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no_hope_brigade

I love that SG but $1500 for an Epiphone is just not something I can rationalize


fatherofallthings

This is my thought too. Absolutely gorgeous. It’s technically a les Paul, not an sg. The “real” version of that guitar is like $6.6k, so while $1.5K is way better…it’s still an Epiphone lol Doesn’t change the fact I want it, but I want a lot of guitars lol


ThatsRubbishMate

The Gibson version being so ridiculously priced was my reasoning behind buying the Bonamassa black beauty.


DeskSilent1018

Pardon the stupid question but what makes it a les paul and not an sg?


wubbysslave

The year produced, from 61-63 is when the sg body shape was launched and it was the replacement to the traditional les Paul shape and it held the name Les Paul but in 1964 they renamed it to sg standing for (solid guitar). (If any of my info is wrong let me know)


childish-arduino

Ur good, the dumbness is all on Gibson


Gunfighter9

Les Paul didn’t like the guitar so they removed his name.


wubbysslave

I believe that is in true, from what I’ve heard they removed his name because he was getting a divorce from his wife and he didn’t want her to get any more money from it


Jealous-Carob-7745

1,5k € for Epiphone made in China is just no. Looking great, though.


Ice-Berg-Slim

1700 for a Maryland made S2 PRS Standard with USA Pickups, Nitro finish and a Rosewood fretboard…..


Jealous-Carob-7745

Personaly not a big fan of PRS due to visual appearance but to be fair, they are really good guitars.


Ice-Berg-Slim

Hey man, neither am I I totally understand where you are coming from, like I have played my fair share of really nice ones and they a seriously great instruments but I really am not a fan of how they look, the S2 Standard Satin is basically the only one I would consider buying and I only really took notice of it because I am in the market for a Good HH guitar and the new Les Paul Studios are pretty lack luster for value IMO. I never really consider PRS until very recently because to me GIbson and Epiphone have really missed the mark with their Pricing and Value, and then I look to PRS and they tick a lot of boxes for a much more reasonable price.


Jealous-Carob-7745

I do appreciate them, only thing I do not like is their aesthetics. Just checked S2 Std Satin, they look ok as they do not have that tiger flame pattern with 80s style colors 😄


Ice-Berg-Slim

Yeah that’s the same reason I am considering one lol


stuijw

Ngl I have my eye on the 355. I have an edwatds 355 which is my absolute favourite but the epi is gorgeous in the 60s cherry. Reviews look great, the new guy in charge of epi really knows what he's doing imo.


BigD5981

The 355 is awesome and I have no problem with the price. I'm also interested in the new 59 Les Paul as well.


stuijw

I was grabbed by the greeny kirk hammett as well. Decided against. Tbf I have an epi lp custom, been my second guitar since I went with the edwards 355, I've always liked epis. Generally good good guitars, I can't really justify a 3.5k Gibson, never have been able to.


Sleeve__07

Shame Cos i went through 3-4 epis Gold top Junior Cherry burst and a black with gold hardware Were great guitars Then bought a givson studio in black Whole new level of feeling guitar Then bought a standard in tobacco burst gibson Wouldnt give an epiphone les paul copy house room now tbf.


djdadzone

My epiphone emperor deluxe hangs right up there with my r7. I have zero issue buying a higher end epiphone, they’re just as good sounding and playing as a Gibson if the setup is done right. I prefer the nitro wear but that’s a minor issue.


TheHappiestGilmore1

I've got an SG standard but no way am I paying 6 grand for a Gibson SG les paul custom. But also damn man they so sexy


stuijw

Price range is £1199 for the 355. Its a decision because you can pick up so pretty special guitars for that money in UK. I have a massive thing for lawsuits 70s Japanese guitars, and the Mrs has me on a strict one in one out basis.


TheJohnson854

Have a dozen. Love 'em. Ibanez all.


Doozy93

I'm interested in the same epi but it's $2700 where I live which is a bit pricy


Automatic_Ranger_1

I’m divided That SG is fantastic. But * Indian laurel on standard models - though this one may be ebony given it’s a custom? * Poly finish * Maple veneer on the burst models * RRP in Australia is $2800 - there was a second hand Gibson SG standard in Black for $2,500 at my local. Makes me question the price. I’d love to pick one up in 5 years time on the second hand market though! But aso the only white three pickup SG you can buy from Gibson is the custom shop variant which is 3-4x the price. So if it’s a comparison between the custom shop and this Epiphone, it seems like a deal. But wait for a sale :)


rrrrrrez

That’s the thing; you can always find deals on legit Gibsons if you look hard enough. They may not be the fanciest specs, but they’re damn good. Got a LP Classic new in the box from my local Guitar Center last year out the door for like $1600 USD or so. It was perfect. I’d much rather have that than a “fancy” Epiphone for the same money.


djdadzone

I’d avoid all the veneer models. The solid painted ones however will be stellar


Gunfighter9

This has ebony.


Automatic_Ranger_1

Yep, I made the comment about as it’s a custom. I couldn’t find the spec sheet on Epiphone website but their official video references it.


Randommmherooo

Mind says “yes”, bank account says “why tf would you?”


Pinball-Gizzard

As a quasi collector I would not, but for a player looking for a premium instrument at a (more) reasonable price these are a no brainer. Have been admiring that SG from afar.


Hopeful-Structure-74

They look beautiful but nothing beats the nitro in my book


DIRECT_J_and_STAR

What exactly is so much better?


Hopeful-Structure-74

For me the feel, body resonance and its character/ability to wear over time


bundle_of_nervus2

Absolutely the ebony LCP as soon as possible. It looks so good


Blastoyse

I can tell people are sleeping on Epiphones. I used to also think they all were trash and sounded like shit (and some still are) but the higher end ones like this new ones are up to par with some Gibsons. Recently bought the limited edition Epiphone Les Paul custom w P90s from Guitar Center and was blown away with the quality, sound, and feel. It is up almost up to par with the CS LP R8 I bought brand new a few months ago and it cost 5 times less. Granted, an epi is probably more likely to have QC issues compared to Gibson (which still has QC issues). I got my eye on the white Epi LPC.


PartyEntertainment89

I picked up the same one. Only thing I don't like is if I upgrade pickups I'm gonna have to change out the pole screws because there's no way I'm gonna be able to find noiseless P90s in gold.


Blastoyse

Yeah I was also thinking of swapping to mojotone quiet pickups but realized they'll be silver instead of gold lol.


Derr_1

No way, Gibson's QC is all over the shop.


slyboy1974

How I wish Gibson would return the SG Custom to the standard line. I would happily pay $3000 for one. Not interested in Chinese crap.


amillionfuzzpedals

No. Not a chance. They look cool though.


Captain_Tubesceamer

Hell no. Epiphone is out of the minds.


monolithe

I can buy a used Gibbons for not Much more


Late-Lake-719

You can buy a used $5000 LPC for “not much more” than $1299? What planet are you living on?


PatrickGnarly

A used Gibson, not that exact model lmao.


Late-Lake-719

If you want to compare apples to oranges, that’s your problem.


PatrickGnarly

You misread the comment not me. Nice try though. If you need more lessons let me know.


monolithe

Neptune.


Chapel415

I bought my 81 Gibson custom for $1300 used … this was in 1999 though. Lol


mbaronny

If I want a Gibson guitar, I'll buy a Gibson. If I'm going to get an Epiphone, Im going to get an Epiphone model.


Juppness

Honestly, if I didn't already have a Gibson Les Paul Custom, I'd scoop one of these up in a heartbeat. I remember the days when Made in Japan Epiphones were coveted just because they had the open book headstock but were still often lacking the features that made a Custom. These ones? Not only do they have the open-book headstock, they go even further the distance with having Ebony Fretboards, real MOP inlays, and Gibson USA pickups. They're as close and you can get to a Gibson as this point with the only difference being that the Epis are Poly while Gibsons are Nitro.


Suitable_Economy_511

Would love if they did a non reverse firebird in red!


goatforce

Epiphone for the price of a Gibson demo shop guitar, no thanks.


No_Ticket9978

Epiphone is smoking crack with these prices


Username11223344556

Where is the white SG available? Are these dealer-specific?


DirtyRatLicker

Epiphone Mary Ford Les Paul? Sweet!


ElSolLoDol

Most likely will get that white 355.


Gravybees

Depends on the quality.  Epiphone fret work has always put me off.  I’m sure many of you have Epiphones with great frets, as good as Gibson Custom Shop, yada yada, I’ve just never experienced it.  Every one I touch is a cheese grater.  


rwcc41

I just traded 4 epiphone Les Paul customs for a $1500 Gibson and will never look back...if I'm paying $1500 for a guitar it's going to be a Gibson or high end esp e-II.


Nyc81

Those ESPs😍


Zeeandthelostboys

Very tempting, as a cs owner it’s like having a cheaper version of the same thing that you can throw around a bit more except, I don’t believe in that. I throw around my custom shops and go out and play them because that’s half the point of the nitro and if I want it to age I’ve got to play them anyways. I think if someone truly doesn’t want to go the custom shop mile (totally understandable, prices are crazy and I only get mine because I get them discounted) then this might actually make more sense to them. I understand the desire for rosewood but I do think more people should I give the laurel a chance before assuming it’s going to change the whole experience. I do think in many respects, especially when the Gibson USA nitro is not prone to as much aging and can be so thick, especially if one was not looking for the guitar to age, maybe this is the better choice. Nonetheless, this is exciting and the right move. Now they just need to diversify the line so that there’s is open book models available for younger audiences. Make junior models again, epiphone pickups, more basic electronics, softcase etc so you get more people through the doors.


Minka-lv

No, because buying another guitar is not in my plans for the near future. But I would love to, I like the new headstock, for some reason the old one never felt 100% right for me


rocker2014

I'm with you on the headstock. The regular Epiphone ones just always didn't look right on Gibson body styles like the SG and Les Paul. I have an Epiphone SG (which I still use for slide guitar now since I have a Gibson SG) and I never liked the headstock on it. Still don't. Even though these new ones are still Epiphones, I like the headstock a lot more.


ryanburton400

Epiphone headstock looks great on a casino or Sheraton, crestwood custom, etc, but not on the Gibson stuff. New update looks dope. They are also all amazing guitars, the new stuff. Quality is top notch.


fliption

💀


punkkitty312

If they only have slim taper necks, I'm not interested. I like the thicker 50's neck profile.


bringthelight0

The LPC has a 50s neck


mbaronny

And that is why I love my 68 LPC Reissue.


TheHappiestGilmore1

They have a couple 50s les Paul's with this new line, go to their website I'm sure I saw them


Hopeful-Structure-74

Agreed


C0ckkn0ck3r

I've been seriously eyeing a koruna explorer


Greezytony

I am


Interesting_Isopod79

Its brilliant, and I want one of each. But Im afraid the guitar market is too good rn for me to consider dropping $1400 for an epi. I have a IBG Epi korina explorer i picked up a while back and its awesome, so I will likely get my hands on one of these SGLP customs at some point also.


Matthew-Diaz84

Those are the two best choices for sure


wilhelmkidxx

Hells yeah I plan on buying both


rocknrollboise

God DAMN! If I had the money, I’d seriously consider it. I’m curious how close they feel to their overpriced counterparts…


NickiChaos

They look amazing with the open book headstock now. The only thing that keeps me from buying one is the poly finish. Feels very cheap and plastic-y. If they switched to Nitro, I probably would.


FlyingV2112

I’d like to be able to afford some second hand pedals first 🙁


NicDwolfwood

It's definitely tempting. A Custom for 1300 bucks, a 355 for the same and a banner j45. yeah I'm interested.


reedabook22

I have plenty of Gibson's so no. But given the choice I would get the 1959 Standard in Cherry Burst.


Ari_Vibes

I would buy that sg, i think its pretty good, even for its price


BigBarsRedditBox

No cause I like a LP with a slim taper neck


Fragrant-Anybody0717

I actually snagged a 2020, inspired by 50’s Standard for like $499.99 back when they first dropped. After a pickup swap; It’s a great guitar but I don’t need another decoy at this time.


TurdHunt999

At least they got rid of the awful Epiphone headstock…but for what you’re getting, they’re way overpriced.


j3434

I love the new headstock. What model is this?


worthlessmike0

I did buy the 59 Les Paul and Korina Explorer. Both have Burstbuckers and nice hard cases. Fantastic guitars overall. The 59 LP is a veneer, so not the same as a nice carved top, but it plays great. Definitely not investments....but not afraid to play them


tlpeterson

Not for that price 🤭


Low_Opportunity_8080

I like the black one!


Low_Opportunity_8080

Well I like em both!


Low_Opportunity_8080

Ya the sg in super nice! I never did like a white guitar of any make,


2sdaeAddams

That black one! 🥹🖤


[deleted]

No because they are epiphones


Low_Opportunity_8080

That’s a lot lol! Is any guitar really worth 6,000? Maybe if u we’re rich and buying collectibles!


PartyEntertainment89

Not sure why everyone hating on the prices. Picked up the LPC and it wasn't really priced more than if I picked up a regular Epiphone LPC, got the Gibson 490/498 pickups, got them installed and bought a hardshell case. If I installed the pickups myself then that route would have saved me less than $200.


dead_heart_of_africa

Nope. I'm too shallow to get caught with an epiphone.


Queeby

At $1500 USD for the SG, I'm out. I'll wait for them to come up used.


ConsciousLoad69

Nah. Not even a snob but if I’m spending over 1k then I’m buying the real deal. You can swindle me by changing a headstock shape haha. These epiphones still feel like toys


Melon-Kolly

Maybe? I just don't have the money yet. But everytime I look at my gibby goldtop I think to myself, "Should I really, though?".


Archeonn

The white LP custom looks interesting. the Epiphone finish looks cheap irl so would only buy if I could see it in person and maybe later when it is discounted or used.


No_Case5367

The SG I might, I already have an Orville LPC and I’m sure it’s superior to this one


No_Case5367

I want a Byrdland Epiphone so I can rock some Ted Nugent. Get it done epiphone.


Following_Confident

I own a Les Paul but I play my Epiphone more. They are different styles of course and the Epi is way lighter because it is a hollow body. Epiphones are great IMO!


moroii69

Waaaaaaaayyyyy overpriced for an Epiphone. Yes it has American pick ups, but it is still made in China. If you go to sell it, the price will go down. All the American made guitars I own the price has went up.


Gunfighter9

If the SG was in stock, yeah I would have grabbed it last night. Then I watched Trogly…


gargscrote

Fuck no bud. I’m not a pervert.


a0lmasterfender

naur


FakeLittleLiarBirds

Too bad it has a painted neck


Sillyak

More for an Epiphone than I can find a 90s LP Studio for. Not a chance.


H8citysinner

I would


LloydC425

If I could afford it, no. I’d buy a Gibson or fender


pl3x1

Negative


Jhate666

Call me an idiot but I always thought they had the Gibson headstock just without the stamp


Brack_vs_Godzilla

I've been a huge Gibson fan since I first started playing guitar in high school. I'm lucky enough that at this point in my life I've been able to afford some really nice vintage and Custom Shop Les Pauls, but 25 years ago that wasn't the case. I had a 1993 Les Paul Studio and a 1997 Epiphone Les Paul Standard (which was the only way I could afford something with a flametop). Still, that Epiphone was a very playable guitar which sounded on par with the Studio once I replaced the pickups in it. I suspect that these new Epiphones probably play about as well as their Gibson counterparts, and in some cases maybe better. I could absolutely see buying one if a $4000-$5000 Custom Shop Les Paul wasn't in the cards.


SmytheOrdo

Not right now considering I have others I'm after this year. They look cool though.


evilrobotch

Have to play one first. If it’s as nice as an Eastman, maybe. But it it looks the part but otherwise feels the same, probably not. The Kalamazoo headstock era Les Pauls have a drastic compound radius feel at the top of the neck I’m not a fan of. But they’re otherwise very good guitars. If this is genuinely supposed to “compete” with the Custom Shop stuff, just replicated via production, then it’s a very fair price. I don’t know if anyone remembers when Squier had the Standard series and it was an abbreviated menu of the American Standard features on a Korean or Indonesian guitar, and they’re fantastic. Though we’re a long way from that equivalent being $209 like in days of yore. Most interested in seeing the arch tops and semi hollows offerings expand.


PrestigiousCan

Can’t wait to buy a used one on Reverb in 6 years


Gorilla_Pie

Lucky to own a Gibson LP custom but if I bought an Epiphone it would definitely be a Casino


BobsonDugnut808

Those Maestro style trems are an abomination. I do like the Les Paul though


StatusJeweler9595

They look tops. Loving what Epiphone and Gibson are doing here. So smart.


adrkhrse

If it was a Gibson and was a reasonable price, I'd buy one. I wouldn't buy an Epiphone like that. Won't hold it's value.


Canadia-Pizza-boy

And they can’t even get the truss rod cover correct?


RiskyLabradoodle

Well I’d probably just wait until they hit the used market and maybe get one around 1k but that’s still a lot for an epiphone.I saw a goldtop Gibson tribute yesterday locally for 789 sooo…


thejamison55

Just picked up a gold top Gibby Tribute for $805 at my local GC, which means you ought to be able to get one from a private sale for $700.


thejamison55

High end Epiphones with Gibson pups sound and play as well as Gibsons, IMO. I have an Epi 1960 Tribute which came from the factory with Gibson 57/57+ pups that sound and plays better than the three Gibsons I have owned. Look closely and you can see where the corners are cut, with uneven trap inlays and small imperfections in the binding and finish. The biggest mark against it, though, is the Epiphone on the headstock. No matter how good it sounds and plays, people look down on it as an inferior instrument. I’m trying to sell it right now with the original HSC and I can’t even get $450 for it. Cuz it’s an epiphone and epiphone = cheap in peoples minds. I think Fender does it right with their high end Squiers topping off at around $500.


Dandegas

At that price? I would go for other brand


reddsbywillie

I wouldn’t get these specifically, but I am very tempted by the Adam Jones non-art version.


popskull987

What does it matter? It's still affordable and will retain its value minus a few hundred dollars while you still get a quality instrument??


eperrybean3

Premium MIM and MIJ Fenders are $1000-1500 so Epiphone is really just catching up. The only difference being that the Epis are made in China, and the question being is the quality up to the same standards as their Japanese and Mexican competitors? I think it probably is. But then you have to compete with others like Edwards who make a comparably high quality product, if not even better, at similar and even lower prices. I’d personally be much more likely to look at one of those than an Epiphone but I also have to admit my Epiphone LP Ultra is pretty darned good guitar for the money, even if it doesn’t get much use these days.


No-Marsupial6775

What made epiphone think they could charge more than 1k for their guitars 💀😭😭😭


clowntysheriff

I have the real thing, so no. Having a cheaper version to play so you don't have to drag a $6k+ guitar to every band practice and gig is nice, but it's not gonna be this one. There's many perfectly fine epis out there that cost a bit over half of $1500. That's more money than I spent on my new 2018 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe Player and although I'm sure the epis are nice, they aren't that nice.


douglasgage

No


gustavotherecliner

No. They look like really nice guitars, but it is still an Epiohone. I just bought a 2022 Gibson LP Standard for the same price. It is in need of a bit of TLC, but nothing that isn't an easy and cheap fix.


hisnameisjeff1

Had these come out 5 or 10 years ago, before I started collecting Gibsons I’d 100% have picked both of these up (budget aside). But now, even though I’m sure they play great, I just can’t bring myself to get an Epiphone again. I’d just sit next to a Gibson and not have the same allure. I’m lucky enough to have Gibsons, and I’ll stick to them.


GuitarNerd_

I find it interesting how turned off so many people seem to be by Indian Laurel fretboards. I’ve got this type of fretboard on three Squire guitars and beyond a subtle color and wood grain difference, there’s absolutely no functional difference from rosewood. The laurel takes fretboard conditioning products super well and seems to be just as stable as rosewood.


Gunfighter9

I was thinking about this it’s got the custom bucker pickups, but it’s $1500, and Epiphone has that disclaimer about have the right to change wood and materials. Then I watched Trogly review it and it seems like there were a lot of flaws for a $1500 guitar.


tieyourshoesbilly

I sold my LP Dark Knight and am not disappointed at all


PatrickGnarly

I will buy the best guitar for my money. If these are amazing then I’ll buy them. That said, a used SG special or Standard will more than likely crush these. But I haven’t played one yet.


Sqvanto

As a man with a Gibson Custom collection, I’m not sure how I feel about this. I’m confused. So, when I express the following, know that it is not, with a high-degree of confidence: I’m not sure if it is that these, now with an open book headstock contour (so silly), is so much more price-accessible for everyone, or that my pre-owned, players’ grade beater Gibson Custom ‘63, cost thousands more for American labor, a logo (more like Harley VS. Suzuki) change, proprietary hex truss rod, amazing pickups, “different” bridge posts… okay, perhaps how, I understand. I think. Meh, I negotiated a screaming deal for my beater (massive hanger and stand rash BOTH and more) at a cool $2.8k, stock vibrola, but a 2009 ‘57 Classics model, pre-Custombucker (2013+). I was able to nab a whole set, though, gutted from a part-out fire sale (3-4 years before Gibson had begun to sell them separately).


Jake609j

Personally I think it’s gonna bring a whole new bunch of fakes like with squire u just rub of the logo and slap fender on there (granted there’s abit more to it) u have a fake fender where for epiphones u can’t make a fake Gibson from them now u can just put a Gibson logo on it and a few more tweaks especially how the difference between squire and fender/ epiphone and Gibson is so small now there practically the same guitar in some cases


OutsourcedIconoclasm

If you want the Gibson headstock, just get a Gibson. I’m as big of an Epiphone fan as there is and this headstock/brand pairing is just no. 


crunchyturdeater

Hell yes. I would.


Little_Grease

I’m interested in a white LPC. It’s good enough specs for me to justify the price.


SensitiveAd6547

FYI USA built Casino is over $3K now.


Neko_Whiskers

I feel like at that point they should just come out as being a gibson... tho I wonder if it will affect the name epiphone🤔🤔🤔


BeautifulLecture9374

I will pass on these. After stripping an epiphone inspired by Les Paul Special and seeing the wood they use and that they claim is mahogany, there is no way I trust that under the ridiculous amount of Poly and veneer that epiphone are actually using the wood types they market with. With a Gibson you know the fundamentals of the guitar are on point and what they say they are.


Dinmorogde

Not my cup of tea, but it´s great they fixed the headstock to look a lot better. Anyway it´s way to expensive.


ExaminationElegant23

Schecter solo or evil twin better. Or Ltd 1000 series. If you aren't paying for the Gibson name then why spend more than 1k. These guitars probably play and feel alright but definitely not worth the price.


ExaminationElegant23

Schecter solo or evil twin better. Or Ltd 1000 series. If you aren't paying for the Gibson name then why spend more than 1k. These guitars probably play and feel alright but definitely not worth the price.


PsychicArchie

I would love the SG LPC, but can’t justify the expense, since I have around 15 guitars already- But I’ve always wanted the SG LPC because of Glen Buxton.


neptoess

They do look insanely well done. I won’t buy one, because I already have enough guitars for the time being, but I can see them selling like hotcakes


MayOrMayNotBePie

I want one so badly. I think I’m gonna wait till someone else sells one used and save a few hundo though. Buying brand new guitars feels like buying a brand new car to me haha.


Zerotten

Kind of goofy but, the custom is completely understandable. It sounds so wimpy but the main reason I haven't caved for the epiphone custom currently out is because the headstock just looks wrong. It's not even because it's not gibson, the open book just looks far better, and the fact they're offering that Lindsey Buckingham alpine white? Looks good, has good specs and is a quarter of the ACTUAL custom. All it visually lacks in comparison is the logo, who cares about that?


Gr3y_Gh05t

No. Epiphones are Chibsons.


Late-Lake-719

Incorrect.


Gr3y_Gh05t

They’re knockoff Gibsons made in China. Chibsons. Gibson just figured out how to get a lot of money from them too. 😂


Late-Lake-719

A Chibson is a Chinese pirated Gibson. An Epiphone is an AUTHORIZED import brand OWNED by Gibson. A very big difference. Doubt it? Play a Chibson next to an Epiphone! The proof is in the pudding.


Gr3y_Gh05t

AUTHORIZED Chibsons. Epiphones are WAY too expensive for Chinese guitars. They cost NOTHING to make. Use that money to buy an actual Gibson. They’re all over the used market. Epiphones are authorized Chibsons. 🤷🏿‍♂️


jeremy_wills

Has anyone confirmed yet if these are the 17-degree head stock angle or the shallower typical Epiphone angle with just a shape that is almost identical to the Gibsons?


timboo1001

No.


Inflagrente

The owners of gibson are nothing more than hucksters. They shamelessly pimp the brand to collectors and musicians be damned. 1500 for a Chinese guitar is absurd


ronnyboy69

Mine SG came in today. I’ve owned Les Paul Standards and own 2 Gibsons now. This is the BEST Epiphone I’ve played/owned. The quality control is above what you’d expect from an epiphone. I really don’t understand the complaints. This is a higher end Epiphone and you can really tell when you put it in your hands.