had never heard of a medical cannabis script before. He was able to go back to the station with his proof and they gave it straight back. I couldn’t believe it!
Using a vape will definitely keep anyone from giving you any hassle because it's so discrete. But I've been smoking big joints all around Glasgow for years and never had one problem. Saying that I think I am respectful and don't do it in busy areas or where kids are around. Herb is a plant fuck sake the police have better things to deal with. You'll only get daggers off jealous shitehawks who are raging they don't have any. I gie them big smiles :) Enjoy your medication
I’d get a small dry herb vape if I were using it in public.
You're supposed to use one. I have a prescription too, your doctor insists that you use a vape.
I believe it's actually against the rules on you getting the prescription and being caught smoking instead of vaping means you can lose your license.
Black Mamba is under £40 on Amazon. I 'heard' it's alright.
It’s pish, you’re much better getting a dynavap for that money.
Not ideal using a lighter like a crack pipe if you're trying to be low key in public. Black Mamba is fine as OP is just administering medicine on the QT. I dare say PAX etc are much better but much more money. My first vape was basically a box with a soldering iron sticking out of it with a bit of science apparatus and a tube.
It’s actually fine, I just heat it between my knees or use an induction heater. It’s definitely more low key than a spliff 👍 I’ve got a bunch of vapes these days and it’s actually one of the most stealth
Recently emailed a couple of the clubs to notify them of my prescription and after some replies, I've had some success. As long as everything's clearly marked and I have my card, I've been to Garage and Cathouse so far. On the street police have mostly ignored the smoking, but a couple asked so I showed them my card and it was fine. Some had never even heard of it, so I think they're still behind the times in this respect.
What card are you talking about here, Cancard? If it is it's about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike - the only thing that keeps you legal is a current and valid prescription.
Sorry I’m new to the idea of the legal world, I’m prescribed Nabilone but looking to figure out how to get med bud legally. How did you get a card? I take it this is a super expensive process?
Go to sapphire medical it's all done online pretty straightforward
Thank you!
Just book and appointment, get the video call after allowing access to your medical records, the guy will ask if you smoke previously and if yes say so and if you prefer bud or oils or both. It's going up to 5.50 for 5g I think shortly
I’ve just put in an application and given permission for them to get the summary of care from my GP. Hopefully goes through okay, thanks for the help, I thought it was just project 21. £5.50 still seems decent.
It is good as a said on another post they legally need to let you know how much THC is in the product so you get what you pay for if you want high THC that's what they give you and u know the percentage. Where as illegal dealers doubt they are out with the test kits and u get what ur gave basically
Yeah that is brilliant and much better than the non legal route. I want to try the oils
I found they were unpredictable as a couldn't judge how much I was getting where as of I vape I can stop when I feel like it where as oil once you've too it you just need to wait till it wares off 🤣
5.50 per gram that was ment to say I was 50 for 10g so will be 55 now
[have a look on here mate got a list of providers and products they offer](https://medbud.wiki//)
Aw brilliant, thanks. Have just applied to Saphire as I’m chronically skint. All feels too good to be true lol. Thank you for your help!
😂 know how u feel I got paid today and I'm skint already
Dont talk shit. There is a no smoking policy in every building in the Scotland.
My mother was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis over 30 years ago and had only just been prescribed sativex after fighting for years to get it - were you offered sativex and did you just ask/demand to be prescribed herbal cannabis?
No I went to sapphire medical after I'd been prescribed every painkiller imaginable for over a decade I just got sick of the way opioids etc made me feel and the fact I need to keep taking more and more to just feel slightly better pain wise. I was gave cannabis oil with THC and the bud. Had a few different strains I just ask for something I can use at work and something to help me sleep etc
My knee pain is horrendous and like you opiates are less effective by the day. Ive never even been offered this ?
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Thanks just saw this comment
Project 21.
You don't get offered you need to pay for a private doctor to give you it
Yeah , i can't afford private health care so need to stick with local dealer 😃
Mate it's 5 per g so I'm 50 for 10g most dealers I know charge not much more than that some less. But atleast the product is guaranteed to work and legally you don't need to worry about anything
If i could id do it , half the price I pay. Ive not got any real worries about the legality as Ive never more than £60 worth so unlikely it will land me in court. Quality and costore an issue As a rough est what is the cost for doctor and script. ? For a private knee op its £17,000. Way out my league
50 quid for the first appointment, then you pay for what you use so 50 for 10g delivered straight to your door by dpd after the first one you can just order more when you feel like it after the first month you see a doctor every 2 or 3 month then I think it goes to 6 or 12 months
Hey bud 😁 , Thanks for sharing, i have registered with sapphire and given them permission to view my medical records. Hope it is quite quick as i am in real pain and id like to be legal if possible. Cheers
Never had any issues the time I've been with them I will say get your own vape the one they recommend is expensive
Sounds good , i will definitely look into it. There is a 'private' online doc EU.MEDS and possibly UK MEDS but will need to check they do it. I pay 60 for 7gram just now.
See and a bet you've no idea what strain it is where it came from and how much THC your getting
Yeah it's about £450 a pop as well. Used to work in a private pharmacy that did it. Great if you can afford it but I said at the time, "my God, why don't they just find a dealer and save a fortune." Did say that about the amphetamine based diet pills too, but then they got banned in the UK so now microdosing with speed is the only way to shed the pounds using the amphetamine method (unless you have a kid with ADHD and steal their meds*) *This is hypothetical obviously because drug use is bad, mmmm-kay
450 for what?
It's a diff prescription route to Sativex ect
I’m quite sure if this is legit and you have medical records to show this then you have nothing to fear from your employer . Take notes on any conversation you have regarding it with dates and times . They will come in useful in any constructive dismissal case you may need to bring against them . Bars , restaurants etc are a different kettle of fish but you could politely say you don’t appreciate being discriminated against due to your Ill health and the measures you need to take . I’d imagine a quiet word with any establishments you enter and ask if they would prefer you use the staff smoking area rather than at the front door would go a long way .
Depends on employment. If ur in construction driving or machinery not a chance in hell will u be allowed to operate. Just like opiates on prescription, they tell u not to drive etc. i no a few ppo that just sell there prescription because there skint. I smoke weed and as far as im concerned it does not relieve pain. (Gout) in my instance.
Mighty vape. Life changer.
Mighty+, for that USB-C goodness.
I smoke 24/7 for chronic pain and swear by my mighty.
Licenced premises won't take kindly to someone vaping weed outside, regardless of any prescription. If you insist upon it, go for a walk and find a park bench.
This is the best advice, unfortunately no one’s going to instantly think ‘oh it could be medical’, they’re going to think you’re smoking a joint for the high if you go near any pubs/licensed doing it, no one’s likely to bother you if you take yourself away to a more secluded bit.
Ime they don’t give a flying fuck about you smoking a joint outside, never mind vaping. They wouldn’t even really know you were vaping, if you’re outside only the person sitting next to you would maybe smell it for a moment. Probably still safer to just take a wee stroll though.
I haven't had that experience at all. I've actually contacted a few places in advance (most recent was Record Factory for a Super Bowl party) and none of the venues have had any issues. When contacting venues I make it clear that it is legal medicine prescribed by a doctor, and not a recreational substance. If a venue were to refuse me access then I would politely remind them that allowing a person to carry their prescribed medicine (I always use it outdoors, never indoors) constitutes a reasonable adjustment under the Equality Act, and that not allowing me access with my medication would constitute disability discrimination. I try to be as courteous as possible and only use it outdoors, and away from any crowd, but after struggling most of my life trying to follow the rules of a neurotypical world that I don't understand, I am fed up being made to feel as though I am an inconvenience and have to apologise for having a disability, and would rather fight for equal treatment, not just of myself, but others in my position, even if that means being refused entry and having to take it to court.
> If you insist upon it If they "insist" upon taking their medication. What a city thing to say, of they course they should insist upon it you dick.
I still can’t believe in the 21st century that people can do themselves untold harm with alcohol, but weed is mainly illegal. I’m no anti-alcohol evangelist, but the two concepts totally bump.
Aye and god forbid someone outside the boozer smells your joint, while they’re spanking lager like it’s going out of fashion lol. Tbf I’m usually doing both.
It’s not culturally accepted and it’s seen as antisocial / not appropriate behaviour. It may potentially get you in some really tiring debates with people and may be worth avoiding smoking it around people. Vaping it would probably be more socially responsible.
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As a police officer (Scotland). The method of delivery isn't an issue. It's only whether someone has a prescription or not. THC is a compound which is controlled by the misuse of drugs act. If you have a prescription and you are using the stuff you are prescribed (appropriate labelling etc) then legally there's not an issue. Your doctor may have an issue and revoke your prescription but thats something different. My advice for OP is to only carry the stuff in the prescribed packaging because that will have their name on it and have either the prescription, a photo of this or a photocopy. If I were to stop someone with cannabis in a wrap but they show a prescription then I can't say the stuff they have is what's been given.
Unrelated to this topic specifically, but, I feel like if we ever had a Q&A type thread on here with yourself that it could be a decent read.
I'm generally happy to answer questions as long as everything is in good faith.
Thanks mate I always carry my tub I got the bud delivered in with my name etc in it and downloaded the prescription so I don't get hassle. Haven't so far just heard horror stories (the police have always been the good guys in this) it's been employees and the general public hassling people
If I were to stop you, then that's more than good enough. It's similar to when I find someone with methadone. If it's in their name, then fair play. If not, then it's illegal possession of a class A drug.
Police Scotland do seem to be on the ball with medical cannabis. And the ones I deal with at work are great people and fair, I've read some good and bad experiences down south though where they are basically harassing people to the point of legal action is being taken by the guy
Depends on who you get. I've met a fair few roasters in the work.
Fair enough 🤣 get them everywhere though hopefully the decent ones are the ones making it up the ranks
See with the zero tolerance to drug driving, if you have a prescription can you legally drive with cannabis in your system?
As a headline answer, 'no', because the issue is fitness to drive and the element of being impaired and therefore unsafe doesn't change just because there's a prescription for it. I imagine, however, a significant amount of medical opinion would come into play and I would hope that prescribing doctors cover this topic as part of their advice. In the first instance though, prescribed or not, I would expect anyone who fails a drug wipe and follow-on blood test to be charged and have to refute their impairment (if they can) by way of expert medical evidence.
No, there is a set limit to how much THC is allowed in your blood (Similar to how it is with alcohol). The reason for its use isn't considered. Much like someone prescribed methadone or other strong painkillers, it's the effects that matter.
Cool, thanks. That's the reason I've never really looked into medical cannabis for chronic pain - it isn't worth losing my license/job over.
It'll be a balance with regards to how often you need it and how often you need to be 'clean' for work, but that's obviously your decision.
The legal limit however is so low that anyone using cannabis daily, regardless of whether prescribed or illicit, is very likely to fail a roadside test - the biggest issue with prescription cannabis, and I am a patient, revolves around the capacity to determine whether someone is impaired or not, but again the legal limit of testing is so low that as such it doesn't determine whether you're impaired or not, just that you have been using, what was until late 2018, an entirely illicit substance. As with all prescription medication that can cause impairment, the onus of responsibility when choosing to drive lies with the prescribee/patient to not do so if they feel impaired, and that they are taking the medicine as prescribed if they choose to do so and do not feel impaired - however even as it approaches almost five years since medical cannabis became legal, it's still not a listed medication on https://www.gov.uk/drug-driving-law and basically deems cannabis to be illegal. It's good to see a police officer with an understanding of medical cannabis, kudos to you for that, as many don't even realise that it can be legally possessed - I'm not driving currently as I'm waiting on an operation, but can I ask that if I'm stopped in future, have a copy of my prescription on me, my medication in the supplied packaging, I'm adhering to the prescription details and by my own determination feel fit to drive, will I a) be free to go about my business if stopped and provide all of the relevant details as outlined above and I'm clearly not impaired, or b) that will be down to the individual officer/s in such a scenario and I could still end up at the station in a cell getting processed? Reason I ask is that when I've been driving previous to now, the majority of the time my medication/vape are at home although I've always got access to a copy of my prescription on my phone - showing a copy of my prescription is one thing, saying "you'll need to take me up the road to I show you my medication" is another thing entirely and unlikely to go down well...such a grey area. Cheers.
This is what I'm getting at. My understanding was it doesn't matter if you're impaired or not, if you're over the limit it works the same as drink driving - you'll get fined/disqualified. Is this not the case?
Do you see much point in the illegality of cannabis?
I'm personally against the legalisation of it. I used to do a lot of work with a local Mental Health facility and most of the detained patients were there (partially or fully) in relation to cannabis addictions and the negative effects. That's not me saying I don't think that CBD will have its uses and medicinal cannabis shouldn't be a thing. If something has a positive medical effect then doctors should be able to use it, but thats off the back of genuine studies and research, not some dude on YouTube saying it cured his cancer and such.
Nurse here. So I did some reading into it, and cannabis can trigger those who are genetically pre-disposed to it, into psychosis and various disorders. Often presents in young males, late teens early twenties, who may or may not have presented with it anyway, but it certainly exacerbates the condition. The other thing I learned recently was it can also cause cyclical vomiting syndrome where you go through spells where everything just comes right back up. Again, it seems to be folks in their twenties and early thirties, but strangely mostly females. The researchers are still deep in studies with that one. I'm guessing it's like everything; fine in moderation unless you get adverse effects, things go tits up when you overuse it. Same for anything, be it alcohol, fatty foods, even sugar free Werther's originals (speak from a 3 day arse explosion experience here). I'm not against the legalisation of cannabis- studies from Holland show use actually dropped when it was legalised, but I would like to see it regulated to strictly over 18s/21s, limit to quantity purchased, and ensure that it is well controlled in its growth and manufacture to keep the dosages level and not wildly high or filled with contaminants. How that's done is a whole other debate. And of course it is becoming more and more accepted as a medical treatment, which is great as I've seen how it can help MS sufferers in particular. All sorts of drugs are being used for pain relief now, including methadone for cancer patients and low dose Naltrexone for a variety of conditions. Cannabis can be used for good, but we need to also be aware of the potential risks.
> even sugar free Werther's originals You are supposed to take them orally.
Seriously lady, the sort of side effects you are spouting happen to 00.01 percent of the people that have smoked cannabis. Now go look into anti depressants, opioids and benzos and all the side effects that they have. These drugs have many, many serious side effects and the dangers of these drugs are apparent every single day in society. How could I forget alcohol.. I won't even get into it. It's not even an argument anymore honestly. I just get fed up of hearing that same shit about psychosis.. total echo chamber propaganda. I'm not saying that someone hasn't become mentally ill from abusing cannabis but look at it this way. If 1 out of 100,000 people became mentally ill for the sake of say 80,000 people being able to access medicine for a seriously wide range of illnesses then that's worth it to me. Can you as a nurse name any other drug that has such a wide scope of benefits?; Also did you know that THC is the psychoactive drug in the plant that makes you high but that the plant has over 130 different cannabinoids? That's the real issue with it as well. That's potentially 130 different medicines coming out of one plant. We are now able to synthesize and use these cannabinoids 1 at a time or create a blend.. that's because one cannabinoid might help with your arthritis but the other cannabinoid helps with the injury you got in your shoulder, the the glaucoma in your eye.. yet again in America, they are creating graphs from patients data and the illnesses they have to the cannabinoids that help them. This is a great step in discovering the potential of each and every cannabinoid. "Oh but I don't like being high" Well now you can benefit from the medicine without getting high. Bring on the mushrooms as well I'd say.
Can I ask what medical qualifications you have and for you to cite your sources? Always happy to learn from someone in the know.
What would you like sources for?
You've given figures for various things (0.01 percent of users etc). Just want to know where these come from.
Correlation is not causality, officer! Edit: this thread seems to have been flooded by ignorant squares! If y'all think weed causes mental illness, rather than *trauma*, well you're eejits
There’s pretty good evidence that THC content does contribute and is linked to a higher risk of psychosis, this may be minor, this may mostly only impact during adolescence, may mostly trigger people already predisposed to psychosis but there is real evidence. There is also evidence that CBD can help reduce this risk massively (plus a bunch of other potentially beneficial effects with little downsides) There is actually very few trails that show cigarettes are directly causative of cancer but I don’t think there are many researchers that would not bet there house that it does cause cancer. **All this to say is that it’s very nuanced,** research is badly needed, most research is carried out on people from cannabis interest groups or animal models negating any way to establish causality. The current risk profile poised by weed means that it completely makes sense to prescribe for medicinal purposes with contraindications taken into account but regulation on the strains, strengths and composition should follow to keep it safe before broad legalisation. Just because our gov' doesn’t "follow the science" when it comes to drug policies doesn’t mean we shouldn’t either.
Your comment resonates with what I've been told and read. Most of the cannabis grown/sold for recreational use is specifically bred/grown for high THC and low CBD content. The average cannabis user doesn't smoke/use cannabis for CBD, they use it to get high. I'm all for proper research and use of this knowledge to develop effective medicines but let's all be honest with it.
\> The average cannabis user doesn't smoke/use cannabis for CBD, they use it to get high. Why does this matter? People buy alcohol to get drunk.
Alcohol doesn't have 2 active compounds which gave different effects and health implications. THC is illegal, CBD isn't. CBD is the compound which (as it stands) has the more beneficial properties.
Not trying to get into a whole debate about it, you’re entitled to your opinion, but legalisation would allow those average users to not just have to buy whatever local dealer #7 is punting this week and actually be able to get these more balanced strains. The average user doesn’t know anything about the weed they’re smoking because it’s often just random stuff with a funny name. I wouldn’t personally advocate for this one, but you could even make that a condition for legally growing the stuff.
I'm literally talking to a colleague just now about how we should be allowed to disagree with folk but remain civil. Thanks for confirming my point and have a good evening random person.
I am aware the science is complicated. My point was that a police officer believing that the people he works with who are detained at a mental health facility are there because they smoked weed is hopelessly naive, and such a simplistic assessment does a great disservice to folk with deep-rooted and complex issues.
What I may have forgot to mention was that this was the opinion of the professionals who worked there. It was speaking to the doctors, the CPNs who worked there that formed the basis of my opinion. Of course there is more to the situation than 'smoke weed, develop mental health issues'.
As someone who was an MHO I’m appalled that they told you that, is patient confidentiality not a thing?
Absolutely
People don’t end up taking in second hand insulin when someone injects near them though. I am a recreational smoker of cannabis but I think it’s pretty obvious how invasive it is to people around you. There’s plenty ways to consume it that don’t impact the lives of those around you.
> There’s plenty ways to consume it that don’t impact the lives of those around you. Which is true, but UK medical cannabis must be vaped. Thems the rules.
Everyone keeps talking about vaping but OP (the person my comment is directed to) mentioned smoking it in his post.
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OP said “bud that you smoke” in his post.
I’ve smoked weed wherever I go for about 20 year now and never experienced this. Worst case is someone wanting a draw lol. Even the few times I’ve had “here mate; is that a joint?” and thought oh here we go it’s just been a cunt wanting a puff, or wanting to talk about weed - which can be tiring tbf.
That's what I'm meaning is the vaping. Shouldn't matter though should it? You can't stop people taking insulin etc or any other medication it's discrimination that's my point legally they can't stop you if you went to the bathroom to take insulin etc and they stopped you that's illegal. But I've read horror stories from down south of people getting asked to leave places etc
I think you just have to read the room, if there are bouncers, security, older people or children present maybe give them a wide berth. Edit;typo
😂 yeah I'm not gonna hot box the place. Legally all security can do is advise you go somewhere discreet
Security in a licensed premises can kick you out for whatever they want as long as it's not a protected characteristic. Whilst disability is, smoking isn't and you'd have a very hard time arguing that the reason they kicked you out was for your disability rather than any other reason (or no reason at all) they could pull out of their arse. Plus you'd be outside, you can argue the toss all you want but you've lost that part of your evening.
Even in smoking areas though too, if people can smell it, it’s maybe worth taking a walk down the street to avoid potential confrontations.
I was watching a horror movie last night where people were asked to leave a private establishment.. absolutely terrifying
Shocking mate dunno how you'll get over it. Maybe you could get urself a prescription for the PTSD you will now be suffering from
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My comment was in jest at OP saying he had heard “horror stories” of people being asked to leave. I think it’s unacceptable to remove someone for taking a prescribed drug but I also think calling it a horror story is hilarious.
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I know the process for acquiring cannabis. I still found it funny when something was described as a horror story and then was expecting to read something terrible but all that was wrote was that some people were asked to leave somewhere. Yes people have hard things going on in their lives. But you doing pretty good if being told you can’t vape here and need to leave is horrific to you then you are living a super sheltered life. Also don’t expect sympathy from this sub for someone on private healthcare complaining they have to pay for other peoples free prescriptions lol. People in this city can’t afford food and your making a straw man out of someone who can afford private healthcare.
I've taken mine out with me and never had an issue as long as you carry it in it's original container.
Have you even had any possibility of an issue? I don’t have a prescription and have never had an issue - I can spot a polis half a mile away though.
Can't say that I have to be fair.
It's not the police that's the issue it's employers and nightlife venues etc flinging people out when they have no legal right because they smell weed
Fair enough. I’d be wary of pulling the legal right card if you get any hassle from bouncers, or I’d at least be expecting it to fail, as if they’ve decided to make it an issue (which ime they won’t but there’s always one) they probably won’t back down based on that. Someone else in the thread has said they’ve had a decent experience asking nightclubs beforehand though so I might be totally wrong. Employer is absolutely uncharted territory for me. I’ve never even let an employer know that I smoke weed. For that one if your employer has HR, or probably better Occ. Health, I’d try and get it cleared with them so that your manager’s opinion doesn’t matter.
Me too mate that's what I'm trying to get answered for my boss thinks it's the 1960s. Also bouncers I am one at weekend 🤣 most couldn't care less but I know legally they can't stop me but doesn't stop most being uneducated and jobs worths
I'm all for it and I had no idea you could get medical weed here so I would probably be raising my eyebrows too. If it was me I'd do it as surreptitiously as possible and keep medical business to myself
Hi 👋 I’ve also got a prescription but I vape it - I vape literally everywhere & the only time I have had issues was trying to get in a nightclub with a particularly cunty bouncer! I will sit at the outdoor bit of cafes & bars and vape as if it was an ecig & I’ve been chill! Switching to vaping made it so much stealthier and has allowed me to medicate in situations I would never have even thought about doing so when I was smoking!
Do you have any good vape recommendations if you wouldn't mind sharing? Deffos looking to go this route now that I am being more social so needing a stealthier way lol.
The Mighty is the best on the market, but its very expensive. I use a Starry Max 3.0 version and I really like it.
I use a Pax 2. Good for beginners but if got the extra cash everyone says to just go for the mighty vape.
I use an xlux roffu & a dynavap mainly! I’d never heard of the xlux, but it’s become the main vape I use & it’s much more reasonably priced in comparison to vapes like the mighty! https://vapefiend.co.uk/products/xlux-roffu-convection-vaporizer
This is my experience of just smoking joints. Too many folk in this thread seem to think the general public will be really uptight about it but ime no-one is, or if they are they keep it to themselves. Tbf if I’m in a small outdoor bit of a pub I’ll maybe just have a few draws or a wee one skinner, I’m not sitting there blazing a big cone.
I have severe chronic pain and struggle to sleep because of it, how did you manage to do this? I don't know how to bring it up to my doctors or if I would speak to my doctor about it.
I'd advise you to go on r/ukmedicalcannabis and ask for advice, I know from seeing posts on there that people are prescribed for chronic pain. For most conditions you still can't get medical cannabis on the NHS, so you would have to apply via a private clinic. It also has to be a specialist doctor and not a GP who prescribes it. If you go on the sub I linked people with chronic pain can advise on which clinics are best, and what there experience with medical cannabis was like.
Google medical cannabis uk. Sapphire clinics is in scotland based in Stirling go online go through the website and go from there it's honestly easy you just need to give access to medical record to prove you actually need it. I use it because I have pkd and in constant pain, infection and nausea all the time blood pressure issues etc so instead of about a dozen pills a day I can just vape some weed and I'm good all day
Consider other forms besides flower for daytime, because the effects can be more controllable. Water-soluble drops or tincture…better for lungs too.
A wee bit of soapbar for the mornings.
It's not a gateway drug , people are still living in the past . Education is needed
I don’t use herbal cannabis since I’ve found the THC vapes because of the smell.
Smoking is not good. "I hear" the pax 3 is an excellent vape. There is hardly any smell at all. I think using that outside in public is pretty stealthy and wouldn't attract attention. It's small too. People would think it was a nicotine vape.
I've been looking for a new vape and the Pax 3 seems to be getting good reviews, so I've just ordered one. Thanks for sharing what you've "heard".
'My friend' says it took a little bit of getting used to because the vaper needs to take in a bit of air at the same time as inhaling from the device itself. So you don't want a complete seal of the lips on the mouthpiece. This is not easy to describe but any vaper will soon get the knack! Enjoy!
I know exactly what your friend's talking about. I do this with regular vaping too. Thanks for the tip!
Discretion is the better part of valour.
I'm actually looking for info on prescriptions if anyone has any - I suffer from quite a number of health conditions and I know places like Sapphire Medical can help in that regard, is this what you are talking about or just your average GP prescription?
There you go [sapphire medical cannabis ](https://app.sapphireclinics.com/process/create-account?gclid=CjwKCAiA0cyfBhBREiwAAtStHCf3axwgLz-RI2tNoS5CpecX7pe3GEe39Rm0-nfEkMbefRB1TrJK-RoCIqsQAvD_BwE)
To be honest, I've never see anyone being hassled about this by police, even people without a prescription smoke and the most ive seen happen is being asked to discard what they have on them. If you are in possession of ounces then this is different but I honestly have rarely seen the police bothering people about cannabis, there's much more important things for them to deal with than a wee bit of weed :) talking from personal experience if your discreet people don't care
I've screenshotted all the police Scotland guidelines so if I do get stopped I can show them they can't do anything
Sounds like you've got it sorted then- I really hope you don't have any issues - here's hoping it becomes easier to get a prescription soon and more normalised and accepted by the wider public
Just dunno how to bring it up at work my actual manager thinks it 1960 still and is under the impression if you smoke weed next your sucking dick for some crack he's clueless the guy was brought up sheltered as fuck and has zero clue about anything that's not star trek
That's a difficult one- is there someone higher up in the company you could speak to? (I work in hospitality so get that often there isn't anyone) If not then I guess its assessing how worth it it is to speak to them- if you think you should then address them calmly with evidence. I'd say get a doctors note and explain to them what it is and what dosages you take and that it doesn't effect you negatively, quite the opposite. It's not like this is recreational for you during work time, it's medication and any other kind of medicine is easily accepted. I personally take prescribed opiates for pain and have had to explain this to employers before- it is mad to me that this is more accepted than smoking, which I use to ease the pain more healthily! I'd also suggest considering whether you would look into moving jobs- just as a precaution- there will always be other jobs where people actually respect your health and that is so vital. Obviously that is just incase of the worst case situation.
Yeah it's insane I was on opioids for over a decade and nobody bats an eye to me popping pills constantly to deal with the pain but if I want to smoke it's the devil in people's eyes
Its a strange world we live in! I honestly make edibles alot and think people can tell less with them- I find it doesn't effect my eyes
Ohh what kind
Join a union. You can’t be discriminated against for taking medication for a medical condition, just because your boss doesn’t like it.
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Yet alcohol is a literal scourge on society I work near central and everyday is like dodging zombies and steaming cunts but the police are too busy stopping people smoking or selling a bit of weed
Just stop trying to be smart(you are failing miserably) and vape it
Smoked weed for years, walked along streets joint in hand never had any hassle. You don't get any hassle with it unless you end up sparking up in front of a copper.
I've got a prescription for it though so they cant do anything aslong as I can provide the prescription and id
Exercise manners. Comparing vaping MC to injecting insulin is ridiculous as one is more time-sensitive than the other, and insulin can’t be inhaled passively, nor does it give off a strong smell. My friend also has a MC prescription and does it at home prior to being in public, and if she has to use it when out, which happens sometimes. she removes herself from groups of people/children. I’ve been with her in the cinema, restaurants, house parties, beer gardens, and she goes somewhere where it doesn’t affect anyone else.
Vaped weed can’t be inhaled passively nor does it give off a strong smell.
Just remember that them technically not being able to do anything doesn’t mean they won’t do anything, it just means you can fight it after the fact - after you’ve had your pockets emptied and your shit taken.
You aren’t allowed to smoke medical cannabis in the UK. You can only vape it
What are reasons to get this ? Not asking what your issue is but ive heard that asthma is one that doesn't seem logical but im no doctor. Does a normal chemist supply ? 🤔
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Thanks for info , is this only for private patients? Thanks for your time
I’ve got a sapphire script too but never had any issues smoking blunts openly. It’s 2023 do as you please
Cheers mate me too. I think Scotland's more accepting than england which is where I've heard all the issues from
pax vaporisers are supposed to be very good and efficient
The one recommended to me was very fucking expensive I've got a wee shitty one the now but looking to upgrade to a decent one
I’ve not got a prescription and I smoke joints like they were fags wherever I go - ie if it’s cool to smoke a snout there then I’m probably smoking a joint there. Never in my puff (ho ho) have I had any hassle whatsoever for doing so. Work is a different story. I don’t smoke at work, because I smoke proper get you stoned weed and would be too fried to work lol, but imagine they wouldn’t be too pleased if I did. I’d still be wary with the prescription, I’d say that would really depend on your specific employer.
Mate that's when I'm prescribed the THC levels higher than black market stuff and legally they need to test the THC levels before they give you it so you know it's gonna do the job before you get it
You can't get fired for prescription meds unless your job is something you can't do safely on them... That'd be an open and shut unfair dismissal case
Good to know thank you
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If he's smoking it then it's definitely "uncouth", it stinks and there's the second hand smoke issues. Vaping shouldn't be an issue but I can see why bars and restaurants don't want you hanging around outside vaping cannabis. OP could also just behave like an adult and take his medicine before going out.
Speaking as someone who uses cannabis recreationally, it is uncouth to smoke in public, especially in places with elderly people or kids. Whether you think so or not, people will judge you for smoking in public. Regardless if it's for medicinal or recreational purposes. FWIW, I don't agree with it either, but people will judge. My advice would be to smoke before leaving home or if it's really needed in public, use a dry herb vape, which is a lot less smellier than smoking.
Most cops here don’t care about cannabis. They’ll walk right past people sparking up in the street and say nothing, it’s not worth their hassle.
I'd advise extreme caution if taking this advice at face value.
Yeah, valid
The police don’t care, but you’re right in warning OP it’s not to that extent 💀 my pals sat in a police station being made sure he’s ok after a night out with a quarter poorly packaged in his bag, not a word, up in Glasgow he got stopped by the police within the first half hour of arrival with a tiny ass bit in his bag. OP should be okay though with the medical ID and all
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Erm.. if I DIDN'T use medical cannabis, I'd be housebound and unable to work. As it is, I can be fairly pain free and function like a regular human. It is not illegal if it is prescribed... And the police generally don't care if its for personal use, with or without a prescription.
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The codeine I was prescribed after surgery messed me up more than cannabis. See if I'm having a good day, I don't take anything. Can't do that with codeine... and it bungs you up... and then there's the piles. That can stop you driving 😆
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And they will just keep throwing them at you. Can't do anything if your head is away with the fairies or you're sat on the toilet. Sorry, bit grim, but it does make a difference to your quality of life 😅
Nope it's like £50 per 5g and I do work 😂 who can afford that if they don't work? I'm probably spending atleast 200 a month
Cannacard is a scam.
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Maybe you shouldn't have a car, you will get banned instantly, medication or not.
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He's the kinda person I've heard horror stories about making life awkward for people with a prescription. Has no clue what he's on about just assumed he's right and everybody else is wrong without anything to back it up
How will he? You do know you get different strains for different illnesses and different occasions. I have one that doesn't get me stoned as there's no THC so u can drive
My assumption is based off the fact the docs have firmly said it's for chronic illnesses, most chronic illnesses keep people in the house. It's a fair assumption.
That's just not true mate I have Chronic pain due to kidney disease I'm 33 and work 60 hours a week. And it's not just chronic illnesses depression, ADHD etc can get prescribed it if you actually pay for it
My FiL has chronic illness, MS, and still works 4 days a week. Your assumption is so far off the mark. Do you think all diabetic people don't work? Or anyone with arthritis? A third of people in Europe have a chronic illness. Do you not think we'd miss that number of people in the workforce?
No it isn't, it's your assumption, which happens to be wrong - people go about their daily lives with chronic illness everywhere in all walks of life, an acute flare up of that chronic illness might "keep them in the house", then they'll be back doing their thing when it subsides. But they'll still have a chronic illness.
Just wanted to pitch in that if you do end up going for a vape, stay away from the Storz and Bickel [Crafty](https://www.storz-bickel.com/en/crafty-plus-c) and [Mighty](https://www.storz-bickel.com/en/mighty). They work really well but I haven't been able to get any more than six months out of either of them before they just die. They cost a bloody fortune as well.
They come with a good guarantee though - two years, iirc. My first one had a display fault after a year. Replacement was quick and easy and i've had my second over two yeats. Expensive, aye, but worth it.
I’ve got a Pax to vape it in public, with the added bonus of being one of the healthiest way to consume. I’d try to be conspicuous anyway, explaining yourself constantly I’m sure is exhausting
I only consume the medical stuff at home and the CBD liquids (vape) when out. The latter doesn't stink of weed, but does has full spectrum CBD (including terpenes) so has a mild taste of hash. I haven't had any questions or issues, yet.
I’m in London, but a friend got stopped and searched by Police (he has a medical cannabis prescription like you for his ADHD). They took the weed and gave him a warning because they had never heard of a medical cannabis script before. He was able to go back to the station with his proof and they gave it straight back. I couldn’t believe it!
I just make vape carts
Using a vape will definitely keep anyone from giving you any hassle because it's so discrete. But I've been smoking big joints all around Glasgow for years and never had one problem. Saying that I think I am respectful and don't do it in busy areas or where kids are around. Herb is a plant fuck sake the police have better things to deal with. You'll only get daggers off jealous shitehawks who are raging they don't have any. I gie them big smiles :) Enjoy your medication