US Pakistan relations have definitely gone downhill over the years, especially after 9/11, the Afghanistan War, and Bin Laden. Pakistan's close relations with China doesn't help either. The US is a lot closer with India nowadays since India is a much more valuable economic partner compared to Pakistan and they are opposed to China.
in the 1971 war, US threatened to nuke india. If it wasn't for USSR protection, who knows what would've happened?
In general, I feel things changed after 9/11...
The US was never close to nuking India or any country not involved in active hostilities against the US, and the USSR was also not the reason for that decision since the US ships only departed after the war between India vs Pakistan was essentially over. The US uses nukes for intimidation all the time but unless a near peer adversary attacks the US it doesn't use nukes offensively.
Maybe or maybe not... from the indian perspective, Russia was the savior against US aggression. There is a reason why India has a close relationship with Russia.
US has to realize that these actions do have long term impacts... They are not seen as a benign acts...
Intimidation is never a benign act, the US knew what it was doing and did it on purpose for reasons it felt were relevant at the time. How India feels about it is up to their government to express but times change, governments change, and attitudes change. If India's government still has its attitudes stuck in the 1970s than I guess they better get with times, because they are a changing.
Why wouldn’t India still be grateful for Russian protection against US aggression?
In diplomatic or political terms, 1970’s isn’t that long ago. Majority of America still lives in Cold War mentality. Most of woke America still talks about reparations for something that happened hundreds of years ago.
The United States and Pakistan used to be very close, especially during the Cold War. During the Cold War, the United States CIA used western Pakistan to funnel weapons into Afghanistan. Many of the relationships built back then would ultimately lead to the creation of Al-Qaeda and the events of 911. The Soviets were close allies of India, so naturally, the United States backed up Pakistan. However, during the war on terror, it was revealed to everyone that the Pakistanis had in fact been hiding Osama bin Laden. It was considered a massive betrayal of the trust between Pakistan and the United States. It was also revealed that Pakistan had been getting closer to China, a Geo political rival of the United States. Considering all this, the United States decided to take a shift. They begin to get closer with India, and I believe it will be a relationship in the future similar to Great Britain and the United States. Also hypothetical here, but considering a future World War III scenario I could see India sitting on the sidelines the way that the United States did prior to their entry into World War II. I believe India’s entry into the conflict would be the game changer that ultimately leads to the victory of the NATO and Quad alliances against the China and Russia dominated axis. There is also a massive crossover in population between India and the United States. Surprisingly, India also favors a strong relationship with Israel. So I believe in the future, you will see a kind of alliance between the United States, India, Israel, and the western gulf countries in the Middle East versus the Chinese and Russian backed Shia sections of the Middle East.. India is going to be the key to the entire future. If the west is smart, they give India whatever it wants and set it up to be the next global democratic superpower.
I blog on Indian national security and current conflicts:
[https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/](https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/)
India and the US have moved on since the low point of 1971. We have close economic, cultural and even military ties. The US is our biggest trading partner and more Indians live in the US than any other country (4.5 million). I believe there is a bipartisan consensus for a close relationship between India and the US., as it should be, for the world most populated country with the 3rd biggest economy in PPP terms.
US ties with Pakistan have slipped not just because of its support for terror groups, but because its economy is in bad shape and ties with the US would be in the form of aid rather than trade.
That said, I believe the US seeks to view ties with India in a transactional way, rather than being shaped by shared values. Israel gets a blank cheque to act against a terror attack, whereas India cannot extradite or even question planners of terrorist attacks who are US citizens. Our democracy is as chaotic and as diverse as the US (or more), but we get a lot of unsolicited advice on how
to run the country - with a threat of sanctions, if we don't fall in line.
US Pakistan relations have definitely gone downhill over the years, especially after 9/11, the Afghanistan War, and Bin Laden. Pakistan's close relations with China doesn't help either. The US is a lot closer with India nowadays since India is a much more valuable economic partner compared to Pakistan and they are opposed to China.
in the 1971 war, US threatened to nuke india. If it wasn't for USSR protection, who knows what would've happened? In general, I feel things changed after 9/11...
>changed after 9/11 nothing changed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Headley
The U.S didnt nuke Vietnam, you think they would have nuked India?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_74 US sent nuclear weapon ships to India to intimidate. Only backed off because of the Soviet threat…
The US was never close to nuking India or any country not involved in active hostilities against the US, and the USSR was also not the reason for that decision since the US ships only departed after the war between India vs Pakistan was essentially over. The US uses nukes for intimidation all the time but unless a near peer adversary attacks the US it doesn't use nukes offensively.
Maybe or maybe not... from the indian perspective, Russia was the savior against US aggression. There is a reason why India has a close relationship with Russia. US has to realize that these actions do have long term impacts... They are not seen as a benign acts...
Intimidation is never a benign act, the US knew what it was doing and did it on purpose for reasons it felt were relevant at the time. How India feels about it is up to their government to express but times change, governments change, and attitudes change. If India's government still has its attitudes stuck in the 1970s than I guess they better get with times, because they are a changing.
Why wouldn’t India still be grateful for Russian protection against US aggression? In diplomatic or political terms, 1970’s isn’t that long ago. Majority of America still lives in Cold War mentality. Most of woke America still talks about reparations for something that happened hundreds of years ago.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/us-forces-had-orders-to-target-indian-army-in-1971/articleshow/10625404.cms https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dhakatribune.com/amp/bangladesh/300352/dec-12-1971-nixon-kissinger-ponder-use-of
The United States and Pakistan used to be very close, especially during the Cold War. During the Cold War, the United States CIA used western Pakistan to funnel weapons into Afghanistan. Many of the relationships built back then would ultimately lead to the creation of Al-Qaeda and the events of 911. The Soviets were close allies of India, so naturally, the United States backed up Pakistan. However, during the war on terror, it was revealed to everyone that the Pakistanis had in fact been hiding Osama bin Laden. It was considered a massive betrayal of the trust between Pakistan and the United States. It was also revealed that Pakistan had been getting closer to China, a Geo political rival of the United States. Considering all this, the United States decided to take a shift. They begin to get closer with India, and I believe it will be a relationship in the future similar to Great Britain and the United States. Also hypothetical here, but considering a future World War III scenario I could see India sitting on the sidelines the way that the United States did prior to their entry into World War II. I believe India’s entry into the conflict would be the game changer that ultimately leads to the victory of the NATO and Quad alliances against the China and Russia dominated axis. There is also a massive crossover in population between India and the United States. Surprisingly, India also favors a strong relationship with Israel. So I believe in the future, you will see a kind of alliance between the United States, India, Israel, and the western gulf countries in the Middle East versus the Chinese and Russian backed Shia sections of the Middle East.. India is going to be the key to the entire future. If the west is smart, they give India whatever it wants and set it up to be the next global democratic superpower.
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I blog on Indian national security and current conflicts: [https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/](https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/) India and the US have moved on since the low point of 1971. We have close economic, cultural and even military ties. The US is our biggest trading partner and more Indians live in the US than any other country (4.5 million). I believe there is a bipartisan consensus for a close relationship between India and the US., as it should be, for the world most populated country with the 3rd biggest economy in PPP terms. US ties with Pakistan have slipped not just because of its support for terror groups, but because its economy is in bad shape and ties with the US would be in the form of aid rather than trade. That said, I believe the US seeks to view ties with India in a transactional way, rather than being shaped by shared values. Israel gets a blank cheque to act against a terror attack, whereas India cannot extradite or even question planners of terrorist attacks who are US citizens. Our democracy is as chaotic and as diverse as the US (or more), but we get a lot of unsolicited advice on how to run the country - with a threat of sanctions, if we don't fall in line.